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Yesterday 01:18 PM
AmyKidsCo
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Originally Posted by Sunshine69 View Post
Parents that call Friday afternoon and want childcare for three kids by Monday morning.

Uh, NO!
YIKES!!
Yesterday 12:35 PM
Sunshine69 Parents that call Friday afternoon and want childcare for three kids by Monday morning.

Uh, NO!
Yesterday 11:52 AM
Bluemoon5 DCM let us know that dcb would be in late this morning due to doctor's appointment. Fine, no problem. During the summer we do water play every morning and the kids all come in their bathing suits. Dcb arrives at 10:30 (the time we go outside) in regular clothes and no bathing suit. DCM also leaves a note that dcb has not had snack yet (we eat snack at 9:30). Then later in the morning dcb bites a chunk of flesh out of another child (okay, I might be exaggerating a bit, but it was a nasty bite.) *sigh* TGIF.
08-06-2020 01:11 PM
CenterTeacher20
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
I have been trying to get into the forum since 630 this morning. Finally I am here. I was beginning to think I did something.
Same here!!
08-06-2020 12:59 PM
Cat Herder I have been trying to get into the forum since 630 this morning. Finally I am here. I was beginning to think I did something.
08-05-2020 05:08 PM
springvalley112 There's a girl I graduated high school with that tested positive for covid and is in a bigger hospital on a vent and ECMO.
08-05-2020 09:55 AM
Annalee My cousin with dh and two sons (6 and 8) went to Panama city last week and have come back with covid..........are ok but have it. My aunt (this cousin's mom) whom has lung/breathing issues now we think has it but has to be tested???

My niece's father and mother in law have it....a medium case for both.

My county is seeing a surge with infections, not necessarily deaths, but covid infections. School now starts Monday/10th but now have mandated masks for everyone and I give it two weeks.

Again, I'm not scared, per se, but still have major concerns. I am the primary bread winner in my family. Our grants that I have used end in August; so YES I AM CONCERNED FOR MY LIVELIHOOD....getting close to home/community again. Yes; I CAN make everyone pay and I CAN run my business as I want but I still have to have families STAY with me for this to happen....lots of variables affecting EVERY family so they have to do what is best for them as well.
08-02-2020 12:35 PM
CeriBear This is sad rather than a true vent but...

On Friday a 4yo child asked me if policemen were bad. I told him no, that police officers are good and help to keep us safe. He then said he heard on TV that police were bad.

Makes me sad what kids hear these days.
Sad and mad.
08-01-2020 09:36 AM
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07-31-2020 01:35 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by springvalley112 View Post
I may be old fashioned but children SHOULD NOT be allowed to listen to adult conversations because they don't need to know what adults talk about and they need to worry about being a child!!! What if they went home and told their parent what the child done in daycare and the next morning the parent wants to know what happened and if it involved her child? How would you respond?????
Also why is the responsibility the child's in this situation?

Wouldn't it be the ADULT'S responsibility to try not to discuss anything the child shouldn't overhear.

Adults need to worry about children being children and be the adult in the situation verses placing blame on the child.
07-31-2020 01:32 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by springvalley112 View Post
I may be old fashioned but children SHOULD NOT be allowed to listen to adult conversations because they don't need to know what adults talk about and they need to worry about being a child!!! What if they went home and told their parent what the child done in daycare and the next morning the parent wants to know what happened and if it involved her child? How would you respond?????
I don't think it has anything to do with being old fashioned.

The children in my care over hear most everything I say to other parents/adults and most of it they already know via being present in care and seeing first hand who hit/bit/pushed who etc.

Most of those kids do go home and tell a parent Johnny hit Billy or Susie pushed Janie but who did what doesn't come from me. I do not tell parents which child hit/bit/pushed their child. This falls under confidentiality and it's discussed upon enrollment so ALL parents know I am not in the business of sharing info like that.

However, IF a parent did come back to care the next day all riled about about Johnny hitting their child, I would tell them the same thing I said above. Just because they have the information doesn't give them permission to do anything about it. If it became dramatic and the parent demanded I do something.... I would terminate that parent/family.

Problem solved.

The ideal solution to not wanting littles to overhear adult conversation is to have adult conversation where there are no little ears to overhear. This could be a phone call or a face to face meeting in a closed office or adult space where DCKs are not allowed.
07-31-2020 11:55 AM
springvalley112 I may be old fashioned but children SHOULD NOT be allowed to listen to adult conversations because they don't need to know what adults talk about and they need to worry about being a child!!! What if they went home and told their parent what the child done in daycare and the next morning the parent wants to know what happened and if it involved her child? How would you respond?????
07-28-2020 10:53 AM
daycarediva "This is age appropriate behavior for children that age. We have X safety measures in place to prevent future incidents. In addition, we did speak to your child about poking peers. I also did not disclose the name of your child to the other's parents."

Geeze, helicopter parents.
07-25-2020 08:47 PM
ZenZen Hen
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Originally Posted by springvalley112 View Post
I would've told the parent that if they've got a problem with the care and also have problems with the employees then they can find new care. I would also tell the older child in the parents presence that what happens at daycare stays at daycare and that the older child shouldn't listen to adult conversations and to keep their opinion to theirselves and their mouths shut!!!!!😠😠😠
If I had responded with such wording I would have been written up, guaranteed. Also, the child is four, quite smart and empathetic, why wouldn't she listen to adult conversation? That's an avenue for children to learn through.
07-25-2020 07:59 PM
Former Teacher
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Originally Posted by ZenZen Hen View Post
A troublesome parent was upset that her kid had a rock thrown at them (after the child went and poked another child in the eye). She wanted the name of the child who had thrown the rock, going so far as to ask her barely 2 year old child who he poked (he didn't understand the question) after I denied her request TWICE.
She complained that its "difficult for her" when some people here tell her things and others don't. I wish I had been quick enough to say that "others breaking policy does not reflect on the fact that I will adhere to our policy to protect the identities of children and their families while in attendance at the center."
Instead I told her to take it up with managment. To make it worse her older child was there (smart, smart cookie) asking me why I wouldn't tell her mom who did it.
I remember once when a 2, almost 3 year old got bit. The Director told the parent of the child who was bitten. She didn't name names. She just explained there was a fight and before the caregiver went over there (she was changing a diaper and couldn't get there fast enough) the child was bitten.

The mother was furious. She demanded to know who bit her son etc etc. Finally the Director told her that while SHE couldn't give the name of the child, if she wanted to ask her child, he could. The mother kept on asking but he wouldn't tell her. Probably because it was he himself who started all the BS and deserved to be bit

Just kidding! Well....he did start it....he just didn't finish it.
07-25-2020 02:12 PM
springvalley112
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Originally Posted by ZenZen Hen View Post
A troublesome parent was upset that her kid had a rock thrown at them (after the child went and poked another child in the eye). She wanted the name of the child who had thrown the rock, going so far as to ask her barely 2 year old child who he poked (he didn't understand the question) after I denied her request TWICE.
She complained that its "difficult for her" when some people here tell her things and others don't. I wish I had been quick enough to say that "others breaking policy does not reflect on the fact that I will adhere to our policy to protect the identities of children and their families while in attendance at the center."
Instead I told her to take it up with managment. To make it worse her older child was there (smart, smart cookie) asking me why I wouldn't tell her mom who did it.
I would've told the parent that if they've got a problem with the care and also have problems with the employees then they can find new care. I would also tell the older child in the parents presence that what happens at daycare stays at daycare and that the older child shouldn't listen to adult conversations and to keep their opinion to theirselves and their mouths shut!!!!!😠😠😠
07-25-2020 12:11 AM
ZenZen Hen A troublesome parent was upset that her kid had a rock thrown at them (after the child went and poked another child in the eye). She wanted the name of the child who had thrown the rock, going so far as to ask her barely 2 year old child who he poked (he didn't understand the question) after I denied her request TWICE.
She complained that its "difficult for her" when some people here tell her things and others don't. I wish I had been quick enough to say that "others breaking policy does not reflect on the fact that I will adhere to our policy to protect the identities of children and their families while in attendance at the center."
Instead I told her to take it up with managment. To make it worse her older child was there (smart, smart cookie) asking me why I wouldn't tell her mom who did it.
07-14-2020 05:06 AM
CountryRoads Newborn sibling of a current dck starting soon. Dcm complains all the time about how difficult and fussy baby is.

Wonderful
07-13-2020 11:48 AM
Rockgirl Iím in Texas....I know more people who carry than not. As BC stated, people who are legally carrying have been through a licensing process. Honestly, I feel safer knowing responsible gun owners are around me in public places.
07-12-2020 03:14 PM
Blackcat31 Glad I donít live in your area... Iíd feel bad that the worst is automatically assumed or that Iím crazy simply because I carry a gun.
07-12-2020 12:10 PM
springvalley112 There's to many crazy folks today and it makes me think the worse. We had a parent once have their personal gun on them while they came to sign their child up for the after school program and if one of the kids had gotten a hold of it, it wouldn't have been good
07-12-2020 06:59 AM
284878
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Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
Why would you think theyíre going to bring it into the child care?

The vast majority of gun owners are safe responsible adults.

In most states in order to get a concealed carry permit (which is required to buy a hand gun) you are required to take a class that educates you in regards to when and where you may carry your weapon.

I wouldnít automatically assume theyíre going to come into the center waving their gun around.
🙂 I had a parent tell me that he had just got licensed to sell and make guns, of he wanted to make them.
07-11-2020 03:50 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by springvalley112 View Post
Had a parent post on FB that they were at a gun range and got a new gun for protection. Hope they don't bring it into the daycare when they pick up their children.
Why would you think theyíre going to bring it into the child care?

The vast majority of gun owners are safe responsible adults.

In most states in order to get a concealed carry permit (which is required to buy a hand gun) you are required to take a class that educates you in regards to when and where you may carry your weapon.

I wouldnít automatically assume theyíre going to come into the center waving their gun around.
07-11-2020 09:44 AM
springvalley112 Had a parent post on FB that they were at a gun range and got a new gun for protection. Hope they don't bring it into the daycare when they pick up their children.
07-10-2020 08:02 AM
Unregistered Had a mom tell me her kid is wearing new shoes and not to let her get them dirty not a thing on them. Pure whit shoes! WTH.
07-09-2020 10:43 AM
Annalee
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Originally Posted by springvalley112 View Post
We have that exact same problem at our center in terms of little girls wearing dresses and no shorts underneath or their shorts being to short. I wish we had a dress code or something saying what they can and can't wear!!!!
I'd rather have the dresses worn than these skinny jeans for boys and girls that they can't pull up after pottying. Or the shorts that are made out of the same material and can't be pulled up without help. Some of these kids have to be melted to get into such kinds of clothes.
07-09-2020 07:50 AM
Former Teacher
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Originally Posted by CeriBear View Post
OMG! And I tend to get a little mad when a parent sends a girl in a dress without shorts underneath.

My vent for the day. Why do some parents think itís great for 4 year old Johnny to be able to recite his ABCs, name all the dinosaurs, and know that the presidents name is Donald Trump yet not how to put on his own Velcro shoes, peel a banana, or wipe his bottom. Seriously. How about teaching some basic self help skills.
I hear ya!

Way back when, we had a 4 year old whose mother told me that I had to spoon feed him lunch otherwise he won't eat

Long story short, at lunch that day, I told him that either he eats or he can wait until lunch was over so that he and his new friends can all play. I was NOT going to feed him.

He sat there a good 5 mins just staring at his plate. Then he started eating. And he ate it all.

Mom came and first thing she asked was how did lunch go. I told her that it was fine and he fed himself. She went I explained to her that I didn't have time to feed a child that was perfectly capable of doing it himself.

He did the same thing (where he just sat for a few mins) for the next few days. When he realized that I wasn't going to do it at all, he eventually just starting eating when everyone else did
07-09-2020 05:42 AM
284878
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Originally Posted by springvalley112 View Post
We have that exact same problem at our center in terms of little girls wearing dresses and no shorts underneath or their shorts being to short. I wish we had a dress code or something saying what they can and can't wear!!!!
Ugh, I have only one dcg and she wears tight shorts, that are so tight that it causes her diaper to bulge off to one size or give her a camel toe bulge when she pees. Then when she has a dress, her shorts are loose.
07-09-2020 03:55 AM
Josiegirl
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Originally Posted by CeriBear View Post
OMG! And I tend to get a little mad when a parent sends a girl in a dress without shorts underneath.

My vent for the day. Why do some parents think itís great for 4 year old Johnny to be able to recite his ABCs, name all the dinosaurs, and know that the presidents name is Donald Trump yet not how to put on his own Velcro shoes, peel a banana, or wipe his bottom. Seriously. How about teaching some basic self help skills.
Where's the love button when you need it??!!

And it's so true. Sadly. My nephew was smart as a whip at age 4 but momma was still spoon feeding him.
07-08-2020 01:53 PM
Sunshine69
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Originally Posted by CeriBear View Post
My vent for the day. Why do some parents think itís great for 4 year old Johnny to be able to recite his ABCs, name all the dinosaurs, and know that the presidents name is Donald Trump yet not how to put on his own Velcro shoes, peel a banana, or wipe his bottom. Seriously. How about teaching some basic self help skills.
OMG! I hear you! I bite my tongue when dcp brags how smart dcb is compared to other kids his age. It makes it hard for me to give good reports about him because I know it will go strait to dcpís head, but when I mention Dcb needs to work on some self-help skills they donít even acknowledge. 🤷*♀️
07-08-2020 01:17 PM
springvalley112 We have that exact same problem at our center in terms of little girls wearing dresses and no shorts underneath or their shorts being to short. I wish we had a dress code or something saying what they can and can't wear!!!!
07-08-2020 08:08 AM
CeriBear
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
Dcm forgot to put underwear...on her 4 year old...who is also wearing a dress
OMG! And I tend to get a little mad when a parent sends a girl in a dress without shorts underneath.

My vent for the day. Why do some parents think itís great for 4 year old Johnny to be able to recite his ABCs, name all the dinosaurs, and know that the presidents name is Donald Trump yet not how to put on his own Velcro shoes, peel a banana, or wipe his bottom. Seriously. How about teaching some basic self help skills.
07-01-2020 07:58 AM
CountryRoads
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Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
Um okay... It's kinda funny...

I try to persuade parents to not send their child in dresses but if they do, they are required to wear shorts underneath so even if they did forget underwear, they'd still need shorts on.

I think I'd call that parent and request a change of clothing unless child has spares at your house.
Thankfully, the child has a spare change of clothes here. Dcm realized she forgot to put on underwear when she dropped off.

Dcm: "Well, at least I remembered to feed her."
07-01-2020 07:55 AM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
Dcm forgot to put underwear...on her 4 year old...who is also wearing a dress
Um okay... It's kinda funny...

I try to persuade parents to not send their child in dresses but if they do, they are required to wear shorts underneath so even if they did forget underwear, they'd still need shorts on.

I think I'd call that parent and request a change of clothing unless child has spares at your house.
07-01-2020 06:52 AM
CountryRoads Dcm forgot to put underwear...on her 4 year old...who is also wearing a dress
06-24-2020 03:38 AM
Josiegirl
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
Every year, I have families that are gone for several days because they take a vacation.

But as soon as MY family decides to take a vacation, it's annoyed looks, comments, and awkwardness. Like I'm not allowed to have a life outside of daycare because it's an inconvenience to them.

Like it's somehow my fault that they don't have back-up care.


Why is it a double standard?

That used to frustrate me too. The last several years I had great understanding families. But before that, if I wasn't available all the time they let me know with all their whining and 'oh no, whatever shall *I* do?' I got to the point where I didn't care, wasn't my problem.

Blackcat, if I die and come back as another ccprovider, I want to be just like you.
06-23-2020 02:15 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by CeriBear View Post
I do this as well. Iím often commenting and praising the kids who follow the rules rather than getting after those who do little things that are wrong. If a couple of kids are messing around with each other during circle time I might say something like ďlook how nice and quiet John and Suzie are being. Sitting like big kids, voices off, listening to Ms. Ceri.Ē Usually everyone else follows suit.
Itís the aggressive behaviors that are hard to deal with. When he gets upset or frustrated he becomes aggressive towards others. Iíve tried telling him that itís okay to be upset or angry but that he needs to just take some deep breaths and calm down before reacting. Does kicking another child really help even if the other child grabbed his green crayon? How else could he have solved the problem.
Aggressive behaviors are common for littles with limited verbal skills and those with delayed development but at 4 it is unacceptable for him to behave that way.

The FIRST time he was aggressive towards another child, he would be immediately separated from the others (except when he is directly by my side). He would shadow me all day and would need to earn back his right to play with the others.

A documented report would be sent home to the parents as well. I would outline the possibility of termination should the behavior continue.

The FIRST time he hit/kicked or became aggressive towards myself or another adult, he would be sent home immediately. Three times and he would be terminated.

Aggressive and violent behavior is not something I am willing to tolerate nor correct without the lead from a parent. I will support and assist the parent in teaching their child to use alternate methods of expression but I will not do it alone nor will I shoulder the bulk of the responsibility.

I am sorry you are dealing with this issue.
It's one of the toughest we deal with in group care but it's also one that isn't taken seriously enough by adults IMPO and that is part of the issue as well.
06-23-2020 12:54 PM
CountryRoads Every year, I have families that are gone for several days because they take a vacation.

But as soon as MY family decides to take a vacation, it's annoyed looks, comments, and awkwardness. Like I'm not allowed to have a life outside of daycare because it's an inconvenience to them.

Like it's somehow my fault that they don't have back-up care.

Why is it a double standard?
06-20-2020 04:07 AM
CeriBear
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Originally Posted by Josiegirl View Post
IIRC, Blackcat does something like this: Overly praise the others that are following your rules while ignoring his bad behavior(unless he's physical). Then when he chooses to follow the rules, praise him as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong; BC had a much better way of telling it.
I do this as well. I’m often commenting and praising the kids who follow the rules rather than getting after those who do little things that are wrong. If a couple of kids are messing around with each other during circle time I might say something like “look how nice and quiet John and Suzie are being. Sitting like big kids, voices off, listening to Ms. Ceri.” Usually everyone else follows suit.
It’s the aggressive behaviors that are hard to deal with. When he gets upset or frustrated he becomes aggressive towards others. I’ve tried telling him that it’s okay to be upset or angry but that he needs to just take some deep breaths and calm down before reacting. Does kicking another child really help even if the other child grabbed his green crayon? How else could he have solved the problem.
06-19-2020 10:43 AM
Josiegirl
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Originally Posted by CeriBear View Post
I have a 4 year old who is constantly pushing my buttons with his behavior. Normally I donít let the childrenís actions get to me but this kid is making me go nuts. He can be sweet at times but when something upsets him he acts aggressive either toward himself, another child, or me. Yesterday, he kicked my assistant, slapped at me, kicked a table, and threw a toy at another child. He canít sit still at circle time or stay focused on any activity other than running on the playground. I can handle kids who are stubborn but his aggressiveness worries me. Iíve spoken to his parents and they say when he reacts like this he is given a time out or a privilege taken away but time outs donít work for him at school. He wonít sit quietly and he doesnít seem to learn from them. Nor does taking away a privilege such as being ďline leaderĒ or telling him ďno block area.Ē
IIRC, Blackcat does something like this: Overly praise the others that are following your rules while ignoring his bad behavior(unless he's physical). Then when he chooses to follow the rules, praise him as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong; BC had a much better way of telling it.
06-19-2020 04:37 AM
CeriBear I have a 4 year old who is constantly pushing my buttons with his behavior. Normally I donít let the childrenís actions get to me but this kid is making me go nuts. He can be sweet at times but when something upsets him he acts aggressive either toward himself, another child, or me. Yesterday, he kicked my assistant, slapped at me, kicked a table, and threw a toy at another child. He canít sit still at circle time or stay focused on any activity other than running on the playground. I can handle kids who are stubborn but his aggressiveness worries me. Iíve spoken to his parents and they say when he reacts like this he is given a time out or a privilege taken away but time outs donít work for him at school. He wonít sit quietly and he doesnít seem to learn from them. Nor does taking away a privilege such as being ďline leaderĒ or telling him ďno block area.Ē
06-18-2020 01:22 PM
Ms.Kay
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Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
Hopefully you are too full to take them back...
full....with a waiting list!!!😈😈
06-18-2020 11:49 AM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by Ms.Kay View Post
Parents who were the first to bail...now wanting to come back....Squawking at their "new rate".......priceless!!!!!!!!!
Hopefully you are too full to take them back...
06-18-2020 11:30 AM
Ms.Kay Parents who were the first to bail...now wanting to come back....Squawking at their "new rate".......priceless!!!!!!!!!
06-17-2020 06:00 AM
CountryRoads Passive aggressive comments about my closures.

06-10-2020 02:56 PM
e.j.
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
I'd just hand her a box of gloves and a bottle of hand soap when she enters then tell her to adapt. Of course, mine would expect that from me.
I was thinking along the same lines only I'm stingier and would have handed her one pair of gloves instead of the whole box. lol I wouldn't be too happy about it though. Gloves are still difficult, if not impossible, to find around here. If EEC expects us to figure out how to have enough gloves in supply to use during the day care day, the least they can do is hold their licensors to the same standard if they're going to resume visits.
06-10-2020 01:37 PM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Ugh! My inspector is out of her mind! She sent a letter saying inspections will resume. She will wear a mask but doesn't have gloves so she can't touch our paper work. She needs the providers help by holding up each paper in the kids files and files of anyone living in the home. Ummm no way would that work I have nine kids to keep an eye on. If you can't do inspections as you normally would then maybe you shouldn't be doing them during a pandemic.
I'd just hand her a box of gloves and a bottle of hand soap when she enters then tell her to adapt. Of course, mine would expect that from me.

I was inspected earlier in the week through a two-step virtual and paperwork submission process. I was dreading it but it ended up being quite painless.
06-10-2020 01:09 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
So frustrating when dcps "forget" about my closures. How many times do I need to remind them?!

I always get asked, "what day was it again?" even after sending out 2 reminders and telling them in person.

Had a different dcp forget I was closed one day last week. "Are you closed tomorrow? I just remembered a second ago." Yes, dcm. It was on the summer schedule, the newsletter, the menu, and we discussed it face to face
You do know this (bolded) is why they forget.

Stop reminding and discussing it so much. I wouldn't bother remembering anything if someone else was so quick to remind me or answer when I ask. Why take the time to track info like that if someone else will simply do it for me?

I send everyone a yearly calendar with closed days highlighted. I also list it in the handbook and seasonal newsletters. etc

When a parent asks I reply "The information is listed in several places. If you are unable to locate any of the printed materials I provided let me know and I can print off another calendar for you. I will add the reprint fee to your weekly invoice."

Providing information they can easily figure out on their own is not a service I provide.
06-10-2020 01:04 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Ugh! My inspector is out of her mind! She sent a letter saying inspections will resume. She will wear a mask but doesn't have gloves so she can't touch our paper work. She needs the providers help by holding up each paper in the kids files and files of anyone living in the home. Ummm no way would that work I have nine kids to keep an eye on. If you can't do inspections as you normally would then maybe you shouldn't be doing them during a pandemic.
My licensor basically sent the same notice. I don't see an issue with it and I have 12 kids by myself. (all under under age 6)

I sit at the table with my licensor and talk with her without interruptions from any of the kids, aside from minor things.

Having "visitors" in child care is a great way for the kids to learn about being polite and respectful when adults are talking.
06-10-2020 11:47 AM
Unregistered Ugh! My inspector is out of her mind! She sent a letter saying inspections will resume. She will wear a mask but doesn't have gloves so she can't touch our paper work. She needs the providers help by holding up each paper in the kids files and files of anyone living in the home. Ummm no way would that work I have nine kids to keep an eye on. If you can't do inspections as you normally would then maybe you shouldn't be doing them during a pandemic.
06-10-2020 10:27 AM
CountryRoads So frustrating when dcps "forget" about my closures. How many times do I need to remind them?!

I always get asked, "what day was it again?" even after sending out 2 reminders and telling them in person.

Had a different dcp forget I was closed one day last week. "Are you closed tomorrow? I just remembered a second ago." Yes, dcm. It was on the summer schedule, the newsletter, the menu, and we discussed it face to face
06-10-2020 06:18 AM
284878
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
The child was not cranky or in discomfort at all. If he was, I would have considered letting him drink it.

But, good to know that it may not cause blowouts. However, I still don't think it was appropriate to send him to daycare with it Dcm had several days where she could have given it to him at home, but gave it to him the one day he comes to daycare.
I want to say again that you did the right thing by dumping.

When I gave DD miralax it was at last resort and she was always in discomfort and cranky.
06-10-2020 04:51 AM
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by Former Teacher View Post
At my former center (at the time), it didn't matter if we made it or the parents.

We once had a father who came in and was a Chatty Cathy to everyone esp me

Anyway one day he was talking and talking. He made the comment that when his son was younger (he was still on a bottle LOL) that the previous daycare wouldn't give the son Tylenol for teething so he had to pick up the boy because he would run a fever.

He said "Then I got smart! I would put the Tylenol in the BOTTLE!!!! They never called me after that!" I said "Umm isn't that umm kinda dangerous?" He said "why would it be dangerous? He was happy, they were happy and I was happy!"

Needless to say, whenever he came in with a bottle, it was immediately dumped.
I would have done the same thing, dump the bottle that is. In my state you have to be certified in order to give medicine. It is surprising how many parents do that and then let you know at the end of the day that they did that.
06-09-2020 06:42 PM
Former Teacher At my former center (at the time), it didn't matter if we made it or the parents.

We once had a father who came in and was a Chatty Cathy to everyone esp me

Anyway one day he was talking and talking. He made the comment that when his son was younger (he was still on a bottle LOL) that the previous daycare wouldn't give the son Tylenol for teething so he had to pick up the boy because he would run a fever.

He said "Then I got smart! I would put the Tylenol in the BOTTLE!!!! They never called me after that!" I said "Umm isn't that umm kinda dangerous?" He said "why would it be dangerous? He was happy, they were happy and I was happy!"

Needless to say, whenever he came in with a bottle, it was immediately dumped.
06-09-2020 05:45 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by springvalley112 View Post
Minimum standards here in Alabama doesn't allow us to do this because there was a child that got very sick because a provider put too much formula and not enough water in a bottle and the parents are now required to mix the bottles themselves and to make ever how many for the day that the child requires.
How does that work when child care is required to provide formula per food program rules?
06-09-2020 10:34 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by Snowmom View Post
I truly don't get the Miralax trend.
Someone explain this to me, since it's so common these days.

Why not just try to correct the issue naturally, with diet?
Me, either. I have never given it to my children. I take Benefiber (not Miralax, I was incorrect) to help me with issues relating to peri-menopause . According to a quick search, Miralax can dehydrate small children if you are not careful.

"Miralax is not a fiber-based supplement. The active ingredient is polyethylene glycol, which pulls water into the stool to help relieve constipation. As it is not a fiber supplement, Miralax does not offer the same additional potential benefits as other brands."
06-09-2020 09:32 AM
springvalley112
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Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
I don't allow parents to send bottles with anything in them.

Infant bottles are left here, washed and filled myself with either dry formula that I mix myself or with breast milk stored here frozen.

Old kids have a water bottle that stays here. I wash and fill as needed.

NO food or drink (including water) from home is allowed.

If a parent sent their child with anything in a bottle (water bottle or infant bottle) it would be sent right back to the car with the parent.
Minimum standards here in Alabama doesn't allow us to do this because there was a child that got very sick because a provider put too much formula and not enough water in a bottle and the parents are now required to mix the bottles themselves and to make ever how many for the day that the child requires.
06-09-2020 06:47 AM
Snowmom I truly don't get the Miralax trend.
Someone explain this to me, since it's so common these days.

Why not just try to correct the issue naturally, with diet?
06-09-2020 06:36 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by CeriBear View Post
Two words: Bossy introverts.
Who?

I am thinking "Group Care", "Unrealistic Expectations" and "Parental Responsibility".
06-09-2020 06:12 AM
CeriBear Two words: Bossy introverts.
06-09-2020 06:06 AM
Blackcat31 I don't allow parents to send bottles with anything in them.

Infant bottles are left here, washed and filled myself with either dry formula that I mix myself or with breast milk stored here frozen.

Old kids have a water bottle that stays here. I wash and fill as needed.

NO food or drink (including water) from home is allowed.

If a parent sent their child with anything in a bottle (water bottle or infant bottle) it would be sent right back to the car with the parent.
06-09-2020 05:52 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
The child was not cranky or in discomfort at all. If he was, I would have considered letting him drink it.

But, good to know that it may not cause blowouts. However, I still don't think it was appropriate to send him to daycare with it Dcm had several days where she could have given it to him at home, but gave it to him the one day he comes to daycare.
I require my Miralax families to take it at night, not before drop-off. I promise not to serve stewed prunes and hot chocolate at afternoon snack. It goes both ways. It does cause some cramping in some kids and also makes them feel full for a bit making them less likely to eat well during the morning. I add it to my shakes to keep me fuller between meals.
06-09-2020 05:45 AM
CountryRoads
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Originally Posted by 284878 View Post
Miralax does not cause blow outs, at least not with me or my kids, it is meant to soften the stool so it can exit but it is still firm when it does. But on the other hand, I have a no otc meds allowed in daycare. So I didn't think you were wrong for dumping.

In the end, you either give the child the Miralax/ or tons of fiber so they can poop or you deal with a cranky child in discomfort all day. Your choice.
The child was not cranky or in discomfort at all. If he was, I would have considered letting him drink it.

But, good to know that it may not cause blowouts. However, I still don't think it was appropriate to send him to daycare with it Dcm had several days where she could have given it to him at home, but gave it to him the one day he comes to daycare.
06-09-2020 05:20 AM
284878
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
This child comes 1 day a week - dcm can give him the Miralax at home! Not sure why I should have to deal with the massive blowout!?
Miralax does not cause blow outs, at least not with me or my kids, it is meant to soften the stool so it can exit but it is still firm when it does. But on the other hand, I have a no otc meds allowed in daycare. So I didn't think you were wrong for dumping.

In the end, you either give the child the Miralax/ or tons of fiber so they can poop or you deal with a cranky child in discomfort all day. Your choice.
06-08-2020 02:35 PM
CountryRoads
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Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
Are you asking why would the provider (Country Roads) dump it or why would the parent do that?
That was my thought, too. I took it as her asking me why I dumped it...I should have clarified before I answered!
06-08-2020 02:35 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by springvalley112 View Post
WHY would you do that????? @countryroads
Are you asking why would the provider (Country Roads) dump it or why would the parent do that?
06-08-2020 01:58 PM
CountryRoads
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Originally Posted by springvalley112 View Post
WHY would you do that????? @countryroads
This child comes 1 day a week - dcm can give him the Miralax at home! Not sure why I should have to deal with the massive blowout!?
06-08-2020 01:49 PM
springvalley112 WHY would you do that????? @countryroads
06-08-2020 01:48 PM
Snowmom
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Parents who bring their baby in needing fed and a diaper change right off the bat every day. I wish my center had a policy on that.
Have a changing pad, diapers and wipes right next to the entrance tomorrow (and for about a week).
The child comes in needing a change, they do it right then and there.

But yes, your center DOES need a policy on that. Most do
06-08-2020 05:04 AM
Unregistered Parents who bring their baby in needing fed and a diaper change right off the bat every day. I wish my center had a policy on that.
06-03-2020 06:12 AM
CountryRoads "Dcb hasn't pooped since Friday, so I put Miralax in his water bottle this morning."

I don't think so, dcm. Down the sink it went.
05-28-2020 05:31 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
I hate when I'm told a dck won't be here tomorrow only to be told at pick-up, "What time do you open? I might bring her."

Not a big deal, but I was looking forward to an easier day without my most difficult child. Never fails.
Same.

Mine showed up without warning 3 minutes before cut-off begging for breakfast that ended an hour previously. Parents pulling a bass boat behind their truck with DCM wearing flip-flops and bathing suit cover.
05-27-2020 03:52 PM
CountryRoads I hate when I'm told a dck won't be here tomorrow only to be told at pick-up, "What time do you open? I might bring her."

Not a big deal, but I was looking forward to an easier day without my most difficult child. Never fails.
05-26-2020 08:13 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by CenterTeacher20 View Post
Same here, the two days the sun was out this past week, it'd been so sticky icky humid.

I've slightly woken up, but only because one of our DCM's brought us donuts. Little sugar to start the day.
Nice. We just received a shipment of new books. I tossed out the pillows, blankets and magnifying glasses. Silence for the win.
05-26-2020 08:07 AM
CenterTeacher20
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
Same. I have not seen the sun in seven day. Still raining and dark. Blah.

The DCK's are all in a mood. Three day weekend brings out the drama in them.
Same here, the two days the sun was out this past week, it'd been so sticky icky humid.

I've slightly woken up, but only because one of our DCM's brought us donuts. Little sugar to start the day.
05-26-2020 07:22 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by CenterTeacher20 View Post
Is anyone else just incapable of waking up today? I've been awake since 6am, working since 7:30 and its now 9:10 and I am seriously having a hard time energizing. Coffee isn't even working
Same. I have not seen the sun in seven day. Still raining and dark. Blah.

The DCK's are all in a mood. Three day weekend brings out the drama in them.
05-26-2020 07:11 AM
CenterTeacher20 Is anyone else just incapable of waking up today? I've been awake since 6am, working since 7:30 and its now 9:10 and I am seriously having a hard time energizing. Coffee isn't even working
05-22-2020 01:26 PM
AmyKidsCo
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Originally Posted by littlefriends View Post
Tell her you just don't have time for that and then stop answering. Say it nicely (or text it if you have trouble saying things like that face to face) but once it's said then stick to it. She will either eventually quit trying or find another daycare. If she wants that kind of special she needs a nanny anyway.
Real suggestion: Don't answer. Text her later to say "Sorry I didn't answer but I was changing a diaper." Next time, "...feeding the baby." Then "...dishing up lunch." "Reading story." Eventually she'll get the hint.

Friday afternoon suggestion: When she calls have one of the older ones let out a bloodcurdling scream and yell "Oh my God!" then hang up. Don't answer the rest of the day.
05-22-2020 09:44 AM
littlefriends
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Originally Posted by LovelyK View Post
I have the annoying parent who calls everyday during lunch time to "check in". She asks the same questions every single day yall I voiced how i felt multiple times it's always an excuse to keep calling I gave the option to call later during the day which was great for 1 week then started calling earlier and earlier. I told her I will stop answering and she said naw dont do that. Now she want to talk to the kid I'm so over it !!
Tell her you just don't have time for that and then stop answering. Say it nicely (or text it if you have trouble saying things like that face to face) but once it's said then stick to it. She will either eventually quit trying or find another daycare. If she wants that kind of special she needs a nanny anyway.
05-22-2020 09:20 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by LovelyK View Post
I have the annoying parent who calls everyday during lunch time to "check in". She asks the same questions every single day yall I voiced how i felt multiple times it's always an excuse to keep calling I gave the option to call later during the day which was great for 1 week then started calling earlier and earlier. I told her I will stop answering and she said naw dont do that. Now she want to talk to the kid I'm so over it !!
Next
05-22-2020 09:18 AM
LovelyK I have the annoying parent who calls everyday during lunch time to "check in". She asks the same questions every single day yall I voiced how i felt multiple times it's always an excuse to keep calling I gave the option to call later during the day which was great for 1 week then started calling earlier and earlier. I told her I will stop answering and she said naw dont do that. Now she want to talk to the kid I'm so over it !!
05-21-2020 04:18 PM
CountryRoads I hate having only one child in care! That's the case for me tomorrow. I told dcm that dck would be the only one here tomorrow hoping she would take my hint.

Told me that dck could stay home since the other siblings are home, but nope. Still sending dck. Now I'm bummed knowing that dck COULD stay home, but she'll be here anyway. I COULD have had a paid day off with my kids.

*sigh*

It was worth a shot
05-20-2020 08:03 AM
Former Teacher
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
You guys are more patient than me. "Karen, please stop coaching him to ask for things he already knows he can't have. You are making us both uncomfortable and taking up valuable time. We have a routine here. If you want him to play with the train set, you can let him play with his own at home after daycare."
Exactly! I once had a preschooler (!!!) who was always difficult when he was dropped off. Thankfully we were outside usually at that time so it was easy. One time, she was late dropping him off and we were in the classroom. So (my assistant was in the room) he started running down the hall chasing her as she was walking away. I ran and grabbed him and she told him goodbye again. I started walking away and he was crying holding out his arms. I was telling him the fun stuff we had planned etc.

She was FOLLOWING ME!!! Then she was telling him to be a good boy etc. I was LIVID!

The next day, again we were in the classroom..she said "it's okay Snowflake...Ms X will hold you (he's a freaking PRESCHOOLER!!!) while Mommy goes to work". NOT AGAIN! I said right to her face "No I am sorry I can't. It will just upset him more once he knows you will follow him. Please just say all your goodbyes now. Snowflake, when Mommy leaves for work, please come and join me and Snowflake 2 (his BFF) at the cars and we can build a ramp for jumpoffs." Then I walked away. He followed me immediately. She didn't do that BS again
05-20-2020 06:53 AM
littlefriends
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Originally Posted by Josiegirl View Post
Hey, Sweetums, I bet Momma will stop at McDonald's on the way home!
Hey, honeybunches, just ask mommy to stop at the park when you leave dc today!

You get the idea.....
OH. MY. GOD. Yes!!!!
05-19-2020 03:58 PM
Josiegirl
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
Why do parents do this at drop-off?

"Miss X will get you a blanket."

"Just ask Miss X and she'll go get you a stuffed animal."

"You're gonna go outside in just a few minutes." (Not true)

"I bet if you ask, Miss X will get out the train set for you."

"Don't worry, I bet Miss X will hold you."

No, I will not be doing any of these things! I know they only do it when their child is being difficult at drop-off, but still!
Drives me bonkers!!
Hey, Sweetums, I bet Momma will stop at McDonald's on the way home!
Hey, honeybunches, just ask mommy to stop at the park when you leave dc today!

You get the idea.....
05-19-2020 12:37 PM
Cat Herder You guys are more patient than me. "Karen, please stop coaching him to ask for things he already knows he can't have. You are making us both uncomfortable and taking up valuable time. We have a routine here. If you want him to play with the train set, you can let him play with his own at home after daycare."
05-19-2020 10:41 AM
littlefriends
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
Why do parents do this at drop-off?

"Miss X will get you a blanket."

"Just ask Miss X and she'll go get you a stuffed animal."

"You're gonna go outside in just a few minutes." (Not true)

"I bet if you ask, Miss X will get out the train set for you."

"Don't worry, I bet Miss X will hold you."

No, I will not be doing any of these things! I know they only do it when their child is being difficult at drop-off, but still!
Drives me bonkers!!
Yes!!! So annoying! Just wanting to make it easiest for themselves so they can get out of there without a fuss from kiddo. I had one that was coming alone for a bit during the stay at home and his dad every time at dropping off time "OOOO Petey, You get Miss X all to yourself again today!! You could ask her to do anything you want! What do you want Miss X to do with you today?"
05-19-2020 10:12 AM
CountryRoads Why do parents do this at drop-off?

"Miss X will get you a blanket."

"Just ask Miss X and she'll go get you a stuffed animal."

"You're gonna go outside in just a few minutes." (Not true)

"I bet if you ask, Miss X will get out the train set for you."

"Don't worry, I bet Miss X will hold you."

No, I will not be doing any of these things! I know they only do it when their child is being difficult at drop-off, but still!
Drives me bonkers!!
05-18-2020 12:09 PM
Unregistered Theee day weekend coming up and I actually had someone ask if we will be closed Monday! Yes it's a holiday we are closed. Try reading your parent handbook it's in there so you won't have to ask me. 😑
05-15-2020 10:24 AM
CountryRoads
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
I just change them into play clothes and change them back during the last diaper change. After seeing their kids in spare clothing all the time in photos, they finally catch on.

I can't let them mess with my day and I am tired of policing adults.
That's a good idea!

Dcm knows it's inconvenient, too! She told me as she dropped off, "sorry, I know these aren't practical for potty time."

Thanks for sending her in them anyway
05-15-2020 09:52 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
Can rompers be banned at daycare, please?!
I just change them into play clothes and change them back during the last diaper change. After seeing their kids in spare clothing all the time in photos, they finally catch on.

I can't let them mess with my day and I am tired of policing adults.
05-15-2020 08:05 AM
littlefriends
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
Can rompers be banned at daycare, please?!
I have that exact thing in my contract! Kiddos need to be dressed in clothes that support independent pottying habits.
05-14-2020 08:48 AM
CenterTeacher20
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
Can rompers be banned at daycare, please?!
AND overalls?!
05-14-2020 08:00 AM
CountryRoads Can rompers be banned at daycare, please?!
05-12-2020 12:54 PM
AmyKidsCo
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Originally Posted by littlefriends View Post
I never, ever, NEVER answer phone calls from families outside of daycare hours. If they leave a message that sounds like I truly need to answer I might call back but even then I usually would text the answer. No way in hecccc am I getting stuck on the phone on my downtime with a daycare parent!!
Agreed! I figure that KinderCare isn't answering the phones during off hours, and parents don't have staff members' numbers to contact them at home, so in this one way I'm going to do what KinderCare does.
05-12-2020 06:29 AM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by CountryRoads View Post
Was refreshed after having several weeks off. Was looking forward to getting back to work!

First day open and I had a few complaints and comments.

Was really hoping after not having care for almost 2 months, my families would appreciate me a little more. Yeah right!

Parents. AAGGHH!
people are so self-centered.
05-12-2020 06:23 AM
CountryRoads Was refreshed after having several weeks off. Was looking forward to getting back to work!

First day open and I had a few complaints and comments.

Was really hoping after not having care for almost 2 months, my families would appreciate me a little more. Yeah right!

Parents. AAGGHH!
05-11-2020 01:19 PM
littlefriends
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Originally Posted by Msdunny View Post
I had a mom facetime call me yesterday because her 2 year old wouldn't get dressed and she wanted me to tell her to put her clothes on. Really?!?! I did talk to her and she was dressed by the end of the call, so I guess mom got what she wanted...
I never, ever, NEVER answer phone calls from families outside of daycare hours. If they leave a message that sounds like I truly need to answer I might call back but even then I usually would text the answer. No way in hecccc am I getting stuck on the phone on my downtime with a daycare parent!!
05-08-2020 07:29 AM
Former Teacher
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Originally Posted by CenterTeacher20 View Post
My mind is just not in it this week. I'm sick of distance-learning and school agers.

Two more weeks of this.
You and me both!

I am a nanny to twin 8 year olds. They are in 2nd grade.

When this all went down, the school said that at most you are looking 2-3 hours TOPS. That was a bunch of BS. We would start at 9 (if not earlier) and if we were lucky be done by 4:30!!! That's only with a 3-30 min breaks! And these are 2nd graders!!

Thankfully enough people complained and finally they lessened within the past few weeks but still. It was/is stressful.

I am in countdown as well!!
05-07-2020 10:18 AM
CenterTeacher20 My mind is just not in it this week. I'm sick of distance-learning and school agers.

Two more weeks of this.
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