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DBug 09:29 AM 01-23-2012
I'm just curious as to what you all would have done in this situation ...
Our bus stop is at a corner. There is a house there, and the kids usually play on the front lawn while waiting for the bus. My kids don't (I don't let them), but almost all of the others do. I understand from the rumour mill that the owners of the house have made a few complaints to the school about kids on the lawn, strollers blocking their driveway, etc. The sidewalk where we wait is short and very rarely plowed by the town or shovelled by the owner (both of which are required, but that's another post ...), so we do sometimes wait on the sidewalk that crosses their driveway, but everyone always moves out of the way if there is a car coming in or going out (which doesn't happen very often).
Anyway, this morning, I watched the owner of the house sitting in his van the entire time we were there waiting for the bus, holding his cell phone so that the camera could very well have been filming the kids on his front lawn. My kids would have been out of the line of sight for most of it, but it makes me really mad to think that he may actually have been recording everything
. I'm sure that if he was, it wouldn't have been for anything more than showing to the school to get them to change the bus stop, but it still makes me really mad that anyone would surreptitiously film kids without their parents' permission. I asked a few of the other moms if they had noticed him, but they hadn't. They did suggest we knock on his window and ask if he was actually filming the kids. I was angry at the possibility and I said I might flip on him if he was. They weren't terribly concerned about it, so they didn't do anything either 
.
I ended up emailing the principle to tell her what I saw and what I thought he was doing, and then requested that our stop be moved to a playground close by, so that we would be on public property. I haven't heard back yet though.
So what would you have done? Would you have confronted him? Or am I just worked up over nothing
?
Our bus stop is at a corner. There is a house there, and the kids usually play on the front lawn while waiting for the bus. My kids don't (I don't let them), but almost all of the others do. I understand from the rumour mill that the owners of the house have made a few complaints to the school about kids on the lawn, strollers blocking their driveway, etc. The sidewalk where we wait is short and very rarely plowed by the town or shovelled by the owner (both of which are required, but that's another post ...), so we do sometimes wait on the sidewalk that crosses their driveway, but everyone always moves out of the way if there is a car coming in or going out (which doesn't happen very often).
Anyway, this morning, I watched the owner of the house sitting in his van the entire time we were there waiting for the bus, holding his cell phone so that the camera could very well have been filming the kids on his front lawn. My kids would have been out of the line of sight for most of it, but it makes me really mad to think that he may actually have been recording everything
. I'm sure that if he was, it wouldn't have been for anything more than showing to the school to get them to change the bus stop, but it still makes me really mad that anyone would surreptitiously film kids without their parents' permission. I asked a few of the other moms if they had noticed him, but they hadn't. They did suggest we knock on his window and ask if he was actually filming the kids. I was angry at the possibility and I said I might flip on him if he was. They weren't terribly concerned about it, so they didn't do anything either .I ended up emailing the principle to tell her what I saw and what I thought he was doing, and then requested that our stop be moved to a playground close by, so that we would be on public property. I haven't heard back yet though.
So what would you have done? Would you have confronted him? Or am I just worked up over nothing
?
JenNJ 09:35 AM 01-23-2012
The sidewalk is public property. Since the kids are out in public, he has the legal right to record them. There is nothing that can be done. Anyone can film, photograph, or record any other person when they are in public.
DaycareMama 09:48 AM 01-23-2012
I would have been very angry. Although as much as I would of wanted to confront him myself I wouldn't have if I had ANY children with me.
Im sure legally if own his own property he wasn't doing anything wrong. But I would stay on the school and bus garage to change the stop. If both the home owner and yourself are complaing maybe it will happen faster
Im sure legally if own his own property he wasn't doing anything wrong. But I would stay on the school and bus garage to change the stop. If both the home owner and yourself are complaing maybe it will happen faster
Ariana 09:50 AM 01-23-2012
Originally Posted by :
I ended up emailing the principle to tell her what I saw and what I thought he was doing, and then requested that our stop be moved to a playground close by, so that we would be on public property. I haven't heard back yet though.
This is exactly what I would have done.I ended up emailing the principle to tell her what I saw and what I thought he was doing, and then requested that our stop be moved to a playground close by, so that we would be on public property. I haven't heard back yet though.
laundrymom 09:59 AM 01-23-2012
I would have called police. Right then and there. He could be a pedifile. I would call if it happens again. 911. I'm at the bus stop and there is a man parked out here using a cell to take pics of the kids. I am certain none are his children. They do not take things like this lightly.
Sunshine44 10:21 AM 01-23-2012
I would do nothing. I doubt he would be filming and if he is, it is because of the kids on his driveway. I'd probably do the same thing to show the school board what is going on. IF you have the kids out in public, someone can film them without you knowing...I mean, I sure wouldn't go ask for your permission, especially if the kids were in the wrong (on his lawn and such). I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Take the kids to the stop...make them behave and move on with life. If the guy complains enough and the stop is moved, good for you both.
littlemissmuffet 10:30 AM 01-23-2012
I don't care what rumors you heard or what rights someone has to do with their camera in public, etc - I would have called the police immediately. Even if there is "nothing" they can do, they would at least have the report on file. What if he is a pedophile? I don't take strange men videotaping or photographing children very lightly, regardless of what one might THINK they are doing.
JenNJ 10:39 AM 01-23-2012
I think the reaction to this is over the top. He has a legitimate complaint about people (doesn't matter if it is children or adults) hanging on his property. That lawn, that driveway, that grass belongs to him! He OWNS that land. No one has any right to be on it without his permission. The children and adults are trespassing. That is illegal. Where are the parents/caregivers of the children who are trespassing?
He has tried to go through the proper channels with no resolution. Now he is collecting physical evidence of this crime. Which is LEGAL. As long as he isn't taping people in bathrooms/locker rooms/bedrooms or on private property, he is well within his rights.
If you don't want him to go to these lengths, try and talk to everyone at the bus stop to stay off his property!
He has tried to go through the proper channels with no resolution. Now he is collecting physical evidence of this crime. Which is LEGAL. As long as he isn't taping people in bathrooms/locker rooms/bedrooms or on private property, he is well within his rights.
If you don't want him to go to these lengths, try and talk to everyone at the bus stop to stay off his property!
Meeko 10:40 AM 01-23-2012
I'm willing to bet, the poor guy is sick and tired of his driveway and lawn being used as a wild playground.
He is also probably worried that some out of control kid is going to be hurt on his property and instead of telling the child "That's what's you get when you misbehave"..... the parents will sue for medical damages, pain and suffering and future lost wages because "darling Suzie was going to be a super model and now that scrape on her chin has put an end to her career" .....and put him in the poor house for the rest of his life.
If he was taking photos or filming, it's not to be a pervert, but to show the city and the school district that local kids AND their parents have no respect for his property.
I feel sorry for the guy. And the last thing he needs is people accusing him of being a pervert.
He is also probably worried that some out of control kid is going to be hurt on his property and instead of telling the child "That's what's you get when you misbehave"..... the parents will sue for medical damages, pain and suffering and future lost wages because "darling Suzie was going to be a super model and now that scrape on her chin has put an end to her career" .....and put him in the poor house for the rest of his life.
If he was taking photos or filming, it's not to be a pervert, but to show the city and the school district that local kids AND their parents have no respect for his property.
I feel sorry for the guy. And the last thing he needs is people accusing him of being a pervert.
permanentvacation 10:40 AM 01-23-2012
Outside, anyone can record anyone. It's outside in a public area. It would be weird for some random person to record other people's kids in general and I might call the police - even though since it's outside in public, I know the cops really can't do anything- but they might get the guy to leave the area. However, in this case, you seem to know that the man is the homeowner of the property that the kids are on and it makes logical sense that he is tired of the kids/parents being on his grass and blocking his driveway. You made it sound like it is obviously the homeowner trying to take a video to prove his case to try to have the bus stop moved. Therefore, I wouldn't worry about the video. I would, however, make sure that my kids and I were not on his property or blocking his driveway or doing anything illegal while he is video taping. If there is any damage to his property, he could also use the video to prove damage done by the kids/parents to use in court against them indivudally.
youretooloud 10:47 AM 01-23-2012
The school needs to move the bus stop. He shouldn't have to deal with kids on his yard just for the sake of the bus stop. I'd video tape it too.
sharlan 10:48 AM 01-23-2012
I can understand where this man is coming from. Parents are allowing their kids to play on HIS property, block HIS driveway, etc. He's probably tired of the destruction being done to HIS property. I am guessing that he was filming the kids on his property to prove to the school what is going on.
According to you, he's already complained to the school with no action being taken. What do you think he should do?
We had a neighbor who's kids routinely rode their bikes through another lady's drive and yard. After she asked, then told them to stop, one of the boys broke two of her sprinklers. The next day she was waiting for him and grabbed him by the arm. Of course he rode home to tell his parents how this lady attacked him for no reason. I told his mom what I had seen her boys do repeatedly. The dad came home from work, in an outrage. I told him what I saw. He didn't care, this lady had no right to touch his child. He went over and confronted her. She gave him pics of his little angels. He ended up coming home and getting the boys and taking them back. He made them apologize and repair the damage they had caused.
According to you, he's already complained to the school with no action being taken. What do you think he should do?
We had a neighbor who's kids routinely rode their bikes through another lady's drive and yard. After she asked, then told them to stop, one of the boys broke two of her sprinklers. The next day she was waiting for him and grabbed him by the arm. Of course he rode home to tell his parents how this lady attacked him for no reason. I told his mom what I had seen her boys do repeatedly. The dad came home from work, in an outrage. I told him what I saw. He didn't care, this lady had no right to touch his child. He went over and confronted her. She gave him pics of his little angels. He ended up coming home and getting the boys and taking them back. He made them apologize and repair the damage they had caused.
countrymom 11:01 AM 01-23-2012
Originally Posted by laundrymom:
I would have called police. Right then and there. He could be a pedifile. I would call if it happens again. 911. I'm at the bus stop and there is a man parked out here using a cell to take pics of the kids. I am certain none are his children. They do not take things like this lightly.
thats what I would have done too. Also, if there was an issue, why didn't the owners call the school or the bus complany and complain. Why didn't they take the measures, I'm just curious as to what they were going to do with the footage, who were they going to complain too.I would have called police. Right then and there. He could be a pedifile. I would call if it happens again. 911. I'm at the bus stop and there is a man parked out here using a cell to take pics of the kids. I am certain none are his children. They do not take things like this lightly.
Now on a side note, I have to understand to what he is saying. The bus stop is in front of my house, couple years ago, there was a mom who started picking and dropping off her kid everyday, then suddenly she would start to bring people with her (they were lowlifes as we live in a small town so everyone knows everyone) and I started to get nervous, but the last straw was when she brought another guy and he started bringing his rotweiller to the bus stop with a muzzle (they are banned here) I had to confront her about it and the blocking of my driveway.
then last year I was putting a girl on another bus, but the kids who waited there were always running around the guys driveway and car, their mom didn't care that they were scratching his car, till he confronted her one day. I've never seen them play around his car again.
and parents shouldn't let kids be running all over someones property thats rude and inconsiderate.
DBug 11:07 AM 01-23-2012
I totally agree with everyone who said that he shouldn't have to deal with kids all over his lawn. The parents of most of the kids who are on the lawn are standing right there watching them. I don't let my kids on the lawn (whether it's snow-covered or not) and yes, the other kids have made fun of them for it. In fact, I've started being alot less quiet about it too when I have had to remind my kids, in the hopes that the other parents would get the idea. The home owners themselves have never said anything directly to any of the parents or the kids, so far as I know.
However, it really does make me mad that he's potentially filming my own kids and my daycare kids though, whether they're doing what they should be or not. I would much rather he write down descriptions of kids and/or parents, and give that to the school.
But, the whole thing does make me think that maybe I should start lobbying for changing the location, rather than just requesting it ....
However, it really does make me mad that he's potentially filming my own kids and my daycare kids though, whether they're doing what they should be or not. I would much rather he write down descriptions of kids and/or parents, and give that to the school.
But, the whole thing does make me think that maybe I should start lobbying for changing the location, rather than just requesting it ....
Sunshine44 11:19 AM 01-23-2012
In this day and age, with cell phones and technology there is really nothing you can do.
youretooloud 11:26 AM 01-23-2012
Originally Posted by DBug:
But, the whole thing does make me think that maybe I should start lobbying for changing the location, rather than just requesting it ....
I would...it's not fair to the homeowner. Parents these days are a total pain in the butt....... if someone's little precious were to get hurt while damaging this guy's property, he could be sued by the pain in the butt parents.But, the whole thing does make me think that maybe I should start lobbying for changing the location, rather than just requesting it ....
Kaddidle Care 11:43 AM 01-23-2012
I have no doubt that the homeowner is filming so that he can bring his case to the School Board. I feel bad for him that the parents there have no sense of responsibility when it comes to their children. They all need a lesson in respect.
I would be quite loud telling my own children how it is disrespectful to tramp all over someone's lawn/yard. (I bet they wouldn't like it if he allowed his big dog to dig in their front yard.)
Poor guy needs to put up a fence or go hog wild on the School Board. Sounds like he's gearing up.
I would be quite loud telling my own children how it is disrespectful to tramp all over someone's lawn/yard. (I bet they wouldn't like it if he allowed his big dog to dig in their front yard.)
Poor guy needs to put up a fence or go hog wild on the School Board. Sounds like he's gearing up.
saved4always 11:54 AM 01-23-2012
I can totally understand him being upset about the kids in his driveway and yard, especially if they are being wild and loud. It sounds like he doesn't even have any kids at that bus stop so I am sure he feels he shouldn't have to deal with the chaos. My daughter's bus stop is in our driveway and I sometimes get annoyed at the wildness at the stop. And I WANT the stop to be there...lol! I can imagine how annoyed I would be at the noise if I did NOT have a child at that stop. Kids are not respectful of people's yards (at least in my neighborhood)..they will run through flower beds, jump on cars in the drive, race up to the garage and bang on the doors. If this is happening at your stop, the parents need to control thier little darlings.
Springdaze 01:01 PM 01-23-2012
it would be a shame if this guy was investigated for being a pediphile for this.
greenhouse 01:03 PM 01-23-2012
[quote=littlemissmuffet;188656]I don't care what rumors you heard or what rights someone has to do with their camera in public, etc - I would have called the police immediately. Even if there is "nothing" they can do, they would at least have the report on file. What if he is a pedophile? I don't take strange men videotaping or photographing children very lightly, regardless of what one might THINK they are doing.[/QUOTE
My thoughts exactly :/
My thoughts exactly :/
Christian Mother 01:18 PM 01-23-2012
If your upset you should confront him on it. I would. I wouldn't let my self wonder...I'd just go up there and ask him what he thought he was doing and why.
If I was him..I'd be good and mad also. But, it's his fault for not continually confronting the parents of the kids about staying off his property. The side walk should be a good safe spot to stand waiting for the bus to show up. Sounds like he is doing what he can to get it to change but I have to say...if parents/children are not respecting him and his property why should he care about respecting them while filming their actions to further get proof of getting it switched...if that indeed is what he is doing.
If I was him..I'd be good and mad also. But, it's his fault for not continually confronting the parents of the kids about staying off his property. The side walk should be a good safe spot to stand waiting for the bus to show up. Sounds like he is doing what he can to get it to change but I have to say...if parents/children are not respecting him and his property why should he care about respecting them while filming their actions to further get proof of getting it switched...if that indeed is what he is doing.
Meeko 01:50 PM 01-23-2012
Please be careful that this poor man doesn't end up having half the town think he is a pervert because of rumors. You can completely destroy someone's life that way.
Now if he sat there each day filming the kids for no reason....then it would be worrying and I would say something.
But the fact is the poor man has already tried to do something about the fact that his property is being destroyed and nothing has been done. So he is gathering proof.....nothing more I am sure.
Now if the bus stop gets moved and he pulls up in his car to film the kids from across the road....go for it and call the police!
But the situation sounds very innocent to me.
Now if he sat there each day filming the kids for no reason....then it would be worrying and I would say something.
But the fact is the poor man has already tried to do something about the fact that his property is being destroyed and nothing has been done. So he is gathering proof.....nothing more I am sure.
Now if the bus stop gets moved and he pulls up in his car to film the kids from across the road....go for it and call the police!
But the situation sounds very innocent to me.
JenNJ 01:55 PM 01-23-2012
Originally Posted by Meeko60:
Please be careful that this poor man doesn't end up having half the town think he is a pervert because of rumors. You can completely destroy someone's life that way.
Now if he sat there each day filming the kids for no reason....then it would be worrying and I would say something.
But the fact is the poor man has already tried to do something about the fact that his property is being destroyed and nothing has been done. So he is gathering proof.....nothing more I am sure.
Now if the bus stop gets moved and he pulls up in his car to film the kids from across the road....go for it and call the police!
But the situation sounds very innocent to me.
Please be careful that this poor man doesn't end up having half the town think he is a pervert because of rumors. You can completely destroy someone's life that way.
Now if he sat there each day filming the kids for no reason....then it would be worrying and I would say something.
But the fact is the poor man has already tried to do something about the fact that his property is being destroyed and nothing has been done. So he is gathering proof.....nothing more I am sure.
Now if the bus stop gets moved and he pulls up in his car to film the kids from across the road....go for it and call the police!
But the situation sounds very innocent to me.
sharlan 02:16 PM 01-23-2012
Originally Posted by DBug:
I totally agree with everyone who said that he shouldn't have to deal with kids all over his lawn. The parents of most of the kids who are on the lawn are standing right there watching them. I don't let my kids on the lawn (whether it's snow-covered or not) and yes, the other kids have made fun of them for it. In fact, I've started being alot less quiet about it too when I have had to remind my kids, in the hopes that the other parents would get the idea. The home owners themselves have never said anything directly to any of the parents or the kids, so far as I know.
However, it really does make me mad that he's potentially filming my own kids and my daycare kids though, whether they're doing what they should be or not. I would much rather he write down descriptions of kids and/or parents, and give that to the school.
But, the whole thing does make me think that maybe I should start lobbying for changing the location, rather than just requesting it ....
A picture is worth a thousand words.I totally agree with everyone who said that he shouldn't have to deal with kids all over his lawn. The parents of most of the kids who are on the lawn are standing right there watching them. I don't let my kids on the lawn (whether it's snow-covered or not) and yes, the other kids have made fun of them for it. In fact, I've started being alot less quiet about it too when I have had to remind my kids, in the hopes that the other parents would get the idea. The home owners themselves have never said anything directly to any of the parents or the kids, so far as I know.
However, it really does make me mad that he's potentially filming my own kids and my daycare kids though, whether they're doing what they should be or not. I would much rather he write down descriptions of kids and/or parents, and give that to the school.
But, the whole thing does make me think that maybe I should start lobbying for changing the location, rather than just requesting it ....
sharlan 02:19 PM 01-23-2012
Originally Posted by Christian Mother:
If your upset you should confront him on it. I would. I wouldn't let my self wonder...I'd just go up there and ask him what he thought he was doing and why.
If I was him..I'd be good and mad also. But, it's his fault for not continually confronting the parents of the kids about staying off his property. The side walk should be a good safe spot to stand waiting for the bus to show up. Sounds like he is doing what he can to get it to change but I have to say...if parents/children are not respecting him and his property why should he care about respecting them while filming their actions to further get proof of getting it switched...if that indeed is what he is doing.
Really? Does this man have nothing better to do with his life than CONTINUALLY confronting parents who don't care about destruction their little angel is causing? He shouldn't have to. The parents should be there teaching their children respect for his property.If your upset you should confront him on it. I would. I wouldn't let my self wonder...I'd just go up there and ask him what he thought he was doing and why.
If I was him..I'd be good and mad also. But, it's his fault for not continually confronting the parents of the kids about staying off his property. The side walk should be a good safe spot to stand waiting for the bus to show up. Sounds like he is doing what he can to get it to change but I have to say...if parents/children are not respecting him and his property why should he care about respecting them while filming their actions to further get proof of getting it switched...if that indeed is what he is doing.
SilverSabre25 02:20 PM 01-23-2012
I'm just gonna go out a limb here and suggest that if he were a predator he would NOT be complaining about the kids on his lawn, he would be actively trying to befriend them.
Just sayin'.
Just sayin'.
Ariana 02:38 PM 01-23-2012
Originally Posted by Meeko60:
Please be careful that this poor man doesn't end up having half the town think he is a pervert because of rumors. You can completely destroy someone's life that way.
Now if he sat there each day filming the kids for no reason....then it would be worrying and I would say something.
But the fact is the poor man has already tried to do something about the fact that his property is being destroyed and nothing has been done. So he is gathering proof.....nothing more I am sure.
Now if the bus stop gets moved and he pulls up in his car to film the kids from across the road....go for it and call the police!
But the situation sounds very innocent to me.
Yes! I agree completely. He seems to have justifiable cause to be filming the kids on his property. He's not some random dude filming kids Please be careful that this poor man doesn't end up having half the town think he is a pervert because of rumors. You can completely destroy someone's life that way.
Now if he sat there each day filming the kids for no reason....then it would be worrying and I would say something.
But the fact is the poor man has already tried to do something about the fact that his property is being destroyed and nothing has been done. So he is gathering proof.....nothing more I am sure.
Now if the bus stop gets moved and he pulls up in his car to film the kids from across the road....go for it and call the police!
But the situation sounds very innocent to me.
Country Kids 02:48 PM 01-23-2012
I hate to say this but what he is doing is against the law. He isn't allowed to film anyones children without their parents permission then we are. We have to have parents sign off that we can take pictures, video, etc. Schools have to, sporting teams, etc. Even if it is on his property he can't just be taking pitures of children without some consent form. What if he were to take that to the newspaper and have them write up a story on the problem bus stop in front of his house. Then all those children will be published and no permission slips from the parent.
Yes, we are in the day and age of technology but we are also in the day and age of sue happy people!
Yes, we are in the day and age of technology but we are also in the day and age of sue happy people!
JenNJ 03:08 PM 01-23-2012
Originally Posted by Country Kids:
I hate to say this but what he is doing is against the law. He isn't allowed to film anyones children without their parents permission then we are. We have to have parents sign off that we can take pictures, video, etc. Schools have to, sporting teams, etc. Even if it is on his property he can't just be taking pitures of children without some consent form. What if he were to take that to the newspaper and have them write up a story on the problem bus stop in front of his house. Then all those children will be published and no permission slips from the parent.
Yes, we are in the day and age of technology but we are also in the day and age of sue happy people!
I hate to say this but what he is doing is against the law. He isn't allowed to film anyones children without their parents permission then we are. We have to have parents sign off that we can take pictures, video, etc. Schools have to, sporting teams, etc. Even if it is on his property he can't just be taking pitures of children without some consent form. What if he were to take that to the newspaper and have them write up a story on the problem bus stop in front of his house. Then all those children will be published and no permission slips from the parent.
Yes, we are in the day and age of technology but we are also in the day and age of sue happy people!
This is not correct. It is perfectly legal to film anyone on public property. Even kids.
laundrymom 03:24 PM 01-23-2012
I would still call the police. I don't care what his reason. I would call, tell them a man is taking pictures at the busstop and let them deal with it. That's their job. Ive done it and I will do it again if I need to. Ive always had a busstop at my drive and its part of it. Kids noise and extra traffic. Ive also been ENCOURAGED by our police to call if I notice someone hanging around bus stops. They do not mess around here. Whether he lives there or not. Is no concern. Maybe a report would help get things moving towards a solution.
Kaddidle Care 03:50 PM 01-23-2012
Originally Posted by JenNJ:
This is not correct. It is perfectly legal to film anyone on public property. Even kids.
Better yet, it's his OWN property. This is not correct. It is perfectly legal to film anyone on public property. Even kids.
We don't have sidewalks in our neighborhood so the kids are in the street in front of the yards. I do ask my son to step back a few feet onto the neighbor's yard when the bus is approaching if there is snow or ice on the road in case the bus slips while stopping.
But playing in someone's yard when waiting for the bus? I don't think so. We have it timed so that he barely gets there in time for the bus.
Sounds like the parents are having a coffee clutch out there. They shouldn't be out there more than 10 minutes.
Christian Mother 04:13 PM 01-23-2012
Originally Posted by sharlan:
Really? Does this man have nothing better to do with his life than CONTINUALLY confronting parents who don't care about destruction their little angel is causing? He shouldn't have to. The parents should be there teaching their children respect for his property.
No...your right...he shouldn't have to and it's a real shame he has to figure out ways to go in and plead his case whether it's filming or talking personally with parents, kids, the school etc. Not that I think filming is a good thing..kind of creepy.. but I am sure he has way more things to do with his time then police his home and property. Why aren't these parents getting a clue that it's disrespectful? Maybe the bus stop should be moved to one of their homes? Really? Does this man have nothing better to do with his life than CONTINUALLY confronting parents who don't care about destruction their little angel is causing? He shouldn't have to. The parents should be there teaching their children respect for his property.
DBug 05:36 PM 01-23-2012
Originally Posted by Christian Mother:
Why aren't these parents getting a clue that it's disrespectful? Maybe the bus stop should be moved to one of their homes?
I wish! These parents are wonderful people, but are totally clueless when it comes to some things. Why aren't these parents getting a clue that it's disrespectful? Maybe the bus stop should be moved to one of their homes?
The principle is taking it up with the bus company right now, so hopefully we'll get the stop moved. I'm gunning for right in front of the playground -- a farther walk for us, but hey, the kids will have something to do while we're waiting for the bus!
For those who said it's legal to film people in public, even without their permission -- does that mean it's legal for pedophiles to film at parks or schools? I thought that even with security cameras at stores or wherever, they had to have a sign posted somewhere letting people know they're being recorded. But then, I'm Canadian, and maybe the rules are different here
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Meeko 08:28 PM 01-23-2012
Originally Posted by DBug:
I wish! These parents are wonderful people, but are totally clueless when it comes to some things.
The principle is taking it up with the bus company right now, so hopefully we'll get the stop moved. I'm gunning for right in front of the playground -- a farther walk for us, but hey, the kids will have something to do while we're waiting for the bus!
For those who said it's legal to film people in public, even without their permission -- does that mean it's legal for pedophiles to film at parks or schools? I thought that even with security cameras at stores or wherever, they had to have a sign posted somewhere letting people know they're being recorded. But then, I'm Canadian, and maybe the rules are different here.
I wish! These parents are wonderful people, but are totally clueless when it comes to some things.
The principle is taking it up with the bus company right now, so hopefully we'll get the stop moved. I'm gunning for right in front of the playground -- a farther walk for us, but hey, the kids will have something to do while we're waiting for the bus!
For those who said it's legal to film people in public, even without their permission -- does that mean it's legal for pedophiles to film at parks or schools? I thought that even with security cameras at stores or wherever, they had to have a sign posted somewhere letting people know they're being recorded. But then, I'm Canadian, and maybe the rules are different here
.I think it's obvious something weird is up if a man is hovering around the playground, when his own kids aren't there etc. I think good judgement must be made.
But if it were illegal, we could never film our kids in a parade or at a soccer game or anything as it would be illegal to get someone else's kid in the shot.....
...the man is in his own yard, taking video/pics of kids messing up his yard.
An earlier poster pointed out that if he was a pedophile he would WANT the kids there!! He wants them gone!
SandeeAR 11:08 AM 01-24-2012
Originally Posted by DBug:
For those who said it's legal to film people in public, even without their permission -- does that mean it's legal for pedophiles to film at parks or schools? .
Did you see the story on the Jacey Dugard kidnapping? While he held her captive, he was in a park leaning against a tree playing a guitar. His wife was recording him, or so it appeared. After they rescued Jacey, they found the tapes. She was really recording the kids behind him for his own wierd, preverted pleasure.For those who said it's legal to film people in public, even without their permission -- does that mean it's legal for pedophiles to film at parks or schools? .