COVID-19 and It’s Potential Spread in the Childcare Setting
Here’s a new report from the CDC where Children aged ≥10 years have been shown to transmit SARS-CoV-2 in school settings.
Children transmit coronavirus to their family members following exposure at child care facilities, according to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) report https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937e3.htm |
They had an article about this on my local news app and people commented and said it was the most stupidest thing they've ever saw because they said that it was common sense and criticized the news people for posting such an article
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Come on, November. :Sunny:
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Not surprised. We have known kids are less likely to show symptoms. We know clustering spreads it like wildfire.
I had an inquiry for a preschooler a couppe of days ago-and I have nobody enrolled so I would really love clients-and aside from a couple of other possible red flags anyway, she mentioned her daughter attending the special ed preschool. I said I am not taking kids going to dual preschools during covid. |
One of my DCM's called yesterday and said her oldest child was needing to be picked up from school because someone in the child's class tested positive for COVID-19.
No symptoms from my understanding and no idea why they were even tested but they sent the entire class home and aren't allowing them to return for 2 weeks. Odd thing is IMHO, they only sent that child's class home, NOT the other classes. It's a K- 5th grade school with 3+ classrooms for each grade level but ONLY this child's class is being quarantined/excluded none of the other grades or classrooms. :confused: Thankfully my DCM is super proactive and is bringing her youngest who attend daycare here in to be tested before returning here. I appreciate that she understands the risks and is willing to do whatever it takes to keep peace of mind for everyone. I think it helps that she is also a small business owner herself and does NOT want to have to shut down her business any more than I do. |
Originally Posted by Blackcat31: I know in our case, the board of health nurse only wanted the names of kids/parents who were in close contact with the child who tested positive. Close contact was defined as having spent more than 15 minutes with and less than 6' from the child. They also had to be in my care with the child during the 2 days prior to the child showing symptoms. They must have determined that the student in other classes didn't meet the criteria for being in close contact. Even though the child who tested positive was in my home, I'm the only one in my family who had contact with him so while I have to quarantine, my family members don't have to unless I come down with symptoms. |
Originally Posted by Blackcat31: |
Originally Posted by e.j.: I am playing it by ear I guess and just making sure all my families know that ANY/ALL symptoms equates to exclusion. I don't care what they say the root cause it...none of them (except one..lol!) are doctors so unless COVID is actually ruled out, the root cause is simply a guessing game. Better safe than sorry. Originally Posted by Annalee: I'll keep you posted as to how it plays out. |
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Originally Posted by e.j.: Until the government changes protocol, I cringe at the word covid. I sense the state is pulling away from the "help-assistance" and that scares me because the 14-24 day quarantine depending on the situation is still in place. Maybe that protocol will change with the election, I don't know. I kind of hope it does because worrying about closing your business is not fun!!! Maybe they will treat it like the flu....I don't know! I do agree with the article and it makes sense, but still cringe at the thought of that as I will have to close for long lengths of time as of right now...I do feel that will change, though, and become less worrisome or so I hope it does! We are told here the school choice of remote or in-person will become the new normal. I think covid has forever changed school, work-place, child care, colleges, etc. My brother works for a large insurance company and he flies all over the southeast US but he has been home since March and his company has saved so much money and have learned it works and the employees like it so it will remain in large part in that format with a few tweaks. Look at NAFCC, the national conference was on a zoom format. Look at our licensing visits being virtual since March and it works. Look at the training/workshops that multiple child care personnel have been a part of. Right or wrong, I see it remaining in large part?? AND I am so excited QRIS has been changed forever...the best thing yet. :) |
Originally Posted by Annalee: |
Originally Posted by e.j.: I have closed twice for fourteen days and once for a few days waiting on dh covid test which was negative. There have been grants in place up to this point to pay child care providers or reimburse clients if they paid in advance during the closing but these grants end at the end of this month and clients/providers know what CAN happen with just the word "covid" so it is a gamble every day. |
Originally Posted by Annalee: |
Originally Posted by Gemma: |
Siblings at dayhome, and sickness policy
If a child is home sick with covid symptoms and requires a covid test do you allow their sibling (with no symptoms) to come to dayhome?
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Originally Posted by MsJen: |
Originally Posted by Gemma: |
Originally Posted by e.j.: |
We have to keep rewriting our covid protocols as it seems like they keep changing.
We had a teacher whose husband got tested because he called into work sick and they required a test before he could return. We let her continue to come to work as our previous policy had said a doctor had to order the test and his was randomly ordered by work. He got tested Monday and got positive results on wednesday. We sent her home and informed all the parents. Most of them wanted her to get a test so we sent her for one. She had no symptoms but did receive a positve result on Monday. We had to report to the health department and they required us to quarantine anyone who had close contact with her 2 days before the test. 12 kids and 1 teacher are now in quarantine and parents are not happy. We had to update our COVID protocols to say that if any family member is getting a test you must stay home until you receive the results. |
Originally Posted by Unregistered: Fever/symptom free, without medication, for a minimum 48 hours would be my requirement. |
Originally Posted by satcook: |
A DCD just tested positive. :eek:
I’ve had no direct contact with him as mom does all drop offs/pick ups. They have two full time kids (age 1 and 3) here Now I am nervous.... :ouch::eek::ouch: |
Originally Posted by Blackcat31: |
Originally Posted by Blackcat31: |
Originally Posted by e.j.: Yes DCM got tested immediately after her DH's results came back as positive. She is a nurse practioner so I am hoping/praying she continues to take the precautions she knows. I am concerned about whether or not she is planning to have the kids tested or not. If not, I worry they could potentially become infected while they are all in quarantine and then return to care after the 14 days and give it to others. I am debating on "requiring" a test before readmittance. Not sure how effective or helpful that is/isn't. I am just more anxious about this now that it seems to be getting awfully close to my own family. The DCK sibling I previously mentioned that got sent home from school with a high temp was tested and found not to have it so that was good! Thank you for the prayers... my DH is freaking out so they are definitely needed. lovethis |
Originally Posted by Blackcat31: |
Originally Posted by Valerie928: |
Originally Posted by Blackcat31: |
Originally Posted by Reimel61: The whole family is suppose to quarantine for 14 days and the parent with COVID is suppose to isolate themselves from the rest of the family for those 14 days as well. I am calmer now and not as freaked out but still it's such a scary situation and being that no one really knows exactly how to handle it, it makes the anxiety lever rise for sure. On a good note, the first thing the DCM did last night was Zelle me the payment that covers the 14 days of quarantine. likethis:) |
Originally Posted by Blackcat31: |
Originally Posted by Blackcat31: |
Originally Posted by springvalley112: |
DCM who is a teacher called me today to say a student in her class tested positive :eek: and she was on her way to pick up her son to go get tested. She and son have no symptoms but we know that means nothing. I immediately called DOH to find out if to inform DCPs, close while we wait for results, etc. Well, DOH took my information to 'submit my inquiry' and said someone would call me back to advise...huh :confused:? I told them I needed to know now which got me nowhere. So I wait. The emotional roller coaster is destabilizing. Sighhhh...
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Originally Posted by dolores: |
I wish, as a business, those affected (kids or staff) could be tested and move on with the business if the test is negative rather than a mandated 14-24 day shutdown due to close contact depending on the situation.
The testing might close our business 1-4 days max, but at least that is tolerable....then the covid-positive child or staff could stay home 10-14 days depending on the situation. I am in hopes this happens soon and I'm "feeling" it will which will loosen up some "hardships" placed on business especially daycares/schools. Plus, I feel there is no conclusive way to determine the spread as it can be sporadic at times. Also, I'm tired of living in fear of losing my livelihood....not afraid of dying (don't wanna get it) but am not afraid of dying and it has no relation to me not having faith as I would not stand in the road and expect a car not to hit me....but I will continue to mask as needed and other measures to fight germs. Just my thoughts as I watched some politics today and I feel it is coming to what I'm hoping for. So tired of worrying about someone in my own family or a daycare kid getting covid and me having to shut down. I'm rambling with my feelings/thoughts tonight but needed to get it out. :) |
Every week I see a few home daycares or centers having to close due to covid . Whether it's an infected parent , child or provider.
Once a daycare is shut down for the 2 weeks (or a negative test) most parents are scrambling to find other care and not quarantining as required. Providers have asked for the state to keep a list so we can see what daycares are affected and be able to make informed decisions about accepting new children into care . We were told no . Providers are now letting other providers know of positive cases as they are being temporarily shut down so they don't accept children who should not be in care . |
Originally Posted by dolores: It's so unsettling the way this whole thing is playing out. I am sooooo nervous about my DCK's returning. The DCM is kind of frustrated with the length of the required quarantine/isolation but thankfully my state's DOH and my licensor made communication with parents in regards to protocols something the parents can't really get mad at us for. The info they've provided has made it clear that it's not up to providers how long the kids are excluded so parents can't really try and negotiate with us. I don't have issues with that but I imagine it's a load off for providers that do struggle with parent confrontation. Technically my DCM and DCD are out of quarantine Sunday (10/11) but now since they were both positive and they had close contact with their kids, the kids start their 14 day quarantine the day after the parent's quarantine ends. I struggled with feeling bad the parents had to continue paying for care for so long (28 days total) for this but I've since come to realize that while it does seem long, it is for everyone's sake AND I wasn't the one that made the decision to travel out of state for a large "close" gathering.... soooo. I just hope and pray everyone is able to get past all this and we can get back to living life. I know it won't be the old normal but I'd like some type of consistency and routine that is more comforting that what we all have happening now. :hug: to all of you dealing with this in one way or another! :hug: |
Originally Posted by Annalee: I am not scared of dying or any of that... I am scared for the mental health of my family and myself. I am worried about some idiot not caring and passing it to my DH. Or some parent sending their kid not caring about others causing me to have to close etc... I feel like we (general we as providers) are trying to do the best we can and yet so many parents still only care about themselves and if they'll continue having care. I have a family that is concerned their child might get it since the parents in one of my DC families has it yet the worried parent has no issues traveling outside our community or enrolling their child in every extra curricular activity available right now. They want to point the finger to others but take zero responsibility themselves. You know...normal selfish parent behaviors...guess even COVID isn't enough to make them step back and ask what they can do to be part of the solution instead part of the blame train. :rolleyes: Catastrophes, pandemics etc... these are times in which people should come together and work together for the betterment of ALL people but the same entitled selfish behavior is so evident in so many that it's sad.... ....and like always, those that care and are concerned get the short end of it all. So I hear your rambling thoughts Annalee and am right there with you!!! :hug: lovethis :hug: |
Originally Posted by Blackcat31: |
Originally Posted by e.j.: DCM and family tested negative with nose swab and are awaiting results from 'standard tests'. She was told she can return to the classroom on 10/16 which is 14 days since she last had contact with positive student so DCB will return to me then. |
Originally Posted by dolores: I hope the fact DCM tested negative helps put your mind at ease at least as much as possible.:hug: |
Originally Posted by Blackcat31: No such luck for me. DOH, 3 days later, has not called me back. Their non-responsiveness is sooooo frustrating! I'm not a wreck as I was when I got DCM's first call, as it looks to be working out. DCM and family got nose swab which was negative.They are waiting on results from the standard test. Entire family is quarantining for 14 days. Meanwhile, schools and nonessential businesses are being shut down in zip codes around me because people are not following guidelines. And we were doing so good... |
Originally Posted by e.j.: We remain vulnerable even if precautions are being taken. And the lack of timely response from authorities when you need them sucks! Stay safe everyone :hug: |
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