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Blackcat31 09:59 AM 08-23-2016
It's really kind of sad for me to think that this teacher's letter home goes viral. As if she's some kind of super hero to come up with such a novel idea.

Stuff we, as providers know is important and have pushed parents to do since day one.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sec...cid=spartanntp
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JackandJill 10:03 AM 08-23-2016
I had the same thought. All these parents that come through looking for their 3 year old to be in a school like setting. Seriously, these poor kids are getting the short end of the stick!
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Cat Herder 10:06 AM 08-23-2016
If it is a true story, I have to applaud that she had the 's to put it in writing, send it home and place her job on the line for it.

I am sure she will face some consequences we may never hear of.

Again, if not a staged prop/agenda.
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MunchkinWrangler 10:08 AM 08-23-2016
I know right?! Just like the 18 month old leaving my daycare for a center because they have teachers and classes.
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Cat Herder 10:15 AM 08-23-2016
Originally Posted by MunchkinWrangler:
I know right?! Just like the 18 month old leaving my daycare for a center because they have teachers and classes.
I am writing a lesson plan for a 6 month old as we speak. My kids college tuition will be due again soon... so I write.

That is why I believe it is staged. Public school Teachers have no autonomy, not even us *teachers*.
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DaveA 10:19 AM 08-23-2016
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
I am sure she will face some consequences we may never hear of.
My first thought when I read it was "Well she's #*(^'d at work!" Even if her school doesn't do anything official to her she's going to be persona non grata with some coworkers/ supervisors. I imagine it's going to be a little chilly for her in the break room.
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daycarediva 10:26 AM 08-23-2016
Originally Posted by DaveA:
My first thought when I read it was "Well she's #*(^'d at work!" Even if her school doesn't do anything official to her she's going to be persona non grata with some coworkers/ supervisors. I imagine it's going to be a little chilly for her in the break room.
That's what I thought, too!

We send home a letter with our kids to their elementary teachers that we opt out of homework and what we DO instead (outside, pursue own interests, read, sports practices, music lessons, family dinners, and early bedtimes). ALL teachers have loved it and have agreed with us, but their jobs are on the line if they were to stop following the status quo.
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EntropyControlSpecialist 11:54 AM 08-23-2016
I wondered if it were real, too.

Even if it isn't, however, the amount of positive attention it is receiving can only benefit the kids.
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Play Care 11:56 AM 08-23-2016
Originally Posted by DaveA:
My first thought when I read it was "Well she's #*(^'d at work!" Even if her school doesn't do anything official to her she's going to be persona non grata with some coworkers/ supervisors. I imagine it's going to be a little chilly for her in the break room.
My DH (high school teacher) avoids the break room like the plague. It's referred to as the "hen house"
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Controlled Chaos 12:01 PM 08-23-2016
I have been grateful so far that my DDs homework has been 10-15 min of either reading, working on site words or being read to. She's only in 1st grade, but I worry already about her evenings being stolen. She came home so exhausted yesterday she cried while eating her snack. When I asked her if anything had happened, or if she was sad she just said "I'm not used to learning so long. It made me s tired. I'll get better at it though." Broke my heart.
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MunchkinWrangler 12:02 PM 08-23-2016
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
I am writing a lesson plan for a 6 month old as we speak. My kids college tuition will be due again soon... so I write.

That is why I believe it is staged. Public school Teachers have no autonomy, not even us *teachers*.
Oh, I get it! Just writing infant activities for licensing and explaining in detail what those are can be really mind boggling!
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Controlled Chaos 12:03 PM 08-23-2016
Originally Posted by Play Care:
My DH (high school teacher) avoids the break room like the plague. It's referred to as the "hen house"
lol! When I taught, several teachers gave up gossip during lent and the break room was SILENT for 40 days lol
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DaveA 12:39 PM 08-23-2016
Originally Posted by Controlled Chaos:
lol! When I taught, several teachers gave up gossip during lent and the break room was SILENT for 40 days lol
Originally Posted by Play Care:
My DH (high school teacher) avoids the break room like the plague. It's referred to as the "hen house"

I can relate- it's no better in center break rooms. I got pulled into more conversations I wanted no part of. It was also a great place for the more passive/aggressive coworkers to be unbelievably obnoxious. Dealt with that a few times. I had one woman who wanted me out of "their space". She made sure to make any conversation when I was in there was either explicit or about "female" problems. The last straw for me was when she handed me a Victoria's Secret catalog and asked me which one she should get for her husband. I just opened it up, pointed to one, and said "Lose 20 pounds and he'd like that one!" Then I just went back to eating. The whole room went silent staring at me like She still hated my guts, but at least she knocked it off around me after that.
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DaveA 12:45 PM 08-23-2016
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
I am writing a lesson plan for a 6 month old as we speak.
One center I worked at had a toddler teacher who did every art project for- I mean................"helped" each child complete the art. So every thing was done neatly and just looked so perfectly cute. Then they'd hit my room and DCKs would do it themselves. I had DCPs worried that their child was regressing because everything was being done so "messy". Took every bit of tact I had not to completely throw toddler teacher under the bus.
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CalCare 01:21 PM 08-23-2016
The school where I worked before I had my own children had that type of homework policy- no homework except unfinished classwork. I always though that was fantastic- and I just knew I would send my own children to that school one day. When I had my children, I realized A. That school was way too expensive for me, and B. There were way too many other things I didn't like about the school (saying the Lord's Prayer every morning at a secular school!?). So, we are at another school. Homework at this school is optional, but by second grade, I started my son on 20 minutes worth each day. I wish it wasn't assigned at all because even as "optional", I feel it's expected and that I am being judged if I don't make it happen. :/ Even that 20 minutes seems like a waste of time and a source of unnecessarily conflict. And he is almost nine now. These kinders and even preschools (!) With homework blow my mind.
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Blackcat31 01:48 PM 08-23-2016
Originally Posted by MunchkinWrangler:
Oh, I get it! Just writing infant activities for licensing and explaining in detail what those are can be really mind boggling!
If you are participating in Parent Aware, just wait...

The lesson plans, twice yearly assessments and parent conferences etc.

It's mind boggling as well. I have zero issues writing lesson plans and coming up with different activities and experiences for the kids but very detailed infant lesson plans are ridiculous.
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spedmommy4 04:31 PM 08-23-2016
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
If you are participating in Parent Aware, just wait...

The lesson plans, twice yearly assessments and parent conferences etc.

It's mind boggling as well. I have zero issues writing lesson plans and coming up with different activities and experiences for the kids but very detailed infant lesson plans are ridiculous.
Infant lesson plans? Who thought that up? And how would infants participate in anything planned? A babies day revolves around their needs, not the adults. Maybe I'm missing something, but that seems out there.

In grad school I didn't complete lesson plans for any child under 18 months. And even that young would have earned me a, "are you sure the child is actually going to do this?" look from the professor.
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Blackcat31 06:33 PM 08-23-2016
Originally Posted by spedmommy4:
Infant lesson plans? Who thought that up? And how would infants participate in anything planned? A babies day revolves around their needs, not the adults. Maybe I'm missing something, but that seems out there.

In grad school I didn't complete lesson plans for any child under 18 months. And even that young would have earned me a, "are you sure the child is actually going to do this?" look from the professor.
I know right? They are simple and need to meet ECIPS requirements. QRIS doesn't require alot of detail.

Here's a sample of one
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MunchkinWrangler 11:10 PM 08-23-2016
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
If you are participating in Parent Aware, just wait...

The lesson plans, twice yearly assessments and parent conferences etc.

It's mind boggling as well. I have zero issues writing lesson plans and coming up with different activities and experiences for the kids but very detailed infant lesson plans are ridiculous.
I want to participate and am currently on Parent Aware but haven't started all their criteria. Plus the $$$ just isn't there yet for me to be able to hit all the requirements as well as classes.

I'm truly bummed about the 2 that I lost, I had so much planned and was hoping to be able to add more quality toys and supplies to my set up but now it will have to wait until I'm more stable financially. I basically am now hoarding my money until I fill the spots.
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Rockgirl 06:13 AM 08-24-2016
A little off-topic, but I've noticed a trend lately: things going viral that used to just be the norm. People showing common courtesy, showing compassion for others, etc. I think we tend to think these things don't happen unless we see it documented on social media. Then everyone is like "OMG--LOOK! THAT TODDLER GAVE THE OLD MAN A HUG!!"
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nanglgrl 07:49 AM 08-24-2016
Originally Posted by Rockgirl:
A little off-topic, but I've noticed a trend lately: things going viral that used to just be the norm. People showing common courtesy, showing compassion for others, etc. I think we tend to think these things don't happen unless we see it documented on social media. Then everyone is like "OMG--LOOK! THAT TODDLER GAVE THE OLD MAN A HUG!!"
A toddler gave an old man a hug? Where? I need to see this!
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MunchkinWrangler 08:29 AM 08-24-2016
Originally Posted by spedmommy4:
Infant lesson plans? Who thought that up? And how would infants participate in anything planned? A babies day revolves around their needs, not the adults. Maybe I'm missing something, but that seems out there.

In grad school I didn't complete lesson plans for any child under 18 months. And even that young would have earned me a, "are you sure the child is actually going to do this?" look from the professor.
I know exactly what they are looking for when they ask this actually. If infant seat, bouncer, walker, swing is on there they know you're not giving proper opportunities for physical development.

They are looking for tummy time, peek a boo, stories, music, clapping hands, sitting up, outside play, and any other ideas you can come up with to help an infant hit their milestones.
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Cat Herder 10:33 AM 08-24-2016
Originally Posted by MunchkinWrangler:
any other ideas you can come up with to help an infant hit their milestones.
... and coordinate with the curriculum theme and schedule used for the rest of the multi-aged group. Birth to 5, here. One room. 4 lesson plans, per day.
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MunchkinWrangler 10:36 AM 08-24-2016
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
... and coordinate with the curriculum theme and schedule used for the rest of the multi-aged group. Birth to 5, here. One room. 4 lesson plans, per day.
...isn't that right!
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Play Care 10:40 AM 08-24-2016
Originally Posted by Rockgirl:
A little off-topic, but I've noticed a trend lately: things going viral that used to just be the norm. People showing common courtesy, showing compassion for others, etc. I think we tend to think these things don't happen unless we see it documented on social media. Then everyone is like "OMG--LOOK! THAT TODDLER GAVE THE OLD MAN A HUG!!"
YES!

If it's not on Facebook, it didn't happen!
It's annoying.
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Second Home 10:45 AM 08-24-2016
Originally Posted by Rockgirl:
A little off-topic, but I've noticed a trend lately: things going viral that used to just be the norm. People showing common courtesy, showing compassion for others, etc. I think we tend to think these things don't happen unless we see it documented on social media. Then everyone is like "OMG--LOOK! THAT TODDLER GAVE THE OLD MAN A HUG!!"
Exactly .
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JackandJill 10:47 AM 08-24-2016
Originally Posted by Rockgirl:
A little off-topic, but I've noticed a trend lately: things going viral that used to just be the norm. People showing common courtesy, showing compassion for others, etc. I think we tend to think these things don't happen unless we see it documented on social media. Then everyone is like "OMG--LOOK! THAT TODDLER GAVE THE OLD MAN A HUG!!"
The worst is when people post about THEIR OWN act of kindness... ahhh, just be kind, no need for the self promotion!!
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Rockgirl 10:52 AM 08-24-2016
Originally Posted by JackandJill:
The worst is when people post about THEIR OWN act of kindness... ahhh, just be kind, no need for the self promotion!!
Yes--thank you!
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childcaremom 10:52 AM 08-24-2016
Originally Posted by Play Care:
YES!

If it's not on Facebook, it didn't happen!
It's annoying.
Ha! I say this all the time.
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Pepperth 10:59 AM 08-24-2016
Originally Posted by JackandJill:
The worst is when people post about THEIR OWN act of kindness... ahhh, just be kind, no need for the self promotion!!
That drives me crazy too.
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