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daycare 08:01 AM 02-27-2014
Not too sure if some of you recall a situation where one of my families pulled their older child from my care to send them to private preschool. Well now the family wants back into my care and was offering to pay me what they are paying the school, which is almost 3 times my rate.

I gave parents a proposal and said that I would be willing to do it, but only under the conditions that it was a minimum of 6 month commitment.

Parents came back to me on Tuesday and now of course said that they only want to pay $350 extra a month. NOT what they had originally told me. It is still more, but I just don't feel good about how all of a sudden they decide that they want to come back and that they are the ones who pulled with the mentality of lets see if the grass is greener on the other side syndrome.

I think that I would feel like a push over if I did it and want to say no.

Thoughts???
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Blackcat31 08:08 AM 02-27-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
Not too sure if some of you recall a situation where one of my families pulled their older child from my care to send them to private preschool. Well now the family wants back into my care and was offering to pay me what they are paying the school, which is almost 3 times my rate.

I gave parents a proposal and said that I would be willing to do it, but only under the conditions that it was a minimum of 6 month commitment.

Parents came back to me on Tuesday and now of course said that they only want to pay $350 extra a month. NOT what they had originally told me. It is still more, but I just don't feel good about how all of a sudden they decide that they want to come back and that they are the ones who pulled with the mentality of lets see if the grass is greener on the other side syndrome.

I think that I would feel like a push over if I did it and want to say no.

Thoughts???
From what I read on the original thread, the ONLY reason you (and other posters) said to do it (take them back) was for the money....

If they are taking the money aspect away now, there is NO way I would agree.

I personally wouldn't have agreed for the money but if that was what was making the deal sweet, what'd the point now?

$350 a month broken down is roughly $17 a day....$1.90 more an hour.
Is it worth it to you?

THAT ^^^ is really all that matters.
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hope 08:10 AM 02-27-2014
Tell them no. What choice do they have? They can send the child back to the private preschool at a high cost and the child will not flourish there. Or they can try another center or home daycare with the unknown. You didn't want this family, they wanted you! Tell them you agreed to do this foe the amount that they previously stated and not a penny less.
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Unregistered 08:11 AM 02-27-2014
Since they rescinded their offer, and changed their mind once again (essentially saying they know you provide a better environment for their child, but YOU are not worth the $$$), I would rescind my offer to watch him again.
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daycare 08:12 AM 02-27-2014
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
From what I read on the original thread, the ONLY reason you (and other posters) said to do it (take them back) was for the money....

If they are taking the money aspect away now, there is NO way I would agree.

I personally wouldn't have agreed for the money but if that was what was making the deal sweet, what'd the point now?

$350 a month broken down is roughly $17 a day....$1.90 more an hour.
Is it worth it to you?

THAT ^^^ is really all that matters.
Seeing how you broke it down that far, no way, not worth it.

My DH said that it makes me look greedy and I said how, I am not the one who offered it in the first place.

Well, I can't see why I should help them, yes money was the only reason and that reason is moot, so NO is the answer.
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butterfly 08:23 AM 02-27-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
Seeing how you broke it down that far, no way, not worth it.

My DH said that it makes me look greedy and I said how, I am not the one who offered it in the first place.

Well, I can't see why I should help them, yes money was the only reason and that reason is moot, so NO is the answer.

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sahm1225 06:11 PM 02-27-2014
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Since they rescinded their offer, and changed their mind once again (essentially saying they know you provide a better environment for their child, but YOU are not worth the $$$), I would rescind my offer to watch him again.
This.

You considered it because of what they offered. What's their reasoning for changing what they originally offered?
I would say NO. They came to YOU. They need you. You don't need them.
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daycare 06:13 PM 02-27-2014
Originally Posted by sahm1225:
This.

You considered it because of what they offered. What's their reasoning for changing what they originally offered?
I would say NO. They came to YOU. They need you. You don't need them.
update.... I said NO. I told them that I only considered it for the money because it would make up for the loss that I took when they pulled out.
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

They pulled their other child.

Which I am ok with. I have others waiting on the spots right now...

Oh well, I hope they find what they are looking for......
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Unregistered 07:56 PM 02-27-2014
Interesting play on their part.

Seems impulsive, or rather tantrumish.

I hope your spots fill quickly.
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Josiegirl 03:01 AM 02-28-2014
Good choice on your part. Too bad they didn't get their way and found out things aren't always better 'over there'.
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mountainside13 08:14 AM 02-28-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
update.... I said NO. I told them that I only considered it for the money because it would make up for the loss that I took when they pulled out.
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

They pulled their other child.

Which I am ok with. I have others waiting on the spots right now...

Oh well, I hope they find what they are looking for......
Sounds very manipulative to me. Hope you fill the spots quickly!
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daycare 08:32 AM 02-28-2014
I agree they are acting like children and trying to manipulate me, not going to happen.

DCM already sent me an email saying she over reacted and that they are really sorry can they at least keep the other child here.

I was pretty mad last night, so I did not respond yet, but the answer will be NO.

They showed their true colors and I don't care to work with people like that.
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Crazy8 08:35 AM 02-28-2014
Hope you fill the spots quickly!!! I was one who said to do it initially but yeah, coming back and changing the terms would be a big fat no from me too. Is it mean to say I hope they regret their hasty decision, something tells me they will!
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countrymom 08:43 AM 02-28-2014
do you kinda wonder if something else was going on at the private daycare that they suddenly removed the child.

also, good play on your part, it was like they were the puppet master and dangling the money infront of you to see if you would bite.
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daycare 08:48 AM 02-28-2014
Originally Posted by countrymom:
do you kinda wonder if something else was going on at the private daycare that they suddenly removed the child.

also, good play on your part, it was like they were the puppet master and dangling the money infront of you to see if you would bite.
the child is still attending, they wanted to pull the child before the 2nd quarter to avoid paying the next quarterly payment to the school.

Yes I agree I think they felt in control of the situation using the additional money. I am not sure what I have learned from this other than never take past clients back regardless of how much they want to pay me.
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Blackcat31 08:53 AM 02-28-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
I agree they are acting like children and trying to manipulate me, not going to happen.

DCM already sent me an email saying she over reacted and that they are really sorry can they at least keep the other child here.

I was pretty mad last night, so I did not respond yet, but the answer will be NO.

They showed their true colors and I don't care to work with people like that.
Wow~ I can't say I am surprised that they behaved so childishly but I sort of am.

I am glad that you were able to see their true colors before re-enrolling their child again.

The mom is again showing her "real" self by e-mailing you that she over reacted. I would be super worried that every time they didn't get their way, they would over react and pull....which is so childish and so not fair to their child(ren)

Let me know what you say in response to them. It will be interesting to see how they react depending on what you are going to do. (take them or not take them).

Hang in there.... not all parents are like this.
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Brustkt 12:16 PM 02-28-2014
Wow! That 'humble pie' didn't go down so well did it?!

I would be very happy to see them move on! Hate parents who think they control OUR business.

Good riddance and good luck!

Do their children over-react and throw fits when they don't get what they want? High maintenance! Bye bye!!!
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TwinKristi 12:30 PM 02-28-2014
I would say sorry, I already contacted people on my waiting list when you pulled Johnny yesterday. Explain that you run a business, not a revolving door of emotional manipulation. Good luck finding someone else!!
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craftymissbeth 12:31 PM 02-28-2014
Originally Posted by TwinKristi:
I would say sorry, I already contacted people on my waiting list when you pulled Johnny yesterday. Explain that you run a business, not a revolving door of emotional manipulation. Good luck finding someone else!!

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daycare 01:19 PM 02-28-2014
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Wow~ I can't say I am surprised that they behaved so childishly but I sort of am.

I am glad that you were able to see their true colors before re-enrolling their child again.

The mom is again showing her "real" self by e-mailing you that she over reacted. I would be super worried that every time they didn't get their way, they would over react and pull....which is so childish and so not fair to their child(ren)

Let me know what you say in response to them. It will be interesting to see how they react depending on what you are going to do. (take them or not take them).

Hang in there.... not all parents are like this.
I am not too surprised either. They moved the older kid for "status" purposes, they told me with their words that they wanted their child to have more and that the child outgrew my program. I should have just reminded them of that, but my fault I got blinded by money, shame on me.

I will let you know what response I get when I send the email. I just sat down for the first time today, so it is email time...........I hate this part of the biz.

why can't people just be fair...,......
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NeedaVaca 01:15 PM 03-03-2014
How did it go?
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EntropyControlSpecialist 04:17 PM 03-03-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
I am not too surprised either. They moved the older kid for "status" purposes, they told me with their words that they wanted their child to have more and that the child outgrew my program. I should have just reminded them of that, but my fault I got blinded by money, shame on me.

I will let you know what response I get when I send the email. I just sat down for the first time today, so it is email time...........I hate this part of the biz.

why can't people just be fair...,......
When you are the primary earner it is easy to think how helpful additional income would be for your family.

Many hugs.
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daycare 08:48 AM 03-04-2014
after a few email exchanges, both of the kids are here. I got the original rate that they offered me and I got a raise with the little one. The DCM has not stopped saying sorry, but we shall see.

This whole week we started a trail week for the older to make sure that he still fits into our group, the parents still have him enrolled at the other place until I say the final yes or no.

hopefully things turn out ok.
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TwinKristi 10:36 AM 03-04-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
after a few email exchanges, both of the kids are here. I got the original rate that they offered me and I got a raise with the little one. The DCM has not stopped saying sorry, but we shall see.

This whole week we started a trail week for the older to make sure that he still fits into our group, the parents still have him enrolled at the other place until I say the final yes or no.

hopefully things turn out ok.
Wow! Go you!!! I'm glad she's sorry and realized what she did! Hope things work out!
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daycare 11:15 AM 03-04-2014
Originally Posted by TwinKristi:
Wow! Go you!!! I'm glad she's sorry and realized what she did! Hope things work out!
I cant help but feel jaded by it. I am feeling not so good about the dcm now. I think she may have shown her true colors and now that she has done this I may not be able to let it go. I know I should, but you know how it just taints you a bit when someone does something like this to you..,.
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TwinKristi 11:24 AM 03-04-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
I cant help but feel jaded by it. I am feeling not so good about the dcm now. I think she may have shown her true colors and now that she has done this I may not be able to let it go. I know I should, but you know how it just taints you a bit when someone does something like this to you..,.
Absolutely! She did show you how spiteful she could be. As long as you're covered by your contract (did you write up a new one for these rate changes?) then do what you can! Sometimes no amount of money can make up for the crap people put you through. You now know she has the potential of being a real B!
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