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MissAnn 04:27 PM 09-10-2011
Please tell me if you have a great idea for markers. I have several new kids who have never been in a program. They are not putting lids back on the markers. I have gone down to only having a few markers out at a time to make cleanup more manageable until they can handle having more. Still, I'd like to know if you have any marvelous ideas! I like the marker stands that have holes to put the lids and then you just snap the correct colored marker in the lid.....but I've only seen large ones....that hold about 16 markers. I'd love to find on that holds 10....just how many a box of markers come in and is manageable for kids to carry around. I just can't find it. I know you can make them....but I'm not going to do that. I'd mess it up.
VTMom 04:55 PM 09-10-2011
I have a set of markers for each kid. They're bagged with their name on it. It amazed me at how careful the kids were when they were their "own" markers! It has helped my crew and it's nice that they have something of their own.
MissAnn 04:57 PM 09-10-2011
What kind of bags do you use? This might be an idea for me.
Thanks!
Thanks!
VTMom 05:14 PM 09-10-2011
Originally Posted by MissAnn:
What kind of bags do you use? This might be an idea for me.
Thanks!
I just use plastic resealable sandwich bags and write their names with perm marker. You could use quart bags if you have the larger markers. What kind of bags do you use? This might be an idea for me.
Thanks!
I've been thinking about getting canvas tote bags for each child with their name on it so they can store their markers and doodle pads, and maybe adding their own box of crayons, pencils, etc, but I haven't gone forward with it yet. They have access to crayons, pencils, paper, and community markers at all times, but they like their own.
daycare 05:34 PM 09-10-2011
I use pencil boxes and each child had one of their own that contains:
1set markers
1box crayons
1 glue stick
1 safety scissors
1 sheet of stickers replaced after used
2 stamps
1 ink pad
3 paint brushes
1 water color set
Btw pencil boxes are on sale at walmart oght now for $.50
I just got 3 more
If the kids don't take care of their stuff then they don't have anything to use.
1set markers
1box crayons
1 glue stick
1 safety scissors
1 sheet of stickers replaced after used
2 stamps
1 ink pad
3 paint brushes
1 water color set
Btw pencil boxes are on sale at walmart oght now for $.50
I just got 3 more
If the kids don't take care of their stuff then they don't have anything to use.
Crystal 04:58 PM 09-10-2011
If they do not put the lids back on them, mostly, then they don't get to use them. Not in a mean way, but it's that simple. Give them crayons for a week or two, no markers, and then offer them to them again. Repeat if neccessary. They will get it in time. 
Crystal 05:01 PM 09-10-2011
BTW....I have different types of markers, crayons, colored pencils, pens and lead pencils, and lots of paper out and accessible to the children at all times and pretty much at all times there are 1-6 children drawing/writing. When I have an issue with lids on markers - I only limit marker access to the child(ren) who are not putting the caps back on. The rest of the kids still use them.
They do typically learn quickly to replace the caps.
They do typically learn quickly to replace the caps.
Blackcat31 08:48 PM 09-10-2011
Originally Posted by Crystal:
If they do not put the lids back on them, mostly, then they don't get to use them. Not in a mean way, but it's that simple. Give them crayons for a week or two, no markers, and then offer them to them again. Repeat if neccessary. They will get it in time.
Same here. It is the same concept Nan talked about in the picking up toys thread. Kids shouldn't have access to things they aren't developmentally able to manage. If they do not put the lids back on them, mostly, then they don't get to use them. Not in a mean way, but it's that simple. Give them crayons for a week or two, no markers, and then offer them to them again. Repeat if neccessary. They will get it in time.
Like Crystal said, repeat the cycle of testing readiness. When they can master putting lids back on then they are ready to use markers and can have access to them.
daycare 09:20 PM 09-10-2011
You know I love you and Nan bit I have to disagree
I think that early exposure at the recommended age of the product is necessary. If we don't expose them how are they to learn?
I think that kids are a lot more capable of doing amazing things if we just gave them the chance to try. Just like adults most of the tine they won't perfect things or grasp the concept the first time they are shown.
I have 2 year olds that put caps on markers and 4 year olds that don't. I don't take the markers away, I let them keep the markers in their box and they soon learn that if the caps are left off the markers don't work.
After a few weeks, I will throw out the bad markers of those that ruin them and only give them one marker in their box to learn to care for. If it's success then I will add another marker to the box. The child will usually learn this way thAt they must care for the things they have. If we take it away how will they learn to ever care for them or anything else? To me it's a sense of teaching appreciation and responsibility.
I think that early exposure at the recommended age of the product is necessary. If we don't expose them how are they to learn?
I think that kids are a lot more capable of doing amazing things if we just gave them the chance to try. Just like adults most of the tine they won't perfect things or grasp the concept the first time they are shown.
I have 2 year olds that put caps on markers and 4 year olds that don't. I don't take the markers away, I let them keep the markers in their box and they soon learn that if the caps are left off the markers don't work.
After a few weeks, I will throw out the bad markers of those that ruin them and only give them one marker in their box to learn to care for. If it's success then I will add another marker to the box. The child will usually learn this way thAt they must care for the things they have. If we take it away how will they learn to ever care for them or anything else? To me it's a sense of teaching appreciation and responsibility.
daycare 09:36 PM 09-10-2011
Sorry I'm on my phone and can't edit my changes from the previous post. Lol
I hope it made sense....
I hope it made sense....
MissAnn 05:52 AM 09-11-2011
Originally Posted by daycare:
You know I love you and Nan bit I have to disagree
I think that early exposure at the recommended age of the product is necessary. If we don't expose them how are they to learn?
I think that kids are a lot more capable of doing amazing things if we just gave them the chance to try. Just like adults most of the tine they won't perfect things or grasp the concept the first time they are shown.
I have 2 year olds that put caps on markers and 4 year olds that don't. I don't take the markers away, I let them keep the markers in their box and they soon learn that if the caps are left off the markers don't work.
After a few weeks, I will throw out the bad markers of those that ruin them and only give them one marker in their box to learn to care for. If it's success then I will add another marker to the box. The child will usually learn this way thAt they must care for the things they have. If we take it away how will they learn to ever care for them or anything else? To me it's a sense of teaching appreciation and responsibility.
I agree. The kids here are capable, but the majority are new and have been going to grandma's during the day. They are not used to doing things themselves. It's a habit they are quite capable of breaking. They are getting better each day.....with clean up and other routines.You know I love you and Nan bit I have to disagree
I think that early exposure at the recommended age of the product is necessary. If we don't expose them how are they to learn?
I think that kids are a lot more capable of doing amazing things if we just gave them the chance to try. Just like adults most of the tine they won't perfect things or grasp the concept the first time they are shown.
I have 2 year olds that put caps on markers and 4 year olds that don't. I don't take the markers away, I let them keep the markers in their box and they soon learn that if the caps are left off the markers don't work.
After a few weeks, I will throw out the bad markers of those that ruin them and only give them one marker in their box to learn to care for. If it's success then I will add another marker to the box. The child will usually learn this way thAt they must care for the things they have. If we take it away how will they learn to ever care for them or anything else? To me it's a sense of teaching appreciation and responsibility.
countrymom 06:07 AM 09-11-2011
Originally Posted by daycare:
You know I love you and Nan bit I have to disagree
I think that early exposure at the recommended age of the product is necessary. If we don't expose them how are they to learn?
I think that kids are a lot more capable of doing amazing things if we just gave them the chance to try. Just like adults most of the tine they won't perfect things or grasp the concept the first time they are shown.
I have 2 year olds that put caps on markers and 4 year olds that don't. I don't take the markers away, I let them keep the markers in their box and they soon learn that if the caps are left off the markers don't work.
After a few weeks, I will throw out the bad markers of those that ruin them and only give them one marker in their box to learn to care for. If it's success then I will add another marker to the box. The child will usually learn this way thAt they must care for the things they have. If we take it away how will they learn to ever care for them or anything else? To me it's a sense of teaching appreciation and responsibility.
I have to agree with you. I have lots of 2 yr olds who use markers and are really good but marker lids are very very hard to get on, even sometimes I have a hard time so I don't expect the youngsters to be able to do it too.You know I love you and Nan bit I have to disagree
I think that early exposure at the recommended age of the product is necessary. If we don't expose them how are they to learn?
I think that kids are a lot more capable of doing amazing things if we just gave them the chance to try. Just like adults most of the tine they won't perfect things or grasp the concept the first time they are shown.
I have 2 year olds that put caps on markers and 4 year olds that don't. I don't take the markers away, I let them keep the markers in their box and they soon learn that if the caps are left off the markers don't work.
After a few weeks, I will throw out the bad markers of those that ruin them and only give them one marker in their box to learn to care for. If it's success then I will add another marker to the box. The child will usually learn this way thAt they must care for the things they have. If we take it away how will they learn to ever care for them or anything else? To me it's a sense of teaching appreciation and responsibility.
Blackcat31 06:12 AM 09-11-2011
Originally Posted by daycare:
You know I love you and Nan bit I have to disagree
I think that early exposure at the recommended age of the product is necessary. If we don't expose them how are they to learn?
I think that kids are a lot more capable of doing amazing things if we just gave them the chance to try. Just like adults most of the tine they won't perfect things or grasp the concept the first time they are shown.
I have 2 year olds that put caps on markers and 4 year olds that don't. I don't take the markers away, I let them keep the markers in their box and they soon learn that if the caps are left off the markers don't work.
After a few weeks, I will throw out the bad markers of those that ruin them and only give them one marker in their box to learn to care for. If it's success then I will add another marker to the box. The child will usually learn this way thAt they must care for the things they have. If we take it away how will they learn to ever care for them or anything else? To me it's a sense of teaching appreciation and responsibility.
I didn't say they weren't ever allowed to use them. I re-check for ability every few weeks or so and when they are ready they can have free access to them. These same kids can use the markers when I am directly involved in the use of them so I can make sure the caps are replaced but I am not ususally directly involved in their coloring. I do not have time to sit and be the marker police. If the kids need that much one on one attention just for using markers, they'll need access to them at home and not my house where I have 10 kids everyday. You know I love you and Nan bit I have to disagree
I think that early exposure at the recommended age of the product is necessary. If we don't expose them how are they to learn?
I think that kids are a lot more capable of doing amazing things if we just gave them the chance to try. Just like adults most of the tine they won't perfect things or grasp the concept the first time they are shown.
I have 2 year olds that put caps on markers and 4 year olds that don't. I don't take the markers away, I let them keep the markers in their box and they soon learn that if the caps are left off the markers don't work.
After a few weeks, I will throw out the bad markers of those that ruin them and only give them one marker in their box to learn to care for. If it's success then I will add another marker to the box. The child will usually learn this way thAt they must care for the things they have. If we take it away how will they learn to ever care for them or anything else? To me it's a sense of teaching appreciation and responsibility.
I help foster and support responsibility. I am not the sole teacher of those skills. The parents need to play a role in the child's learning as well. I do what works for a group of kids. Same goes for scissors. If I am directly involved, the kids who haven't mastered them can use them but if I am not directly involved with the activitiy, they do not get scissors.
There are plenty of other activities that will help children master putting marker lids on instead of actually using markers.
And FWIW, markers are recommended for age 3 and up so I don't feel one bit bad about not exposing a 2 year old to them.
Daycare~ You have also stated you give each child their own set of markers so if they don't put a cap back on, it is their own marker that is ruined. My markers are communal and it isn't fair if one little guy ruins the blue one for everyone else...kwim?
Crystal 12:28 PM 09-11-2011
Originally Posted by daycare:
You know I love you and Nan bit I have to disagree
I think that early exposure at the recommended age of the product is necessary. If we don't expose them how are they to learn?
I think that kids are a lot more capable of doing amazing things if we just gave them the chance to try. Just like adults most of the tine they won't perfect things or grasp the concept the first time they are shown.
I have 2 year olds that put caps on markers and 4 year olds that don't. I don't take the markers away, I let them keep the markers in their box and they soon learn that if the caps are left off the markers don't work.
After a few weeks, I will throw out the bad markers of those that ruin them and only give them one marker in their box to learn to care for. If it's success then I will add another marker to the box. The child will usually learn this way thAt they must care for the things they have. If we take it away how will they learn to ever care for them or anything else? To me it's a sense of teaching appreciation and responsibility.
My children have access to ALL materials as soon as they strt walking. I redirect to have them use materials appropriately. BUT, when it is constant, then they lose privileges. From THAT, they learn that they WANT to take care of the materials so that they can use them again. I teach ppreciation and responsibility by taking things before they ruin them, because I don't wanna be wasteful and keep replacing materials that cost me money. You know I love you and Nan bit I have to disagree
I think that early exposure at the recommended age of the product is necessary. If we don't expose them how are they to learn?
I think that kids are a lot more capable of doing amazing things if we just gave them the chance to try. Just like adults most of the tine they won't perfect things or grasp the concept the first time they are shown.
I have 2 year olds that put caps on markers and 4 year olds that don't. I don't take the markers away, I let them keep the markers in their box and they soon learn that if the caps are left off the markers don't work.
After a few weeks, I will throw out the bad markers of those that ruin them and only give them one marker in their box to learn to care for. If it's success then I will add another marker to the box. The child will usually learn this way thAt they must care for the things they have. If we take it away how will they learn to ever care for them or anything else? To me it's a sense of teaching appreciation and responsibility.
MyAngels 09:20 PM 09-10-2011
When I worked at a center (many years ago) we put plaster of paris in a 8 x 8 cake pan & stuck the marker lids in to create our own marker holder. But nowadays I just do as Crystal and Blackcat suggested & ask the kids who are capable to be responsible & put the lids back on when they are finished.
MissAnn 04:07 AM 09-23-2011
Originally Posted by VTMom:
I have a set of markers for each kid. They're bagged with their name on it. It amazed me at how careful the kids were when they were their "own" markers! It has helped my crew and it's nice that they have something of their own.
I just wanted to check back in and tell you that this was an excellent idea! I bought pencil pouches....the kind that goes in binders and have a zipper. We had a lesson on different ways to put the lid back on (they like putting the lid on the table and punching the pen into it and listening for the snap). I showed them how to only get out one pen at a time so they will not lose any of them. When I fnd a pen on the ground (after they've gone to another activity) it becomes MY pen. I have a stash. Some of the kids pens have dwindled a bit. On Monday they will have all their pens restored back into their pouches. This is saving me money! I was buying pens constantly because lids were left off. Thank you for the idea!I have a set of markers for each kid. They're bagged with their name on it. It amazed me at how careful the kids were when they were their "own" markers! It has helped my crew and it's nice that they have something of their own.
Hunni Bee 08:04 PM 09-10-2011
Originally Posted by MissAnn:
Please tell me if you have a great idea for markers. I have several new kids who have never been in a program. They are not putting lids back on the markers. I have gone down to only having a few markers out at a time to make cleanup more manageable until they can handle having more. Still, I'd like to know if you have any marvelous ideas! I like the marker stands that have holes to put the lids and then you just snap the correct colored marker in the lid.....but I've only seen large ones....that hold about 16 markers. I'd love to find on that holds 10....just how many a box of markers come in and is manageable for kids to carry around. I just can't find it. I know you can make them....but I'm not going to do that. I'd mess it up.
I've tried everything too...I even taped a string to the marker and cap. I finally just used the marker holder and hotglued the caps into it. Only thing that has worked...except that they never put the right marker into the right cap...because the new Crayola markers are black and dont indicate the color on the barrel. Please tell me if you have a great idea for markers. I have several new kids who have never been in a program. They are not putting lids back on the markers. I have gone down to only having a few markers out at a time to make cleanup more manageable until they can handle having more. Still, I'd like to know if you have any marvelous ideas! I like the marker stands that have holes to put the lids and then you just snap the correct colored marker in the lid.....but I've only seen large ones....that hold about 16 markers. I'd love to find on that holds 10....just how many a box of markers come in and is manageable for kids to carry around. I just can't find it. I know you can make them....but I'm not going to do that. I'd mess it up.
I've heard an easy way to make one...just get a big ball of modeling clay and stick the markers in it and let it dry.
Crystal 07:55 PM 09-11-2011
Mom2Many - YES! I LOVE observing the children as they paint and explore. I like to play classical music as they paint....watch how they "flow" with the music as they paint.
I do "community style" with the supplies, also. This way they learn to share and to negotiate to get what they want/need. Great life skills!
I do "community style" with the supplies, also. This way they learn to share and to negotiate to get what they want/need. Great life skills!
mom2many 08:15 PM 09-11-2011
Originally Posted by Crystal:
Mom2Many - YES! I LOVE observing the children as they paint and explore. I like to play classical music as they paint....watch how they "flow" with the music as they paint.
I do "community style" with the supplies, also. This way they learn to share and to negotiate to get what they want/need. Great life skills!
Absolutely! I cannot agree with you more! Mom2Many - YES! I LOVE observing the children as they paint and explore. I like to play classical music as they paint....watch how they "flow" with the music as they paint.
I do "community style" with the supplies, also. This way they learn to share and to negotiate to get what they want/need. Great life skills!
I often have them share supplies and it is such a great way for them to negotiate!!!
bweir 05:39 AM 09-12-2011
MissAnn
There is a great new product that i found on Drugstore.com of all places that may take care of your marker problem. It's call Snap Cap Markers. There are no separate caps and the markers are the perfect size for the kids. It has a base with built in caps and the markers are easy for the kids to see the colors. I looked them up and their site is www.snapcapmarkers.com I hope that helps!!
There is a great new product that i found on Drugstore.com of all places that may take care of your marker problem. It's call Snap Cap Markers. There are no separate caps and the markers are the perfect size for the kids. It has a base with built in caps and the markers are easy for the kids to see the colors. I looked them up and their site is www.snapcapmarkers.com I hope that helps!!
mismatchedsocks 12:17 PM 09-12-2011
No scissors, markers or paint out here. Those are materials that I have to get out. Pencils, crayons, chalk, paper are all in bins that can be accessed all the time. I have a mixed age 5 weeks to 12 years. Never had marks on walls, but I am always right there at art time.
I have seen wooden blocks that have holes drilled in and the marker top glued in it. It still is hard to "click" the top on and I have no problem checking markers as we put them away, as long as they try.
I do art with all ages. From the time they can sit in booster ( 6-8 months) they are included. We paint, draw, everything but scissors with younger toddlers. I find it easier to do this and teach them not to put in mouth, not to write on wall, what to do with paint brush, etc. They will learn from others, and by time they can get free art out themselves they know how to use all items.
I have seen wooden blocks that have holes drilled in and the marker top glued in it. It still is hard to "click" the top on and I have no problem checking markers as we put them away, as long as they try.
I do art with all ages. From the time they can sit in booster ( 6-8 months) they are included. We paint, draw, everything but scissors with younger toddlers. I find it easier to do this and teach them not to put in mouth, not to write on wall, what to do with paint brush, etc. They will learn from others, and by time they can get free art out themselves they know how to use all items.