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01-09-2021 05:45 PM
flying_babyb Kinda changing my mind on my stance on the vaccine! We had a parent come up positive at which point, health dept. said we could stay open, IF the parent got the kids tested. Yep! DCB whos in my room is positive. Another 2 week paid vacation.
01-07-2021 08:06 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
He is improving everyday. They took him off ventilator the day after Christmas. So, moving in a positive direction. He has a lot of underlying health problems, so this is a blessing.
Any updates for your FIL?
Praying for positive outcome
12-30-2020 07:50 PM
e.j.
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Originally Posted by dolores View Post
I happen to work at a hospital and have been getting reminders to schedule my covid vaccination which I've been ignoring as it is not mandatory.
Many of my colleagues ie those who work in the ED, ICU and areas with high exposure already got the vaccine. While I'm not patient-facing like they are, I am in contact with those who are. However, I remain hesitant for all reasons mentioned already.
They say the vaccine would not prevent contracting the virus. It would just minimize symptoms and death. What I've been doing thus far has been working so I will continue on that course for now.
As far as who it is being made available to and how it is being rolled out/prioritized is a whole other political discussion though.
Not trying to change your mind or anyone else's; just respectfully putting my 2 cents in in response to what you wrote. Feel free to ignore what I have to say.

I'm concerned about possible side effects from the vaccine(s) but my concerns aren't enough to keep me from getting it once it's available to me. The fact that the vaccine will "minimize symptoms and death" is exactly why I will get it. The vaccine, as I understand it, offers a 95% protection rate once you've had both shots. While that leaves a 5% chance of contracting the virus, I like the odds the vaccine offers: a 95% chance that I won't get and possibly die from the virus, especially since medical experts say it should cover the mutant strains we've been hearing about lately that are said to be even more contagious than the strain that we've been dealing with up til now. I'll still have to wear a mask, wash my hands and continue to distance myself because, while the vaccine may prevent me from getting sick or dying, it may not prevent me from passing the virus on to someone else. I also know this virus will continue to sicken and kill people until we have enough herd immunity built up and I want to try to do my part to protect other people who aren't able to get the vaccine.
12-30-2020 02:16 PM
dolores I happen to work at a hospital and have been getting reminders to schedule my covid vaccination which I've been ignoring as it is not mandatory.
Many of my colleagues ie those who work in the ED, ICU and areas with high exposure already got the vaccine. While I'm not patient-facing like they are, I am in contact with those who are. However, I remain hesitant for all reasons mentioned already.
They say the vaccine would not prevent contracting the virus. It would just minimize symptoms and death. What I've been doing thus far has been working so I will continue on that course for now.
As far as who it is being made available to and how it is being rolled out/prioritized is a whole other political discussion though.
12-28-2020 08:05 AM
Annalee
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Originally Posted by Josiegirl View Post
Live and die by your immune system? Let's hope it stays strong and doesn't disappoint you one day.

Annalee, I've always been lucky in that I've never been terribly sick(unless you count mono when I was 18). I usually catch 1 cold a year and a few years ago I caught a funky virus that knocked me out for a week. I think I've skipped 2 flu shots since I started taking them regularly which was maybe 20 years ago. I was around my elderly parents a lot and did NOT want to inadvertently expose them to anything.
With that said, I am 95% sure that I will be taking this vaccine when it comes to my turn, as long as it's proven to be safe by then. I did have Covid around Thanksgiving time and thankfully sailed through it. BUT seeing the staggering numbers of deaths and long term illnesses from Covid I don't want to take any chances of contracting it, getting it bad, or(and this is just as much of a consideration as anything)keep the spread going. Covid will only lessen if we all take the precautions needed.
IMO enough is enough. People want/need a better economy, they want to go to restaurants/bars/gyms/malls/travel/get together with others and if any vaccine shows a promise of curbing the spread, a.k.a making that all happen again, then I'm in!
With all that said, I could see why some are hesitant, such as my sister. She has many health issues revolving around immune deficiencies and has shown terrible reactions to the typical flu vaccines.
I guess you have to ask yourself what your fears are, how healthy you are, and what kinds of things/from whom have you heard?
JMO And I know everybody feels differently so you have to do what's best for you and your family. Curious, if your dh was offered the vaccine today, would he take it?
DH would say yes.....he says "take the vaccine" every time I talk about it. He just wont be allowed to take it as soon as I will, if I choose to take it.
12-28-2020 07:51 AM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Josiegirl View Post
How is your FIL doing? Sending prayers and good thoughts to you.
He is improving everyday. They took him off ventilator the day after Christmas. So, moving in a positive direction. He has a lot of underlying health problems, so this is a blessing.
12-28-2020 03:34 AM
Josiegirl Live and die by your immune system? Let's hope it stays strong and doesn't disappoint you one day.

Annalee, I've always been lucky in that I've never been terribly sick(unless you count mono when I was 18). I usually catch 1 cold a year and a few years ago I caught a funky virus that knocked me out for a week. I think I've skipped 2 flu shots since I started taking them regularly which was maybe 20 years ago. I was around my elderly parents a lot and did NOT want to inadvertently expose them to anything.
With that said, I am 95% sure that I will be taking this vaccine when it comes to my turn, as long as it's proven to be safe by then. I did have Covid around Thanksgiving time and thankfully sailed through it. BUT seeing the staggering numbers of deaths and long term illnesses from Covid I don't want to take any chances of contracting it, getting it bad, or(and this is just as much of a consideration as anything)keep the spread going. Covid will only lessen if we all take the precautions needed.
IMO enough is enough. People want/need a better economy, they want to go to restaurants/bars/gyms/malls/travel/get together with others and if any vaccine shows a promise of curbing the spread, a.k.a making that all happen again, then I'm in!
With all that said, I could see why some are hesitant, such as my sister. She has many health issues revolving around immune deficiencies and has shown terrible reactions to the typical flu vaccines.
I guess you have to ask yourself what your fears are, how healthy you are, and what kinds of things/from whom have you heard?
JMO And I know everybody feels differently so you have to do what's best for you and your family. Curious, if your dh was offered the vaccine today, would he take it?
12-28-2020 03:18 AM
Josiegirl
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
Honestly BC, I am so scared that my fil is not going to pull through. My sincere apologies for all the kind folks on here that I have rubbed the wrong way. Not my intention at all. I could use some good vibes right now. I am so over this
How is your FIL doing? Sending prayers and good thoughts to you.
12-27-2020 07:18 PM
Annalee
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Originally Posted by Michael View Post
I have a higher chance of getting the flu but do not get a yearly flu vaccine. The same holds true for me for COVID. Iíll live or die by my immune system. Mind you, if this was an Ebola pandemic, I would be the first in line for a vaccine.
From that standpoint, I have only taken a flu shot three times my entire life and I'm 54....once due to my nephew having a bone marrow transplant and the doctors at that time required us to (14 years ago), when my grandma was sick last year and this year as they said it would help with covid? I am weighing all information! Thanks for your input!
12-27-2020 07:01 PM
Michael I have a higher chance of getting the flu but do not get a yearly flu vaccine. The same holds true for me for COVID. I’ll live or die by my immune system. Mind you, if this was an Ebola pandemic, I would be the first in line for a vaccine.
12-27-2020 06:40 PM
Annalee Back to original Covid Vaccine question? Not a debate; I am taking in all info as I have to make a decision in next 2-4 weeks whether I choose to be vaccinated or not?

I asked some nurses, male and female, today about the vaccine. It was a 50/50 when it come to the choice of receiving the vaccine. The ones whom have taken the vaccine did so because they have NOT had covid yet. The ones that chose not to take the vaccine have had covid already. Their reasoning being....the vaccine produces antibodies within a person's body so if they have had covid, then they have antibodies already therefore refusing?

What do y'all think? Just asking as I need to make my own decision within next 2-4 weeks?

ETA: my nieces-in-law work at a large hospital and were give a choice but the choice being "you take the shot if you are going to work here". Neither have had covid.

The others I asked work at smaller hospitals/locally.
12-25-2020 12:19 PM
MyAngels
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
Honestly BC, I am so scared that my fil is not going to pull through. My sincere apologies for all the kind folks on here that I have rubbed the wrong way. Not my intention at all. I could use some good vibes right now. I am so over this
I'm really sorry that you're going through this, and I'll keep you and your family in my thoughts. I've had a couple of more older family members diagnosed in the past week so I understand what you're going through.

FWIW I haven't taken anything you've posted to be anything more than what it was most likely intended to be, your opinion. Some folks are just moodier these days I guess, and so I try to keep that in mind.
12-24-2020 08:30 AM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
Honestly BC, I am so scared that my fil is not going to pull through. My sincere apologies for all the kind folks on here that I have rubbed the wrong way. Not my intention at all. I could use some good vibes right now. I am so over this
Iíll be praying for your FIL and your family
This is hard and it sucks.
When it hits close to home, itís terrorizing.

We are all in this together and while we (in general) may not always agree, we all want to stop being afraid and to be able to live without fear.

I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and I hope your FIL continues to fight and pulls through this!

12-24-2020 07:55 AM
VictoryCare
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
Honestly BC, I am so scared that my fil is not going to pull through. My sincere apologies for all the kind folks on here that I have rubbed the wrong way. Not my intention at all. I could use some good vibes right now. I am so over this
You and your family are in my prayers, and that's a fact...😊
12-24-2020 07:48 AM
VictoryCare Smh...smh
12-24-2020 03:26 AM
Josiegirl
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
Honestly BC, I am so scared that my fil is not going to pull through. My sincere apologies for all the kind folks on here that I have rubbed the wrong way. Not my intention at all. I could use some good vibes right now. I am so over this
Your emotions are all over the place and with good reason. I'll keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers. Stay strong, keep your prayers going if you're so inclined and keep taking the best care of yourself that you can. It's all you can do. Some things are out of our control and it's got to be a heart-breaking waiting game.
We all want this demon gone now. Some of us are unlucky in watching our loved ones get sick and worse, or we've experienced being very sick possibly with long term consequences. Then some of us don't even know anyone who's contracted it personally.
I just hope most people take it serious enough to work with everyone else to promote a faster healing in this country, and around the world. It's up to each and every one of us to do the right thing. I don't remember an instance that's made me think that yes, one person does make a difference. In a good way and bad. We might be the saving grace to our elderly neighbor/family member/sick person who cannot get to the store. Or we might be the super spreader unknowingly carrying a virus into a crowd. Which do we want to be?
Much love to everyone here and hope for a better year for everyone.
12-23-2020 10:59 PM
Michael
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
I could use some good vibes right now. I am so over this
music usually lifts me up. Good Vibrations The Beach Boys
12-23-2020 10:38 PM
e.j.
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
Honestly BC, I am so scared that my fil is not going to pull through. My sincere apologies for all the kind folks on here that I have rubbed the wrong way. Not my intention at all. I could use some good vibes right now. I am so over this
I'm so sorry you're going through this, Valerie. I hope your fil pulls through and suffers no long term side effects. I'll keep you and your family in my prayers.
12-23-2020 10:16 PM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
Iím sorry to hear about your FIL.
I sincerely hope he recovers.

There are many that are unsure or scared etc of the vaccine (for many reasons) and if you truly believe this pandemic will be curbed/slowed if ďpeopleĒ get this vaccine then you have to give a ratís ass. If not itís kind of hypocritical.

What I hear is, you want me to get the vaccine to benefit you (in general) but yet you donít care about me (whether Iím offended etc or not).

My natural response is to say forget it. If I am not personally worried about COVID then why would I bother to get vaccinated just to help those that donít care about me?

Hopefully that makes sense.

I understand how awful this pandemic is.
My family is at risk just as much as anyone elseís
My DD works on the front line
My husband is a Type 1 diabetic

I believe in vaccines but I am still apprehensive and I know I am not alone.
Honestly BC, I am so scared that my fil is not going to pull through. My sincere apologies for all the kind folks on here that I have rubbed the wrong way. Not my intention at all. I could use some good vibes right now. I am so over this
12-23-2020 09:48 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
Ya, you're frigin hilarious

Now who is bullying? My father in law has covid and is in hospital fighting for his life. My stance on the vaccine stands. I don't give a rats ass if that offends. If my fil could have gotten one he sure would have. In fact, he was very much looking forward to it. Probably would be better off than he is now.
Iím sorry to hear about your FIL.
I sincerely hope he recovers.

There are many that are unsure or scared etc of the vaccine (for many reasons) and if you truly believe this pandemic will be curbed/slowed if ďpeopleĒ get this vaccine then you have to give a ratís ass. If not itís kind of hypocritical.

What I hear is, you want me to get the vaccine to benefit you (in general) but yet you donít care about me (whether Iím offended etc or not).

My natural response is to say forget it. If I am not personally worried about COVID then why would I bother to get vaccinated just to help those that donít care about me?

Hopefully that makes sense.

I understand how awful this pandemic is.
My family is at risk just as much as anyone elseís
My DD works on the front line
My husband is a Type 1 diabetic

I believe in vaccines but I am still apprehensive and I know I am not alone.
12-23-2020 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
Also, I really don't care whether people take this vaccine or not.
post #213

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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
It's not insane
People need to take this vaccine so we can get on with our lives. People not taking it are going to slow this down.
post # 221

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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
I am stating facts whether people choose to believe it or not is not of my concern. I apologize but it is what it is.

I am confused because you first say that you do not care if people get the vaccine or not but then you say that people need to take it.

If you really do not care then why post "facts" that favor getting the vaccine?
12-23-2020 02:26 PM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Annalee View Post
I think this dead horse has 9 lives
Ya, you're frigin hilarious

Now who is bullying? My father in law has covid and is in hospital fighting for his life. My stance on the vaccine stands. I don't give a rats ass if that offends. If my fil could have gotten one he sure would have. In fact, he was very much looking forward to it. Probably would be better off than he is now.
12-23-2020 02:17 PM
Annalee
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
Not this dead horse, again.

Bully, then accuse others of bullying when served a dose.

It is exhausting, that is what it is.

In my opinion, of course.
I think this dead horse has 9 lives
12-23-2020 01:44 PM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
You are stating what YOU believe to be factual.
Doesnít mean others believe the same.
Thatís my point.

Personally for me, the message is easier to digest when discussed verses thrown at me.
Ok, cool
12-23-2020 01:43 PM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
Not this dead horse, again.

Bully, then accuse others of bullying when served a dose.

It is exhausting, that is what it is.

In my opinion, of course.
Holy hell, I am not "bullying" I give up
12-23-2020 01:20 PM
Cat Herder Not this dead horse, again.

Bully, then accuse others of bullying when served a dose.

It is exhausting, that is what it is.

In my opinion, of course.
12-23-2020 12:48 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
I am stating facts whether people choose to believe it or not is not of my concern. I apologize but it is what it is.
You are stating what YOU believe to be factual.
Doesnít mean others believe the same.
Thatís my point.

Personally for me, the message is easier to digest when discussed verses thrown at me.
12-23-2020 12:25 PM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
This is how Iím feeling too....
ETA I do require regular state required childhood immunizations.
I donít require the flu shot although I did this year.




I understand and respect your beliefs and your right to express it as well; but this comes across as if others are wrong in their beliefs and comes across as kinda antagonistic.
I am stating facts whether people choose to believe it or not is not of my concern. I apologize but it is what it is.
12-23-2020 08:28 AM
Josiegirl
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Originally Posted by VictoryCare View Post
I agree
It's the same thing with not following any of the Covid guidances; if you possibly can you should wear a mask/social distance/skip the big gatherings this year/stay home/get the vaccine. I feel it all ties in together. These are the things that will help us all get back to better, safer and easier lives. As far as the vaccine, I will get it when it becomes available because by then, it will have been through many other people; risk assessment, symptoms, effectiveness, there will be that much more knowledge in place. Hopefully, enough people will choose to be vaccinated to make a difference.
12-23-2020 04:48 AM
VictoryCare
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
It's not insane
People need to take this vaccine so we can get on with our lives. People not taking it are going to slow this down.
I agree
12-22-2020 07:50 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by Snowmom View Post
Soooo... getting back to the OP.
Yes, I will get the vaccine when available.

The benefits outweigh the risks for me.
Has your county notified you that weíre considered critical workers and that we are suppose to be receiving the vaccine sooner vs later than others?
12-22-2020 07:49 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by BumbleBee View Post
Personally I will be getting the vaccine when I am eligible to do so. I will not require daycare children, staff, etc to be vaccinated. I have never required any vaccines for staff or children in care. I feel it is a personal choice for each person and family. I will do what I feel is best for me and others will do what they feel is best for them, their families and their children.
This is how I’m feeling too....
ETA I do require regular state required childhood immunizations.
I don’t require the flu shot although I did this year.

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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
It's not insane
People need to take this vaccine so we can get on with our lives. People not taking it are going to slow this down.
I understand and respect your beliefs and your right to express it as well; but this comes across as if others are wrong in their beliefs and comes across as kinda antagonistic.
12-22-2020 07:44 PM
Snowmom Soooo... getting back to the OP.
Yes, I will get the vaccine when available.

The benefits outweigh the risks for me.
12-22-2020 05:26 PM
BumbleBee Personally I will be getting the vaccine when I am eligible to do so. I will not require daycare children, staff, etc to be vaccinated. I have never required any vaccines for staff or children in care. I feel it is a personal choice for each person and family. I will do what I feel is best for me and others will do what they feel is best for them, their families and their children.
12-22-2020 02:58 PM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Annalee View Post
Does anyone else find it odd the vaccine came out right before the news about the new virus now in another country gets here!
This virus has been mutating since September. The vaccines target the spike protein that encapsulates the virus.
12-22-2020 02:54 PM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Michael View Post
I live in California, north of LA and I travel to the city every week. This is supposed to be a high risk area/state. I have sanitized for the last 4 months like I normally did before this pandemic. I'm not trying to minimize the risk of COVID but I barely know anyone that has had it.

A few weeks ago I starting getting a weird sickness and so did my wife. It was different than the other change of season illness. I though--well this could be COVID. I was somewhat hoping it was (I know that sounds insane). I am just not worried about it but my wife and I decided to get the COVID test anyways and it came back negative for both of us.

I just can't see getting a vaccine for something that may kill 4 out of a 1000 people. Just living, seems riskier. I hear there may be mandatory vaccinations in order for some people to go back to work. That likewise sounds insane.
It's not insane
People need to take this vaccine so we can get on with our lives. People not taking it are going to slow this down.
12-22-2020 10:03 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by Annalee View Post
Does anyone else find it odd the vaccine came out right before the news about the new virus now in another country gets here!
Nope. Not at all.

Seems to follow history.

Like all the other times..... The US seems to be unoriginal in every way.
12-22-2020 09:53 AM
Annalee Does anyone else find it odd the vaccine came out right before the news about the new virus now in another country gets here!
12-22-2020 09:10 AM
MyAngels
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Originally Posted by Annalee View Post
Tennessee started with little to no cases. My sis in law was number 17 in April/May when she got it. Fast forward to today and my state is Number One in cases of Covid. There was a surge here after Thanksgiving and are expecting a surge after Christmas. I am not SCARED of covid but it sure has impacted my daycare business with quarantine-closings and I haven't had it yet. Mom and I work the daycare and have not even had a symptom, but we know of multiple family members, friends, etc. that have had it. My brother says 'even if the vaccine is sugar-water, take it, at least it will satisfy the government'. Seriously, though, if the quarantine guidelines were to be lifted, I would be much less worried about it...but I have closed 8 weeks thus far. The quarantines time-limits have lessened but they are still bad enough to affect my business. And I pray my business is intact when all this is over. I have been down three kids since September and have filled two of those spots the past couple weeks. Bottom line is, clients are leery of the closings, too, and not all daycares follow protocol for covid. So, it is a stressful mess for me!
This is how I'm feeling, too. I'll take the vaccine so that maybe we can get back to a place where we're not forced to close and quarantine every time someone in the vicinity has a symptom.

I don't care about getting Covid. I wish I had gotten it when my DH did. Our state seems to be getting a little more control of late, but I personally know 4 people now who have died from Covid in the past couple of weeks, so I'm not downplaying it.

I've got openings that I can't fill because literally everyone here is either working from home with "understanding" bosses (i.e. they are using their kids as an excuse to basically get paid for little work ) or unemployed. I too hope that my business survives intact.
12-22-2020 05:46 AM
Annalee
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Originally Posted by Michael View Post
I live in California, north of LA and I travel to the city every week. This is supposed to be a high risk area/state. I have sanitized for the last 4 months like I normally did before this pandemic. I'm not trying to minimize the risk of COVID but I barely know anyone that has had it.

A few weeks ago I starting getting a weird sickness and so did my wife. It was different than the other change of season illness. I though--well this could be COVID. I was somewhat hoping it was (I know that sounds insane). I am just not worried about it but my wife and I decided to get the COVID test anyways and it came back negative for both of us.

I just can't see getting a vaccine for something that may kill 4 out of a 1000 people. Just living, seems riskier. I hear there may be mandatory vaccinations in order for some people to go back to work. That likewise sounds insane.
Tennessee started with little to no cases. My sis in law was number 17 in April/May when she got it. Fast forward to today and my state is Number One in cases of Covid. There was a surge here after Thanksgiving and are expecting a surge after Christmas. I am not SCARED of covid but it sure has impacted my daycare business with quarantine-closings and I haven't had it yet. Mom and I work the daycare and have not even had a symptom, but we know of multiple family members, friends, etc. that have had it. My brother says 'even if the vaccine is sugar-water, take it, at least it will satisfy the government'. Seriously, though, if the quarantine guidelines were to be lifted, I would be much less worried about it...but I have closed 8 weeks thus far. The quarantines time-limits have lessened but they are still bad enough to affect my business. And I pray my business is intact when all this is over. I have been down three kids since September and have filled two of those spots the past couple weeks. Bottom line is, clients are leery of the closings, too, and not all daycares follow protocol for covid. So, it is a stressful mess for me!
12-21-2020 11:24 PM
Michael
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Originally Posted by KarlieBo3 View Post
Nearly all my relatives who work in education/health have already gotten it - luckily no major long term issues. I have been lucky so far but exponential growth is doing it's thing and I hope I can get the vaccine soon. I now hear talk of a new Covid strain that might not be covered by the new vaccine and I'm feeling pretty bad about it.
I live in California, north of LA and I travel to the city every week. This is supposed to be a high risk area/state. I have sanitized for the last 4 months like I normally did before this pandemic. I'm not trying to minimize the risk of COVID but I barely know anyone that has had it.

A few weeks ago I starting getting a weird sickness and so did my wife. It was different than the other change of season illness. I though--well this could be COVID. I was somewhat hoping it was (I know that sounds insane). I am just not worried about it but my wife and I decided to get the COVID test anyways and it came back negative for both of us.

I just can't see getting a vaccine for something that may kill 4 out of a 1000 people. Just living, seems riskier. I hear there may be mandatory vaccinations in order for some people to go back to work. That likewise sounds insane.
12-21-2020 09:17 PM
KarlieBo3 Nearly all my relatives who work in education/health have already gotten it - luckily no major long term issues. I have been lucky so far but exponential growth is doing it's thing and I hope I can get the vaccine soon. I now hear talk of a new Covid strain that might not be covered by the new vaccine and I'm feeling pretty bad about it.
12-21-2020 04:15 PM
Annalee
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Originally Posted by e.j. View Post
I could be wrong but I think it may have something to do with the fact that the vaccine is supposed to keep you from getting sick but they're not sure yet if it will keep vaccinated people from carrying or passing the virus on to other people. For that same reason, we're supposed to stick with all of the current Covid protocols. It probably won't be until more people are vaccinated and more data is collected that they determine whether or not protocols like quarantining are still necessary. I'm looking at vaccines as a step forward toward normalcy but we won't get there right away.
You may be right. My brother is more concerned about the vaccine not being effective due to the quick turnaround for approval, but ??
12-21-2020 03:58 PM
e.j.
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Originally Posted by Annalee View Post
Got the memo today; we are on the list with the teachers to be able to get the covid vaccine....licensing told me to get my pros and cons together and decide if I will take it. Could be up to four weeks before it gets to us?????

I asked if the vaccine would keep me from quarantining and she said she thought the cdc/state government would have to change that....so no to the getting out of quarantine as of now so??? I wonder how much longer the cdc will have the quarantines?
I could be wrong but I think it may have something to do with the fact that the vaccine is supposed to keep you from getting sick but they're not sure yet if it will keep vaccinated people from carrying or passing the virus on to other people. For that same reason, we're supposed to stick with all of the current Covid protocols. It probably won't be until more people are vaccinated and more data is collected that they determine whether or not protocols like quarantining are still necessary. I'm looking at vaccines as a step forward toward normalcy but we won't get there right away.
12-21-2020 01:12 PM
Annalee Got the memo today; we are on the list with the teachers to be able to get the covid vaccine....licensing told me to get my pros and cons together and decide if I will take it. Could be up to four weeks before it gets to us?????

I asked if the vaccine would keep me from quarantining and she said she thought the cdc/state government would have to change that....so no to the getting out of quarantine as of now so??? I wonder how much longer the cdc will have the quarantines?
12-18-2020 10:24 AM
e.j.
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Oh my yes! You would not believe the number of times she's called me in tears because of a horrible situation. The worst was one where she and another nurse basically held a patient until they passed (and not peacefully).

She is a very kind and loving person with a HUGE heart and sometimes I think nursing is not for her but she loves what she does. I suppose when you think about it, there isn't really any job that is all fun and rainbows all the time.
True but her job has to be one of the toughest, especially under the current circumstances. I don't know how nurses, doctors, ambulance personnel and other medical workers do their jobs and manage to hold on to their sanity never mind their kind, caring hearts. They are true heroes in my mind.
12-18-2020 08:37 AM
CenterTeacher20
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She is anxious about vaccines so she called work this morning and asked if she could come in before her shift instead of after. They said yes, so she got it already this morning! So relieved!






Oh my yes! You would not believe the number of times she's called me in tears because of a horrible situation. The worst was one where she and another nurse basically held a patient until they passed (and not peacefully).

She is a very kind and loving person with a HUGE heart and sometimes I think nursing is not for her but she loves what she does. I suppose when you think about it, there isn't really any job that is all fun and rainbows all the time.
And repping Essentia Health! Wooo! Love to see it!
12-18-2020 08:28 AM
Josiegirl Cannot begin to imagine.
Between fear, fatigue and frustration....may people such as your dd, Blackcat, be Blessed 10x over. Sounds like you guys did an amazing job as parents.
12-18-2020 07:39 AM
Blackcat31 She is anxious about vaccines so she called work this morning and asked if she could come in before her shift instead of after. They said yes, so she got it already this morning! So relieved!




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Wonderful! Good luck to her!
Thank you to her for working in such a selfless and currently dangerous profession. It must be heart-breaking at times.
Oh my yes! You would not believe the number of times she's called me in tears because of a horrible situation. The worst was one where she and another nurse basically held a patient until they passed (and not peacefully).

She is a very kind and loving person with a HUGE heart and sometimes I think nursing is not for her but she loves what she does. I suppose when you think about it, there isn't really any job that is all fun and rainbows all the time.
12-18-2020 03:39 AM
Josiegirl
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Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
Just found out my daughter is scheduled to get the vaccine tomorrow at 2:45.
Makes me feel a bit better since she works on the COVID floor at a big hospital.
Wonderful! Good luck to her!
Thank you to her for working in such a selfless and currently dangerous profession. It must be heart-breaking at times.
12-17-2020 08:09 PM
Annalee
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Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
Just found out my daughter is scheduled to get the vaccine tomorrow at 2:45.
Makes me feel a bit better since she works on the COVID floor at a big hospital.
12-17-2020 06:43 PM
Valerie928
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Just found out my daughter is scheduled to get the vaccine tomorrow at 2:45.
Makes me feel a bit better since she works on the COVID floor at a big hospital.
I am very happy to hear your daughter is getting the vaccine! My cousin, who works at our local Children's hospital got her vaccine yesterday! I know I will get hate for this but please, everyone! Take this vaccine! Read from the actual manufacturer to learn about mRNA.
12-17-2020 06:40 PM
e.j.
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Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
Just found out my daughter is scheduled to get the vaccine tomorrow at 2:45.
Makes me feel a bit better since she works on the COVID floor at a big hospital.
That's got to be a huge relief for you - and even more so when she gets the second shot!
12-17-2020 06:10 PM
Blackcat31 Just found out my daughter is scheduled to get the vaccine tomorrow at 2:45.
Makes me feel a bit better since she works on the COVID floor at a big hospital.
12-15-2020 05:01 PM
Ariana
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I was just notified by my licensor that my state considers child care providers "front line" or critical workers and are counted in those that want the vaccine first. My licensor was asked to e-mail us and ask how many of us want to get vaccinated.
That is so great!!
12-14-2020 09:50 PM
Michael
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I dunno.... Iím so on the fence
But DH is a Type 1 diabetic so he definitely wants to get it.

I just canít decide
Since it doesnít sound like youíre adamantly against it, I think you should err on the side of caution.
12-14-2020 06:29 PM
Blackcat31
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Originally Posted by Annalee View Post
Wow, what you going to do? Take it or not take it? I haven't heard anything from licensing about it here!
I dunno.... Iím so on the fence
But DH is a Type 1 diabetic so he definitely wants to get it.

I just canít decide
12-14-2020 04:28 PM
Annalee
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Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
I was just notified by my licensor that my state considers child care providers "front line" or critical workers and are counted in those that want the vaccine first. My licensor was asked to e-mail us and ask how many of us want to get vaccinated.
Wow, what you going to do? Take it or not take it? I haven't heard anything from licensing about it here!
12-14-2020 02:10 PM
Blackcat31 I was just notified by my licensor that my state considers child care providers "front line" or critical workers and are counted in those that want the vaccine first. My licensor was asked to e-mail us and ask how many of us want to get vaccinated.
12-13-2020 06:04 PM
Ariana I am really happy itís an mRNA vaccine because it means my body is making it and itís not material being injected into me. The people who had allergic reactions are the same people who have anaphylactoid allergies to things like peanuts or eggs...so going with some peoples logic they should stop eating peanuts and eggs because some people react to it? The body sometimes reacts stupidly to SAFE things. My own child reacted negatively to a vaccine!

I recently watched a 4 hour documentary on Frontline about the AIDS pandemic and it is eerily similar to this one. At first they knew nothing about it but then slowly started learning more and more...itís not that the information kept changing itís that the information kept evolving as researcher learned more about the disease. I am glad it changed and evolved. There were protestors out against kids going to school because people are stupid and science hadnít caught up yet. We know more about COVID now then we did, thatís progress and shouldnít be seen as ďscience doesnít know because it changesĒ. The AIDS pandemic also became really political which is sad because many politicians in the world tried to distance themselves from it and listened to ďconspiracy theoristsĒ and did nothing (especially in South Africa the hardest hit). Anyway I am rambling but it was really neat to see how much better we are doing this time around to be honest!
12-11-2020 08:46 AM
CeriBear
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other here! I will take the vaccine AFTER its been out awile and i see what happens to others who take it.
This 100%. I donít want to be any sort of guinea pig. Iíll will not take the first round even if they paid me. Itís the same way for any new meds that come out.
12-10-2020 09:37 PM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Michael View Post
All of you would be better than the group we have in Congress.

Damn Straight 🙂👍
12-10-2020 10:50 AM
Michael All of you would be better than the group we have in Congress.
12-10-2020 09:15 AM
MyAngels
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
When you quote someone, you are replying to their post. In this instance it was a statement meant to negate my statement.

I merely countered an oppositional (**opposing viewpoint**) debate to my statement. If the statement was stand-alone, without quoting my statement, I would not even have responded.
Ok, sounds good.
12-10-2020 09:14 AM
MyAngels
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Originally Posted by Annalee View Post
I know covid is messing with our moods, but I disagree with your view about CH 'snapping'.
I am, in general, not a moody person. I know not everyone will agree with me. Differences of opinion are what makes the world go 'round, these days especially it would seem
12-10-2020 08:06 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
You didn't hurt my feelings! I just thought you were pissed at my comments and it was not my intention to do that.
No. Not in the least.

I welcome debates.

You are also welcome to private message me if you ever are in doubt. I promise, I am not a rager. I just use fewer words. Typing is harder when you get older.
12-10-2020 07:55 AM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
I am sorry if it hurt your feelings. It was not my intent.

Please don't quote me and counter my view if you don't want to debate me in the future. I find debate to be fun and engaging. I love learning new things and often do through debate.
You didn't hurt my feelings! I just thought you were pissed at my comments and it was not my intention to do that.
12-10-2020 07:43 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
Yep, this is how I see it too.
I am sorry if it hurt your feelings. It was not my intent.

Please don't quote me and counter my view if you don't want to debate me in the future. I find debate to be fun and engaging. I love learning new things and often do through debate.
12-10-2020 07:39 AM
Cat Herder FTR, I love to debate. It isn't personal to me and is not intended to be. Change my mind. I love that.
12-10-2020 07:36 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by MyAngels View Post
It definitely came across as a snap to more than one person, whether intended or not, as your posts sometimes do.

This is a thread about vaccines, so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that the post was "off topic" or "oppositional" either.
When you quote someone, you are replying to their post. In this instance it was a statement meant to negate my statement.

I merely countered an oppositional (**opposing viewpoint**) debate to my statement. If the statement was stand-alone, without quoting my statement, I would not even have responded.
12-10-2020 07:31 AM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by MyAngels View Post
It definitely came across as a snap to more than one person, whether intended or not, as your posts sometimes do.

This is a thread about vaccines, so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that the post was "off topic" or "oppositional" either.
Yep, this is how I see it too.
12-10-2020 07:27 AM
Annalee
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Originally Posted by MyAngels View Post
It definitely came across as a snap to more than one person, whether intended or not, as your posts sometimes do.

This is a thread about vaccines, so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that the post was "off topic" or "oppositional" either.
I know covid is messing with our moods, but I disagree with your view about CH 'snapping'.
12-10-2020 07:20 AM
MyAngels
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
It was not a snap, I wanted to know your point as it seemed off topic and oppositional. We already know that all vaccines have side effects, that has nothing to do with patients with known allergic reactions to immunizations jumping the line for the first covid-19 immunizations. A known contraindication. The point of the "wait" request by health officials is that this vaccine is in limited numbers and the hospitals are already overwhelmed with high needs patients. Taking the vaccine with known previous reactions would be a selfish choice. First, in taking a dose from someone who would more likely benefit. Second, in risking your life in an already over tasked ICU lowering your survival rate and costing your family thousands of dollars if you survive.

It would be akin to giving the only available liver to an alcoholic. Yes, the alcoholic will get the chance but should not be at the top of the list. Medical history matters.
It definitely came across as a snap to more than one person, whether intended or not, as your posts sometimes do.

This is a thread about vaccines, so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that the post was "off topic" or "oppositional" either.
12-10-2020 07:20 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
How in the world was I off topic? This is a thread about the vaccine right? Nevertheless, fault will be found somewhere.
You quoted me, not the OP. My post was about contraindications and an announced public health statement.

Your post said "2 people had allergic reaction, they are fine now. All vaccines carry a lengthy list of side effects."

They were not "fine" and my post was not about side effects. It isn't personal. No one is blocking anyone from taking it. It was a request for personal accountability.
12-10-2020 07:12 AM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
It was not a snap, I wanted to know your point as it seemed off topic and oppositional. We already know that all vaccines have side effects, that has nothing to do with patients with known allergic reactions to immunizations jumping the line for the first covid-19 immunizations. A known contraindication. The point of the "wait" request by health officials is that this vaccine is in limited numbers and the hospitals are already overwhelmed with high needs patients. Taking the vaccine with known previous reactions would be a selfish choice. First, in taking a dose from someone who would more likely benefit. Second, in risking your life in an already over tasked ICU lowering your survival rate and costing your family thousands of dollars if you survive.

It would be akin to giving the only available liver to an alcoholic. Yes, the alcoholic will get the chance but should not be at the top of the list. Medical history matters.
How in the world was I off topic? This is a thread about the vaccine right? Nevertheless, fault will be found somewhere.
12-10-2020 05:04 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
If you would have read my next reply to 284878 instead of snapping at me, you would see that I don't care whether people choose to take the vaccine or not. I simply pointed out that there ARE side effects to ALL vaccines.
It was not a snap, I wanted to know your point as it seemed off topic and oppositional. We already know that all vaccines have side effects, that has nothing to do with patients with known allergic reactions to immunizations jumping the line for the first covid-19 immunizations. A known contraindication. The point of the "wait" request by health officials is that this vaccine is in limited numbers and the hospitals are already overwhelmed with high needs patients. Taking the vaccine with known previous reactions would be a selfish choice. First, in taking a dose from someone who would more likely benefit. Second, in risking your life in an already over tasked ICU lowering your survival rate and costing your family thousands of dollars if you survive.

It would be akin to giving the only available liver to an alcoholic. Yes, the alcoholic will get the chance but should not be at the top of the list. Medical history matters.
12-10-2020 04:46 AM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
And? Your point?

If you want to take the vaccine, take the vaccine. No one is stopping you. Be my guest.
If you would have read my next reply to 284878 instead of snapping at me, you would see that I don't care whether people choose to take the vaccine or not. I simply pointed out that there ARE side effects to ALL vaccines.
12-10-2020 04:15 AM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
2 people had allergic reaction, they are fine now. All vaccines carry a lengthy list of side effects.
And? Your point?

If you want to take the vaccine, take the vaccine. No one is stopping you. Be my guest.
12-10-2020 04:14 AM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by 284878 View Post
Sorry, it was an auto correct.

Your post came across to me as saying that ...

If one did not get the vaccine just because of 2 people that had an allergic reaction (and were fine) they were in the wrong because all vaccines have side effects.

But if you did not mean it that way, then I take back 100% of my reply.
12-09-2020 08:58 PM
284878
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
Help me see how I said something to degrade you?

Also, I really don't care whether people take this vaccine or not.
Sorry, it was an auto correct.

Your post came across to me as saying that ...

If one did not get the vaccine just because of 2 people that had an allergic reaction (and were fine) they were in the wrong because all vaccines have side effects.

But if you did not mean it that way, then I take back 100% of my reply.
12-09-2020 08:24 PM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by 284878 View Post
Some people that are allergic to vaccines do not get lengthy side effects because the side effect is life-ending for them. Please do not degrade my decision or anyones, to hold off on taking the vaccine because only a small percentage vs a large percentage had a reaction and they are fine. I will choose to quarantine then risk having a life-ending reaction to something that is supposed to save me from getting sick.
Help me see how I said something to degrade you?

Also, I really don't care whether people take this vaccine or not.
12-09-2020 06:33 PM
284878
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Originally Posted by Valerie928 View Post
2 people had allergic reaction, they are fine now. All vaccines carry a lengthy list of side effects.
Some people that are allergic to vaccines do not get lengthy side effects because the side effect is life-ending for them. Please do not degrade my decision or anyones, to hold off on taking the vaccine because only a small percentage vs a large percentage had a reaction and they are fine. I will choose to quarantine then risk having a life-ending reaction to something that is supposed to save me from getting sick.
12-09-2020 04:45 PM
Valerie928
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
Here are my sources: https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...KBN28J1SU?il=0 - UK medicine regulator examining Pfizer vaccine reactions as matter of priority

https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...KBN28J1D1?il=0 - UK warns people with serious allergies to avoid Pfizer vaccine after two adverse reactions
2 people had allergic reaction, they are fine now. All vaccines carry a lengthy list of side effects.
12-09-2020 01:51 PM
Gemma
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
Here are my sources: https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...KBN28J1SU?il=0 - UK medicine regulator examining Pfizer vaccine reactions as matter of priority

https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...KBN28J1D1?il=0 - UK warns people with serious allergies to avoid Pfizer vaccine after two adverse reactions
I want nothing to do with these vaccines, I rather take my chances with the virus
12-09-2020 12:52 PM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by 284878 View Post
Thank you for letting me know. It looks like I will not be getting one right away then.
Here are my sources: https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...KBN28J1SU?il=0 - UK medicine regulator examining Pfizer vaccine reactions as matter of priority

https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...KBN28J1D1?il=0 - UK warns people with serious allergies to avoid Pfizer vaccine after two adverse reactions
12-09-2020 12:50 PM
284878
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
I read that too... They were taking about allergic reactions this morning and warning those with past immunization reactions to hold off a bit.
Thank you for letting me know. It looks like I will not be getting one right away then.
12-09-2020 12:40 PM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by 284878 View Post
Just heard on the radio that the first few to get the vaccine in the UK included William Shakespeare. Wow, I did not know he was still alive.
I read that too... They were taking about allergic reactions this morning and warning those with past immunization reactions to hold off a bit.
12-09-2020 12:36 PM
284878 Just heard on the radio that the first few to get the vaccine in the UK included William Shakespeare. Wow, I did not know he was still alive.
12-08-2020 01:27 PM
Michael
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
Ugh. You have my sympathies. We are still clearing downed trees all over our property from Zita.
I can imagine! My in-laws were in the eye of that CAT5 hurricane Michael (no less). They had at least 5 huge trees come down. One in their garage. It takes a lot of money and work to remove them. Iím lucky. Mine is about 15 feet tall with a 1 foot diameter.
12-08-2020 12:55 PM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by Michael View Post
Speaking of trees óThe winds here have been so strong the last 4 days that my poor tree in the front yard blew down last night. I will spend today cutting it up. Right now itís an eyesore.
Ugh. You have my sympathies. We are still clearing downed trees all over our property from Zita.
12-08-2020 12:41 PM
284878
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Originally Posted by Rockgirl View Post
How nice of him! That sounds delicious. We do taco Tuesday here, too. My carne asada is currently marinating in the fridge for tonight.
Lol we are having taco too. Got them in the crock pot right now.
12-08-2020 12:38 PM
Michael
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Originally Posted by Annalee View Post
I'm gonna shift totally and work on a Family Tree for my 11th grade son!!! Then I'm gonna get me something good like chocolate to eat.
Speaking of trees —The winds here have been so strong the last 4 days that my poor tree in the front yard blew down last night. I will spend today cutting it up. Right now it’s an eyesore.
12-08-2020 12:38 PM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by Josiegirl View Post
Are those tacos from your Every Plate? I got so sick of tacos when our kids were growing up because we had them every single week but those tacos sound really good!
Yes! They have a couple different tacos, quesadillas, flat breads or tostadas almost weekly in the choices. There are usually about 12-14 choices each week, vegetarian, too. Black Bean & Pepper Jack Tostadas with Southwest Lime Crema & Spicy Pico de Gallo is for tomorrow. It really is worth it for us. $38 per week/3 big meals/2 people. Easy fun.
12-08-2020 12:31 PM
Josiegirl
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
He is pretty awesome. I really am spoiled most days. It has been a transition to him working exclusively from home these past couple years, but we have finally found our flow. Well, most days.

Our tacos for tonight are "Sweet Chili Pork Tacos with Red Cabbage Slaw, Zesty Crema & Peanuts". It will be our second time having them and man are they delicious. We are still doing Every Plate 3 nights a week. It has been really fun and has introduced us to things we have never seen in our grocery stores. Can't beat the prices, either. I was surprised.
Are those tacos from your Every Plate? I got so sick of tacos when our kids were growing up because we had them every single week but those tacos sound really good!
12-08-2020 12:30 PM
Rockgirl
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
He is pretty awesome. I really am spoiled most days. It has been a transition to him working exclusively from home these past couple years, but we have finally found our flow. Well, most days.

Our tacos for tonight are "Sweet Chili Pork Tacos with Red Cabbage Slaw, Zesty Crema & Peanuts". It will be our second time having them and man are they delicious. We are still doing Every Plate 3 nights a week. It has been really fun and has introduced us to things we have never seen in our grocery stores. Can't beat the prices, either. I was surprised.
Oh, my wordóthat sounds delicious!!
12-08-2020 12:15 PM
Cat Herder
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Originally Posted by Rockgirl View Post
How nice of him! That sounds delicious. We do taco Tuesday here, too. My carne asada is currently marinating in the fridge for tonight.
He is pretty awesome. I really am spoiled most days. It has been a transition to him working exclusively from home these past couple years, but we have finally found our flow. Well, most days.

Our tacos for tonight are "Sweet Chili Pork Tacos with Red Cabbage Slaw, Zesty Crema & Peanuts". It will be our second time having them and man are they delicious. We are still doing Every Plate 3 nights a week. It has been really fun and has introduced us to things we have never seen in our grocery stores. Can't beat the prices, either. I was surprised.
12-08-2020 12:00 PM
Rockgirl
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Originally Posted by Cat Herder View Post
That sounds fun. Never a bad day for chocolate.

I am being spoiled today. DH grilled steaks and made twice baked potato's for lunch. He said he wanted steak and is not willing to give up taco night...

I am supposed to be putting up a tree with the daycare kids this afternoon, I don't see that happening with such a heavy lunch. Maybe waterpaints and staring out the window.....
How nice of him! That sounds delicious. We do taco Tuesday here, too. My carne asada is currently marinating in the fridge for tonight.
12-08-2020 10:41 AM
Blackcat31
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Thats a great idea, I never thought about that before, can I use it, it would be great 😊
Absolutely!

It is rather genius if I do say so myself! lol!
12-08-2020 10:11 AM
VictoryCare I mean your plan about the cookies..lol
12-08-2020 09:57 AM
VictoryCare And maybe exchange Christmas activity ideas to do with the kids?
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