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Sergio 04-27-2015 04:56 PM

Tax Status Of Family Child Care In A California Rental Home?
 
In California, a licensed small family child care (for up to 6 kids) in a rental home is considered residential- not business- use of the property. So if that's a fact, then

- Can the licensed small family child care in a California rental home be registered as an LLC?
- If not, can the child care provider's income be taxed as business income (e.g. can the rent etc. be deducted from income taxes)?

Thriftylady 04-27-2015 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Sergio:
In California, a licensed small family child care (for up to 6 kids) in a rental home is considered residential- not business- use of the property. So if that's a fact, then

- Can the licensed small family child care in a California rental home be registered as an LLC?
- If not, can the child care provider's income be taxed as business income (e.g. can the rent etc. be deducted from income taxes)?

Not sure about the LLC, but on Federal taxes (not sure about cali state taxes) the rent etc can be deducted on a time/space percentage. This would include utilities used in the daycare, and such. There are special federal forms for this called business use of the home. There are several that go together. In my experience, states go by federal income, so it would carry down to state. But I think California has their own rules lol.

Sergio 04-27-2015 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Thriftylady:
There are special federal forms for this called business use of the home.

Ah, but this is exactly the crux of the issue. According to zoning laws, our child care will be a residential- not business- use of the home.

Thriftylady 04-28-2015 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by Sergio:
Ah, but this is exactly the crux of the issue. According to zoning laws, our child care will be a residential- not business- use of the home.

I am not sure that matters. Hopefully Tom will chime in soon. He is the expert.

Blackcat31 04-28-2015 07:20 AM

Here is a great article about whether or not you should become an LLC or not

http://www.tomcopelandblog.com/2011/...mpany-llc.html

Here is the link to Tom Copelands blog. TONS of great info! Book mark the site as you will reference it often. ;)

http://tomcopelandblog.typepad.com/t...ds-taking-car/

TomCopeland 04-28-2015 07:56 AM

tax status
 

Originally Posted by Sergio:
In California, a licensed small family child care (for up to 6 kids) in a rental home is considered residential- not business- use of the property. So if that's a fact, then

- Can the licensed small family child care in a California rental home be registered as an LLC?
- If not, can the child care provider's income be taxed as business income (e.g. can the rent etc. be deducted from income taxes)?

Establishing an LLC has nothing to do with whether or not the provider is living. So, yes, a provider can set up an LLC in a rental home.

Rent is always deductible.

Sergio 04-28-2015 11:57 AM

Thanks, Tom!
If possible, I'd like to buy one of (your?) e-books that explicitly mentions what you just wrote. Which e-book would you recommend?

TomCopeland 04-29-2015 07:33 AM

books
 

Originally Posted by Sergio:
Thanks, Tom!
If possible, I'd like to buy one of (your?) e-books that explicitly mentions what you just wrote. Which e-book would you recommend?

Only two of my books are available as e-books: Family Child Care Record Keeping Guide and Family Child Care Contracts & Policies.

Sergio 05-01-2015 02:49 PM

Tom,
Sorry that I wasn't clear. I appreciate your free advice, but now would like to pay some money to get a more substantial advice. I could ask a lawyer, but I prefer to buy a book first on this subject. Can you recommend one that explicitly deals with the issue of running an LLC from a rental home in California?

momtomany74 05-01-2015 03:22 PM

Didn't even need to respond, Sergio
Good luck!

TomCopeland 05-01-2015 08:43 PM

rental
 

Originally Posted by Sergio:
Tom,
Sorry that I wasn't clear. I appreciate your free advice, but now would like to pay some money to get a more substantial advice. I could ask a lawyer, but I prefer to buy a book first on this subject. Can you recommend one that explicitly deals with the issue of running an LLC from a rental home in California?

Nolo Press from California has published a lot of legal books. Check them out.

Sergio 05-01-2015 10:08 PM

Tom, you're too modest!
Will this book have all the information I need?
http://www.redleafpress.org/Family-C...book-P919.aspx

TomCopeland 05-02-2015 07:27 PM

legal help
 

Originally Posted by Sergio:
Tom, you're too modest!
Will this book have all the information I need?
http://www.redleafpress.org/Family-C...book-P919.aspx

My book will help explain the differences between the various forms of business structures but it's not a substitute for legal advice that can help you understand the particular rules in your state.


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