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hwichlaz 06-27-2018 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Unregistered:
In your car scenario, the car is still available to the owner. This is the difference. Their spouse/friend/roommate or whatever could drive them around, they could sit in the driveway playing their car stereo if they chose, whatever. The lein holder is not going to come reposses the car for 6 weeks so the car can have a little vacay time while demanding that payment still be made. If this happened you'd all be here crying in the forums, while continuing to charge your customers for services not rendered.

I still have to make my car payment when it’s stuck in the repair shop :)

Unregistered 12-06-2018 07:56 PM

Wow! These childcare workers seem super bitter and confrontational. Also why do you also assume that all parents who pay for childcare get paid days off? Some people own and operate their own businesses or work for themselves so if my child is only going to the facility 2 out of the four days we pay for due to a holiday; it definitely doesn’t feel fair to parents. Prorating makes more sense. To answer most of your question “why should we get a paid day off?” The answer is, you probably only have an associates and work for a private facility or yourself. So maybe you should stop complaining and get and actual salary/union job if you want paid days off. That being said my son’s preschool teachers are great and I’m glad that at least some of the money all of the parents are paying is actually going towards their paid holiday.

Blackcat31 12-06-2018 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Wow! These childcare workers seem super bitter and confrontational. Also why do you also assume that all parents who pay for childcare get paid days off? Some people own and operate their own businesses or work for themselves so if my child is only going to the facility 2 out of the four days we pay for due to a holiday; it definitely doesn’t feel fair to parents. Prorating makes more sense. To answer most of your question “why should we get a paid day off?” The answer is, you probably only have an associates and work for a private facility or yourself. So maybe you should stop complaining and get and actual salary/union job if you want paid days off. That being said my son’s preschool teachers are great and I’m glad that at least some of the money all of the parents are paying is actually going towards their paid holiday.

They aren’t bitter or confrontational
They’re probably just frustrated that even after 4 pages of explanations parents still don’t see the answer.....

Don’t sign the contract if you don’t like the policies.

There are many child care options available.
Choose the one that works for you.

That’s not bitter or confrontational.
It’s simple logic :)

Michael 12-06-2018 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
They’re probably just frustrated that even after 4 pages of explanations parents still don’t see the answer.....

True that! ^

mommyneedsadayoff 12-07-2018 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Wow! These childcare workers seem super bitter and confrontational. Also why do you also assume that all parents who pay for childcare get paid days off? Some people own and operate their own businesses or work for themselves so if my child is only going to the facility 2 out of the four days we pay for due to a holiday; it definitely doesn’t feel fair to parents. Prorating makes more sense. To answer most of your question “why should we get a paid day off?” The answer is, you probably only have an associates and work for a private facility or yourself. So maybe you should stop complaining and get and actual salary/union job if you want paid days off. That being said my son’s preschool teachers are great and I’m glad that at least some of the money all of the parents are paying is actually going towards their paid holiday.

So you DO agree that childcare providers should get paid days off. Glad you got your negativity out before admitting you actually agree with paid time off. Also, you should tell your provider they need an actual job if they want the time off. Because caring for your child in a center versus caring for a child in an in-home daycare makes all the difference in being deserving of paid time off.:rolleyes: One's an actual job and one is not according to you. Just make sure you tell them that up front before signing the contract.:cool:

amberrose3dg 12-10-2018 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by mommyneedsadayoff:
So you DO agree that childcare providers should get paid days off. Glad you got your negativity out before admitting you actually agree with paid time off. Also, you should tell your provider they need an actual job if they want the time off. Because caring for your child in a center versus caring for a child in an in-home daycare makes all the difference in being deserving of paid time off.:rolleyes: One's an actual job and one is not according to you. Just make sure you tell them that up front before signing the contract.:cool:

Exactly! Pick a daycare that doesn't charge when the child isn't there. I have had families not enroll with me because of this. I rather not enroll them then have them getting rude everytime a paid day off comes up!

Unregistered 06-08-2019 12:10 AM

Unfair
 
To me if you take in the fact that we gotta find another person to watch our child or children to me it’s unreasonable. I feel like mandatory Holliday’s like Christmas NewYears Thanksgiving July4th etc are time my problem is taking up to 5 days off around theses days and still getting paid. Or when you have a family emergency and can’t work you still get paid that’s bull. Everyone deserves vacation time just be reasonable.

Blackcat31 06-08-2019 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Unregistered:
To me if you take in the fact that we gotta find another person to watch our child or children to me it’s unreasonable. I feel like mandatory Holliday’s like Christmas NewYears Thanksgiving July4th etc are time my problem is taking up to 5 days off around theses days and still getting paid. Or when you have a family emergency and can’t work you still get paid that’s bull. Everyone deserves vacation time just be reasonable.

What one person considers reasonable is debatable so like it’s been said 100X’s already the answer to this dilemma is to find a provider or child care solution that works for YOU.

There are so many options out there and so many providers that charge/don’t charge for vacations, closed days and off time that it’s unreasonable for you to think that everyone should have the same policies or have policies that work for only you.

The reasonable thing to do would be to find a provider or a care solution that fits YOUR needs.

springv 06-08-2019 08:59 AM

Our center charges a set price based on their age and they pay even if we are closed. We only close Thanksgiving and the day after, new years, Christmas eve and Christmas day, memorial day, 4th of July and good Friday. If we close for bad weather our parents pay and if they are on assistance to help pay for childcare they have to swipe an absence for the day that we are closed

Rockgirl 06-08-2019 09:20 AM

I looked to see if “dead horse” was a tag for this thread. Yes, it is! :D

Michael 06-08-2019 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Rockgirl:
I looked to see if “dead horse” was a tag for this thread. Yes, it is! :D

That dead horse is immortal on this thread.

Rockgirl 06-09-2019 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by Michael:
That dead horse is immortal on this thread.

No kidding!

Blackcat31 06-09-2019 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Rockgirl:
No kidding!

Right?!
Every time I see this thread pop up I start singing “second verse... same as the first” in my head :ouch::lol:

MamaG2903 06-09-2019 12:28 PM

http://i63.tinypic.com/fd8ug8.jpg

:lol:

Unregistered 09-20-2019 10:23 PM

Glad you don't look after my child
 

Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Very well said. Yes, you are paying for the spot, not the hours you use it, unless you EXCEED the hours agreed on.

Seems you want yo have it both ways, you want to come and go as you please and charge us for your non-service because we are paying for the spot. So if I am paying for a spot like a salary as stated previous then it should not matter if hours are exceed since you have no concern to charge us when you do nothing at all and are not open for business.

Cat Herder 09-23-2019 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Seems you want yo have it both ways, you want to come and go as you please and charge us for your non-service because we are paying for the spot. So if I am paying for a spot like a salary as stated previous then it should not matter if hours are exceed since you have no concern to charge us when you do nothing at all and are not open for business.

Closed days are included in annual tuition cost that is spread out over 52 weeks for your convenience.

Leaving your child at a business past closing time is abandonment.

Like comparing apples to felonies.

SnowGirl 09-29-2019 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
Closed days are included in annual tuition cost that is spread out over 52 weeks for your convenience.

Leaving your child at a business past closing time is abandonment.

Like comparing apples to felonies.

I'm SURE another provider in this asinine thread has mentioned this over the years...but I don't actually charge on holidays.

I have a weekly fee, and sometimes that fee is less if I'm closed for vacation or holidays.

HOWEVER, my weekly rate reflects that. It's higher than it would be if I charged for holidays and vacation days...because I still calculated my annual salary and divided it by weeks of the year, considering three weeks closed and holidays.

I would be making the same amount either way...it's just a slightly bigger pain in the youknowwhat to calculate rates on the rare weeks I am closed.

Unregistered 10-03-2019 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Seems you want yo have it both ways, you want to come and go as you please and charge us for your non-service because we are paying for the spot. So if I am paying for a spot like a salary as stated previous then it should not matter if hours are exceed since you have no concern to charge us when you do nothing at all and are not open for business.

I would be glad too....not to have you come to care 😂 Your child deserves better than such a selfish parent. STAY.HOME. if you don't like/understand the fees or go to a drop-in provider ( more $ and no guarantee of availability). You are a crappy parent if you think it's okay to leave your kids for hours on end at daycare when you're not really even doing anything, simply because of money. That just goes to show what kind of person you are. Either you are a troll or selfish total b****

lblanke 10-07-2019 05:38 AM

I think parents complain less when billed monthly (think preschool fees), so they pay for the month even if closed for a week. It probably seems different to pay $500 per month for December than $125 per week for 4 weeks if childcare is closed for 1 of those weeks, but most of your parents who pay weekly would probably complain that they cannot pay monthly.

Unregistered 11-08-2019 11:46 AM

Holidays
 
My daughters daycare keeps adding days off around holidays. I don't get assistance and have to pay full price. This year, on top of the extra Friday before Memorial Day, they have Wednesday, Thursday and Friday Christmas week and New Years. That's $240 for 4 days of daycare. Isn't there some type of law? Does the state have to pay all these extra days, I work government job and they get more holidays then I do and I have to pay for daycare that isn't available.

Snowmom 11-08-2019 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Unregistered:
My daughters daycare keeps adding days off around holidays. I don't get assistance and have to pay full price. This year, on top of the extra Friday before Memorial Day, they have Wednesday, Thursday and Friday Christmas week and New Years. That's $240 for 4 days of daycare. Isn't there some type of law? Does the state have to pay all these extra days, I work government job and they get more holidays then I do and I have to pay for daycare that isn't available.

If it doesn't work for you, then find a different daycare that aligns with what you want.
No, there's no law that tells a business owner what holidays they can and can not be paid for. :rolleyes:
You should be supplied with what the terms are and you either agree and sign up or disagree and look elsewhere.

Just to compare, because you'd hate my daycare: I am closed and get paid Christmas Eve through New Years Day, 2 days at Thanksgiving, Veteran's Day, 2 days for Memorial Day, Labor Day, 2 days for 4th of July, President's Day and gosh, I know I'm forgetting more.

Josiegirl 11-09-2019 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by Unregistered:
My daughters daycare keeps adding days off around holidays. I don't get assistance and have to pay full price. This year, on top of the extra Friday before Memorial Day, they have Wednesday, Thursday and Friday Christmas week and New Years. That's $240 for 4 days of daycare. Isn't there some type of law? Does the state have to pay all these extra days, I work government job and they get more holidays then I do and I have to pay for daycare that isn't available.

How far ahead do they give you notice for unexpected days off? Is it a family in home dc? I can see how it'd be an inconvenience in many ways. My policies always stated the usual holidays(which did include my vacation during Christmas time); I also added that occasionally I would include an extra day to make a 4 day weekend, such as when the 4th of July falls on a Thursday or Tuesday type of thing. Did your dc policies include that information? And looking at the # of days closed through out the year, is it unreasonable? Everyone needs vacation time or they burn out, especially caregivers. :( If you and your child like your provider other than the issue of time closed, think long and hard before you decide to switch. Sometimes you simply switch issues and the next provider might not be as good a fit.
I also added in my policies to have reliable backup because providers are normal human beings who get sick themselves and have unexpected life thrown at them.

Ariana 11-12-2019 12:12 PM

Sounds like childcare is such a good gig for some of the parents commenting. You should give it a try...then come back in a year and let us know how it is going :ouch:

Buly1958 12-26-2019 06:28 AM

Charging on Holidays
 
Thank you for the details


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