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DaisyMamma 06:29 AM 04-15-2013
So DCD shows w DCK 8mo. We are outside. He says, are you going to be outside today?
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Its 41 and overcast. no wind, feels like 50. But also school vacation so there's 3 extra crazy SA kids. Every kid here is happy to be outside and so am I.
DCK has no coat, no hat, Capri pants on
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I say yes. Does she have a blanket or something? Dad says no, I didn't think you'd be outside cuz its so cold. I say well we will only be out for another half hr for now then we can go inside for her nap. He says well DCG isn't feeling well so I don't want her out here (
) I ssay, well, unfortunately there are other kids here. I can find her a blanket and a hat. I go in and get it but dad says he is leaving, since DCK has a runny nose and hasn't been well.
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I'm annoyed and think its funny at the same time. Did DCD actually expect me to tell 8 kids they had to spend the day inside? This is daycare, I'm not your nanny.
Not only that but why are you bringing a sick kid?
These peep are paid through for another month. Do you think they will leave after that? Should I even care? I don't need overprotective parents, or parents who think they can tell me what to do.
I did kind of feel bad and almost offered up a different day (they are part time). But I'm glad I didn't.
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)Its 41 and overcast. no wind, feels like 50. But also school vacation so there's 3 extra crazy SA kids. Every kid here is happy to be outside and so am I.
DCK has no coat, no hat, Capri pants on
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)I say yes. Does she have a blanket or something? Dad says no, I didn't think you'd be outside cuz its so cold. I say well we will only be out for another half hr for now then we can go inside for her nap. He says well DCG isn't feeling well so I don't want her out here (
) I ssay, well, unfortunately there are other kids here. I can find her a blanket and a hat. I go in and get it but dad says he is leaving, since DCK has a runny nose and hasn't been well..
I'm annoyed and think its funny at the same time. Did DCD actually expect me to tell 8 kids they had to spend the day inside? This is daycare, I'm not your nanny.
Not only that but why are you bringing a sick kid?
These peep are paid through for another month. Do you think they will leave after that? Should I even care? I don't need overprotective parents, or parents who think they can tell me what to do.
I did kind of feel bad and almost offered up a different day (they are part time). But I'm glad I didn't.
blandino 06:45 AM 04-15-2013
A few weeks ago I had a DCD tell me his daughter needed to stay in when we went outside. I'm guessing he thought since we had two employees, that one could stay in with his daughter ?!? So then the other person would have to manage 11 children alone ? Umm. Not going to happen.
The same week I had a DCM brig DCg (who had pneumonia the week earlier) in and say that if it happened to be nice enough to go outside that day, could we call her to come get DCG. At least she understood that we can't keep one child inside, and shouldn't have to all stay inside due to one child.
The same week I had a DCM brig DCg (who had pneumonia the week earlier) in and say that if it happened to be nice enough to go outside that day, could we call her to come get DCG. At least she understood that we can't keep one child inside, and shouldn't have to all stay inside due to one child.
LittleD 06:49 AM 04-15-2013
Seriously? 
One of the first things I though was "If it's so cold, why is she coming with no jacket and capris?
Second thought I had "Why is she coming if she's sick?"
Glad you didn't offer up a different day! Good for you! And no, it's doesn't mean they will leave. I'm guessing this is their first baby? They will complain to other parent friends who will tell them you are great and to consider themselves lucky!
Or maybe they will decide they can work their work schedules around each other to take care of baby and will leave.
One of the first things I though was "If it's so cold, why is she coming with no jacket and capris?
Second thought I had "Why is she coming if she's sick?"
Glad you didn't offer up a different day! Good for you! And no, it's doesn't mean they will leave. I'm guessing this is their first baby? They will complain to other parent friends who will tell them you are great and to consider themselves lucky!
Or maybe they will decide they can work their work schedules around each other to take care of baby and will leave.
DaisyMamma 06:51 AM 04-15-2013
Yes, first child, of course! LOL
crazydaycarelady 07:02 AM 04-15-2013
It sounds to me like he was feeling guilty for bringing her sick and seeing you all outside pushed him into doing the right thing and taking his sick kid home.
momofboys 07:19 AM 04-15-2013
If she is "so sick" why are they bringing her? lol & 40/50 degree weather is perfectly fine to be outside in so long as a child is dressed appropriately. Some parents . . .ugh. It is 56 here, supposed to reach 70 today 
& the kids & I are headed for a walk at the bike/walking trail - so excited to be able to get outside & soak in the sun!!!
It is 56 here, supposed to reach 70 today & the kids & I are headed for a walk at the bike/walking trail - so excited to be able to get outside & soak in the sun!!!
DaisyMamma 07:34 AM 04-15-2013
Originally Posted by momofboys:
If she is "so sick" why are they bringing her? lol & 40/50 degree weather is perfectly fine to be outside in so long as a child is dressed appropriately. Some parents . . .ugh. It is 56 here, supposed to reach 70 today & the kids & I are headed for a walk at the bike/walking trail - so excited to be able to get outside & soak in the sun!!!
70! Lucky!If she is "so sick" why are they bringing her? lol & 40/50 degree weather is perfectly fine to be outside in so long as a child is dressed appropriately. Some parents . . .ugh.
It is 56 here, supposed to reach 70 today & the kids & I are headed for a walk at the bike/walking trail - so excited to be able to get outside & soak in the sun!!!
sharlan 07:43 AM 04-15-2013
Originally Posted by DaisyMamma:
So DCD shows w DCK 8mo. We are outside. He says, are you going to be outside today?
()
Its 41 and overcast. no wind, feels like 50. But also school vacation so there's 3 extra crazy SA kids. Every kid here is happy to be outside and so am I.
DCK has no coat, no hat, Capri pants on
()
I say yes. Does she have a blanket or something? Dad says no, I didn't think you'd be outside cuz its so cold. I say well we will only be out for another half hr for now then we can go inside for her nap. He says well DCG isn't feeling well so I don't want her out here () I ssay, well, unfortunately there are other kids here. I can find her a blanket and a hat. I go in and get it but dad says he is leaving, since DCK has a runny nose and hasn't been well.
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I'm annoyed and think its funny at the same time. Did DCD actually expect me to tell 8 kids they had to spend the day inside? This is daycare, I'm not your nanny.
Not only that but why are you bringing a sick kid?
These peep are paid through for another month. Do you think they will leave after that? Should I even care? I don't need overprotective parents, or parents who think they can tell me what to do.
I did kind of feel bad and almost offered up a different day (they are part time). But I'm glad I didn't.
See, I would have to agree with the parent. I don't let mine out the door until it hits 90. (Just kidding, 60* is my limit for the older kids) I am not a cold weather person. We don't go outside if we have to put jackets on. It's 56* outside right now and I'm cold.So DCD shows w DCK 8mo. We are outside. He says, are you going to be outside today?
(
)Its 41 and overcast. no wind, feels like 50. But also school vacation so there's 3 extra crazy SA kids. Every kid here is happy to be outside and so am I.
DCK has no coat, no hat, Capri pants on
(
)I say yes. Does she have a blanket or something? Dad says no, I didn't think you'd be outside cuz its so cold. I say well we will only be out for another half hr for now then we can go inside for her nap. He says well DCG isn't feeling well so I don't want her out here (
) I ssay, well, unfortunately there are other kids here. I can find her a blanket and a hat. I go in and get it but dad says he is leaving, since DCK has a runny nose and hasn't been well..
I'm annoyed and think its funny at the same time. Did DCD actually expect me to tell 8 kids they had to spend the day inside? This is daycare, I'm not your nanny.
Not only that but why are you bringing a sick kid?
These peep are paid through for another month. Do you think they will leave after that? Should I even care? I don't need overprotective parents, or parents who think they can tell me what to do.
I did kind of feel bad and almost offered up a different day (they are part time). But I'm glad I didn't.
pandamom 07:50 AM 04-15-2013
We had something similar happen ( I work at a center). Mom *thought* DCB may be catching pnemonia so she asked if we could keep DCB inside. It was 40 degrees outside. Of course we had to tell her that we couldn't keep him inside because we'd be out of ratio and that she signed the paperwork that kids must do outdoor play if weather permits. DCB stayed and went outside and had a blast. And nope...he just had a little bit of the sniffles- not pnemonia
crazydaycarelady 07:50 AM 04-15-2013
We only go out when it is above 10 degrees. Seriously if I had that 60 degree rule here in Montana the kids would only go out 3 months out of the year.
blandino 07:50 AM 04-15-2013
See we have to go outside daily, according to licenseing regulations, if weather permits (which can be loosely interpreted). I have decided that 40 is my minimum temp for going outside - although I would much prefer 50, but I don't think 40 degrees "poses a risk" so I don't think it would slide win licensing.
Sometimes I even feel guilty for having it so high at 40, because the childcare weather watch chart seems to think 20/30 is a perfectly fine temperature to take them outside. I just can't do it, I am miserable.
Sometimes I even feel guilty for having it so high at 40, because the childcare weather watch chart seems to think 20/30 is a perfectly fine temperature to take them outside. I just can't do it, I am miserable.
Play Care 07:51 AM 04-15-2013
Originally Posted by sharlan:
See, I would have to agree with the parent. I don't let mine out the door until it hits 90. (Just kidding, 60* is my limit for the older kids) I am not a cold weather person. We don't go outside if we have to put jackets on. It's 56* outside right now and I'm cold.
I gotta be honest, I read your post and was like "WHAAAAAT?!" Then I saw you're from California!!See, I would have to agree with the parent. I don't let mine out the door until it hits 90. (Just kidding, 60* is my limit for the older kids) I am not a cold weather person. We don't go outside if we have to put jackets on. It's 56* outside right now and I'm cold.
I'm in upstate NY and parents would be furious if we stayed in on a 40 or 50 degree day. It would mean being inside most of the year.
youretooloud 08:04 AM 04-15-2013
Originally Posted by LittleD:
"If it's so cold, why is she coming with no jacket and capris?
Right? If they think it's cold, dress her appropriately. Why does he even think it's an option? "If it's so cold, why is she coming with no jacket and capris?
I had a girl who would "dress herself" in summer clothes right in the middle of winter. She'd come in wearing a coat, but they'd take her coat off, and she had a sun dress on. The rest of us were bundled up in layers, and she'd have a sundress and sandals.
The Dad would always wonder why I kept the house so cold. "Because it's JANUARY".
Blackcat31 08:16 AM 04-15-2013
My policies CLEARLY state that if you feel your child is too sick/ill to go outside, they are too sick/ill to be at child care.
It doesn't matter what the temp is outside.
It doesn't matter what the temp is outside.
DaisyMamma 08:20 AM 04-15-2013
Originally Posted by sharlan:
See, I would have to agree with the parent. I don't let mine out the door until it hits 90. (Just kidding, 60* is my limit for the older kids) I am not a cold weather person. We don't go outside if we have to put jackets on. It's 56* outside right now and I'm cold.
And that is your choice.See, I would have to agree with the parent. I don't let mine out the door until it hits 90. (Just kidding, 60* is my limit for the older kids) I am not a cold weather person. We don't go outside if we have to put jackets on. It's 56* outside right now and I'm cold.
Think of it this way....
What if a parent came and said Its 45 and warm enough to play, you need to bring DCK outside today
LOL
sharlan 08:20 AM 04-15-2013
Originally Posted by Play Care:
I gotta be honest, I read your post and was like "WHAAAAAT?!" Then I saw you're from California!!
I'm in upstate NY and parents would be furious if we stayed in on a 40 or 50 degree day. It would mean being inside most of the year.
Yes, I was born and raised in SoCal. I don't do cold weather. I haven't been anywhere near snow in 32 years. Now come summer, we are hardly ever in the house unless it's over 100*.I gotta be honest, I read your post and was like "WHAAAAAT?!" Then I saw you're from California!!
I'm in upstate NY and parents would be furious if we stayed in on a 40 or 50 degree day. It would mean being inside most of the year.
itlw8 09:01 AM 04-15-2013
I had a parent say once Could you keep sally inside today she has a cold. I looked at her and said. I am sorry but I would not be comfortable leaving a 2 yr old all alone in the house while I took everyone outside for an hour. I could lose my license over that. Then I waited. mom said I did not think of that. I was ready to say if she is too sick to play she needs to leave. Instead mom said make sure she keeps her coat zipped.
MrsSteinel'sHouse 11:30 AM 04-15-2013
I always tell my parents to assume we are going out!! Snow- snowpants, boots mittens, hat winer coat!!. Rainy boots jacket and a change of clothes!! If it is at all possible, we will be out! There were very few days this winter that we were not out. I also have a pretty sheltered patio that we can be out on to at least jump around and be loud for a few moments on!
daycarediva 11:44 AM 04-15-2013
Originally Posted by sharlan:
See, I would have to agree with the parent. I don't let mine out the door until it hits 90. (Just kidding, 60* is my limit for the older kids) I am not a cold weather person. We don't go outside if we have to put jackets on. It's 56* outside right now and I'm cold.
I hope you're lucky enough to live somewhere warm! Here that wouldn't fly or I wouldn't be able to meet the state mandated outdoor play reqs. See, I would have to agree with the parent. I don't let mine out the door until it hits 90. (Just kidding, 60* is my limit for the older kids) I am not a cold weather person. We don't go outside if we have to put jackets on. It's 56* outside right now and I'm cold.
It's 50 today, all of my windows are cracked and we spent a morning at the playground and a nature trail. It gets to be 60 in late May and cools down to 50s by September.
AmyKidsCo 11:59 AM 04-15-2013
I always fall back on regulations... "According to licensing we have to go out unless it's under 20 degrees, over 90 degrees or is pouring rain. Sorry..."
sharlan 11:59 AM 04-15-2013
Originally Posted by daycarediva:
I hope you're lucky enough to live somewhere warm! Here that wouldn't fly or I wouldn't be able to meet the state mandated outdoor play reqs.
It's 50 today, all of my windows are cracked and we spent a morning at the playground and a nature trail. It gets to be 60 in late May and cools down to 50s by September.
At 50* my house is closed up and the heater is on. It's 64* and my house is closed up and I rarely shut all the windows.I hope you're lucky enough to live somewhere warm! Here that wouldn't fly or I wouldn't be able to meet the state mandated outdoor play reqs.
It's 50 today, all of my windows are cracked and we spent a morning at the playground and a nature trail. It gets to be 60 in late May and cools down to 50s by September.
EntropyControlSpecialist 12:06 PM 04-15-2013
Originally Posted by blandino:
See we have to go outside daily, according to licenseing regulations, if weather permits (which can be loosely interpreted). I have decided that 40 is my minimum temp for going outside - although I would much prefer 50, but I don't think 40 degrees "poses a risk" so I don't think it would slide win licensing.
Sometimes I even feel guilty for having it so high at 40, because the childcare weather watch chart seems to think 20/30 is a perfectly fine temperature to take them outside. I just can't do it, I am miserable.
That is my licensing requirement as well.See we have to go outside daily, according to licenseing regulations, if weather permits (which can be loosely interpreted). I have decided that 40 is my minimum temp for going outside - although I would much prefer 50, but I don't think 40 degrees "poses a risk" so I don't think it would slide win licensing.
Sometimes I even feel guilty for having it so high at 40, because the childcare weather watch chart seems to think 20/30 is a perfectly fine temperature to take them outside. I just can't do it, I am miserable.
For ME, that means we are going outside unless it is raining or at or over 100 degrees. Anything under 100 where rain isn't involved, we will be outside for some period of time. When it gets into the really hot summer weather, our recess time is switched to the early morning and we tend to play in the shade a lot more with water.
Cradle2crayons 12:48 PM 04-15-2013
I'm not regulated on this but we go outside if its not raining and above 40ish although I don't check a thermometer lol. We also swim most days in the summer. I have quite a bit of shade and my kids would go outside in a hail storm if I'd let them.
DaisyMamma 06:29 AM 04-17-2013
It is the next sched day for DCK. DCK didn't show up!
daycarediva 06:31 AM 04-17-2013
Originally Posted by DaisyMamma:
It is the next sched day for DCK. DCK didn't show up!
I'm just shaking my head over here! Insanity!It is the next sched day for DCK. DCK didn't show up!
DaisyMamma 06:34 AM 04-17-2013
The best part is they paid through the next few weeks plus the standard two weeks deposit
DaisyMamma 06:38 AM 04-17-2013
Oh and its 15 degrees warmer this AM.
youretooloud 07:08 AM 04-17-2013
So, she's been completely pulled from your care because of that? Or is she just waiting out her cold at home.....in her capris.
DaisyMamma 08:27 AM 04-17-2013
Originally Posted by youretooloud:
So, she's been completely pulled from your care because of that? Or is she just waiting out her cold at home.....in her capris.
LOL I have no idea. No call, no show.So, she's been completely pulled from your care because of that? Or is she just waiting out her cold at home.....in her capris.
Michelle 10:24 AM 04-17-2013
Originally Posted by Play Care:
I gotta be honest, I read your post and was like "WHAAAAAT?!" Then I saw you're from California!!
I'm in upstate NY and parents would be furious if we stayed in on a 40 or 50 degree day. It would mean being inside most of the year.
Yea, we California girls are very used to 70-80 degree weather most of the time.I gotta be honest, I read your post and was like "WHAAAAAT?!" Then I saw you're from California!!
I'm in upstate NY and parents would be furious if we stayed in on a 40 or 50 degree day. It would mean being inside most of the year.
We even go to the beach at Christmas time!
But we do have parents that think we live in the Arctic and bring their kids in 4 layers of clothes, winter coat gloves etc. all times of the year and if we didn't "unlayer" them they would probably get heat stroke or something...
DaisyMamma 07:05 AM 04-22-2013
Ok, DCK showed up today!
Awkward drop off. DCM stood around a bit. Obviously wanting to talk about something. Finally questions me about the # of kids I had lasted week (spring break for SA). Admits to doing research on what I'm allowed to have. I wasn't over, I never go over, but I was full that day. AND I mispoke when I told DCD I have 9 other kids here - there was actually 8 others plus him. I'm allowed 9. I even told DCM I mispoke last week.
I can understand the concern and have no problem discussing numbers, regulations, etc with DCP but I wonder if they made any calls - if you know what I mean.
I told them the regs and described my numbers last week. Reassured them I don't go over ever.
Would you be worried?
Awkward drop off. DCM stood around a bit. Obviously wanting to talk about something. Finally questions me about the # of kids I had lasted week (spring break for SA). Admits to doing research on what I'm allowed to have. I wasn't over, I never go over, but I was full that day. AND I mispoke when I told DCD I have 9 other kids here - there was actually 8 others plus him. I'm allowed 9.
I even told DCM I mispoke last week.I can understand the concern and have no problem discussing numbers, regulations, etc with DCP but I wonder if they made any calls - if you know what I mean.
I told them the regs and described my numbers last week. Reassured them I don't go over ever.
Would you be worried?
LittleD 07:08 AM 04-22-2013
Do you have proof of who was there (ie sign in sheet)? If so I wouldn't be too concerned. They may just be fishing for an excuse to pull her out without looking like they are just over protective.
Blackcat31 07:11 AM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by DaisyMamma:
Ok, DCK showed up today!
Awkward drop off. DCM stood around a bit. Obviously wanting to talk about something. Finally questions me about the # of kids I had lasted week (spring break for SA). Admits to doing research on what I'm allowed to have. I wasn't over, I never go over, but I was full that day. AND I mispoke when I told DCD I have 9 other kids here - there was actually 8 others plus him. I'm allowed 9. I even told DCM I mispoke last week.
I can understand the concern and have no problem discussing numbers, regulations, etc with DCP but I wonder if they made any calls - if you know what I mean.
I told them the regs and described my numbers last week. Reassured them I don't go over ever.
Would you be worried?
Ok, first they are concerned about the weather and you being outside and now they are worried about the number of kids you have? Ok, DCK showed up today!
Awkward drop off. DCM stood around a bit. Obviously wanting to talk about something. Finally questions me about the # of kids I had lasted week (spring break for SA). Admits to doing research on what I'm allowed to have. I wasn't over, I never go over, but I was full that day. AND I mispoke when I told DCD I have 9 other kids here - there was actually 8 others plus him. I'm allowed 9.
I even told DCM I mispoke last week.I can understand the concern and have no problem discussing numbers, regulations, etc with DCP but I wonder if they made any calls - if you know what I mean.
I told them the regs and described my numbers last week. Reassured them I don't go over ever.
Would you be worried?
I'm sorry but sounds a little fishy to me....almost sounds like they are looking to pull and are wanting to find a valid reason to maybe get out of any type of notice/payment requirement you have.
I could NOT work with a parent that questioned me so much about my decisions and practices AFTER enrolling.
DaisyMamma 07:14 AM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by LittleD:
Do you have proof of who was there (ie sign in sheet)? If so I wouldn't be too concerned. They may just be fishing for an excuse to pull her out without looking like they are just over protective.
Yes, I do have sign in out sheets! I didn't think of that. Thanks.Do you have proof of who was there (ie sign in sheet)? If so I wouldn't be too concerned. They may just be fishing for an excuse to pull her out without looking like they are just over protective.
Could be right.
Only thing mentioned on cold weather was, We don't mind as long has she has the right clothes (snow suit was mentioned
) Mind you, DCK didn't come with a coat on and the only difference with today's weather is that the sun is out. Its very cold.
Play Care 07:17 AM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by DaisyMamma:
Yes, I do have sign in out sheets! I didn't think of that. Thanks.
Could be right.
Only thing mentioned on cold weather was, We don't mind as long has she has the right clothes (snow suit was mentioned)
Mind you, DCK didn't come with a coat on and the only difference with today's weather is that the sun is out. Its very cold.
I might call my licensor just to make her aware of the situation. But I agree with Blackcat, they seem to be fishing.Yes, I do have sign in out sheets! I didn't think of that. Thanks.
Could be right.
Only thing mentioned on cold weather was, We don't mind as long has she has the right clothes (snow suit was mentioned
) Mind you, DCK didn't come with a coat on and the only difference with today's weather is that the sun is out. Its very cold.
ABCDaycareMN 07:18 AM 04-22-2013
I bet they looked for care elsewhere and couldn't find anything good so they are trying to be knit picky about how you do things. Sounds like they don't want her in home daycare with a lot of Kids. The outside thing was just an excuse.
DaisyMamma 07:18 AM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Ok, first they are concerned about the weather and you being outside and now they are worried about the number of kids you have?
I'm sorry but sounds a little fishy to me....almost sounds like they are looking to pull and are wanting to find a valid reason to maybe get out of any type of notice/payment requirement you have.
I could NOT work with a parent that questioned me so much about my decisions and practices AFTER enrolling.
Exactly. Its going to be uncomfortable now and I don't like that. Ok, first they are concerned about the weather and you being outside and now they are worried about the number of kids you have?
I'm sorry but sounds a little fishy to me....almost sounds like they are looking to pull and are wanting to find a valid reason to maybe get out of any type of notice/payment requirement you have.
I could NOT work with a parent that questioned me so much about my decisions and practices AFTER enrolling.
Its weird.
I was happier when I thought they left.
My policies say 5 business days of no call no show and you're termed. It didn't get that far
I bet I get a 2 WEEK notice as soon as they reach the end of the month, as it was all prepaid and they gave a 2 WEEK deposit.
Blackcat31 07:20 AM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by DaisyMamma:
I bet I get a 2 WEEK notice as soon as they reach the end of the month, as it was all prepaid and they gave a 2 WEEK deposit.
There you go. That's the money shot right there.I bet I get a 2 WEEK notice as soon as they reach the end of the month, as it was all prepaid and they gave a 2 WEEK deposit.
...they have already paid you and can't really ask for a refund just because so they are looking to get their money's worth ( or find a legal loophole) and then they are gone.
I would bet all my money on that being the case.
DaisyMamma 07:20 AM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by ABCDaycareMN:
I bet they looked for care elsewhere and couldn't find anything good so they are trying to be knit picky about how you do things. Sounds like they don't want her in home daycare with a lot of Kids. The outside thing was just an excuse.
Maybe. Infant spots are hard to find.I bet they looked for care elsewhere and couldn't find anything good so they are trying to be knit picky about how you do things. Sounds like they don't want her in home daycare with a lot of Kids. The outside thing was just an excuse.
I bet they want a nanny though.
But also their parents are visiting.
DaisyMamma 07:23 AM 04-22-2013
Now I'm paranoid. Strange car just pulled up.
DaisyMamma 07:27 AM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
There you go. That's the money shot right there.
...they have already paid you and can't really ask for a refund just because so they are looking to get their money's worth ( or find a legal loophole) and then they are gone.
I would bet all my money on that being the case.
I hope so.There you go. That's the money shot right there.
...they have already paid you and can't really ask for a refund just because so they are looking to get their money's worth ( or find a legal loophole) and then they are gone.
I would bet all my money on that being the case.
I have no desire to work with this family any longer.
Play Care 07:34 AM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by DaisyMamma:
I hope so.
I have no desire to work with this family any longer.
I didn't read through to see if you already said this, but why not let them go? "While I love caring for Susie, it has become clear this is not a good fit. I think you might be happier with more individualized care."I hope so.
I have no desire to work with this family any longer.
DaisyMamma 07:36 AM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by Play Care:
I didn't read through to see if you already said this, but why not let them go? "While I love caring for Susie, it has become clear this is not a good fit. I think you might be happier with more individualized care."
I'm considering this as well.I didn't read through to see if you already said this, but why not let them go? "While I love caring for Susie, it has become clear this is not a good fit. I think you might be happier with more individualized care."
DaisyMamma 07:46 AM 04-22-2013
The more I think about it, I bet dad is pushing mom to leave. He wanted a nanny, she wanted a daycare. They started 4 months ago and prepid the whole 4 month. Dad is likely finding anything he can to convince mom since the 4 months is up soon. So whatever, I don't want unhappy clients.
TheGoodLife 08:31 AM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
There you go. That's the money shot right there.
...they have already paid you and can't really ask for a refund just because so they are looking to get their money's worth ( or find a legal loophole) and then they are gone.
I would bet all my money on that being the case.
OT- but I'm just curious, could a family ask for a refund if they prepay and then decide to term? (Anything after the tuition required for the contracted notice, of course)?There you go. That's the money shot right there.
...they have already paid you and can't really ask for a refund just because so they are looking to get their money's worth ( or find a legal loophole) and then they are gone.
I would bet all my money on that being the case.
Blackcat31 08:37 AM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by Mama2Bella:
OT- but I'm just curious, could a family ask for a refund if they prepay and then decide to term? (Anything after the tuition required for the contracted notice, of course)?
I think legally you HAVE to return any money paid to you for services you have NOT provided minus whatever is owed for the required notice period. OT- but I'm just curious, could a family ask for a refund if they prepay and then decide to term? (Anything after the tuition required for the contracted notice, of course)?
Some providers require a two week notice and some require a month. If a family pays you for a whole month and gives a two week notice per your contract agreement, then you would have to refund the remaining balance as you didn't do anything to earn it.....kwim?
I made the comment to Daisymomma because she said the family paid for a month in advance but I assumed she only required a two week notice so if that is the case, she would have to refund them the remaining balance.
EntropyControlSpecialist 10:05 AM 04-22-2013
I hope they make it easy on you and give you a two weeks notice soon.
littlemissmuffet 11:28 AM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by Mama2Bella:
OT- but I'm just curious, could a family ask for a refund if they prepay and then decide to term?
Unless the provider had the parent sign a statement acknowledging that any funds above and beyond the required weekly/bi-weekly/monthly/etc fees were non-refundable than I think legally and morally, the money should be returned. OT- but I'm just curious, could a family ask for a refund if they prepay and then decide to term?
I once had a parent want to pay me the whole years fees! I told her that I would only allow it if she signed a disclaimer that she understood that if childcare services with me ended for any reason before the year was up that no fess would be returned... I'm not a bank!
DaisyMamma 12:38 PM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by Mama2Bella:
OT- but I'm just curious, could a family ask for a refund if they prepay and then decide to term? (Anything after the tuition required for the contracted notice, of course)?
I was wondering this myself.OT- but I'm just curious, could a family ask for a refund if they prepay and then decide to term? (Anything after the tuition required for the contracted notice, of course)?
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
I think legally you HAVE to return any money paid to you for services you have NOT provided minus whatever is owed for the required notice period.
Some providers require a two week notice and some require a month. If a family pays you for a whole month and gives a two week notice per your contract agreement, then you would have to refund the remaining balance as you didn't do anything to earn it.....kwim?
I made the comment to Daisymomma because she said the family paid for a month in advance but I assumed she only required a two week notice so if that is the case, she would have to refund them the remaining balance.
That's what I thought.I think legally you HAVE to return any money paid to you for services you have NOT provided minus whatever is owed for the required notice period.
Some providers require a two week notice and some require a month. If a family pays you for a whole month and gives a two week notice per your contract agreement, then you would have to refund the remaining balance as you didn't do anything to earn it.....kwim?
I made the comment to Daisymomma because she said the family paid for a month in advance but I assumed she only required a two week notice so if that is the case, she would have to refund them the remaining balance.
Originally Posted by littlemissmuffet:
Unless the provider had the parent sign a statement acknowledging that any funds above and beyond the required weekly/bi-weekly/monthly/etc fees were non-refundable than I think legally and morally, the money should be returned.
I once had a parent want to pay me the whole years fees! I told her that I would only allow it if she signed a disclaimer that she understood that if childcare services with me ended for any reason before the year was up that no fess would be returned... I'm not a bank!
I'm going to do this from now on. Do you have a disclaimer written up that you can email me?Unless the provider had the parent sign a statement acknowledging that any funds above and beyond the required weekly/bi-weekly/monthly/etc fees were non-refundable than I think legally and morally, the money should be returned.
I once had a parent want to pay me the whole years fees! I told her that I would only allow it if she signed a disclaimer that she understood that if childcare services with me ended for any reason before the year was up that no fess would be returned... I'm not a bank!
TheGoodLife 12:45 PM 04-22-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
I think legally you HAVE to return any money paid to you for services you have NOT provided minus whatever is owed for the required notice period.
Some providers require a two week notice and some require a month. If a family pays you for a whole month and gives a two week notice per your contract agreement, then you would have to refund the remaining balance as you didn't do anything to earn it.....kwim?
I made the comment to Daisymomma because she said the family paid for a month in advance but I assumed she only required a two week notice so if that is the case, she would have to refund them the remaining balance.
I would return any unpaid money (over the amount required for termimation notice) automatically, I was just wondering. I would never want to keep money over what was rightfully mine I think legally you HAVE to return any money paid to you for services you have NOT provided minus whatever is owed for the required notice period.
Some providers require a two week notice and some require a month. If a family pays you for a whole month and gives a two week notice per your contract agreement, then you would have to refund the remaining balance as you didn't do anything to earn it.....kwim?
I made the comment to Daisymomma because she said the family paid for a month in advance but I assumed she only required a two week notice so if that is the case, she would have to refund them the remaining balance.
Just curious why the parents wouldn't just give notice rather than wait out the prepaid period, if they could get the extra money back, KWIM? That's assuming that they will terminate- which it sounds like OP is hoping for anyway! Well, good luck with the situation, I hope they don't do anything underhanded like try to falsely report you for being over ratio or anything! Hope it all works out!
DaisyMamma 06:15 AM 04-24-2013
So far DCK is a no call no show today. Arrival is 830, its now 920. Mon. They showed at 915 though. Naturally I'm awaiting their arrival outside its 43 right now.
its 43 right now.