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Old 01-24-2014, 04:08 PM
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Thank you ALL for your advice and support during this time of learning and growth! I think of you ladies all the time when I'm conducting interviews, dealing with parents, etc. and this week has been a big one!

I asked a few mos back about offering a discounted rate for a family I have contracted 3 days a week but always drop in on Monday and/or Friday! They pay that day or the next if she's making her bi-weekly payment but the unknown part of it has been really annoying even though I just love the family. I would never term for this stuff because I know they would listen and abide by rule changes, especially if I was firm or demanded it. But I have figured the extra $5/day was worth it since I would only be reducing my fees by offering this since they come these days at the full rate anyway. Well I finally bit the bullet and asked mom if she wanted to talk to Grandma about it and see how it would work starting next month. Well she agreed to that starting next month! Woohoo! Yes I am losing $100/mo, BUT today is the perfect example of why I'm doing this! Grandma said yesterday she would bring him after therapy around 12. 12 comes and goes... 1 comes and goes... I figure he fell asleep so she'll bring him when he wakes up but usually communicates it. Then it's almost 2 and mom texts me asking if he was dropped off yet. I told her no so she asked Grandma what was going on and she said he fell asleep so he can just stay home today. I pushed my DS' lunch out, I pushed my DS' nap out and then now she's not even coming? Well I strongly believe had she paid me for today in advance he would have been here awake or not! I told mom that as well. I told her this is precisely why I would prefer a Mon-Fri commitment/prepayment. If she paid me for today anyway and just decided to keep him home... awesome, have a great day! But when I have to wait all day and then NOT get paid because she changed her mind... nope! Not gonna happen anymore! I would also like to create a new contract for this new change and come up with more consistency on drop-offs and pick-ups. I've been very understanding and accommodating and don't charge late fees because they always call me when they're running late, I know they can't control traffic and Mom can't leave early when that happens because she takes the bus from the city. But on Monday grandma was late and didn't call so she paid me an extra $10 because she didn't want me to be mad at her. So I know they KNOW it's inconsiderate to do, but I think Grandma has an easier time than mom does just letting things slide. Like today! I love this family to death so I just want this to work best for everyone! I don't feel comfortable doing $1/minute and my contract says $2 for every 5 mins they're late. So her $10 payment was spot on. Should I just reiterate my policy and that with this FT contract I will be enforcing it once we set up a good schedule for d/o & p/u? I don't mind them forecasting a little later and being early, like 5pm and pick up at 4:30pm to avoid the late fees. My license states my hours are 6am to 5:30pm but I've had kids here past 6pm when parents' schedules changed over the last year. I would like to have pickup BY 6pm.

What would be a good way to word that I would like to be closed by 6pm? I only have 3 families, 1 it wouldn't apply to and the other 2 it would. One pays on an hourly basis for after school care and maybe once every 6wks mom picks up at 6:15pm if dad has to work late or is out of town. I would make exceptions on that time for those rare occasions but would like to include a fee for that. I charge them for 13.5hrs a week which is a 5pm pickup. Dad is here between 4:30-5:30 sometimes depending on traffic so I don't haggle the half hour here and there because there's many times he's here at 4:30pm and I'm still paid til 5pm. What do you think would be a reasonable charge for the care provided after 6pm? $2/5 mins just seems kinda silly now that I think about it.
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:31 PM
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Thank you ALL for your advice and support during this time of learning and growth! I think of you ladies all the time when I'm conducting interviews, dealing with parents, etc. and this week has been a big one!

I asked a few mos back about offering a discounted rate for a family I have contracted 3 days a week but always drop in on Monday and/or Friday! They pay that day or the next if she's making her bi-weekly payment but the unknown part of it has been really annoying even though I just love the family. I would never term for this stuff because I know they would listen and abide by rule changes, especially if I was firm or demanded it. But I have figured the extra $5/day was worth it since I would only be reducing my fees by offering this since they come these days at the full rate anyway. Well I finally bit the bullet and asked mom if she wanted to talk to Grandma about it and see how it would work starting next month. Well she agreed to that starting next month! Woohoo! Yes I am losing $100/mo, BUT today is the perfect example of why I'm doing this! Grandma said yesterday she would bring him after therapy around 12. 12 comes and goes... 1 comes and goes... I figure he fell asleep so she'll bring him when he wakes up but usually communicates it. Then it's almost 2 and mom texts me asking if he was dropped off yet. I told her no so she asked Grandma what was going on and she said he fell asleep so he can just stay home today. I pushed my DS' lunch out, I pushed my DS' nap out and then now she's not even coming? Well I strongly believe had she paid me for today in advance he would have been here awake or not! I told mom that as well. I told her this is precisely why I would prefer a Mon-Fri commitment/prepayment. If she paid me for today anyway and just decided to keep him home... awesome, have a great day! But when I have to wait all day and then NOT get paid because she changed her mind... nope! Not gonna happen anymore! I would also like to create a new contract for this new change and come up with more consistency on drop-offs and pick-ups. I've been very understanding and accommodating and don't charge late fees because they always call me when they're running late, I know they can't control traffic and Mom can't leave early when that happens because she takes the bus from the city. But on Monday grandma was late and didn't call so she paid me an extra $10 because she didn't want me to be mad at her. So I know they KNOW it's inconsiderate to do, but I think Grandma has an easier time than mom does just letting things slide. Like today! I love this family to death so I just want this to work best for everyone! I don't feel comfortable doing $1/minute and my contract says $2 for every 5 mins they're late. So her $10 payment was spot on. Should I just reiterate my policy and that with this FT contract I will be enforcing it once we set up a good schedule for d/o & p/u? I don't mind them forecasting a little later and being early, like 5pm and pick up at 4:30pm to avoid the late fees. My license states my hours are 6am to 5:30pm but I've had kids here past 6pm when parents' schedules changed over the last year. I would like to have pickup BY 6pm.

What would be a good way to word that I would like to be closed by 6pm? I only have 3 families, 1 it wouldn't apply to and the other 2 it would. One pays on an hourly basis for after school care and maybe once every 6wks mom picks up at 6:15pm if dad has to work late or is out of town. I would make exceptions on that time for those rare occasions but would like to include a fee for that. I charge them for 13.5hrs a week which is a 5pm pickup. Dad is here between 4:30-5:30 sometimes depending on traffic so I don't haggle the half hour here and there because there's many times he's here at 4:30pm and I'm still paid til 5pm. What do you think would be a reasonable charge for the care provided after 6pm? $2/5 mins just seems kinda silly now that I think about it.
I think the $2 every 5 minutes after 6pm is a good idea! The child not being dropped off would upset me too!
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:02 PM
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I only offer contracted, pre-paid days and hours. That way there is no confusion and if they decide not to come, I'm paid anyways. And as for the dcf who sometimes is there at 4:30 and sometimes at 5:30, I wouldn't let it slide just because one day it's 4:30 and one day 5:30. They have to be here by the contracted p/u time and if they're early, great. I charge $7 an hour for any part of an hour after their p/up time, if it's scheduled. if it's not scheduled, it's $1 a min. past their contracted p/u time.

As for you wanting to be closed by 6, you could send out a new contract and tell them your "new" hours and that you are closed at 6 and no later. They can sign or not. And it would be totally up to you if you allow someone to stay after. I have a family who occasionally pick up after my 6 closing time, but when they enrolled, I told them that was fine. I don't charge for that, but it was agreed upon at enrollment, they are never here past that time thankfully!
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:41 PM
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The reason they have inconsistent pick up times is because some days mom works and does d/o & p/u and some days his Nana picks up. Nana works from home sometimes and from her office other times. Some days moms works mornings and some days she works afternoons. Originally he only came 2 days a week and it was for socialization and to help Nana while mom worked because Nana took care of him while mom worked and went to school. Dad is gone and not involved. Now it's kind of turned into a free range schedule and being my only FT DCB it hasn't been an issue. But now it's starting to get on my nerves. Nana is super sweet to me, always says wonderful things, but tells mom DCB shouldn't be raised at DC and she shouldn't send him so much BUT then Nana brings him as well on the days she agreed to take care of him originally Mon & Fri because either she works or wants to get stuff done. It's just funny. She's so hesitant to bring him but knows he's happy here, well cared for and she leaves him here more than mom does! Mom picks up by 4:30-5pm on her way from work, occasionally a half day to play while she cleans or something. Nana is the problem more than mom. If Nana is late, Nana will pay the overage. I just don't want her to cause problems if I change my pickup time and enforce a late fee and say he shouldn't come and doesn't help pay her part ya know? I don't know... Just over-thinking it I guess. I would like to have Nana pick up by 6pm or charge a late fee due that day. I may call it an overage fee rather than a late fee. You can choose to stay until 6:30pm but there's a $12 charge, $2 per 5 min. That will encourage a 6pm pickup but if they want to pay me an extra $12 to stay than so be it. It would be worth my time rather than just included in my daily rate especially since I'm discounting the rate. LOL
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The reason they have inconsistent pick up times is because some days mom works and does d/o & p/u and some days his Nana picks up. Nana works from home sometimes and from her office other times. Some days moms works mornings and some days she works afternoons. Originally he only came 2 days a week and it was for socialization and to help Nana while mom worked because Nana took care of him while mom worked and went to school. Dad is gone and not involved. Now it's kind of turned into a free range schedule and being my only FT DCB it hasn't been an issue. But now it's starting to get on my nerves. Nana is super sweet to me, always says wonderful things, but tells mom DCB shouldn't be raised at DC and she shouldn't send him so much BUT then Nana brings him as well on the days she agreed to take care of him originally Mon & Fri because either she works or wants to get stuff done. It's just funny. She's so hesitant to bring him but knows he's happy here, well cared for and she leaves him here more than mom does! Mom picks up by 4:30-5pm on her way from work, occasionally a half day to play while she cleans or something. Nana is the problem more than mom. If Nana is late, Nana will pay the overage. I just don't want her to cause problems if I change my pickup time and enforce a late fee and say he shouldn't come and doesn't help pay her part ya know? I don't know... Just over-thinking it I guess. I would like to have Nana pick up by 6pm or charge a late fee due that day. I may call it an overage fee rather than a late fee. You can choose to stay until 6:30pm but there's a $12 charge, $2 per 5 min. That will encourage a 6pm pickup but if they want to pay me an extra $12 to stay than so be it. It would be worth my time rather than just included in my daily rate especially since I'm discounting the rate. LOL
This situation would drive me crazy. I would not agree to it ever. Set days set time. Its disruptive to the kids and to you.
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