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RachelDaycare 08:22 AM 06-06-2011
I have a little girl three and a half. She has been potty trained for over a year. She has started pooping when we go outside in her underwear. I had her sit on the potty before we went out and then asked her numerous times while outside if she had to go. All the times no, it is time to come in and she said she pooped. I am soooo frustrated. She is doing it at home too but they don't seem very concerned
help please
Rachel
help please
Rachel
Live and Learn 08:28 AM 06-06-2011
She is not potty trained.
IMO she should go back into diapers.
I don't do poopy pull ups or underwear.
IMO she should go back into diapers.
I don't do poopy pull ups or underwear.
Sunshine44 08:30 AM 06-06-2011
Yep, I'd ask the parents to supply some diapers until she can get it under control. Also, maybe have her checked at the doctor?
laundrymom 09:31 AM 06-06-2011
Originally Posted by Live and Learn:
She is not potty trained.
IMO she should go back into diapers.
I don't do poopy pull ups or underwear.
This is my vote.She is not potty trained.
IMO she should go back into diapers.
I don't do poopy pull ups or underwear.
RachelDaycare 10:01 AM 06-06-2011
From the couple of conversations I have had with mom here is what I have learned
the dad has Chron's and the girl has been tested when she had some issues a year or so ago.
Then the mom told me that when she was little they were somewhere a few times where there were no bathroom facilities and therefore they let the child go outside. So that when she was younger every time they went out she would take off her diaper and poop.
She is very bright, very active, gets into stuff alot and I have to pace myself to not be after her every minute.
She sometimes struggles in play situations listening to her friends words. In other words she is very independant.
I am always so careful to not say anything to a child to shame them or embarrass them. I know from past experience that making a big deal about potty issues really become power struggles.
It's never easy is it?
Rachel
the dad has Chron's and the girl has been tested when she had some issues a year or so ago.
Then the mom told me that when she was little they were somewhere a few times where there were no bathroom facilities and therefore they let the child go outside. So that when she was younger every time they went out she would take off her diaper and poop.
She is very bright, very active, gets into stuff alot and I have to pace myself to not be after her every minute.
She sometimes struggles in play situations listening to her friends words. In other words she is very independant.
I am always so careful to not say anything to a child to shame them or embarrass them. I know from past experience that making a big deal about potty issues really become power struggles.
It's never easy is it?
Rachel
Live and Learn 10:07 AM 06-06-2011
Originally Posted by RachelDaycare:
From the couple of conversations I have had with mom here is what I have learned
the dad has Chron's and the girl has been tested when she had some issues a year or so ago.
Then the mom told me that when she was little they were somewhere a few times where there were no bathroom facilities and therefore they let the child go outside. So that when she was younger every time they went out she would take off her diaper and poop.
She is very bright, very active, gets into stuff alot and I have to pace myself to not be after her every minute.
She sometimes struggles in play situations listening to her friends words. In other words she is very independant.
I am always so careful to not say anything to a child to shame them or embarrass them. I know from past experience that making a big deal about potty issues really become power struggles.
It's never easy is it?
Rachel
I am not saying she isn't bright. From the couple of conversations I have had with mom here is what I have learned
the dad has Chron's and the girl has been tested when she had some issues a year or so ago.
Then the mom told me that when she was little they were somewhere a few times where there were no bathroom facilities and therefore they let the child go outside. So that when she was younger every time they went out she would take off her diaper and poop.
She is very bright, very active, gets into stuff alot and I have to pace myself to not be after her every minute.
She sometimes struggles in play situations listening to her friends words. In other words she is very independant.
I am always so careful to not say anything to a child to shame them or embarrass them. I know from past experience that making a big deal about potty issues really become power struggles.
It's never easy is it?
Rachel
I wouldn't make a big deal about it either. I would just be matter of fact privately with her. Tell her she will wear diapers for awhile since she is pooping in her panties.
Easy Peasy. NOT PUNITATIVE! If she is not potty trained ( and she isn't ) she should be in diapers.
WImom 12:36 PM 06-06-2011
I think I would put her in a diaper/pull up when going outside until 2 weeks of her not pooping when outside.
Good Luck, hope it's just a phase.
Good Luck, hope it's just a phase.
wdmmom 01:01 PM 06-06-2011
Is she pooping at naptime as well? What if you don't go outside? Is she pooping during an indoor activity?
RachelDaycare 02:34 PM 06-06-2011
no she only poops when we are outside. I like the idea of coming in every half hour to try and go. I personally feel it is an attention seeking behavior. I spoke to her mom about it and told her I wanted to have consequences. Her mom said go for it. While I was talking with mom she ran out the door. I told her to stay on the porch. I look out to check on her and she is running around the vehicles. So her mom ran out and scolded her. Three year olds are quite the tickets aren't they
Rachel
Rachel
wdmmom 02:39 PM 06-06-2011
Perhaps it's the fresh air and the freedom to run. I would make her sit on the pot for 15 minutes before activities.
OR
Treat it as a reward and tell her if she goes poop, she can go outside.
No poop, no outdoor activities...at least not without a diaper on!
OR
Treat it as a reward and tell her if she goes poop, she can go outside.
No poop, no outdoor activities...at least not without a diaper on!
RachelDaycare 03:18 PM 06-06-2011
thanks for all the advice. I think that the fresh air and running around might have something to do with it. Maybe we can do some gross motor stuff inside before we go out so that if that is the reason she can go before we go out.
I really try to live in the solution rather than try to make the problem go away. Does that make sense?
She isn't the easiest child but I have to say that I love kids that have some spunk. Not always easy for us to deal with but I think it can carry them later in life
Rachel
I really try to live in the solution rather than try to make the problem go away. Does that make sense?
She isn't the easiest child but I have to say that I love kids that have some spunk. Not always easy for us to deal with but I think it can carry them later in life
Rachel
Former Teacher 06:47 PM 06-06-2011
Originally Posted by WImom:
I think I would put her in a diaper/pull up when going outside until 2 weeks of her not pooping when outside.
Good Luck, hope it's just a phase.
Totally agree!I think I would put her in a diaper/pull up when going outside until 2 weeks of her not pooping when outside.
Good Luck, hope it's just a phase.
The little boy I nanny for just turned 3 in January and was pee pee trained but would still poop his underwear. He would just stand there and do it right in front of me and/or parents.
We take daily trips to the park. One time we JUST got to the park and he did it in his underwear. We walked right back and I told him that we were not going to park that because of him pooping in his pants. Then I started to put a diaper on him everyday that we went to the park. I don't believe in pull ups but thats another thread
Anyway, for Easter Grandma mailed him a bath toy. One day the boy said to his father, I want to play with my bath toy. The father said you can play with your bath toy when you start going poopie in the potty. The boy said "I will right now!" Yeah right.....lo and behold...he did!
Next day: Daddy was leaving for work and he asked him if he can have his bath toy during bath again. Daddy said if you don't go poopie in your pants then yes. Again he said I will go right now and he did!
Has been poopie trained since!
Mom_of_two 08:24 PM 06-06-2011
I agree, pull ups or diapers. I follow my policy for ALL kids despite any different circumstances! No undies til accident free- home and here- for two weeks.
RachelDaycare 04:22 AM 06-08-2011
My little pooper girl just got here. Her poor mom, she is so stressed out about this. I asked how she did yesterday and she had an accident. I asked was it outside or inside. She said inside just outside the bathroom door where she was playing. I told her at this point I don't think we should consider them "accidents" She said in front of the kid she is just plain lazy
I told her I felt it was an attention seeking behavior. The mom must of told her twelve times in the few minutes she was here, no accidents right! If you listen to Rachel and don't have any accidents I will take you to the store and buy you a treat. Well I am not going to be responsible"listen" wise to whether she gets a treat or not. Not my job
So here we go, eyes forward
I am not going to be after this kid every ten minutes to see if she needs to go poop, I think that she would love that kind of attention
Rachel
I told her I felt it was an attention seeking behavior. The mom must of told her twelve times in the few minutes she was here, no accidents right! If you listen to Rachel and don't have any accidents I will take you to the store and buy you a treat. Well I am not going to be responsible"listen" wise to whether she gets a treat or not. Not my job
So here we go, eyes forward
I am not going to be after this kid every ten minutes to see if she needs to go poop, I think that she would love that kind of attention
Rachel
kidkair 05:50 AM 06-08-2011
If it's attention seeking I would give as little attention as possible when she has and 'accident'. As soon as she informed me she went poop I would say 'thank you for telling me' and I would take her to the bathroom and clean her up. I would not look her in the eye. I would not talk to her again. Once she was all cleaned up and ready again I would look her in the eye and tell her to let me know she when she needs to go potty again. Any time she told me she needed to go and was successful on the potty I would sing songs and chat away and give hugs/high fives and lots of praise and attention even if it was just pee. She needs lots of attention for success on the potty still so she feels more comfortable on the potty.
From what you wrote I think part of her problem is that she feels more comfortable and relaxed outside since that's one of the places her parents let her go in her early potty training. If the attention thing didn't work I'd just put a diaper on her to go outside and praise like crazy if it was still clean when returning inside.
From what you wrote I think part of her problem is that she feels more comfortable and relaxed outside since that's one of the places her parents let her go in her early potty training. If the attention thing didn't work I'd just put a diaper on her to go outside and praise like crazy if it was still clean when returning inside.
nannyde 07:02 AM 06-08-2011
Originally Posted by RachelDaycare:
My little pooper girl just got here. Her poor mom, she is so stressed out about this. I asked how she did yesterday and she had an accident. I asked was it outside or inside. She said inside just outside the bathroom door where she was playing. I told her at this point I don't think we should consider them "accidents" She said in front of the kid she is just plain lazy
I told her I felt it was an attention seeking behavior. The mom must of told her twelve times in the few minutes she was here, no accidents right! If you listen to Rachel and don't have any accidents I will take you to the store and buy you a treat. Well I am not going to be responsible"listen" wise to whether she gets a treat or not. Not my job
So here we go, eyes forward
I am not going to be after this kid every ten minutes to see if she needs to go poop, I think that she would love that kind of attention
Rachel
Did she come in diapers or pullups? It doesn't matter how upset the mom is. It doesn't matter what words she says to you about it or the words she says to the kid about not doing it. What matters is the kid is pooping her pants without protection. My little pooper girl just got here. Her poor mom, she is so stressed out about this. I asked how she did yesterday and she had an accident. I asked was it outside or inside. She said inside just outside the bathroom door where she was playing. I told her at this point I don't think we should consider them "accidents" She said in front of the kid she is just plain lazy
I told her I felt it was an attention seeking behavior. The mom must of told her twelve times in the few minutes she was here, no accidents right! If you listen to Rachel and don't have any accidents I will take you to the store and buy you a treat. Well I am not going to be responsible"listen" wise to whether she gets a treat or not. Not my job
So here we go, eyes forward
I am not going to be after this kid every ten minutes to see if she needs to go poop, I think that she would love that kind of attention
Rachel
Part of being potty trained is not needing attention. Being able to go potty without an adult involved is just as big of a part of potty training as peeing in the pot.
Don't be fooled by words. Just look at what she is doing and what needs to be done to protect your equipment AND YOUR TIME. The time it takes to clean up the mess must be considered in ADDITION to her weekly fee. If she reverts to where she is just not trained than they either need to pay for additional services and cleaning or they need to put her back into diapers until she can do it on her own.
Using the word accident implies there is a future where it won't happen. This is not an accident. It is a kid who is pooping her pants. It doesn't have anything to do with bad luck or a mistake and it is NOT a teachable moment. It just is a kid who is pooping somewhere else besides the potty. Nothing more nothing less.
RachelDaycare 08:09 AM 06-08-2011
thanks you guys,
What I did today was when they got here, I had them sit at the table and play with the wooden pegs. I was pleasant and visited with her while I did dishes. After breakfast I asked her to please go pee before we go out. No mention of pooping. She pooped in the toilet and I let her choose a sticker. I didn't make a big deal of it and went about our day. We went out and every half hour we came in for a potty break.
So far so good.
Rachel
What I did today was when they got here, I had them sit at the table and play with the wooden pegs. I was pleasant and visited with her while I did dishes. After breakfast I asked her to please go pee before we go out. No mention of pooping. She pooped in the toilet and I let her choose a sticker. I didn't make a big deal of it and went about our day. We went out and every half hour we came in for a potty break.
So far so good.
Rachel