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Becky 01:45 PM 05-17-2016
My nephew is going to a new day care comes home everyday with scratches bruises but even worse it's only his first year her and he has gotten hand foot n mouth disease more than 5 times I'm going to change his school but what can I do for the other kids parents that have the same problem who can I call about the cleanliness and wellbeing of kids 
. Thank you in advance
. Thank you in advance
Mike 04:32 PM 05-17-2016
If you think something should be reported, do a search for child protection and your city and you should find something, or just call your local police and they will know what to do.
heyhun77 08:33 PM 05-17-2016
Originally Posted by Becky:
My nephew is going to a new day care comes home everyday with scratches bruises but even worse it's only his first year her and he has gotten hand foot n mouth disease more than 5 times I'm going to change his school but what can I do for the other kids parents that have the same problem who can I call about the cleanliness and wellbeing of kids. Thank you in advance
Are the scratches and bruises from the normal course of being a child? Children get bumped and scratched a lot in the typical course of an active day of play. They fall, they run into things/other children, they are generally not aware of their surroundings and therefore get bumps and bruises. I'm not saying that there aren't times when something is going on because there are enough news articles telling us about the things that do happen but make sure that what you are seeing is something more than typical badges of childcare. As for the hand foot and mouth, it is a virus that can be acquired anywhere, not just at daycare. People are generally not careful about covering their coughs, washing their hands or keeping their fingers out of their eyes, mouth, ears, ect. HFM spreads so easily and sometimes all the cleaning in the world won't stop it because of the close quarters of childcare in addition to shopping carts, door handles, countertops, ect. out in the world.My nephew is going to a new day care comes home everyday with scratches bruises but even worse it's only his first year her and he has gotten hand foot n mouth disease more than 5 times I'm going to change his school but what can I do for the other kids parents that have the same problem who can I call about the cleanliness and wellbeing of kids
. Thank you in advance
Missjaime 08:58 PM 05-17-2016
My understanding of hand/foot/mouth is that it is a once and done disease - like chicken pox you don't get it twice. At least thats what my doctor told me. Both of my sons have had it, one when he was an only child at about 2 and then the baby when he was one. My older son didn't get it when the baby got it and I asked the doctor why and he said it was an immunity thing. Your nephew has gotten something different, I think.
However, if you are ever concerned at all about the cleanliness of the environment where your child is being cared for, you should either move them or call licensing. Bumps and bruises happen, especially when the child is in a new environment. But if you are concerned about the environment, move your child.
just my 2 cents!
However, if you are ever concerned at all about the cleanliness of the environment where your child is being cared for, you should either move them or call licensing. Bumps and bruises happen, especially when the child is in a new environment. But if you are concerned about the environment, move your child.
just my 2 cents!
CityGarden 10:03 PM 05-17-2016
This is such an odd post.....
If it is a valid post and you are truly concerned about the care the children and feel that are in danger or a re being neglected I suggest calling the licensing office not on a daycare forum.
If it is a valid post and you are truly concerned about the care the children and feel that are in danger or a re being neglected I suggest calling the licensing office not on a daycare forum.
Hunni Bee 04:56 AM 05-18-2016
Originally Posted by CityGarden:
This is such an odd post.....
If it is a valid post and you are truly concerned about the care the children and feel that are in danger or a re being neglected I suggest calling the licensing office not on a daycare forum.
Well she came here for advice about a daycare situation, and that's basically why we're here, so it doesn't seem too odd to me.This is such an odd post.....
If it is a valid post and you are truly concerned about the care the children and feel that are in danger or a re being neglected I suggest calling the licensing office not on a daycare forum.
Unregistered 05:28 AM 05-18-2016
I didn't know you could get hfm that many times. Is your nephew the only one who keeps getting it? I know where I'm from if so many kids get it I have to report it to licensing myself. Is the daycare clean and do they clean their toys on a regular basis? What about his parents are they sanitizing his toys? If you're really concerned I would report it to licensing and the health department. I would most definitely pull my child from the daycare.
Blackcat31 06:02 AM 05-18-2016
Children can shed the Hand Foot and Mouth virus for weeks, even those that show no symptoms so it's possible that the first incident of HFM was just recycled over and over.
It doesn't really have much to do with cleanliness and unfortunately is a virus so it can spread swiftly and quickly.
I do think like the other posters have said, if your nephews parents are truly concerned with their child's safety and/or well being, they should report their concerns to licensing.
You say "new daycare" but then say "first year".... did your nephew just begin attending or is he well into his first year there? If he just started attending, it's impossible for him to have contracted HFM 5 times...when it takes weeks for the virus to come and go completely.
I don't know, I think you need to educate yourself on how exactly HFM happens and you also need to share your concerns with the agency that over sees your nephews child care. If the child care is not licensed, the only recourse anyone has is to withdraw from that program and enroll in another.
As for the other parents and what they are or aren't going through...that is really not your business or concern.
It doesn't really have much to do with cleanliness and unfortunately is a virus so it can spread swiftly and quickly.
I do think like the other posters have said, if your nephews parents are truly concerned with their child's safety and/or well being, they should report their concerns to licensing.
You say "new daycare" but then say "first year".... did your nephew just begin attending or is he well into his first year there? If he just started attending, it's impossible for him to have contracted HFM 5 times...when it takes weeks for the virus to come and go completely.
I don't know, I think you need to educate yourself on how exactly HFM happens and you also need to share your concerns with the agency that over sees your nephews child care. If the child care is not licensed, the only recourse anyone has is to withdraw from that program and enroll in another.
As for the other parents and what they are or aren't going through...that is really not your business or concern.
JackandJill 06:13 AM 05-18-2016
I have an incredibly clean home daycare, and we are in the midst of a HFMD outbreak. I had 3 children with it over two weeks ago, and now another little girl with it last week. You can certainly get it more than once, and it can't be pinpointed to just daycare (think grocery store, library, play grounds, etc).
I am not sure about the bumps and bruises. I know both my boys always have a new bruise or scrape from playing (they are 18 months and 4), but you have to decide if it is more than the usual "wear and tear".
In terms of other parents, I don't think it is your place to reach out to them. That's really just creating problems that don't exist. If you are unsatisfied, then you should leave, but I wouldn't try to influence other people to leave.
I am not sure about the bumps and bruises. I know both my boys always have a new bruise or scrape from playing (they are 18 months and 4), but you have to decide if it is more than the usual "wear and tear".
In terms of other parents, I don't think it is your place to reach out to them. That's really just creating problems that don't exist. If you are unsatisfied, then you should leave, but I wouldn't try to influence other people to leave.
Thriftylady 06:18 AM 05-18-2016
I agree if parents (guardian?), are concerned they can make a report to licensing. But illness doesn't just come from daycare. As others have said, illness can be picked up anywhere. Many times, it can take days to show symptoms so you never really know where it came from, unless you know for a fact they were exposed a certain place and even then it is iffy. Bumps and bruises happen. Without knowing where on the body and seeing them it is hard to say, and even then kids are kids and things happen. Some kids are just prone to accidents and getting hurt, my DD was one of them I swear that child was always covered in bruises and such for a couple of years. She looked like a battered child, but in reality she was clumsy and didn't watch where she was going so she would trip a lot, walk into walls, you name it. I swear one summer I was afraid to take her anywhere for something thinking we beat her. And I was a provider then also so she was with my 24/7. Some of the bruises I knew what happened, others I had no clue.
EntropyControlSpecialist 10:27 AM 05-18-2016
My own child, and a lot of children enrolled here, are always getting bruises. I think considering WHERE the bruises are is a huge factor. My kids get many of their knee and shin area from falling, bumping into things, etc.
A friend had her child enrolled in a daycare and he had bruises on his bottom under a diaper often. THAT is a huge red flag and very concerning.
A friend had her child enrolled in a daycare and he had bruises on his bottom under a diaper often. THAT is a huge red flag and very concerning.
CityGarden 11:12 AM 05-18-2016
Originally Posted by Hunni Bee:
Well she came here for advice about a daycare situation, and that's basically why we're here, so it doesn't seem too odd to me.
I suppose that is one approach. However, if my child contracted an illness 5 times and consistently had bruises and scratches beyond the normal day-to-day of being a toddler/preschoolers I would...Well she came here for advice about a daycare situation, and that's basically why we're here, so it doesn't seem too odd to me.
Take my child to the pediatrician and address my concerns with them first. Pediatricians do have information about child care licensing, etc. and are required to report either the parent / daycare / school where ever they suspect the abuse / neglect stems in my state.
Pull my child from the daycare. OP still has the child there according to her post and while she plans to move the child why keep them there IF it is unsafe.
Contact Licensing. A doctor calling licensing IS a big deal and is taken quite seriously but if my pediatrician did not do so I would contact licensing as a parent which is also taken seriously.
I do really value this forum a great deal but if I really suspected things were unsafe for my child posting here is not one of the first three actions I would personally take. My first action would be to remove my child from an unsafe setting.
KSDC 11:27 AM 05-18-2016
I found this article about being able to catch HFM again.
http://www.drgreene.com/qa-articles/...mouth-disease/
http://www.drgreene.com/qa-articles/...mouth-disease/
CalCare 03:02 PM 05-24-2016
I've had it twice. It totally sucked both times. I worked in an infant toddler center at the time. I was super vigilant about washing hands and even changing mine and my son's clothing after getting home! I did everything I could but he got it so I got it. I always feel so bad for the babies when they get it becasue if their adult doesn't get it too, the adult just doesn't realize how truly badly it sucks!!! It hurt so bad and I couldn't eat or drink for days (both times). Anyway, yeah, licencing should know and then they will make sure all the parents know and if the policies and procedures that should be followed are being followed;