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bunnyslippers 09:06 AM 12-04-2012
DCD drops off today and says, "Hey, DCM is picking up between 1:30 and 2:30 today. Just keep her up during naptime instead of putting her down. Let her hang out with you".

OK, we nap here from 1-3. So, NOOOOO, I will not keep her up for the duration of nap. And who gives an HOUR window for an early pickup? And how about a please at the end of your request?!??!

I have truly had it with people thinking they can dictate my day because they pay me. This is MY house, and we follow MY schedule. If you don't like it, find another daycare. I am not their nanny. This is a scheduled child care program. We have a schedule for a reason! And I refuse to alter it for one child

I know they want me to keep her up so she will sleep on the ride to where they are going tonight. Sorry folks, but I am not going to take away my only 2 hours of quiet that I get every day so they can have a quiet car ride later.

I am just SO over this lately!!!!!
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countrymom 09:09 AM 12-04-2012
I would lay the child down and when the parents arrive the wake the child up because we all know that the parents are never going to show up when they are suppose too.
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lovemykidstoo 09:14 AM 12-04-2012
I agree, so what did you tell him?
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SunshineMama 09:22 AM 12-04-2012
Originally Posted by bunnyslippers:
DCD drops off today and says, "Hey, DCM is picking up between 1:30 and 2:30 today. Just keep her up during naptime instead of putting her down. Let her hang out with you".

OK, we nap here from 1-3. So, NOOOOO, I will not keep her up for the duration of nap. And who gives an HOUR window for an early pickup? And how about a please at the end of your request?!??!

I have truly had it with people thinking they can dictate my day because they pay me. This is MY house, and we follow MY schedule. If you don't like it, find another daycare. I am not their nanny. This is a scheduled child care program. We have a schedule for a reason! And I refuse to alter it for one child

I know they want me to keep her up so she will sleep on the ride to where they are going tonight. Sorry folks, but I am not going to take away my only 2 hours of quiet that I get every day so they can have a quiet car ride later.

I am just SO over this lately!!!!!
I made the mistake of keeping a child up at naptime per the parents request. The parent was an hour late, and I lost my only moments of quiet "me" time, providing 1:1 care for this child when they should have been napping. Then, parents were loud, and woke up the other kids early. Everyone was grumpy.
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Mom&Provider 09:23 AM 12-04-2012
I agree with the others as well. If you are overly worried about it, I'd put the child down a bit earlier and wake them up about 1/2 way through the expected pick-up time. Is the Mom wanting her child to nap with her vs with you or are they going out somewhere? Very odd...why pick-up during nap time...just come after nap which would still be early!?

I had this happen once, only it was just an early pick-up, supposed to happen at 3pm...no one came until 4:30!?
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bunnyslippers 09:27 AM 12-04-2012
The DCM just texted me. "Hey, do you think she will make it without a nap today?" I responded, "No, and I am not keeping her up. I will wake her when you get here." Mom responded "OK. I will be there at 2:30."
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lovemykidstoo 09:29 AM 12-04-2012
how old is she?
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bunnyslippers 09:36 AM 12-04-2012
2!!!!! And she naps every day!

I will guarantee they wanted me to keep her up so she would sleep in the car for them later. They are all about their "me" time, and have an outing planned with her this evening. I am sure they were hoping she would take a long nap in the car.

Just so sick of the entitled parents lately. They are NOT in charge of me, my home, or my business.
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MarinaVanessa 09:53 AM 12-04-2012
Good for you!!

If I had this request and my naptime was from 1-3pm not only would I have refused to keep her awake like you did but I also have a rule against not picking up during naptime so I wouldve told DCD that DCM either had to pick up before 1pm or after 3pm, not in between.
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crazydaycarelady 10:04 AM 12-04-2012
What? Your life doesn't revolve around little Pooky??? LOL
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EntropyControlSpecialist 10:24 AM 12-04-2012
Originally Posted by MarinaVanessa:
Good for you!!

If I had this request and my naptime was from 1-3pm not only would I have refused to keep her awake like you did but I also have a rule against not picking up during naptime so I wouldve told DCD that DCM either had to pick up before 1pm or after 3pm, not in between.
ABSOLUTELY!

In fact, I just sent out a new schedule of our day and underneath "rest time" is an italicized sentence that reads, "No pick ups are permitted during this time!"
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lovemykidstoo 10:26 AM 12-04-2012
Originally Posted by bunnyslippers:
2!!!!! And she naps every day!

I will guarantee they wanted me to keep her up so she would sleep in the car for them later. They are all about their "me" time, and have an outing planned with her this evening. I am sure they were hoping she would take a long nap in the car.

Just so sick of the entitled parents lately. They are NOT in charge of me, my home, or my business.
I've had some parents in the past want me to withhold nap because of that reason. They were heading on vacation or something and wanted the child to sleep in the car. It was never more than like 15 minutes into naptime though. I wouldn't keep a child up for 3/4 of the naptime, no way.
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LK5kids 10:28 AM 12-04-2012
Nice thing is my state regs. require that children lay down. Unless parent is picking up by 12:30 I state it's required. We nap 12:30-2:30. Only bad thing is I have to allow kids to get up who do not fall asleep in a 1/2 hour.
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littlemissmuffet 10:32 AM 12-04-2012
Originally Posted by bunnyslippers:
DCD drops off today and says, "Hey, DCM is picking up between 1:30 and 2:30 today. Just keep her up during naptime instead of putting her down. Let her hang out with you".

OK, we nap here from 1-3. So, NOOOOO, I will not keep her up for the duration of nap. And who gives an HOUR window for an early pickup? And how about a please at the end of your request?!??!

I have truly had it with people thinking they can dictate my day because they pay me. This is MY house, and we follow MY schedule. If you don't like it, find another daycare. I am not their nanny. This is a scheduled child care program. We have a schedule for a reason! And I refuse to alter it for one child

I know they want me to keep her up so she will sleep on the ride to where they are going tonight. Sorry folks, but I am not going to take away my only 2 hours of quiet that I get every day so they can have a quiet car ride later.

I am just SO over this lately!!!!!
"Joe, I gotta tell ya - I don't appreciate being told what to do by my clients. Next time you have a special request, please ask. Also, I won't be keeping little Sue up from nap - and I don't allow nap time pick ups. Both of these policies are clearly stated in my handbook. You can either pick Sue up at 1pm before nap, or at 3pm when nap ends. Let me know either way - the door's locked during nap and I don't answer for anyone. See you later."
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Texasjeepgirl 11:03 AM 12-04-2012
from my PARENT HANDBOOK

NAPTIME
All children are expected to nap each day. Older children are allowed to watch movies, while the younger children sleep. Please do not ask for child to be allowed to 'stay up'. This rest period is as much for me as for the children. Naptime begins around noon, (as soon as they leave the lunch table), and lasts until 3:00 p.m. There will be no drop offs or departures during naptime. If you must schedule a doctor's appointment for your child, you'll need to pick them up before naptime begins or after it is over.

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MNMum 11:33 AM 12-04-2012
I'm getting my new handbook and contracts ready...just added a few sentances pertaining to this matter! Thanks!
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bunnyslippers 11:35 AM 12-04-2012
OK Ladies...here is the kicker! They are my neighbors. Just watched DCM stroll over in jeans and a sweatshirt. I said, "Did you work today?" She tells me she has been home since noon. So has DCD.

SO, not only did they try to dictate how my day would go, but it was avoidable- they were HOME!!!!!! They could have picked her up BEFORE nap, and had her sleep at home.

I truly do not understand people. At all. I am so ready to be done with this whole job!!!!!!
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LaLa1923 02:32 PM 12-04-2012
Originally Posted by bunnyslippers:
OK Ladies...here is the kicker! They are my neighbors. Just watched DCM stroll over in jeans and a sweatshirt. I said, "Did you work today?" She tells me she has been home since noon. So has DCD.

SO, not only did they try to dictate how my day would go, but it was avoidable- they were HOME!!!!!! They could have picked her up BEFORE nap, and had her sleep at home.

I truly do not understand people. At all. I am so ready to be done with this whole job!!!!!!
This is the reason why most providers around here (myself included)-
We do not care for neighbors children or family/friends.
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lovemykidstoo 04:16 PM 12-04-2012
Originally Posted by bunnyslippers:
OK Ladies...here is the kicker! They are my neighbors. Just watched DCM stroll over in jeans and a sweatshirt. I said, "Did you work today?" She tells me she has been home since noon. So has DCD.

SO, not only did they try to dictate how my day would go, but it was avoidable- they were HOME!!!!!! They could have picked her up BEFORE nap, and had her sleep at home.

I truly do not understand people. At all. I am so ready to be done with this whole job!!!!!!
OMG!!! So dear daddy could have taken her home and "let her hang out with them" instead of take a nap? UGH!!! Some people. I can imagine your eyes rolling when she said that!
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bunnyslippers 05:21 AM 12-05-2012
Originally Posted by LaLa1923:
This is the reason why most providers around here (myself included)-
We do not care for neighbors children or family/friends.
I wish I didn't have friend's and neighbor's children, but with my daycare model it is unavoidable. We live in a very small town, and I only take teacher's children. Everyone knows everyone else!

The DCD just dropped off his little angel for today. He tells me, "Hey, she needs to go down for her nap much earlier today, probably at 11. We had her up really late last night."

I responded, "I can't do an earlier nap for her. My schedule is not something I can change to accomodate one child. If she is really too tired to make it until 1:00, I will give you a call and someone can pick her up."

Again, baffling. I have had this child since she was 12 weeks old. Her parents know the drill around here.
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lovemykidstoo 05:30 AM 12-05-2012
Originally Posted by bunnyslippers:
I wish I didn't have friend's and neighbor's children, but with my daycare model it is unavoidable. We live in a very small town, and I only take teacher's children. Everyone knows everyone else!

The DCD just dropped off his little angel for today. He tells me, "Hey, she needs to go down for her nap much earlier today, probably at 11. We had her up really late last night."

I responded, "I can't do an earlier nap for her. My schedule is not something I can change to accomodate one child. If she is really too tired to make it until 1:00, I will give you a call and someone can pick her up."

Again, baffling. I have had this child since she was 12 weeks old. Her parents know the drill around here.
Oh my Lord, what is wrong with him? How late did they have her up? Why is that your problem? Did he shush after you told him that?
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bunnyslippers 05:55 AM 12-05-2012
He just went on his way. I really don't understand this family. They take days off and stay home, while she is here. He works on his yard, and she can see him from my yard. The dude doesn't even wave to her.

They got home at 10 last night. Not my problem, and I am not altering my day in any way because of it!
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littlemissmuffet 10:59 AM 12-05-2012
Originally Posted by bunnyslippers:
He just went on his way. I really don't understand this family. They take days off and stay home, while she is here. He works on his yard, and she can see him from my yard. The dude doesn't even wave to her.

They got home at 10 last night. Not my problem, and I am not altering my day in any way because of it!
You really need to put these parents in there place and tell them that they need to ASK for things, not tell you - and then follow up by saying NO when they ask.

Secondly, I only take kiddos when parents are at work - unless there is an appointent - then the child can come for a PORTION of the day. You might want to try and implement this. I CANNOT stand parents leaving kids here when they don't need to... I know many providers are ok with it, but I'm not.
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Hazel 01:18 PM 12-05-2012
Ok, so I had watched a friends infant for a bit, and she would come on her lunch to visit.. Which wouldn't be bad except it was in the middle of the baby's nap! I'd tell her she was asleep and she would want to just "peek".. But she forgot I used a baby monitor! (baby slept in my bedroom) I would hear her wake the baby! Then she'd spend 10 mins with her and leave me with a screaming baby! Finally my assistant stepped up and complained to her and my friend became furious! Decided that she didn't want the baby upstairs anymore. Well... Baby wouldn't SLEEP downstairs. She would see the other kids and yell, squeal, laugh and make a fuss.. Thus keeping herself and EVERYONE else awake! After a week I told the father that she hadnt slept ALL day and he laughed! Said "good, that means she'll sleep for us tonight!" seriously? She was 8 months old! She needed at least one nap, if not two! And she was miserable by 5 pm pick up! I finally tried to talk to my friend and she blew up at me and pulled her kid. That was 6 years ago and we still don't speak to each other... No more watching friends kids!
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wahmof3 01:32 PM 12-05-2012
Originally Posted by littlemissmuffet:
You really need to put these parents in there place and tell them that they need to ASK for things, not tell you - and then follow up by saying NO when they ask.

Secondly, I only take kiddos when parents are at work - unless there is an appointent - then the child can come for a PORTION of the day. You might want to try and implement this. I CANNOT stand parents leaving kids here when they don't need to... I know many providers are ok with it, but I'm not.
I totally FEEL this way too- I just have a very hard time enforcing it when the DCP are paying for a space. So I am coming to terms with it. I have 1 DCF that always always does this to me, its so bad I wonder if DCD still has a job. What infuriates me is when they are repeatedly late when I request a certain pick-up and they aren't working. So DISRESPECTFUL.

How do you enforce this policy?

OP- I have this exact same family!!! Exact same. Did I say exact same family?
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melilley 01:37 PM 12-05-2012
Originally Posted by bunnyslippers:
OK Ladies...here is the kicker! They are my neighbors. Just watched DCM stroll over in jeans and a sweatshirt. I said, "Did you work today?" She tells me she has been home since noon. So has DCD.

SO, not only did they try to dictate how my day would go, but it was avoidable- they were HOME!!!!!! They could have picked her up BEFORE nap, and had her sleep at home.

I truly do not understand people. At all. I am so ready to be done with this whole job!!!!!!
What, you have to be kidding me! or How about the parents who bring their kids in late because they have the day off and the child comes in screaming and wakes everyone up! This happened to me when I worked in a center. I see that many people have adopted a policy of when the children can and can't be dropped off or picked up. How does that work? Sorry, a little off subject!
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melilley 01:46 PM 12-05-2012
I think it's so sad when families bring their children to daycare when they have the day off. I can see maybe every once in a while bring them for a little bit to shop or whatever, but not for the whole day unless you really have something such as an appointment where the child can't go. I've had a few families at a center that I used to work at that would bring their child every day that they had off. I would feel guilty if I did that to my kids! I guess they feel that they pay for their child to be there so they're going to be there! To each their own I guess. I can't believe the father was outside and the little girl could see him! I know it is hard to do work with the kids around, but I have 2 and seem to manage! Maybe that's because I'm used to having to multitask with more than one child?
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Bookworm 02:39 PM 12-05-2012
Originally Posted by melilley:
What, you have to be kidding me! or How about the parents who bring their kids in late because they have the day off and the child comes in screaming and wakes everyone up! This happened to me when I worked in a center. I see that many people have adopted a policy of when the children can and can't be dropped off or picked up. How does that work? Sorry, a little off subject!
My center just started that policy a year ago and some parents still try to to sneak in.
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littlemissmuffet 02:59 PM 12-05-2012
Originally Posted by wahmof3:
I totally FEEL this way too- I just have a very hard time enforcing it when the DCP are paying for a space. So I am coming to terms with it. I have 1 DCF that always always does this to me, its so bad I wonder if DCD still has a job. What infuriates me is when they are repeatedly late when I request a certain pick-up and they aren't working. So DISRESPECTFUL.

How do you enforce this policy?

OP- I have this exact same family!!! Exact same. Did I say exact same family?
First, during the interview process, I ask if either parent has days off during the week (it's common in my area to have Fridays and Mondays off in some companies) - and if they answer yes, I direct them to page one of my handbook where it discusses that I only provide services to working (or in school) parents and I believe parents should be with their children outside of work time. Getting this out there right off the bat help curbing the issue.

Secondly, if a parent starts bringing their child on a day off and mention they aren't going to work I will say something like "Oh, you're not working today? Ok, so you will be picking up early then right?" or something similar to drive home the point that I am uncomfortable with their child being here unneccesarily.

Between the two of these techniques parents will learn to NOT tell me they have a day off. They won't necessarily lie (they know this would piss me off to no end) but they will omit talking about it - which is what I prefer. Sorry, I don't want to know you are out getting your hair done or getting a massage or going back home to sleep while I am here watching YOUR kid Yes, it's my job, and yes, you pay me - but in my eyes I am providing a service to working parents only, and it's my right to limit my services to strictly working parents.
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DaisyMamma 03:28 AM 12-06-2012
Originally Posted by SunshineMama:
I made the mistake of keeping a child up at naptime per the parents request. The parent was an hour late, and I lost my only moments of quiet "me" time, providing 1:1 care for this child when they should have been napping. Then, parents were loud, and woke up the other kids early. Everyone was grumpy.
Lesson learned I guess?
What did you say to them for waking everyone up?
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My3cents 04:31 AM 12-06-2012
Originally Posted by littlemissmuffet:
First, during the interview process, I ask if either parent has days off during the week (it's common in my area to have Fridays and Mondays off in some companies) - and if they answer yes, I direct them to page one of my handbook where it discusses that I only provide services to working (or in school) parents and I believe parents should be with their children outside of work time. Getting this out there right off the bat help curbing the issue.

Secondly, if a parent starts bringing their child on a day off and mention they aren't going to work I will say something like "Oh, you're not working today? Ok, so you will be picking up early then right?" or something similar to drive home the point that I am uncomfortable with their child being here unneccesarily.

Between the two of these techniques parents will learn to NOT tell me they have a day off. They won't necessarily lie (they know this would piss me off to no end) but they will omit talking about it - which is what I prefer. Sorry, I don't want to know you are out getting your hair done or getting a massage or going back home to sleep while I am here watching YOUR kid Yes, it's my job, and yes, you pay me - but in my eyes I am providing a service to working parents only, and it's my right to limit my services to strictly working parents.
first I want to say that I love that you implement this in your program. I try, but I am not as straight forward about this as you are. I guess because I do have an understanding of where the parent is coming from and I don't have parents that abuse it. If a parent is upfront with me that they need a break and they are off from work, but are going to be doing xyz- I am ok with that. Again--- I don't have parents that are abusing it. I do see the parent's side of things that they are paying for the care so why not use that time as they wish. I just want to know where the parent is in case of an emergency. If I had someone abusing this, I would no doubt say something, because it is in my policy book- If your home from work or school, your child should be with you. I have parents that stop and pick a few things up from the store, because it is easier then dragging a tired out little one, that just wants to go home and be with a tired out Mom and Dad. Do I take my own kids into the store with me- yes. I have understanding that not everyone has the same way of thinking or doing things as I do. Again, my parents don't abuse this and do like being with their child-
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bunnyslippers 05:04 AM 12-06-2012
Originally Posted by My3cents:
first I want to say that I love that you implement this in your program. I try, but I am not as straight forward about this as you are. I guess because I do have an understanding of where the parent is coming from and I don't have parents that abuse it. If a parent is upfront with me that they need a break and they are off from work, but are going to be doing xyz- I am ok with that. Again--- I don't have parents that are abusing it. I do see the parent's side of things that they are paying for the care so why not use that time as they wish. I just want to know where the parent is in case of an emergency. If I had someone abusing this, I would no doubt say something, because it is in my policy book- If your home from work or school, your child should be with you. -
Such an interesting point. I understand the need once in a while. This one particular family, the dad takes a day off a week to be home alone, until the summer. His daughter is home all summer (I am closed, mom works school year schedule). Come summer...works every day of the week! It just repulses me!!!!!

Another story - last year, the mom and dad both took the day off from work and traveled out of state for lunch. They didn't tell me! I only founf out because another neighbor told my husband in passing (again, very small town). They were 2 hours away!!!! What if I had an emergency?!??! I confronted them on that one. They were a bit surprised by my frustration.
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Kaddidle Care 05:05 AM 12-06-2012
Originally Posted by bunnyslippers:
OK Ladies...here is the kicker! They are my neighbors. Just watched DCM stroll over in jeans and a sweatshirt. I said, "Did you work today?" She tells me she has been home since noon. So has DCD.

SO, not only did they try to dictate how my day would go, but it was avoidable- they were HOME!!!!!! They could have picked her up BEFORE nap, and had her sleep at home.

I truly do not understand people. At all. I am so ready to be done with this whole job!!!!!!
Ah yes but if she was there they couldn't "work" on making another child for you to watch. Sorry, that was what came to mind when you said they were both home without their child.
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My3cents 06:24 AM 12-06-2012
Originally Posted by Kaddidle Care:
Ah yes but if she was there they couldn't "work" on making another child for you to watch. Sorry, that was what came to mind when you said they were both home without their child.
Thanks for the chuckle---

but seriously could be true- sometimes parents just getting a moment to connect with each other is hard, because of schedules, working etc...

You come to know who is taking advantage and who truly needs a break for whatever reason.

tee hee- on the same token, parents remember us providers love it when you pick up early and give us a break from our daily grind.


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My3cents 06:37 AM 12-06-2012
Originally Posted by bunnyslippers:
Such an interesting point. I understand the need once in a while. This one particular family, the dad takes a day off a week to be home alone, until the summer. His daughter is home all summer (I am closed, mom works school year schedule). Come summer...works every day of the week! It just repulses me!!!!!

Another story - last year, the mom and dad both took the day off from work and traveled out of state for lunch. They didn't tell me! I only founf out because another neighbor told my husband in passing (again, very small town). They were 2 hours away!!!! What if I had an emergency?!??! I confronted them on that one. They were a bit surprised by my frustration.
I would be upset with this too- Called them out on it and everything.

I was clear at my interviews about my policy of the child being home if the parent is not working or in school, but if something does come up that they are not going to be at school or work to let me know ahead of time. For emergency purposes I need to know how to reach the parent. Cell phones are not always charged, on the person or on, etc... I want to know where the parent is going to be if I need to get a hold of them. I have had parents tell me they are going to be home for the day to get a bunch of cleaning done or R and R, or sick or out of town. They ask me nicely and that tone sets the difference for understanding right there. IF I had clients that disrespected me or took advantage- I wouldn't think twice about calling them out on it and putting a stop to it.
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littlemissmuffet 06:59 AM 12-06-2012
Originally Posted by My3cents:
first I want to say that I love that you implement this in your program. I try, but I am not as straight forward about this as you are. I guess because I do have an understanding of where the parent is coming from and I don't have parents that abuse it. If a parent is upfront with me that they need a break and they are off from work, but are going to be doing xyz- I am ok with that. Again--- I don't have parents that are abusing it. I do see the parent's side of things that they are paying for the care so why not use that time as they wish. I just want to know where the parent is in case of an emergency. If I had someone abusing this, I would no doubt say something, because it is in my policy book- If your home from work or school, your child should be with you. I have parents that stop and pick a few things up from the store, because it is easier then dragging a tired out little one, that just wants to go home and be with a tired out Mom and Dad. Do I take my own kids into the store with me- yes. I have understanding that not everyone has the same way of thinking or doing things as I do. Again, my parents don't abuse this and do like being with their child-
I agree that once in awhile it's completely acceptable to go and do your own thing and leave your kiddo with someone else - I get that, I even support that. However, there are PLENTY of parents out there who if there was no discussion on this topic or had no policies regarding children coming on their days off would have their children here every single day off, all day long. I think we very much live in a world now where you give someone an inch and they take a mile... so I don't even bother giving that inch. KWIM?

I just have a very hard time wrapping my head around a child not being with family outside of necessary work time. My husband and I are extremely family orientated and the whole reason I even started doing home daycare was so that our child could be raised by us. We don't plan on having a babysitter outside of close family members and we very much intend to take our child wherever we go when possible - when not possible, one of us will be home with child. Date nights, one of our mothers or siblings will be with baby. I know it isn't easy - but being a parent isn't easy and I think way too many people don't take the responsibility of their own child(ren) seriously enough.

Again, once in awhile - fine. But *those* aren't the parents I'm trying to prevent having conflict with by implementing a care during work/school hours only policy

I understand that other daycare providers here may feel differently and not care what parents are doing while their kids are in care as long as they are getting paid and I totally respect that - I am not judging either way.
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My3cents 07:31 AM 12-06-2012
Originally Posted by littlemissmuffet:
I agree that once in awhile it's completely acceptable to go and do your own thing and leave your kiddo with someone else - I get that, I even support that. However, there are PLENTY of parents out there who if there was no discussion on this topic or had no policies regarding children coming on their days off would have their children here every single day off, all day long. I think we very much live in a world now where you give someone an inch and they take a mile... so I don't even bother giving that inch. KWIM?I do know what you mean and totally agree. This should be covered at interviews and clear in policy books. When I have issues, I throw out a newsletter that targets all the parents and covers the policy again, no one feels singled out, point gets across. If this doesn't work, then I pull the client aside and say let's talk, this is not working for me-

I just have a very hard time wrapping my head around a child not being with family outside of necessary work time. My husband and I are extremely family orientated and the whole reason I even started doing home daycare was so that our child could be raised by us.This is how you run your family. Not everyone runs, thinks, does the same as you or I. I too have a hard time to wrap my head around this. Then again I have seen some parents that are better parents working this way. They would drive their own children and themselves nuts being "together" all the time. We don't plan on having a babysitter outside of close family members and we very much intend to take our child wherever we go when possible - when not possible, one of us will be home with child. Date nights, one of our mothers or siblings will be with baby. I know it isn't easy - but being a parent isn't easy and I think way too many people don't take the responsibility of their own child(ren) seriously enough. See I agree with you and we are the same type of family,esp when the children were younger. I think some parents feel they are responsible by sending their child to someone that cares, a loving home, and someone that can give more to the child then they actually can. It doesn't make them irresponsible, it is not my choice for my family and what I want. Then you have parents that are brainless!

Again, once in awhile - fine. But *those* aren't the parents I'm trying to prevent having conflict with by implementing a care during work/school hours only policy exactly!!!

I understand that other daycare providers here may feel differently and not care what parents are doing while their kids are in care as long as they are getting paid and I totally respect that - I am not judging either way. me either, not judging just saying what works for me and I am right along the lines of you. I care to know for emergency reasons and I make it known that I prefer that if the parent is not working or in school that the child should be home with the parents. I also explain to parents that their child is growing so fast that the time they are little you just can't get that back, enjoy it with them even if it is a lot of work.
I agree with you too-

I responded above in red
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littlemissmuffet 07:41 AM 12-06-2012
3cents - Oh yes, I forgot to mention that all of my current parents have cellphones and that is the best way to reach them - so, no matter where they are, I do have access to getting ahold of them.

As for your responses, I know not everyone thinks or feels the way I do, and that's fine... I do really try hard to find daycare families that mesh with mine and my husband's parenting styles and beliefs as much as possible though to avoid alot of uneccesary headbutting and drama. I wish I could be more like blackcat and accept that we as providers really have no say in how children are raised outside of our care but I still struggle with that quite a bit.

I really appreciate your insight and a fresh perspective. Thank you
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Dsquared 05:25 PM 12-10-2012
Unfortuneatly, my wife has had several sets of parents like this. The WORST was a lady who brought her 4 month old and was carrying on and crying about having to leave her kid in daycare, she felt sooooo guilty. 2 weeks later I was out running an errand for my wife around 1 pm. I saw this mom in Target in a tee shirt and sweat pants (obviously not work attire). I said "Jane, what are YOU doing here?" The response..... "Oh, I'm just killing time." You think after the BIG production she put on at our home that she would want to spend free time/days off with her daughter. Needless to say that pattern continued.

Second set of parents got their days off duirng the week. They ALWAYS dropped off their kid for DC, 5 days a week.

Everyone/couple deserves a day now and then but I just don't know why people like these have kids
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momma2girls 12:41 PM 12-17-2012
I had to put this very same thing in my contract. I do not allow pickups or drop offs during naptime. Please do not pick up or drop off child between the hrs. of 1-3
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MamaG 02:16 PM 12-17-2012
Originally Posted by littlemissmuffet:
"Joe, I gotta tell ya - I don't appreciate being told what to do by my clients. Next time you have a special request, please ask. Also, I won't be keeping little Sue up from nap - and I don't allow nap time pick ups. Both of these policies are clearly stated in my handbook. You can either pick Sue up at 1pm before nap, or at 3pm when nap ends. Let me know either way - the door's locked during nap and I don't answer for anyone. See you later."
If my child's provider locked the door and didn't answer after calling the cops I'd prolly break the door down, or a window. Nobody keeps me from my kids for any reason. I politely ask for no pick ups or drop offs during quiet time but if a dcp insists it must, they can choose to pick up or drop off but not both during that time. If it happens often I'd terminate on grounds of not fitting into my program.
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grandmom 02:49 PM 12-17-2012
Originally Posted by LK5kids:
Nice thing is my state regs. require that children lay down. Unless parent is picking up by 12:30 I state it's required. We nap 12:30-2:30. Only bad thing is I have to allow kids to get up who do not fall asleep in a 1/2 hour.
Can they tell time? Do they know the half hour is up?
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