An Odd Question
Hi everyone,
I am wondering if there is any kind of requirement for licensed daycare centers to have certified restraint-trained personnel on staff in the event of a possible aggressive/violent behavioral situation? I live in MetroWest MA, and my niece is experiencing this situation at the moment. She is looking for a center that provides such personnel. Does anyone know of anyplace like this, or if you have every heard of a situation like this? Thanks! |
That sounds odd. I wouldn't think so.
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i've heard of a big leather belt with holes drilled into it.
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I know in MN there is no requirement for restraint/hog tie training for a daycare license.
But, I'm pretty good with a lasso and can bind a calf pretty easily, kid can't be that much harder-they don't run near as fast!:D Serioiusly, I think you'd have to shop around for a provider who specializes in behavior problem children. And that won't be cheap, either. |
I guess only public schools are required to have the training starting in pre-school. That's too bad, but I'm sure it would be expensive for the provider (training-wise), as well as the parents, for the daycare to have that kind of staff available. Thanks for the replies (however, I am a bit concerned about the leather belt with holes comment).
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Originally Posted by Unregistered: |
I think in the case of a child who is known to need to be restrained the child would need to come with a support worker. In my area, daycares are not permitted to restrain a child.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered: the child is too young to have been diagnosed with any "disorder" and it sounds like a behavior problem to me. a daycare age child having violent outbursts should be able to be fixed pretty quick - usually before it starts. |
Originally Posted by Unregistered: I'm unsure about the requirements for public schools having a restraint trained person on staff, but keep in mind you're comparing a daycare (usually one person operation) with a school setting, which normally has a staff of 50 or more people. |
Originally Posted by booroo: |
Originally Posted by Chickenhauler: When explosive children are injured simply by the resistant force that an adult HAS to provide to keep them from harming themselves, others, and property the result will be requiring us to get trained to restrain without harming. Right now in my State MAT training is required for wannabe foster care parents. I think if we surveyed providers both center and home all over the country and asked them: Are children becoming more violent at a younger age, is it the same, or is it less? I think the overwhelming answer would be MORE violent at a YOUNGER age. Once the parent, child, and provider are not the only ones involved in the outcomes of violent little kids... meaning the other parents, other kids, and insurers... When the State is having to use it's resources to evaluate whether or not an injury to the violent child was an act of aggression or protection for the provider.. THEN we will see required training and possibly even restraint equipment. |
Originally Posted by nannyde: I completely agree. Kids ARE becoming more violent at a younger age simply because they have not been forced to develop self control and appropriate methods to deal with aggression. One of the biggies is that we are raising kids who think that THEY should be number one ALL the time. And when you have five or more kids who think the entire Universe is there soley to serve them and what they want then somebody, somewhere is gonna get hurt.;) I find it VERY interesting that the kids who are disciplined least often and least severely are also, IME, the most violent of all the kids. |
Originally Posted by Unregistered: i do know they won't put up with violent outbursts so the kid is headed for special ed. unless it gets put under control. |
Originally Posted by QualiTcare: |
Originally Posted by professionalmom: |
I am restraint-trained (Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, Drug Withdrawal, Aspergers, Developmental Disorder, PTSD/Rage etc.).
To find a home provider that offers this you may want to inquire into local foster parents whom provide daycare. That is how I received my initial training. You can call local home providers to find one willing to attend class with you so you can work together effectively for the best possible outcome for your child. It never hurts to just ask. Also check with your local child care referral service, they will have a list of providers in your area (many of us do not advertise). They may have solutions we have not considered. Good luck!! |
what a question!!!!!!!!!!!
I've really never thought of restraining training! If I had a parent who needed daycare and needed someone with restraint training, I'd probably have to turn the child away because I'd be a bit nervous.
I can't imagine what it's like in schools these days when there is the possibility of a lawsuit lurking around every corner. I went to a school that used corporal punishment and if what I experienced at school were to happen in schools today, there would be criminal charges and lawsuits all over the place! I got my butt paddled with a wooden paddle so many times!!! |
Originally Posted by Janet: |
School butt spankings
Unfortunately, I had a defiant streak in me that took years for my school to handle. I wasn't mean to anyone, and I wasn't a physical threat to anyone, but I had a mouth on me! I got spanked on the 1st day of school for 4 out of 5 years in elementary school (that didn't count all of the other spankings that I got!)
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Originally Posted by professionalmom: we had a whole class talking about possible lawsuits/what to do/what not to do, etc. make sure the door is always open if you have to be alone in the room with a kid...don't hold them, etc. it's insane. there was a teacher locally who got sued by a teenage boy's parents because he grabbed him by the arm when the boy was out of control. it ended up being dropped, but the charges actually got filed and apparently a prosecutor thought it was a legitimate claim. yeah, so, you're not likely to find a teacher trained in restraint because it's not required and they sure aren't gonna sign up for it. |
When I was in K-2 they were still allowing hand swats with rulers. Most of the time, though, naughty kids got sat in a corner with a dunce hat on...that was really embarrassing. :p I'd take a swat over having to put the pointy hat on and sit in the corner for all to mock and laugh quietly. Around 3rd grade (1987?) They stopped using rulers and dunce hats =/ Where I'm from, if a child needs restraining, they have a special school for naughty kids. Mostly the naughty kids get to sit in their special school fom 9am-2pm and play, color, talk, stare..etc...they aren't actually taught ANYTHING useful :mad:
It's so sad the direction our country / society is headed in. I say bring back spankings, and the right to impose fear of repercussion in our children... It was always the fear of what if that stopped me as a kid. |
Originally Posted by MN Mom: Now, spanking a child with an open hand I am cool with. Using objects like leather I am NOT cool with. I behaved because I KNEW my fate if I didn't. Just like now as an adult I behave because I know my fate if I don't (jail). I see NOTHING wrong with a child having some fear and using that fear as a deterrent to acting out in an inappropriate manner. That's how society works! Kids now can go out and flipping MURDER someone before the age of 18 in Canada and get off for it! I mean COME ON! We are going down a very slippery slope when we raise children to have NO control mechanisms because we have allowed them to run the show. |
Originally Posted by Janet: Unfortunately, my father and the principal were good friends who had gone to the "old school" together and he not only had permission, but encouragement to blister my butt if he felt it was needed. And I was one of those kids who needed it on a regular basis.:D |
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