I have been wondering the exact same thing! Thank you for asking this question!

I have a 3 1/2 yo who is not potty trained. Parents are working on it, but he does not verbalize when he has to go. It is very hard in daycare. I have him go at the regular times, but his #2 is invariably in his pull-up. He is fighting potty training horribly, and imo just is not ready, although seems old enough to understand.

What have others done, along the same lines as the OP - what exactly IS potty trained and how much effort do you put into doing it? It's really hard with all of the other kids to watch as well.

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