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mountainside13 05:15 PM 04-28-2014
Now they are wanting to ban milk in daycare to reduce childhood obesity!
NoMoreJuice! 05:24 PM 04-28-2014
I only drink almond milk, and that's all I will serve to my daycare kids. In fact, 3/4 of my daycare parents have switched to almond milk at home. Almond milk has more calcium than cow's milk and NO sugar (if you buy the unsweetened variety). Skim milk (that the government wants us to believe is healthy) has 12 grams of sugar in each serving and has been known to cause tooth decay in toddlers!
Fruit juice and milk are two things packed with sugar that have been an unhealthy staple that people believed were good for kids for decades, and it's definitely time to leave those habits behind.
Fruit juice and milk are two things packed with sugar that have been an unhealthy staple that people believed were good for kids for decades, and it's definitely time to leave those habits behind.
Annalee 05:31 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by mountainside13:
Now they are wanting to ban milk in daycare to reduce childhood obesity!
That's crazy! I think kids are sitting inside on technological devices is the problem eating junk food. My generation grew up playing outside ALL DAY only taking time to eat lunch and take a nap. We ate 3 meals a day and did not snack all day. Today, children are eating whatever, whenever and going to bed when they want with NO boundaries or guidance.....not all families but the majority are this way. Milk/fast food are no more responsible for childhood obesity any more than pencils are responsible for misspelled words. Now they are wanting to ban milk in daycare to reduce childhood obesity!
daycare 05:35 PM 04-28-2014
call me odd, I agree. milk is horrible. we are the only species on earth that drink milk past infant. I don't drink dairy, but it's a choice, all 3 of my kids are lactose intolerant, as are many of my DCks. Milk is all pushed due to government $$$$$$$$$$ there are so many better ways to get your calcium.
Drinking a glass of creamed fat, that sound NASTY
Drinking a glass of creamed fat, that sound NASTY
Annalee 05:38 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
call me odd, I agree. milk is horrible. we are the only species on earth that drink milk past infant. I don't drink dairy, but it's a choice, all 3 of my kids are lactose intolerant, as are many of my DCks. Milk is all pushed due to government $$$$$$$$$$ there are so many better ways to get your calcium.
Drinking a glass of creamed fat, that sound NASTY
I don't drink milk either except in cereal but I still do not think it is the main reason for childhood obesity. call me odd, I agree. milk is horrible. we are the only species on earth that drink milk past infant. I don't drink dairy, but it's a choice, all 3 of my kids are lactose intolerant, as are many of my DCks. Milk is all pushed due to government $$$$$$$$$$ there are so many better ways to get your calcium.
Drinking a glass of creamed fat, that sound NASTY
NoMoreJuice! 05:39 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by Annalee:
I don't drink milk either except in cereal but I still do not think it is the main reason for childhood obesity.
True! Eat less, move more=easiest way to prevent childhood obesity!I don't drink milk either except in cereal but I still do not think it is the main reason for childhood obesity.
Bookworm 05:40 PM 04-28-2014
I'm sorry but milk is NOT the problem.
sahm1225 05:41 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by Annalee:
That's crazy! I think kids are sitting inside on technological devices is the problem eating junk food. My generation grew up playing outside ALL DAY only taking time to eat lunch and take a nap. We ate 3 meals a day and did not snack all day. Today, children are eating whatever, whenever and going to bed when they want with NO boundaries or guidance.....not all families but the majority are this way. Milk/fast food are no more responsible for childhood obesity any more than pencils are responsible for misspelled words.
That's crazy! I think kids are sitting inside on technological devices is the problem eating junk food. My generation grew up playing outside ALL DAY only taking time to eat lunch and take a nap. We ate 3 meals a day and did not snack all day. Today, children are eating whatever, whenever and going to bed when they want with NO boundaries or guidance.....not all families but the majority are this way. Milk/fast food are no more responsible for childhood obesity any more than pencils are responsible for misspelled words.
Lol!! At the pencil and misspelled words!
renodeb 05:44 PM 04-28-2014
I don't think its the milk that's making kids fat, its all the fast food, junk food and sitting on there duffs playing video games instead of getting outside to play and run around. I also think that kids are being given way to much milk at home and then there not eating there real food.
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daycare 05:46 PM 04-28-2014
I dont think that it is the main problem but I think that along side of the fact that you can use food stamps at most fast food places, MILK is a huge contributor to child hood obesity, and lets not forget the #1 reason, SCREEN time. kids don't exercise enough anymore.
Annalee 05:47 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by Bookworm:
I'm sorry but milk is NOT the problem.
Childhood obesity is just like any other issue in society today....the blame-game. Everything is always someone else's fault. I feel responsible for my own children to help them grow/develop. To a certain extent I feel responsible to the children in my care during the day, BUT taking away MILK will not solve the childhood obesity problem! Powers that be are trying to dictate every aspect of our lives....where are we headed? I'm sorry but milk is NOT the problem.
SilverSabre25 05:51 PM 04-28-2014
cool. I'd be a lot more keen on getting licensed and on the food program if I wasn't required to serve milk. People drink way too much "other stuff" and not enough water. I don't serve milk except on rare occasions--98% of the time the kids drink water with meals AND snacks. That's IT. And my daycare parents all know it and approve, even overwhelmingly support, this.
If you're going to drink milk, WHOLE is the better way to go, not skim. The fat helps with brain function (yes even in adults) and with feeling full.
Besides, what the hell kinda sense does it make to believe that another animal's breastmilk is healthier for us than our own?
If you're going to drink milk, WHOLE is the better way to go, not skim. The fat helps with brain function (yes even in adults) and with feeling full.
Besides, what the hell kinda sense does it make to believe that another animal's breastmilk is healthier for us than our own?
MissAnn 05:58 PM 04-28-2014
Where did you hear this? Food program? Rumor?
mountainside13 06:15 PM 04-28-2014
My local news. I HATE milk!! Can not stand the taste unless it is an ingredient. When I use milk in cereal I will drain the milk off the spoon before eating it. That's my personal preference. I do not believe that milk is what causing children to be overweight! It's what others have posted. If anything should be banned it should be (IMO) juice from daycare and not milk. So messed up!
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SignMeUp 06:16 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by MissAnn:
Where did you hear this? Food program? Rumor?
That is what I am interested in too.Where did you hear this? Food program? Rumor?
mountainside13 06:20 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
I dont think that it is the main problem but I think that along side of the fact that you can use food stamps at most fast food places, MILK is a huge contributor to child hood obesity, and lets not forget the #1 reason, SCREEN time. kids don't exercise enough anymore.
Really!? You can use food stamps at fast food places?!? That does not make sense! I have seen that a pizza place in town accepts food stamps, they prepare the pizza and you take it home and cook it in your oven. I think it's papa Murphy's?I dont think that it is the main problem but I think that along side of the fact that you can use food stamps at most fast food places, MILK is a huge contributor to child hood obesity, and lets not forget the #1 reason, SCREEN time. kids don't exercise enough anymore.
Annalee 06:22 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by mountainside13:
Really!? You can use food stamps at fast food places?!? That does not make sense! I have seen that a pizza place in town accepts food stamps, they prepare the pizza and you take it home and cook it in your oven. I think it's papa Murphy's?
You can't buy fast food with food stamps here! Really!? You can use food stamps at fast food places?!? That does not make sense! I have seen that a pizza place in town accepts food stamps, they prepare the pizza and you take it home and cook it in your oven. I think it's papa Murphy's?
CraftyMom 06:25 PM 04-28-2014
They recently started accepting state benefits at fast food restaurants here. I thought it was a joke! Nope! They are making it so easy to be obese!
I REALLY don't think milk is making people obese. If you look at the majority of obese people's diet, how much milk do they drink? The people I know that are obese drink SODA!!!! And zero milk!
I REALLY don't think milk is making people obese. If you look at the majority of obese people's diet, how much milk do they drink? The people I know that are obese drink SODA!!!! And zero milk!
SignMeUp 06:29 PM 04-28-2014
But that doesn't talk about banning all milk, right?
Just the higher fat levels, which is already done in the fp.
Just the higher fat levels, which is already done in the fp.
craftymissbeth 06:33 PM 04-28-2014
I don't think that picture you're posting says they're banning milk... just milks that contain more fat.
I agree with everything Silver said and I'd be a happy camper if serving milk was a choice. The amount of milk we serve in daycare is very small compared to the amount they're actually getting at home. Every one of my dck's gets full sippy cups of milk at home... one right after another whenever they ask for it. I'm guessing because it's milk they just consider it healthy.
I don't agree, however, that milk is the cause of childhood obesity. Someone (Blackcat, I think) posted the results of a study once that said childhood obesity is caused by three main things and none were actually related to the actual food that's consumed. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe they were excess screen time, not sitting down and eating as a family, and something else I can't remember.
My family very, very rarely drinks milk and when we do it is always whole. My dck's drink 1% and I cringe every time I buy it. I only serve them the bare minimum required by the food program and never give refills on milk.
I agree with everything Silver said and I'd be a happy camper if serving milk was a choice. The amount of milk we serve in daycare is very small compared to the amount they're actually getting at home. Every one of my dck's gets full sippy cups of milk at home... one right after another whenever they ask for it. I'm guessing because it's milk they just consider it healthy.
I don't agree, however, that milk is the cause of childhood obesity. Someone (Blackcat, I think) posted the results of a study once that said childhood obesity is caused by three main things and none were actually related to the actual food that's consumed. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe they were excess screen time, not sitting down and eating as a family, and something else I can't remember.
My family very, very rarely drinks milk and when we do it is always whole. My dck's drink 1% and I cringe every time I buy it. I only serve them the bare minimum required by the food program and never give refills on milk.
Annalee 06:34 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by CraftyMom:
They recently started accepting state benefits at fast food restaurants here. I thought it was a joke! Nope! They are making it so easy to be obese!
I REALLY don't think milk is making people obese. If you look at the majority of obese people's diet, how much milk do they drink? The people I know that are obese drink SODA!!!! And zero milk!
You go that right! Some plain water would do some people good....along with about 30 minutes of walking a day. Walking can also be a great stress reliever. Not that I do this now, but when I did walk in the evening it seemed to help! They recently started accepting state benefits at fast food restaurants here. I thought it was a joke! Nope! They are making it so easy to be obese!
I REALLY don't think milk is making people obese. If you look at the majority of obese people's diet, how much milk do they drink? The people I know that are obese drink SODA!!!! And zero milk!
mountainside13 06:35 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by SignMeUp:
But that doesn't talk about banning all milk, right?
Just the higher fat levels, which is already done in the fp.
Banning whole milk and 2% milk. The pediatricians (here) say whole milk from 12 months to 2 years old, 2-4 years old get 2%. But that doesn't talk about banning all milk, right?
Just the higher fat levels, which is already done in the fp.
IMO a 12-24 month old should not be getting 1% or skim milk!
drseuss 06:41 PM 04-28-2014
I don't know that cow's milk is to blame for obesity, but I do firmly believe that milk consumption sets us up for diabetes. Totally messes with the blood sugar. Not to mention the hormones. I hate when my own kids drink milk and try to get them to drink my almond milk instead.
Annalee 06:46 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by drseuss:
I don't know that cow's milk is to blame for obesity, but I do firmly believe that milk consumption sets us up for diabetes. Totally messes with the blood sugar. Not to mention the hormones. I hate when my own kids drink milk and try to get them to drink my almond milk instead.
Every thing in every aspect of our lives need moderation. It is a shame that local, state, national powers are governing such a non-trivial thing like the consumption of milk. Whatever happened to "common sense" thinking and being accountable/responsible for one's own self? Like I said earlier, there is a "reason/rationale/blame" for every thing. I don't know that cow's milk is to blame for obesity, but I do firmly believe that milk consumption sets us up for diabetes. Totally messes with the blood sugar. Not to mention the hormones. I hate when my own kids drink milk and try to get them to drink my almond milk instead.
mountainside13 06:48 PM 04-28-2014
I serve milk at breakfast and lunch (1 serving then water), Water for am and pm snack. Also water for drinking in between eating. I do not serve milk all day. Just drinking milk isn't healthy plus it would be expensive!
drseuss 06:52 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by Annalee:
Every thing in every aspect of our lives need moderation. It is a shame that local, state, national powers are governing such a non-trivial thing like the consumption of milk. Whatever happened to "common sense" thinking and being accountable/responsible for one's own self? Like I said earlier, there is a "reason/rationale/blame" for every thing.
I agree with this line of thinking 110%! My comment was more just to agree with the idea that milk is not the ideal choice, not that it is any of the government's business.Every thing in every aspect of our lives need moderation. It is a shame that local, state, national powers are governing such a non-trivial thing like the consumption of milk. Whatever happened to "common sense" thinking and being accountable/responsible for one's own self? Like I said earlier, there is a "reason/rationale/blame" for every thing.
Annalee 06:53 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by drseuss:
I agree with this line of thinking 110%! My comment was more just to agree with the idea that milk is not the ideal choice, not that it is any of the government's business.
I agree with this line of thinking 110%! My comment was more just to agree with the idea that milk is not the ideal choice, not that it is any of the government's business.
craftymissbeth 06:56 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by Annalee:
Every thing in every aspect of our lives need moderation. It is a shame that local, state, national powers are governing such a non-trivial thing like the consumption of milk. Whatever happened to "common sense" thinking and being accountable/responsible for one's own self? Like I said earlier, there is a "reason/rationale/blame" for every thing.
Except that the government has had a huge part in ensuring that we DO drink milk... for example, forcing dairy farmers to pay to fund the "Got Milk?" campaign.Every thing in every aspect of our lives need moderation. It is a shame that local, state, national powers are governing such a non-trivial thing like the consumption of milk. Whatever happened to "common sense" thinking and being accountable/responsible for one's own self? Like I said earlier, there is a "reason/rationale/blame" for every thing.
Maria2013 06:57 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by Annalee:
That's crazy! I think kids are sitting inside on technological devices is the problem eating junk food. My generation grew up playing outside ALL DAY only taking time to eat lunch and take a nap. We ate 3 meals a day and did not snack all day. Today, children are eating whatever, whenever and going to bed when they want with NO boundaries or guidance.....not all families but the majority are this way. Milk/fast food are no more responsible for childhood obesity any more than pencils are responsible for misspelled words.
That's crazy! I think kids are sitting inside on technological devices is the problem eating junk food. My generation grew up playing outside ALL DAY only taking time to eat lunch and take a nap. We ate 3 meals a day and did not snack all day. Today, children are eating whatever, whenever and going to bed when they want with NO boundaries or guidance.....not all families but the majority are this way. Milk/fast food are no more responsible for childhood obesity any more than pencils are responsible for misspelled words.
I have no doubt that milk isn't what it used to be, but if I wanted to cut down on child obesity, I wouldn't start there...ask the kids what they eat in the car on the way to your house...ask them what they do when they are not with you
SignMeUp 07:11 PM 04-28-2014
Food program is 2% or whole for under 2 years, 1% or skim for over 2 year olds.
I think that's right. I actually think only in terms of cap color
I think that's right. I actually think only in terms of cap color
Annalee 07:12 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by craftymissbeth:
Except that the government has had a huge part in ensuring that we DO drink milk... for example, forcing dairy farmers to pay to fund the "Got Milk?" campaign.
I think the government has intervened way too much with milk and cutting back school lunch portions to nothing! My boys come home starving every day. They get to choose juice or milk in 4 oz cartons. They get one itty bitty chicken sandwich with maybe 3 bites on it...the portions are rediculous all in the name of curbing obesity. 4 Oz. is NOT much to drink for a 10 and 12 year old. My boys do drink water as well. This 2% for this age, 1% for this age and whole milk for this age is crazy. I have a 4 yr old family member whom is obese, so I do sympathize with the issue, but she is constantly eating tootsie rolls and gum... I am concerned with each family being accountable for some of these children's issues. BUT, I do not want anyone to misunderstand me...there are children with health-related issues that are obese and I am not talking about those children in my posts. My heart goes out to those children. I just want all parents to do their part in turning this obesity issue around without the government dictating our meals! Except that the government has had a huge part in ensuring that we DO drink milk... for example, forcing dairy farmers to pay to fund the "Got Milk?" campaign.
NoMoreJuice! 07:13 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by drseuss:
milk is not the ideal choice, not that it is any of the government's business.
milk is not the ideal choice, not that it is any of the government's business.
EntropyControlSpecialist 08:48 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by SilverSabre25:
cool. I'd be a lot more keen on getting licensed and on the food program if I wasn't required to serve milk. People drink way too much "other stuff" and not enough water. I don't serve milk except on rare occasions--98% of the time the kids drink water with meals AND snacks. That's IT. And my daycare parents all know it and approve, even overwhelmingly support, this.
If you're going to drink milk, WHOLE is the better way to go, not skim. The fat helps with brain function (yes even in adults) and with feeling full.
Besides, what the hell kinda sense does it make to believe that another animal's breastmilk is healthier for us than our own?
I am right there with ya (except I am forced to serve the garbage since I am on the food program and NEED the extra ~$300 it brings in!).cool. I'd be a lot more keen on getting licensed and on the food program if I wasn't required to serve milk. People drink way too much "other stuff" and not enough water. I don't serve milk except on rare occasions--98% of the time the kids drink water with meals AND snacks. That's IT. And my daycare parents all know it and approve, even overwhelmingly support, this.
If you're going to drink milk, WHOLE is the better way to go, not skim. The fat helps with brain function (yes even in adults) and with feeling full.
Besides, what the hell kinda sense does it make to believe that another animal's breastmilk is healthier for us than our own?
ihop 08:56 PM 04-28-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
call me odd, I agree. milk is horrible. we are the only species on earth that drink milk past infant. I don't drink dairy, but it's a choice, all 3 of my kids are lactose intolerant, as are many of my DCks. Milk is all pushed due to government $$$$$$$$$$ there are so many better ways to get your calcium.
Drinking a glass of creamed fat, that sound NASTY
call me odd, I agree. milk is horrible. we are the only species on earth that drink milk past infant. I don't drink dairy, but it's a choice, all 3 of my kids are lactose intolerant, as are many of my DCks. Milk is all pushed due to government $$$$$$$$$$ there are so many better ways to get your calcium.
Drinking a glass of creamed fat, that sound NASTY
Mister Sir Husband 09:14 PM 04-28-2014
Ok, so I am not a child .. or am I now or have I ever been obese.. but I do love milk. I always have. In fact I drink about a gallon a day.
Starburst 12:36 AM 04-29-2014
It seems like every health expert is on the band wagon of either being 100% pro or 100% con. What ever happened to moderation?
Don't get me wrong, I think it was wrong for them to basically, in a sense, "push" providers on food program to serve milk where there can be lots of issues such as allergies/intolerance (I'm L.I. and my brother was born allergic to milk) or personal beliefs (such as vegans) and risk losing that funding for that child's meals (or getting penalized) because that was the only issue for their meal. And of course (what I guess they are now just starting to realize) the added calorie consumption was always something I was always concerned about; I personally try to avoid "drinking" calories as much as possible. I mostly drink water or unsweetened tea (and would hope to pass on to my children, since weight issues do run in our family).
But I don't think they should just now say "No milk period" because there are some meals where milk is a more appropriate beverage (such as with PB&J). Plus what about w/ cereal? or is that not going to be an optional meal choice either?
Don't get me wrong, I think it was wrong for them to basically, in a sense, "push" providers on food program to serve milk where there can be lots of issues such as allergies/intolerance (I'm L.I. and my brother was born allergic to milk) or personal beliefs (such as vegans) and risk losing that funding for that child's meals (or getting penalized) because that was the only issue for their meal. And of course (what I guess they are now just starting to realize) the added calorie consumption was always something I was always concerned about; I personally try to avoid "drinking" calories as much as possible. I mostly drink water or unsweetened tea (and would hope to pass on to my children, since weight issues do run in our family).
But I don't think they should just now say "No milk period" because there are some meals where milk is a more appropriate beverage (such as with PB&J). Plus what about w/ cereal? or is that not going to be an optional meal choice either?
Annalee 03:54 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Starburst:
Don't get me wrong, I think it was wrong for them to basically, in a sense, "push" providers on food program to serve milk where there can be lots of issues such as allergies/intolerance (I'm L.I. and my brother was born allergic to milk) or personal beliefs (such as vegans) and risk losing that funding for that child's meals (or getting penalized) because that was the only issue for their meal. And of course (what I guess they are now just starting to realize) the added calorie consumption was always something I was always concerned about; I personally try to avoid "drinking" calories as much as possible. I mostly drink water or unsweetened tea (and would hope to pass on to my children, since weight issues do run in our family).
But I don't think they should just now say "No milk period" because there are some meals where milk is a more appropriate beverage (such as with PB&J). Plus what about w/ cereal? or is that not going to be an optional meal choice either?
If I wasn't on the Food Program, I would still have to submit to licensing my menu to make sure I was meeting the requirements of each meal component. If a child can not tolerate mile, we are allowed to have a dr excuse posted with the menu. Not sure about religious preferences but I assume that could be arranged as well. Either way, I am stuck with serving milk much of the day. Don't get me wrong, I think it was wrong for them to basically, in a sense, "push" providers on food program to serve milk where there can be lots of issues such as allergies/intolerance (I'm L.I. and my brother was born allergic to milk) or personal beliefs (such as vegans) and risk losing that funding for that child's meals (or getting penalized) because that was the only issue for their meal. And of course (what I guess they are now just starting to realize) the added calorie consumption was always something I was always concerned about; I personally try to avoid "drinking" calories as much as possible. I mostly drink water or unsweetened tea (and would hope to pass on to my children, since weight issues do run in our family).
But I don't think they should just now say "No milk period" because there are some meals where milk is a more appropriate beverage (such as with PB&J). Plus what about w/ cereal? or is that not going to be an optional meal choice either?
Laurel 04:45 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by mountainside13:
Now they are wanting to ban milk in daycare to reduce childhood obesity!
In my day it was Dr. Spock, okay I'm old. Now they are wanting to ban milk in daycare to reduce childhood obesity!
Isn't it Dr. Sears who is the new popular doc? Not really sure.
Anyway, here is what he says about milk.
http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/fee...ional-benefits
Laurel
debbiedoeszip 05:06 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Annalee:
That's crazy! I think kids are sitting inside on technological devices is the problem eating junk food. My generation grew up playing outside ALL DAY only taking time to eat lunch and take a nap. We ate 3 meals a day and did not snack all day. Today, children are eating whatever, whenever and going to bed when they want with NO boundaries or guidance.....not all families but the majority are this way. Milk/fast food are no more responsible for childhood obesity any more than pencils are responsible for misspelled words.
ITA with this. When I was a kid in the 70s, the food we ate was just as sugar and sodium filled, but kids were very, very active. I also believe that it's a massive amount of inactivity that is leading some children today to become obese. Not so much what they are eating.That's crazy! I think kids are sitting inside on technological devices is the problem eating junk food. My generation grew up playing outside ALL DAY only taking time to eat lunch and take a nap. We ate 3 meals a day and did not snack all day. Today, children are eating whatever, whenever and going to bed when they want with NO boundaries or guidance.....not all families but the majority are this way. Milk/fast food are no more responsible for childhood obesity any more than pencils are responsible for misspelled words.
When I was a kid, the only times that tv was interesting for kids was at noon (Flintstones/Spiderman), Saturday mornings (cartoons!), and early Sunday evenings (Disney!). The rest of the time it was boring grown up shows. It wasn't until the 80s that some networks started airing a couple of hours of cartoons after school (that I recall).
Video games (in the 70s) were something found only in arcades and you needed money from parents to play them (and good luck getting that money, LOL).
Kids played outside every daytime hour it wasn't pouring rain or blizzarding, and played hard inside when it was crappy out.
KidGrind 05:39 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
I dont think that it is the main problem but I think that along side of the fact that you can use food stamps at most fast food places, MILK is a huge contributor to child hood obesity, and lets not forget the #1 reason, SCREEN time. kids don't exercise enough anymore.
What percentage of the U.S. population is on food stamps?I dont think that it is the main problem but I think that along side of the fact that you can use food stamps at most fast food places, MILK is a huge contributor to child hood obesity, and lets not forget the #1 reason, SCREEN time. kids don't exercise enough anymore.
I highly doubt that’s the problem. I wonder how food stamps even crept into this topic. What’s next WIC?
**bursts out laughing**
I love milk. I have no problem with persons who do not like milk. All adults have a choice to make for themselves and hopefully what is best for their children. I actually order milk from a farm/creamery. They don’t give their cows hormones or antibiotics which I appreciate.
Unregistered 05:44 AM 04-29-2014
as far as soy milk
I heard that too much soy, especially in little boys boys is not good
something about estrogen and the gmo in soybeans.
I heard that too much soy, especially in little boys boys is not good
something about estrogen and the gmo in soybeans.
Play Care 05:45 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by :
Either way, I am stuck with serving milk much of the day
I guess I don't understand this. I serve just two 4 oz cups of milk a day - at breakfast and lunch. The rest of the day I only serve water. I never serve juice. If they drink that, they get water. If they don't drink it, the cup is washed, sanitized and ready for when they are thirsty and want water.Either way, I am stuck with serving milk much of the day
Play Care 05:51 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by :
I love milk. I have no problem with persons who do not like milk. All adults have a choice to make for themselves and hopefully what is best for their children. I actually order milk from a farm/creamery. They don’t give their cows hormones or antibiotics which I appreciate.
Me too. I am fortunate to have a local dairy that is highly regarded. All my milk products come from here. I would much rather serve this than say, soy milk.I love milk. I have no problem with persons who do not like milk. All adults have a choice to make for themselves and hopefully what is best for their children. I actually order milk from a farm/creamery. They don’t give their cows hormones or antibiotics which I appreciate.
Annalee 05:57 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Play Care:
I guess I don't understand this. I serve just two 4 oz cups of milk a day - at breakfast and lunch. The rest of the day I only serve water. I never serve juice. If they drink that, they get water. If they don't drink it, the cup is washed, sanitized and ready for when they are thirsty and want water.
My Food Program gives me pre-made monthly menus and milk is on there for meals and snacks...only 3 days per week of snacks call for 100% juice...the rest is milk.. I guess I don't understand this. I serve just two 4 oz cups of milk a day - at breakfast and lunch. The rest of the day I only serve water. I never serve juice. If they drink that, they get water. If they don't drink it, the cup is washed, sanitized and ready for when they are thirsty and want water.
craftymissbeth 05:59 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Play Care:
I guess I don't understand this. I serve just two 4 oz cups of milk a day - at breakfast and lunch. The rest of the day I only serve water. I never serve juice. If they drink that, they get water. If they don't drink it, the cup is washed, sanitized and ready for when they are thirsty and want water.
I guess I don't understand this. I serve just two 4 oz cups of milk a day - at breakfast and lunch. The rest of the day I only serve water. I never serve juice. If they drink that, they get water. If they don't drink it, the cup is washed, sanitized and ready for when they are thirsty and want water.
melilley 06:00 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Maria2013:
I have no doubt that milk isn't what it used to be, but if I wanted to cut down on child obesity, I wouldn't start there...ask the kids what they eat in the car on the way to your house...ask them what they do when they are not with you
I have no doubt that milk isn't what it used to be, but if I wanted to cut down on child obesity, I wouldn't start there...ask the kids what they eat in the car on the way to your house...ask them what they do when they are not with you
Yesterday my 1.5 yo dcb came in with dcm. He had something in his mouth and dcm made him spit it out and proceeds to tell the 1.5 yo to ask me if it was OK to eat it here..dcb can't talk mind you, and then says it was a hard candy! It was a jolly rancher type of candy! I said no way and dcm says well dcd gave it to him, which also means that she let him drive in the car with it!
I have another dcb who often comes in eating chips and dcm says he just loves his chips.
Blackcat31 06:07 AM 04-29-2014
Limiting, banning and/or frowning upon the use of "one" particular food product as the cause of anything is an asinine thought concept.
Stating that the consumption of dairy (milk in particular) is contributing to the obesity epidemic is basically giving people a free pass to once again blame something for their own personal choices.
Like Mister Sir Husband and Debbiedoeszip said.... previous generations ate real sugar and all sorts of unhealthy foods as well as milk with most meals and there was no obesity epidemic.
My family purchased milk from the local dairy farm. I had to shake the bottle each morning to mix the cream in before pouring a glass.
Whether people believe in drinking milk or not also has no weight in this as each person should have that personal choice.
Pointing the finger at ONE product as the source of obesity is like saying being in daycare is the source of ALL childhood behavior issues.
Stating that the consumption of dairy (milk in particular) is contributing to the obesity epidemic is basically giving people a free pass to once again blame something for their own personal choices.
Like Mister Sir Husband and Debbiedoeszip said.... previous generations ate real sugar and all sorts of unhealthy foods as well as milk with most meals and there was no obesity epidemic.
My family purchased milk from the local dairy farm. I had to shake the bottle each morning to mix the cream in before pouring a glass.
Whether people believe in drinking milk or not also has no weight in this as each person should have that personal choice.
Pointing the finger at ONE product as the source of obesity is like saying being in daycare is the source of ALL childhood behavior issues.
melilley 06:07 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Mister Sir Husband:
Ok, so I am not a child .. or am I now or have I ever been obese.. but I do love milk. I always have. In fact I drink about a gallon a day.
Ok, so I am not a child .. or am I now or have I ever been obese.. but I do love milk. I always have. In fact I drink about a gallon a day.
Ewwww..I can't stand milk, but growing up, my mom made us drink milk, whole milk at that and I am not obese either, in fact I was too skinny growing up, actually until I had my son 1.5 years ago..and I'm 35...lol
snbauser 06:17 AM 04-29-2014
Food program already does this. It is whole or 2% for under 2 years old and 1% or skim for over 2. It's not banning it completely. I serve milk with breakfast and lunch only. Snack only contains juice one day a week.
melilley 06:21 AM 04-29-2014
I personally cannot stand milk! But I grew up drinking it and my kids drink it. None of us are obese. I agree with Star and others that moderation is a key word, as with most things in life and blaming obesity on any one thing is absurd. I like what Annalee said..lol
Here we have milk for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. For snacks we have water and occasionally 100% juice and during the day, water is available to drink whenever.
Here we have milk for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. For snacks we have water and occasionally 100% juice and during the day, water is available to drink whenever.
Meyou 07:15 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by KidGrind:
What percentage of the U.S. population is on food stamps?
I highly doubt that’s the problem. I wonder how food stamps even crept into this topic. What’s next WIC?
**bursts out laughing**
I love milk. I have no problem with persons who do not like milk. All adults have a choice to make for themselves and hopefully what is best for their children. I actually order milk from a farm/creamery. They don’t give their cows hormones or antibiotics which I appreciate.
47 million Americans in 2013 or 20% of the population. I'm not commenting on the connection between food stamps and obesity but I did want to point out that a significant portion of Americans are on food stamps.What percentage of the U.S. population is on food stamps?
I highly doubt that’s the problem. I wonder how food stamps even crept into this topic. What’s next WIC?
**bursts out laughing**
I love milk. I have no problem with persons who do not like milk. All adults have a choice to make for themselves and hopefully what is best for their children. I actually order milk from a farm/creamery. They don’t give their cows hormones or antibiotics which I appreciate.
There are connections between lower income brackets and poor food choices however especially in the some states where there are large "food drought" areas where little to no fresh product is available at an affordable price. Cheap food is often over processed, high in calories, high in fat and low in nutrients.
Naptime yet? 07:22 AM 04-29-2014
The food program here in MD requires cow's milk only. I just asked about this, what if a child is allergic & drinks soy or almond or rice milk....I was told on the Food Program I would not be able to claim that meal, anything except cow's milk is unclaimable. What BS.
Laurel 07:24 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Limiting, banning and/or frowning upon the use of "one" particular food product as the cause of anything is an asinine thought concept.
Stating that the consumption of dairy (milk in particular) is contributing to the obesity epidemic is basically giving people a free pass to once again blame something for their own personal choices.
Like Mister Sir Husband and Debbiedoeszip said.... previous generations ate real sugar and all sorts of unhealthy foods as well as milk with most meals and there was no obesity epidemic.
My family purchased milk from the local dairy farm. I had to shake the bottle each morning to mix the cream in before pouring a glass.
Whether people believe in drinking milk or not also has no weight in this as each person should have that personal choice.
Pointing the finger at ONE product as the source of obesity is like saying being in daycare is the source of ALL childhood behavior issues.
Agree. I am also weary of the "If one is on food stamps, the government should decide their diet like they can't make these decisions for themselves."Limiting, banning and/or frowning upon the use of "one" particular food product as the cause of anything is an asinine thought concept.
Stating that the consumption of dairy (milk in particular) is contributing to the obesity epidemic is basically giving people a free pass to once again blame something for their own personal choices.
Like Mister Sir Husband and Debbiedoeszip said.... previous generations ate real sugar and all sorts of unhealthy foods as well as milk with most meals and there was no obesity epidemic.
My family purchased milk from the local dairy farm. I had to shake the bottle each morning to mix the cream in before pouring a glass.
Whether people believe in drinking milk or not also has no weight in this as each person should have that personal choice.
Pointing the finger at ONE product as the source of obesity is like saying being in daycare is the source of ALL childhood behavior issues.
Naptime yet? 07:24 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Meyou:
47 million Americans in 2013 or 20% of the population. I'm not commenting on the connection between food stamps and obesity but I did want to point out that a significant portion of Americans are on food stamps.
There are connections between lower income brackets and poor food choices however especially in the some states where there are large "food drought" areas where little to no fresh product is available at an affordable price. Cheap food is often over processed, high in calories, high in fat and low in nutrients.
There was a story about this on NPR several months ago, the link between income & cheap food, made me stop & think.47 million Americans in 2013 or 20% of the population. I'm not commenting on the connection between food stamps and obesity but I did want to point out that a significant portion of Americans are on food stamps.
There are connections between lower income brackets and poor food choices however especially in the some states where there are large "food drought" areas where little to no fresh product is available at an affordable price. Cheap food is often over processed, high in calories, high in fat and low in nutrients.
Laurel 07:30 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Naptime yet?:
The food program here in MD requires cow's milk only. I just asked about this, what if a child is allergic & drinks soy or almond or rice milk....I was told on the Food Program I would not be able to claim that meal, anything except cow's milk is unclaimable. What BS.
I don't get why there needs to be a food program at all Unless the family is eligible for food stamps. Why does the government need to pay for any food for families that can afford to buy it themselves?The food program here in MD requires cow's milk only. I just asked about this, what if a child is allergic & drinks soy or almond or rice milk....I was told on the Food Program I would not be able to claim that meal, anything except cow's milk is unclaimable. What BS.
sharlan 07:32 AM 04-29-2014
We haven't been allowed to serve whole or 2% milk in CA for a couple of years now. It has to be 1% milk and a maximum of 4 oz of pure juice a day.
My kids get 4 oz of oj and 4 oz of apple juice a week. They get milk for breakfast and lunch, water the rest of the day. I leave their water cups on the table and they drink them as they want.
My kids get 4 oz of oj and 4 oz of apple juice a week. They get milk for breakfast and lunch, water the rest of the day. I leave their water cups on the table and they drink them as they want.
Annalee 07:42 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Naptime yet?:
The food program here in MD requires cow's milk only. I just asked about this, what if a child is allergic & drinks soy or almond or rice milk....I was told on the Food Program I would not be able to claim that meal, anything except cow's milk is unclaimable. What BS.
A doctor's note would work here in TN if a child was allergic. The food program here in MD requires cow's milk only. I just asked about this, what if a child is allergic & drinks soy or almond or rice milk....I was told on the Food Program I would not be able to claim that meal, anything except cow's milk is unclaimable. What BS.
melilley 07:52 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Annalee:
A doctor's note would work here in TN if a child was allergic.
Here too, I would ask again!A doctor's note would work here in TN if a child was allergic.
jenboo 07:54 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Naptime yet?:
The food program here in MD requires cow's milk only. I just asked about this, what if a child is allergic & drinks soy or almond or rice milk....I was told on the Food Program I would not be able to claim that meal, anything except cow's milk is unclaimable. What BS.
I dont even need a doctors note here. I just need a note from the parent stating their preference for milk.The food program here in MD requires cow's milk only. I just asked about this, what if a child is allergic & drinks soy or almond or rice milk....I was told on the Food Program I would not be able to claim that meal, anything except cow's milk is unclaimable. What BS.
Play Care 08:00 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Annalee:
My Food Program gives me pre-made monthly menus and milk is on there for meals and snacks...only 3 days per week of snacks call for 100% juice...the rest is milk..
Yeah, that wouldn't fly here. My Food Program gives me pre-made monthly menus and milk is on there for meals and snacks...only 3 days per week of snacks call for 100% juice...the rest is milk..
I am wondering though if just because they have those drinks on the menu that you must serve them, or they are on there for providers who may think serving Kool-aid is appropriate? KWIM? So if you crossed out a milk for snack and put in say, "hard boiled egg, apple slices and water" that would be creditable because you've met the components. Otherwise if they say on Monday you must serve oatmeal, blueberries and milk so you have to, that seems more like an employee rather than a business owner. I'd have a major issue with that.
Play Care 08:01 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by jenboo:
I dont even need a doctors note here. I just need a note from the parent stating their preference for milk.
Same in NYS.I dont even need a doctors note here. I just need a note from the parent stating their preference for milk.
Annalee 08:08 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Play Care:
Yeah, that wouldn't fly here.
I am wondering though if just because they have those drinks on the menu that you must serve them, or they are on there for providers who may think serving Kool-aid is appropriate? KWIM? So if you crossed out a milk for snack and put in say, "hard boiled egg, apple slices and water" that would be creditable because you've met the components. Otherwise if they say on Monday you must serve oatmeal, blueberries and milk so you have to, that seems more like an employee rather than a business owner. I'd have a major issue with that.
I have swapped out fruits, vegetables, etc...I have never tried to substitute anything for milk but I guess I could..never really asked fp or thought about it. Yeah, that wouldn't fly here.
I am wondering though if just because they have those drinks on the menu that you must serve them, or they are on there for providers who may think serving Kool-aid is appropriate? KWIM? So if you crossed out a milk for snack and put in say, "hard boiled egg, apple slices and water" that would be creditable because you've met the components. Otherwise if they say on Monday you must serve oatmeal, blueberries and milk so you have to, that seems more like an employee rather than a business owner. I'd have a major issue with that.
Laurel 08:28 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by debbiedoeszip:
ITA with this. When I was a kid in the 70s, the food we ate was just as sugar and sodium filled, but kids were very, very active. I also believe that it's a massive amount of inactivity that is leading some children today to become obese. Not so much what they are eating.
When I was a kid, the only times that tv was interesting for kids was at noon (Flintstones/Spiderman), Saturday mornings (cartoons!), and early Sunday evenings (Disney!). The rest of the time it was boring grown up shows. It wasn't until the 80s that some networks started airing a couple of hours of cartoons after school (that I recall).
Video games (in the 70s) were something found only in arcades and you needed money from parents to play them (and good luck getting that money, LOL).
Kids played outside every daytime hour it wasn't pouring rain or blizzarding, and played hard inside when it was crappy out.
That's true BUT also more parents were home to supervise their children. Now more work so they have no choice but to have their children in after school or daycare.ITA with this. When I was a kid in the 70s, the food we ate was just as sugar and sodium filled, but kids were very, very active. I also believe that it's a massive amount of inactivity that is leading some children today to become obese. Not so much what they are eating.
When I was a kid, the only times that tv was interesting for kids was at noon (Flintstones/Spiderman), Saturday mornings (cartoons!), and early Sunday evenings (Disney!). The rest of the time it was boring grown up shows. It wasn't until the 80s that some networks started airing a couple of hours of cartoons after school (that I recall).
Video games (in the 70s) were something found only in arcades and you needed money from parents to play them (and good luck getting that money, LOL).
Kids played outside every daytime hour it wasn't pouring rain or blizzarding, and played hard inside when it was crappy out.
I'm really not sure if all these parents have to work or not. My husband says probably but I wonder. I'm not so sure.
Laurel
KidGrind 09:30 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Meyou:
47 million Americans in 2013 or 20% of the population. I'm not commenting on the connection between food stamps and obesity but I did want to point out that a significant portion of Americans are on food stamps.
There are connections between lower income brackets and poor food choices however especially in the some states where there are large "food drought" areas where little to no fresh product is available at an affordable price. Cheap food is often over processed, high in calories, high in fat and low in nutrients.
I’ve seen obese children in ALL socio-economic brackets. It’s more like between 14% to 15% of the population, by the way.47 million Americans in 2013 or 20% of the population. I'm not commenting on the connection between food stamps and obesity but I did want to point out that a significant portion of Americans are on food stamps.
There are connections between lower income brackets and poor food choices however especially in the some states where there are large "food drought" areas where little to no fresh product is available at an affordable price. Cheap food is often over processed, high in calories, high in fat and low in nutrients.
My3cents 09:33 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by SignMeUp:
Food program is 2% or whole for under 2 years, 1% or skim for over 2 year olds.
I think that's right. I actually think only in terms of cap color
food program is whole milk under twoFood program is 2% or whole for under 2 years, 1% or skim for over 2 year olds.
I think that's right. I actually think only in terms of cap color
and then not whole milk for over two
debbiedoeszip 10:02 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Laurel:
That's true BUT also more parents were home to supervise their children. Now more work so they have no choice but to have their children in after school or daycare.
I'm really not sure if all these parents have to work or not. My husband says probably but I wonder. I'm not so sure.
Laurel
I'm not really sure how this relates to the point I was making.That's true BUT also more parents were home to supervise their children. Now more work so they have no choice but to have their children in after school or daycare.
I'm really not sure if all these parents have to work or not. My husband says probably but I wonder. I'm not so sure.
Laurel
mountainside13 10:39 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Limiting, banning and/or frowning upon the use of "one" particular food product as the cause of anything is an asinine thought concept.
Stating that the consumption of dairy (milk in particular) is contributing to the obesity epidemic is basically giving people a free pass to once again blame something for their own personal choices.
Like Mister Sir Husband and Debbiedoeszip said.... previous generations ate real sugar and all sorts of unhealthy foods as well as milk with most meals and there was no obesity epidemic.
My family purchased milk from the local dairy farm. I had to shake the bottle each morning to mix the cream in before pouring a glass.
Whether people believe in drinking milk or not also has no weight in this as each person should have that personal choice.
Pointing the finger at ONE product as the source of obesity is like saying being in daycare is the source of ALL childhood behavior issues.
Limiting, banning and/or frowning upon the use of "one" particular food product as the cause of anything is an asinine thought concept.
Stating that the consumption of dairy (milk in particular) is contributing to the obesity epidemic is basically giving people a free pass to once again blame something for their own personal choices.
Like Mister Sir Husband and Debbiedoeszip said.... previous generations ate real sugar and all sorts of unhealthy foods as well as milk with most meals and there was no obesity epidemic.
My family purchased milk from the local dairy farm. I had to shake the bottle each morning to mix the cream in before pouring a glass.
Whether people believe in drinking milk or not also has no weight in this as each person should have that personal choice.
Pointing the finger at ONE product as the source of obesity is like saying being in daycare is the source of ALL childhood behavior issues.
Meyou 10:41 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by KidGrind:
I’ve seen obese children in ALL socio-economic brackets. It’s more like between 14% to 15% of the population, by the way.
Of course there are children that are obese in all brackets. I’ve seen obese children in ALL socio-economic brackets. It’s more like between 14% to 15% of the population, by the way.
I never said there weren't. The website I looked at said 20%. I'm pretty sure that point I made is still valid at 14%. That is a significant percentage of the population regardless of it's impact on the current discussion.
Thegrayghost1966 11:18 AM 04-29-2014
From what I've read, they now say whole milk is better. More omega 3's especially in organic. It also keeps you full longer and you need the fat to absorb the fat soluble vitamins. Therefore, it doesn't cause obesity.
Here is one article I have read. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kristi...b_4421306.html
Everything in moderation. They used to say butter was bad and eat margarine. Now steer clear of margarine.
Here is one article I have read. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kristi...b_4421306.html
Everything in moderation. They used to say butter was bad and eat margarine. Now steer clear of margarine.
drseuss 11:26 AM 04-29-2014
Yes! And the fat content in the whole milk is apparently what keeps blood sugar levels from spiking, causing pre-diabetic states in some people. Sometimes I sneak whole milk to my daycare kids instead of the 1 % that I am supposed to give them.
Play Care 11:30 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by drseuss:
Yes! And the fat content in the whole milk is apparently what keeps blood sugar levels from spiking, causing pre-diabetic states in some people. Sometimes I sneak whole milk to my daycare kids instead of the 1 % that I am supposed to give them.
I actually started having a cup of whole milk with dinner a while back. I was finding I would eat and be starving in an hour. The whole milk keeps me feeling full. Yes! And the fat content in the whole milk is apparently what keeps blood sugar levels from spiking, causing pre-diabetic states in some people. Sometimes I sneak whole milk to my daycare kids instead of the 1 % that I am supposed to give them.
I believe that the only milk we should be drinking (*if*we drink it at all) is whole milk.
drseuss 11:33 AM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Play Care:
I actually started having a cup of whole milk with dinner a while back. I was finding I would eat and be starving in an hour. The whole milk keeps me feeling full.
I believe that the only milk we should be drinking (*if*we drink it at all) is whole milk.
This is me, too. My husband and boys drink whole, I drink almond. They feel like they're missing something if they stick to almond milk, so I just buy whole for them. I really wish that I could be giving the daycare kids whole, too, but the food program here says skim or 1.I actually started having a cup of whole milk with dinner a while back. I was finding I would eat and be starving in an hour. The whole milk keeps me feeling full.
I believe that the only milk we should be drinking (*if*we drink it at all) is whole milk.
Laurel 03:48 PM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by debbiedoeszip:
I'm not really sure how this relates to the point I was making.
Oh I guess it did sound weird, sorry.I'm not really sure how this relates to the point I was making.
What I was getting at is that it seemed easier back in the 70's (when my children were young) to keep children active. It seems like fewer moms were working outside the home so mom would send them outside or take them to the park or whatever. It seems like with both parents working, less parent to child time, more electronic gadgets to distract, etc. not to mention no internet back then (at least that I remember) to constantly tell parents that they were weren't keeping up with the current parenting trends that it just seems harder for this generation of parents.
I'm not sure if this fits with your point or not but that was what I was thinking about when I wrote it. Hope this clears things up.
Laurel
Laurel 04:01 PM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Play Care:
I actually started having a cup of whole milk with dinner a while back. I was finding I would eat and be starving in an hour. The whole milk keeps me feeling full.
I believe that the only milk we should be drinking (*if*we drink it at all) is whole milk.
Wow, I have that problem at lunch. I just can't seem to get filled up. I am going to try that. I actually started having a cup of whole milk with dinner a while back. I was finding I would eat and be starving in an hour. The whole milk keeps me feeling full.
I believe that the only milk we should be drinking (*if*we drink it at all) is whole milk.
Laurel
Cradle2crayons 04:55 PM 04-29-2014
I only serve whole milk. Period. But they only get it for breakfast here. Then they get water.
And flame me now, sometimes I make home made lemonade... Sometimes I even give them sweet tea... And gasp even Kool aid very occasionally.
Everything in moderation. But I only do while milk. My kids get calcium in other ways.
And flame me now, sometimes I make home made lemonade... Sometimes I even give them sweet tea... And gasp even Kool aid very occasionally.
Everything in moderation. But I only do while milk. My kids get calcium in other ways.
SilverSabre25 06:57 PM 04-29-2014
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
I only serve whole milk. Period. But they only get it for breakfast here. Then they get water.
And flame me now, sometimes I make home made lemonade... Sometimes I even give them sweet tea... And gasp even Kool aid very occasionally.
Everything in moderation. But I only do while milk. My kids get calcium in other ways.
Pssh, no flames from me. My own kids get all that stuff. Even chocolate milk! We have some inthe fridge right now. And I just bought a 4-pack of Capri suns from Costco because my kids like them at various times. I only serve whole milk. Period. But they only get it for breakfast here. Then they get water.
And flame me now, sometimes I make home made lemonade... Sometimes I even give them sweet tea... And gasp even Kool aid very occasionally.
Everything in moderation. But I only do while milk. My kids get calcium in other ways.
AND OMG I KNOW ABOUT THE CALCIUM. Calcium comes from other sources. Not just cow milk. It's silly.
Play Care 03:24 AM 04-30-2014
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
I only serve whole milk. Period. But they only get it for breakfast here. Then they get water.
And flame me now, sometimes I make home made lemonade... Sometimes I even give them sweet tea... And gasp even Kool aid very occasionally.
Everything in moderation. But I only do while milk. My kids get calcium in other ways.
No flames here, My own kids get those things in moderation. I don't give it to my dc kids because most of them get plenty of sugary treats at home without me adding to itI only serve whole milk. Period. But they only get it for breakfast here. Then they get water.
And flame me now, sometimes I make home made lemonade... Sometimes I even give them sweet tea... And gasp even Kool aid very occasionally.
Everything in moderation. But I only do while milk. My kids get calcium in other ways.
CraftyMom 05:49 AM 04-30-2014
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
I only serve whole milk. Period. But they only get it for breakfast here. Then they get water.
And flame me now, sometimes I make home made lemonade... Sometimes I even give them sweet tea... And gasp even Kool aid very occasionally.
Everything in moderation. But I only do while milk. My kids get calcium in other ways.
No flames here I only serve whole milk. Period. But they only get it for breakfast here. Then they get water.
And flame me now, sometimes I make home made lemonade... Sometimes I even give them sweet tea... And gasp even Kool aid very occasionally.
Everything in moderation. But I only do while milk. My kids get calcium in other ways.
Angelsj 06:13 AM 04-30-2014
Originally Posted by Play Care:
No flames here, My own kids get those things in moderation. I don't give it to my dc kids because most of them get plenty of sugary treats at home without me adding to it
Exactly, they get a lot of crap at home. But I serve only whole milk, and only at lunch. The rest of the day they get water, except a cup (4 oz) of apple juice as a treat about once a week. No flames here, My own kids get those things in moderation. I don't give it to my dc kids because most of them get plenty of sugary treats at home without me adding to it
I do give them popsicles in the summer, and even ice cream. They are kids. I don't want them having a bunch of garbage, but a little treat now and then won't hurt them.
No flames here either.
Actually, this issue is exactly my problem with the food program, and why I am not on it. I will not serve 1% milk to the children and I will not serve milk as often as they want it served.
Cradle2crayons 07:20 AM 04-30-2014
Originally Posted by Angelsj:
Exactly, they get a lot of crap at home. But I serve only whole milk, and only at lunch. The rest of the day they get water, except a cup (4 oz) of apple juice as a treat about once a week.
I do give them popsicles in the summer, and even ice cream. They are kids. I don't want them having a bunch of garbage, but a little treat now and then won't hurt them.
No flames here either.
Actually, this issue is exactly my problem with the food program, and why I am not on it. I will not serve 1% milk to the children and I will not serve milk as often as they want it served.
Lol I serve Popsicles and ice cream too!! My kids really don't get stuff like that at home. One does. The others not so much. But even if they did, a Popsicle isn't going to kill them.Exactly, they get a lot of crap at home. But I serve only whole milk, and only at lunch. The rest of the day they get water, except a cup (4 oz) of apple juice as a treat about once a week.
I do give them popsicles in the summer, and even ice cream. They are kids. I don't want them having a bunch of garbage, but a little treat now and then won't hurt them.
No flames here either.
Actually, this issue is exactly my problem with the food program, and why I am not on it. I will not serve 1% milk to the children and I will not serve milk as often as they want it served.
Laurel 09:37 AM 04-30-2014
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
Lol I serve Popsicles and ice cream too!! My kids really don't get stuff like that at home. One does. The others not so much. But even if they did, a Popsicle isn't going to kill them.
Lol I serve Popsicles and ice cream too!! My kids really don't get stuff like that at home. One does. The others not so much. But even if they did, a Popsicle isn't going to kill them.
melilley 11:08 AM 04-30-2014
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
Lol I serve Popsicles and ice cream too!! My kids really don't get stuff like that at home. One does. The others not so much. But even if they did, a Popsicle isn't going to kill them.
I serve popsicles here too, except I usually make them using 100% juice or juice from the cans of fruit (if it's packed in 100% juice) and also yogurt or applesauce pops. I bought popsicle molds and the kids love them and it's cheaper than buying popsicles! Just a cheap idea Lol I serve Popsicles and ice cream too!! My kids really don't get stuff like that at home. One does. The others not so much. But even if they did, a Popsicle isn't going to kill them.
I occasionally serve cookies too.
Cradle2crayons 11:11 AM 04-30-2014
Originally Posted by melilley:
I serve popsicles here too, except I usually make them using 100% juice or juice from the cans of fruit (if it's packed in 100% juice) and also yogurt or applesauce pops. I bought popsicle molds and the kids love them and it's cheaper than buying popsicles! Just a cheap idea
I do serve cookies too.
GASPPPPPPPPPP cookies????? Oh the horrors!!! Lol.I serve popsicles here too, except I usually make them using 100% juice or juice from the cans of fruit (if it's packed in 100% juice) and also yogurt or applesauce pops. I bought popsicle molds and the kids love them and it's cheaper than buying popsicles! Just a cheap idea
I do serve cookies too.
melilley 11:12 AM 04-30-2014
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
GASPPPPPPPPPP cookies????? Oh the horrors!!! Lol.
Tell me about it..lol GASPPPPPPPPPP cookies????? Oh the horrors!!! Lol.
Only in the afternoon though
Annalee 11:13 AM 04-30-2014
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
GASPPPPPPPPPP cookies????? Oh the horrors!!! Lol.
Let's throw in some chips and homemade cheese dip with cupcakes which is what a mom brought for a birthday party this afternoon....and YES, i am eating with them....love cheese dip! GASPPPPPPPPPP cookies????? Oh the horrors!!! Lol.
Blackcat31 11:17 AM 04-30-2014
Originally Posted by melilley:
I serve popsicles here too, except I usually make them using 100% juice or juice from the cans of fruit (if it's packed in 100% juice) and also yogurt or applesauce pops. I bought popsicle molds and the kids love them and it's cheaper than buying popsicles! Just a cheap idea
I occasionally serve cookies too.
I serve popsicles here too, except I usually make them using 100% juice or juice from the cans of fruit (if it's packed in 100% juice) and also yogurt or applesauce pops. I bought popsicle molds and the kids love them and it's cheaper than buying popsicles! Just a cheap idea
I occasionally serve cookies too.
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
GASPPPPPPPPPP cookies????? Oh the horrors!!! Lol.
I serve cookies too AND count them as snack. GASPPPPPPPPPP cookies????? Oh the horrors!!! Lol.
You are allowed to serve things like cookies and cake and claim them as credible ......just not every day.
As for the popsicles and ice cream.... I don't see any reason you can't serve those things AFTER the meal components are already satisfied.
Anything above the required parts of a meal should be your choice to serve or not serve.
melilley 11:26 AM 04-30-2014
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
I serve cookies too AND count them as snack.
You are allowed to serve things like cookies and cake and claim them as credible ......just not every day.
As for the popsicles and ice cream.... I don't see any reason you can't serve those things AFTER the meal components are already satisfied.
Anything above the required parts of a meal should be your choice to serve or not serve.
I knew that and it really surprises me, actually there are quite a few things that are creditable to serve that surprise me! Poptarts, donuts, and pastries just to name a few!I serve cookies too AND count them as snack.
You are allowed to serve things like cookies and cake and claim them as credible ......just not every day.
As for the popsicles and ice cream.... I don't see any reason you can't serve those things AFTER the meal components are already satisfied.
Anything above the required parts of a meal should be your choice to serve or not serve.