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Cat Herder 03:54 AM 10-28-2020
Is there a website map that shows each region, county and states tier levels or do we just have to take the consultant of the week's word for it?
daycarediva 04:02 AM 10-28-2020
No idea on the map... BUT I was told it went by your school districts poverty levels. 80% free lunch would be Tier1.
When we moved I had to reduce rates (high income to mid income areas) but the change from tier 2 to 1 more than compensated for it.
When we moved I had to reduce rates (high income to mid income areas) but the change from tier 2 to 1 more than compensated for it.
Gemma 04:10 AM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
Is there a website map that shows each region, county and states tier levels or do we just have to take the consultant of the week's word for it?
Mine follow the school district, whatever tier they put the school in, I getIs there a website map that shows each region, county and states tier levels or do we just have to take the consultant of the week's word for it?
Cat Herder 04:10 AM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by daycarediva:
No idea on the map... BUT I was told it went by your school districts poverty levels. 80% free lunch would be Tier1.
When we moved I had to reduce rates (high income to mid income areas) but the change from tier 2 to 1 more than compensated for it.
That is the thing, all 3 of my local schools are well over 80% free lunch but they say my street is tier 2. I have never had anything concrete provided to me to support that claim. It seems shady.No idea on the map... BUT I was told it went by your school districts poverty levels. 80% free lunch would be Tier1.
When we moved I had to reduce rates (high income to mid income areas) but the change from tier 2 to 1 more than compensated for it.
Cat Herder 04:13 AM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by Gemma:
Mine follow the school district, whatever tier they put the school in, I get
Do you know how we can hold them accountable if they are wrong? Where do we go for concrete information?Mine follow the school district, whatever tier they put the school in, I get
Annalee 05:07 AM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
Do you know how we can hold them accountable if they are wrong? Where do we go for concrete information?
Tiers are based on school data or the providers income. My FP 'likes' for all to be on Tier 1 so she explores every avenue to meet that.Do you know how we can hold them accountable if they are wrong? Where do we go for concrete information?
I would definitely stay on this because I think you should qualify for Tier 1.
Good luck!
Blackcat31 07:04 AM 10-28-2020
https://www.fns.usda.gov/cacfp/about-area-eligibility
https://www.fns.usda.gov/areaeligibility
https://www.fns.usda.gov/documentati...e-food-program
https://www.fns.usda.gov/areaeligibility
https://www.fns.usda.gov/documentati...e-food-program
Cat Herder 07:45 AM 10-28-2020
Thank you, BC. 
The new regs make me post a menu and times, keep on file for 6 months, eat the same food within arms length, have seconds of everything on the table and require the unannounced inspector to look over all menus and witness meals, jut like the food program. 
I figured maybe it was time to get paid more for it.
I looked around a bit more and it looks like they are including the percentages from the four private/boarding schools here.
There is no way our families could afford those schools. Most are from out of country. 
I am shocked they knock our stats down to 63% for the district.
Can that be right? I thought only public schools count.
(I was thinking of you all night.
I hope your morning is going well. )
The new regs make me post a menu and times, keep on file for 6 months, eat the same food within arms length, have seconds of everything on the table and require the unannounced inspector to look over all menus and witness meals, jut like the food program. I figured maybe it was time to get paid more for it.
I looked around a bit more and it looks like they are including the percentages from the four private/boarding schools here.
There is no way our families could afford those schools. Most are from out of country. I am shocked they knock our stats down to 63% for the district. Can that be right? I thought only public schools count.
(I was thinking of you all night.
I hope your morning is going well. )
Cat Herder 07:48 AM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by Annalee:
Tiers are based on school data or the providers income. My FP 'likes' for all to be on Tier 1 so she explores every avenue to meet that.
I would definitely stay on this because I think you should qualify for Tier 1.
Good luck!
Thanks! It is really confusing. I need my information in print. I don't trust verbal anything from these folks out here. They don't like to put anything in print. I email, they call. I email "That sounds important, please send me an email."... they ignore me. Tiers are based on school data or the providers income. My FP 'likes' for all to be on Tier 1 so she explores every avenue to meet that.
I would definitely stay on this because I think you should qualify for Tier 1.
Good luck!
Blackcat31 08:15 AM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
Thank you, BC. The new regs make me post a menu and times, keep on file for 6 months, eat the same food within arms length, have seconds of everything on the table and require the unannounced inspector to look over all menus and witness meals, jut like the food program.
I figured maybe it was time to get paid more for it.
I looked around a bit more and it looks like they are including the percentages from the four private/boarding schools here. There is no way our families could afford those schools. Most are from out of country. I am shocked they knock our stats down to 63% for the district.
Can that be right? I thought only public schools count.
Can your families themselves qualify? They can fill out individual income forms and maybe they would individually qualify for the higher reimbursement rate. Thank you, BC.
The new regs make me post a menu and times, keep on file for 6 months, eat the same food within arms length, have seconds of everything on the table and require the unannounced inspector to look over all menus and witness meals, jut like the food program. I figured maybe it was time to get paid more for it.
I looked around a bit more and it looks like they are including the percentages from the four private/boarding schools here.
There is no way our families could afford those schools. Most are from out of country. I am shocked they knock our stats down to 63% for the district. Can that be right? I thought only public schools count.
I don't know much about private schools and their impact in the process but I would think they are not included unless they participate in CACFP too. But I have no idea.
Hopefully there is contact info somewhere in the links where you can call and find out for sure.
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
(I was thinking of you all night. I hope your morning is going well. )
Thank you...I'm hanging in there. (I was thinking of you all night.
I hope your morning is going well. )I'll post more in the private vent thread.
Annalee 08:19 AM 10-28-2020
All school systems are receiving free lunch during the pandemic so you should qualify for sure this year!
Gemma 09:30 AM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
Do you know how we can hold them accountable if they are wrong? Where do we go for concrete information?
I don't know, but I can ask my sponsor if likeDo you know how we can hold them accountable if they are wrong? Where do we go for concrete information?
coloradoprovider 12:55 PM 10-28-2020
If there is another sponsor in your area for the childcare food program, I would call them and ask the question. My sponsor believes it's public school data only. If you want to take it further, contact the USDA. Their criteria should be consistent amongst states as it's a federal agency. I definitely would pursue this as it's a large difference!
Cat Herder 01:09 PM 10-28-2020
Thanks guys! 
I wanted to check before I start making more calls for documents.
I wanted to check before I start making more calls for documents.
Former Teacher 03:33 PM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
Thank you, BC. The new regs make me post a menu and times, keep on file for 6 months, eat the same food within arms length, have seconds of everything on the table and require the unannounced inspector to look over all menus and witness meals, jut like the food program.
I figured maybe it was time to get paid more for it.
I was sitting here reading this and I thought....wait...I thought CH wasn't even on the FP....then I kept on reading...that usually helps before I think random thoughts! Thank you, BC.
The new regs make me post a menu and times, keep on file for 6 months, eat the same food within arms length, have seconds of everything on the table and require the unannounced inspector to look over all menus and witness meals, jut like the food program. I figured maybe it was time to get paid more for it.
Cat Herder 06:38 PM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by Former Teacher:
I was sitting here reading this and I thought....wait...I thought CH wasn't even on the FP....then I kept on reading...that usually helps before I think random thoughts!
I get it. I was sitting here reading this and I thought....wait...I thought CH wasn't even on the FP....then I kept on reading...that usually helps before I think random thoughts!
I keep hearing these other people loving their programs and I have to do all the same things anyway, but I still can't see a way that it will be worth it, here. I re-evaluate every few years in case the kinks have been worked out.
