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Blackcat31 12:13 PM 07-22-2013
Anyone know of any alternative methods (besides antibiotics) for treating thrush?
I have a newbie here who has it and mom is not wanting to do antibiotics (due to child's young age) so I was curious if there were any alternatives that may be effective/helpful.
I have a newbie here who has it and mom is not wanting to do antibiotics (due to child's young age) so I was curious if there were any alternatives that may be effective/helpful.
Willow 12:17 PM 07-22-2013
Although no longer popular for various reasons, my vote always goes to gentian violet.
Works phenomenally well.
Works phenomenally well.
EntropyControlSpecialist 12:32 PM 07-22-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Although no longer popular for various reasons, my vote always goes to gentian violet.
Works phenomenally well.
Although no longer popular for various reasons, my vote always goes to gentian violet.
Works phenomenally well.
SilverSabre25 12:58 PM 07-22-2013
mom and baby both need treated 
and I third the gentian violet vote
and I third the gentian violet vote
Blackcat31 01:12 PM 07-22-2013
Mom said she talked to her pharmacist and they are no longer stocking it or recommending it. 
She has been treating with plain yogurt (??). Don't know if that really helps or not.... it does seem to be getting better but not really going away though.
Mom is treating both her and baby.
Does anyone know if it is painful for baby?
She has been treating with plain yogurt (??). Don't know if that really helps or not.... it does seem to be getting better but not really going away though.
Mom is treating both her and baby.
Does anyone know if it is painful for baby?
Cat Herder 01:45 PM 07-22-2013
Thrush is painful for baby (it is a candida yeast infection of the mouth), but can be soothed with Clove flavored sugar sticks (the soft kind that melt on contact, crush a bit between your fingers, swab over gums, works for teething as well), natural anesthetic.
It will cycle out in 2-3 weeks, tops, naturally. Yogurt can help, although the anti-fungal mouth swabs (RX) make it go faster, IMHO.
It will cycle out in 2-3 weeks, tops, naturally. Yogurt can help, although the anti-fungal mouth swabs (RX) make it go faster, IMHO.
Willow 01:47 PM 07-22-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Mom said she talked to her pharmacist and they are no longer stocking it or recommending it.
She has been treating with plain yogurt (??). Don't know if that really helps or not.... it does seem to be getting better but not really going away though.
Mom is treating both her and baby.
Does anyone know if it is painful for baby?
I know when my kids had it while nursing it made my nipples feel like itchy fire so I would assume a baby's mouth would feel similar discomfort.Mom said she talked to her pharmacist and they are no longer stocking it or recommending it.
She has been treating with plain yogurt (??). Don't know if that really helps or not.... it does seem to be getting better but not really going away though.
Mom is treating both her and baby.
Does anyone know if it is painful for baby?
I'dtell her to go to a different pharmacy or buy it off the internet. It's been used for many generations and most people you ask will swear by it
Familycare71 01:51 PM 07-22-2013
I would ask why pharmacist no longer stock it before putting it in an infants mouth...
I'm all for whole/natural alternatives but IMO it isn't nice to let a baby go through suffering for it...
I'm all for whole/natural alternatives but IMO it isn't nice to let a baby go through suffering for it...
Blackcat31 02:31 PM 07-22-2013
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
Thrush is painful for baby (it is a candida yeast infection of the mouth), but can be soothed with Clove flavored sugar sticks (the soft kind that melt on contact, crush a bit between your fingers, swab over gums, works for teething as well), natural anesthetic.
It will cycle out in 2-3 weeks, tops, naturally. Yogurt can help, although the anti-fungal mouth swabs (RX) make it go faster, IMHO.
Thank you! I will pass this info onto mom. Thrush is painful for baby (it is a candida yeast infection of the mouth), but can be soothed with Clove flavored sugar sticks (the soft kind that melt on contact, crush a bit between your fingers, swab over gums, works for teething as well), natural anesthetic.
It will cycle out in 2-3 weeks, tops, naturally. Yogurt can help, although the anti-fungal mouth swabs (RX) make it go faster, IMHO.
Originally Posted by Willow:
I know when my kids had it while nursing it made my nipples feel like itchy fire so I would assume a baby's mouth would feel similar discomfort.
I'dtell her to go to a different pharmacy or buy it off the internet. It's been used for many generations and most people you ask will swear by it
I know when my kids had it while nursing it made my nipples feel like itchy fire so I would assume a baby's mouth would feel similar discomfort.
I'dtell her to go to a different pharmacy or buy it off the internet. It's been used for many generations and most people you ask will swear by it
Originally Posted by Christie71:
I would ask why pharmacist no longer stock it before putting it in an infants mouth...
I'm all for whole/natural alternatives but IMO it isn't nice to let a baby go through suffering for it...
I will ask mom to ask pharmacist for more details....it would be good info to have for future reference. I would ask why pharmacist no longer stock it before putting it in an infants mouth...
I'm all for whole/natural alternatives but IMO it isn't nice to let a baby go through suffering for it...
I have only had one DCK/DCM have thrush before and she used the gentian violet remedy so I KNOW it works but when this particular mom mentioned not using it, I figured I would ask the wise ladies of the forum for alternatives...
It started last week and didn't seem to be a real big issue but by the time baby went home on Friday, the tongue was COVERED!
Mom did the yogurt treatment over the weekend and this morning the whiteness seemed to be a lot less but then over lunch time whenever I tried to feed, the baby screamed so I assumed it was/is painful considering the behavior.
Thanks for the advice/suggestions ladies...I will keep you posted.
Cradle2crayons 04:16 PM 07-22-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Thank you! I will pass this info onto mom.
I will ask mom to ask pharmacist for more details....it would be good info to have for future reference.
I have only had one DCK/DCM have thrush before and she used the gentian violet remedy so I KNOW it works but when this particular mom mentioned not using it, I figured I would ask the wise ladies of the forum for alternatives...
It started last week and didn't seem to be a real big issue but by the time baby went home on Friday, the tongue was COVERED!
Mom did the yogurt treatment over the weekend and this morning the whiteness seemed to be a lot less but then over lunch time whenever I tried to feed, the baby screamed so I assumed it was/is painful considering the behavior.
Thanks for the advice/suggestions ladies...I will keep you posted.
Does mom realize that the anti fungal swabs and the Genetion violet are NOT ANTI BIOTICS??Thank you! I will pass this info onto mom.
I will ask mom to ask pharmacist for more details....it would be good info to have for future reference.
I have only had one DCK/DCM have thrush before and she used the gentian violet remedy so I KNOW it works but when this particular mom mentioned not using it, I figured I would ask the wise ladies of the forum for alternatives...
It started last week and didn't seem to be a real big issue but by the time baby went home on Friday, the tongue was COVERED!
Mom did the yogurt treatment over the weekend and this morning the whiteness seemed to be a lot less but then over lunch time whenever I tried to feed, the baby screamed so I assumed it was/is painful considering the behavior.
Thanks for the advice/suggestions ladies...I will keep you posted.
They are topical and aren't systemic like anti BIOTICS.
Both are safe, and work great.
Angelsj 06:08 PM 07-22-2013
You can use a good quality probiotic in capsule form (open it), mixed with a tiny amount of yogurt (plain). Spread it on nipples when beginning feeding, and again after feeding. Leave on until dry.
Before next feeding rinse nipples gently and reapply.
ETA It CAN be painful, but it is not always painful, for mom or baby.
Before next feeding rinse nipples gently and reapply.
ETA It CAN be painful, but it is not always painful, for mom or baby.
Familycare71 06:38 PM 07-22-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Thank you! I will pass this info onto mom.
I will ask mom to ask pharmacist for more details....it would be good info to have for future reference.
I have only had one DCK/DCM have thrush before and she used the gentian violet remedy so I KNOW it works but when this particular mom mentioned not using it, I figured I would ask the wise ladies of the forum for alternatives...
It started last week and didn't seem to be a real big issue but by the time baby went home on Friday, the tongue was COVERED!
Mom did the yogurt treatment over the weekend and this morning the whiteness seemed to be a lot less but then over lunch time whenever I tried to feed, the baby screamed so I assumed it was/is painful considering the behavior.
Thanks for the advice/suggestions ladies...I will keep you posted.
Please keep us posted- always good to know this kind of stuffThank you! I will pass this info onto mom.
I will ask mom to ask pharmacist for more details....it would be good info to have for future reference.
I have only had one DCK/DCM have thrush before and she used the gentian violet remedy so I KNOW it works but when this particular mom mentioned not using it, I figured I would ask the wise ladies of the forum for alternatives...
It started last week and didn't seem to be a real big issue but by the time baby went home on Friday, the tongue was COVERED!
Mom did the yogurt treatment over the weekend and this morning the whiteness seemed to be a lot less but then over lunch time whenever I tried to feed, the baby screamed so I assumed it was/is painful considering the behavior.
Thanks for the advice/suggestions ladies...I will keep you posted.
. I LOVE this forum for all of the advice and info so easily exchanged!!
LK5kids 06:24 AM 07-23-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Although no longer popular for various reasons, my vote always goes to gentian violet.
Works phenomenally well.
Agree....when NOTHING else worked, this did! Also, it lasted quite awhile and did not cycle out in two/three weeks????Although no longer popular for various reasons, my vote always goes to gentian violet.
Works phenomenally well.
Cat Herder 06:47 AM 07-23-2013
Originally Posted by LK5kids:
Agree....when NOTHING else worked, this did! Also, it lasted quite awhile and did not cycle out in two/three weeks????
Agree....when NOTHING else worked, this did! Also, it lasted quite awhile and did not cycle out in two/three weeks????
Oh, that is awful. I'd wonder if they did boil/disinfect all toys/pacifiers/bottle nipples etc. to prevent re-infection?
Blackcat31 07:04 AM 07-23-2013
Mom decided to take baby in this afternoon to see the pediatrician. The diaper area is now flaming red so mom decided it was best to bring baby in.
As far as mom being treated, she said she is doing yogurt treatment on her nipples, but she also said she uses a nipple guard while nursing so that has definitely helped.
We'll see what the Dr says this afternoon.
Poor babe.
As far as mom being treated, she said she is doing yogurt treatment on her nipples, but she also said she uses a nipple guard while nursing so that has definitely helped.
We'll see what the Dr says this afternoon.
Poor babe.
My3cents 07:44 AM 07-23-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Anyone know of any alternative methods (besides antibiotics) for treating thrush?
I have a newbie here who has it and mom is not wanting to do antibiotics (due to child's young age) so I was curious if there were any alternatives that may be effective/helpful.
milk of magnesia is what one of my parents used. Swab it around mouthAnyone know of any alternative methods (besides antibiotics) for treating thrush?
I have a newbie here who has it and mom is not wanting to do antibiotics (due to child's young age) so I was curious if there were any alternatives that may be effective/helpful.
LK5kids 03:09 PM 07-23-2013
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
Oh, that is awful.
I'd wonder if they did boil/disinfect all toys/pacifiers/bottle nipples etc. to prevent re-infection?
Newborn...totally breast fed, so no toys or bottles or pacifier.....maybe passed between mom and baby??? Oh, that is awful. I'd wonder if they did boil/disinfect all toys/pacifiers/bottle nipples etc. to prevent re-infection?
daycarediva 05:16 PM 07-23-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Although no longer popular for various reasons, my vote always goes to gentian violet.
Works phenomenally well.
Although no longer popular for various reasons, my vote always goes to gentian violet.
Works phenomenally well.
, along with yogurt on diaper area. Stains everything though, watch out.