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Michael 04:53 PM 07-08-2011
Anyone seen this yet?
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword...re_centers.php
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Crystal 05:09 PM 07-08-2011
While I think mandating it is silly, I do think that materials and toys in the environment should be reflective of the children who play in those environments.

I conduct the "environmental rating scales" for our R&R and for Head Start and surprisingly most programs have only white dolls......which surprises me, especially in HS where the population is so diverse.

I once wrote Target because I went to buy a little Indian girl in my program a doll for her Bday and they only sold white dolls. I was appalled and angry that a store that serves a highly diverse clientele would do that. They now have many multi-cultural dolls......but it was a long time before they started carrying them.
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Cat Herder 05:43 PM 07-08-2011
They are always adding stuff on us, without offering a way to pay for it, knowing we can't successfully charge more for having it....nothing new.

I already have multi-cultural dolls because I think it better represents our community, anyway. I could care less about star ratings one way or another.

I have to say I have been LMAO reading the comments on that article....
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TBird 07:44 PM 07-08-2011
Mandating it is the silliest thing I've ever heard but I do have different races of dolls in my program.
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Meeko 07:52 PM 07-08-2011
Just waiting for the government to mandate how many times a day I can go to the bathroom.........
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Cat Herder 08:02 PM 07-08-2011
Originally Posted by Meeko60:
Just waiting for the government to mandate how many times a day I can go to the bathroom.........
I hear it is 3 as long as you have a water limiting tank....
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Kaddidle Care 09:15 PM 07-08-2011
Oh give me a break!
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nannyde 05:19 AM 07-09-2011
I like their reg about staff covering up their shoulder and hips.

AFAIK they should have taken it further than they did.

Center employees showing a HUGE part of their butt, belly, and chest is a HUGE problem in centers now. The modesty of the past to keep your crack and clevage covered when you are at work is missing in this generation. The little kids, the parents, and the other staff shouldn't have to look at these private areas every time a staff bends over. The centers shouldn't have to pay the VAST amount of time it takes daily for them to rearrange their clothing a hundred times a day.

Tight fitting, ill fitting, too small clothing on a population of staff that is increasingly hugely overweight is netting a lot of private part exposure to little kids. It's a cleanliness issue with the infants but it's inapropriate with the preK kids, staff, and parents.

This is what I see ALL THE TIME in the centers I watch in my consulting business: Not the rough handling but the clothing on the worker.

http://www.ketknbc.com/news/watch-fu...body-slams-boy
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Kaddidle Care 06:01 AM 07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Catherder:
I have to say I have been LMAO reading the comments on that article....
I had to stop reading the comments - they were making my brain hurt and most had NOTHING to do with dolls.

Now... I've never had an inspector tell me "show me your baby dolls" have you? Do they actually check for something like that?

The clothing - yeah, this generation's lack of covering leaves nothing to be desired and nothing to the imagination.

I have no problem with a sleevless top though, but I'm guessing it's to avoid tube tops. One of our girls wore a strapless maxi dress to an event and I told her she was mighty brave with wee ones that could have easily pulled on the bottom of her dress and bared all on her. Not the smartest choice.

Most of the time I look like a slob because the frequent use of bleach ruins a lot of my clothing. There's also the occasional painted hand print here and there. Unless it's an event, there's no sense in wearing my Church finest. And my pants fit around my waist and my tops cover everything as well. But I'm from the over 40 crowd and quickly reaching 50. Ouch.. that hurt. :/
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Hunni Bee 03:59 PM 07-09-2011
Originally Posted by nannyde:
I like their reg about staff covering up their shoulder and hips.

AFAIK they should have taken it further than they did.

Center employees showing a HUGE part of their butt, belly, and chest is a HUGE problem in centers now. The modesty of the past to keep your crack and clevage covered when you are at work is missing in this generation. The little kids, the parents, and the other staff shouldn't have to look at these private areas every time a staff bends over. The centers shouldn't have to pay the VAST amount of time it takes daily for them to rearrange their clothing a hundred times a day.

Tight fitting, ill fitting, too small clothing on a population of staff that is increasingly hugely overweight is netting a lot of private part exposure to little kids. It's a cleanliness issue with the infants but it's inapropriate with the preK kids, staff, and parents.

This is what I see ALL THE TIME in the centers I watch in my consulting business: Not the rough handling but the clothing on the worker.

http://www.ketknbc.com/news/watch-fu...body-slams-boy
I wanted to mix things up and wear a sundress this past week....which I wore over a tank top and pair of leggings. A couple parents told me they liked my dress but why all the other clothing underneath it. I have to sit on the floor, dance around, bend completely in half, and I had at least one head under my dress ...the dress by itself was not happening. My dcks will never see anything more than my arms and calves.

Now, can we require the same sort of compliance from the parents?? We have at least two moms who drop off in the morning wearing their jammies...no bras, short sleep shorts, see through and revealing tank tops...and we have boys as old as eleven. Not to mention the mom who came to get her kid wearing only a t-shirt and panties!!!

My director says we can't say anything.
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cheerfuldom 04:22 PM 07-09-2011
somebody came to pick up their kid with only a tshirt and panties on??!!
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Meeko 04:25 PM 07-09-2011
Originally Posted by nannyde:
I like their reg about staff covering up their shoulder and hips.

AFAIK they should have taken it further than they did.

Center employees showing a HUGE part of their butt, belly, and chest is a HUGE problem in centers now. The modesty of the past to keep your crack and clevage covered when you are at work is missing in this generation. The little kids, the parents, and the other staff shouldn't have to look at these private areas every time a staff bends over. The centers shouldn't have to pay the VAST amount of time it takes daily for them to rearrange their clothing a hundred times a day.

Tight fitting, ill fitting, too small clothing on a population of staff that is increasingly hugely overweight is netting a lot of private part exposure to little kids. It's a cleanliness issue with the infants but it's inapropriate with the preK kids, staff, and parents.

This is what I see ALL THE TIME in the centers I watch in my consulting business: Not the rough handling but the clothing on the worker.

http://www.ketknbc.com/news/watch-fu...body-slams-boy
Amen Nannyde! Since when did child care workers need to look like hookers?!!
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youretooloud 04:48 PM 07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Crystal:
While I think mandating it is silly, I do think that materials and toys in the environment should be reflective of the children who play in those environments.
Me too!

And, do you know how hard it is to find a doll the kids like in different races? If I get the hard plastic dolls, they go unused. But, the dolls they like (from target or someplace) is the same exact white doll with blue eyes. But, it has the soft body, no hair, and plastic legs and arms. (all naked btw)
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youretooloud 04:55 PM 07-09-2011
http://www.amazon.com/Newborn-Real-Y...t_ai_ps_t2_t_3

Aww.. these are both cute, and creepy.

I like this one too.. but, it'd be a dog hair magnet. http://www.amazon.com/North-American...t_ai_ps_t2_t_3

Alright.. now I'm just reliving my childhood. http://www.amazon.com/Little-Mommy-R...t_ai_ps_t2_t_3
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afmama 06:05 PM 07-09-2011
The military regulates that we have racially diverse materials, at least I think that is how it is worded. But my coordinator provided the dolls, thankfully, otherwise I think they would have been hard to find.

As far as the clothes we wear, don't most bigger centers have a dress code? Most I've been too they wear scrubs....or smocks over them. My everyday dress is pretty modest so I'm okay. But at the same time I am a little "chesty" and if a 2 yr old sees some cleavage when I'm bent over then I think they'll survive! I'm sure not going to wear a turtleneck around in this heat!
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Meeko 07:49 PM 07-09-2011
Originally Posted by afmama:
The military regulates that we have racially diverse materials, at least I think that is how it is worded. But my coordinator provided the dolls, thankfully, otherwise I think they would have been hard to find.

As far as the clothes we wear, don't most bigger centers have a dress code? Most I've been too they wear scrubs....or smocks over them. My everyday dress is pretty modest so I'm okay. But at the same time I am a little "chesty" and if a 2 yr old sees some cleavage when I'm bent over then I think they'll survive! I'm sure not going to wear a turtleneck around in this heat!
Air Force? That's how I started in day care over 25 years ago!
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Hunni Bee 08:00 PM 07-09-2011
Originally Posted by cheerfuldom:
somebody came to pick up their kid with only a tshirt and panties on??!!
Yes!!!! At first we thought she just had really short shorts on...but when she turned around...
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Hunni Bee 08:07 PM 07-09-2011
Originally Posted by youretooloud:
Me too!

And, do you know how hard it is to find a doll the kids like in different races? If I get the hard plastic dolls, they go unused. But, the dolls they like (from target or someplace) is the same exact white doll with blue eyes. But, it has the soft body, no hair, and plastic legs and arms. (all naked btw)
Child-care supply companies like Kaplan sell them in sets of a Caucasian doll, an African American, a Hispanic one and an Asian. I know Kaplan has a set that are soft-bodied, but they are quite expensive. They last forever...we ended up with only the Asian one somehow, and she's adorable...and I just throw her in the wash with the sheets when I need to.

But under the mentorship program we use (which also uses a star-based quality rating scale) demands that we have not only multicultural dolls, but dress up clothes, plastic figures, play food, books and posters on the wall.

EDIT:

these are for the little ones: http://http://www.kaplanco.com/store...20|0&PID=80549

and here are the ones you were talking about http://http://www.kaplanco.com/store...20|0&PID=87773 these aren't the exact ones I have...but mostly the same
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Kaddidle Care 08:14 PM 07-09-2011
Originally Posted by youretooloud:
http://www.amazon.com/Newborn-Real-Y...t_ai_ps_t2_t_3

Aww.. these are both cute, and creepy.

I like this one too.. but, it'd be a dog hair magnet. http://www.amazon.com/North-American...t_ai_ps_t2_t_3

Alright.. now I'm just reliving my childhood. http://www.amazon.com/Little-Mommy-R...t_ai_ps_t2_t_3
Haha! I had a Goody Two Shoes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1VLxaeuJZc My mother was so disappointed - she thought it would really walk across the floor. Instead it was Chug, Chug, Chug - Robbie the Robot all over again.

It's hard to find pretty baby dolls - they have such ugly ones now. Bleh!

I remember my cousin having a hard time finding a pretty asian doll for her adopted daughter. This one is pretty cute http://www.amazon.com/Corolle-Premie...268033&sr=1-23
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youretooloud 09:24 PM 07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Kaddidle Care:
Haha! I had a Goody Two Shoes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1VLxaeuJZc [/url]
I had Tippy Toes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpglw...eature=related
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