Originally Posted by CountryRoads:
They are 3 and 4. We ended up being inside last night at pick-up, so I had them all ready to go and waiting by the door when dcm came - which is always much smoother.
It's when I don't have them ready to go or if we're outside at pick-up, is when it's mass chaos 
Irregular pick up times? Ugh, that's the worst.
I am very fortunate (depending on your point of view
) that none of mine pick up until after the school bus goes by (4:20). That is our cue to go inside and get ready to go home. Makes things much simpler to plan.