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worriedandstuckmom 05:18 PM 02-26-2015
So my son is 3 and a half and has been at this daycare for about 1 and a half yrs. It was going really well. The last 6 months or so I'm seeing and hearing things I don't like. For example I've been trying very hard to get him potty trained well he keeps getting sent home with a pull up on and they say it's cause he won't take it off after nap. I told them he doesnt even have pullups here and shouldnt be wearing them they said its there personal stash and there excuse is they have alot of kids to take care of so it's hard to remember everything. When he comes home in underwear there is always streaks on them cause they tell me they don't help them go to the bathroom so he isn't wiping good I asked them to help him he is young and just learning and they just simply say they don't help the kids.
My other major concern is that one of the providers told me they don't do timeouts they will seperate the kids distract them and in some circumstances they told me they have held my son and other children down in there lap kicking and screaming until they are calmed down is this legit? Shouldnt they have a different form of timeouts?
They also get paid for 50 hours a week to keep him but keep asking me to pick him up early on Fridays cause he is the last kid there and there teachers wanna go home. I get him at 530 they dont even close until 545.
I am a 25 yr old single mom. I left his father over 2 yrs ago and another guy who my son called daddy I left about 4 months ago. My son has been acting out and angry with me so he sees a therapists now they have suggested alot but as an example anytime he does something good no matter how small he gets a reward. Well he slept all night with no diaper on for the first time and didn't wet the bed so I let him pick any breakfast snack and any toy to bring to daycare. He picked a blueberry muffin and a Nascar toy. The teacher in the morning was fine with it when I went and picked him up one of the head ladies came at me with an attitude in front of my son and told me to never bring a toy in again she doesn't care why. And also that a blueberry muffin isn't healthy enough for a morning snack. I told her I'm going thru alot at home and I need to stick with the rewards thing all the time and I'm not gunna change it to make her happy. My son and his happiness and well being come first she didn't like it and she walked away from me.
There has been times he has come home with bite marks on him. They tell me about it but for the same child to be biting him 5 times now I feel something needs to be done asap! They just say they have talked to the parents.
This dayacre has helped me alot schedule wise and money wise if I get behind a week or two they work with me. But there r some very concerning things to me that I need some advice if I'm just being a crazy mom or if these are legit concerns. My son loves his friends there and has definitely learned alot from them. I'm stuck on what to think here...new daycare, keep trying to talk with them?! I'm just not sure!
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Shell 06:24 PM 02-26-2015
I think many of your concerns are valid, and it sounds like it's time to find a new place for your child.
It just sounds like the teachers are burnt out and not giving it their all and possibly have more kids than they can handle. You want the best for your child, and I believe moving on is in your and your child's best interest.
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Controlled Chaos 09:55 PM 02-26-2015
There are several red flags there.
I would be shopping for a new provider.

I don't help potty trained kids wipe once they are fully potty trained and have learned how to wipe. (Anywhere between 2 1/2 and 3 1/2 yo). I was instructed to hold a tantruming child in the hold you described, but this was a specific child with huge behavior problems and it was a plan arrived at with the parents and a behavior specialist. It is not something I would use as a normal discipline procedure.

By letting you pay late they (and you) took away a level of professionalism allowing them to feel as if you owe them and should pick up early to help them out.
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nanglgrl 10:58 PM 02-26-2015
First of all you said he shouldn't be wearing pullups at nap but then said he got a reward for going through the whole night without wetting the bed. I'm sure you understand that children that aren't night trained may also have accidents at nap therefore they would need to wear a pull up during nap for sanitary reasons. You are lucky they are providing them. I don't know why they aren't taking them off after nap and I would discuss that with them.

I don't wipe children once they are fully trained and never after 3 years old. IMO they are starting to learn that those are private parts and that no one should touch them. You need to work with him on wiping. He will never learn how to wipe well if someone is doing it for him. Practice makes perfect.

As far as not using time outs and using redirection that's a great way to curb bad behavior. If the child is being held down I would ask about the circumstances in more detail. What instances would require this technique? Is he a danger to himself of others during these tantrums? Is he being gently held and comforted or completely restricted and disciplined?

It's incredibly common for daycare not to allow toys and snacks from home. It doesn't matter that the therapist thinks he needs these things, the therapist didn't say he needs to take them with him to places they are not allowed. Toys and snacks from home cause problems. The child often doesn't want to share the toy, the toy might not be age appropriate (choking hazard) to other children in the room, the toy could get broken, lost or stolen. Food from home can cause problems with another chils allergies, it can cause other children to tantrum because they don't have that food, it can cause them to decline the food the daycare offers. The big problem here is that the staff didnt confront you in the morning about this.

If they are open until a certain time and have asked you to pick up early and it's not a possibility for you then tell them that. Tell them if they insist you will have to find new arrangements. If your child can be picked up early do it, children shouldn't be in care any longer than they need to be. Ask most providers and they will say that the children left in care from open to close just because the parents are paying for it are usually the children with the most discipline problems. The daycare knows your child is the last one there and so does your child. Everyone else's mommies and daddies came, why didn't mine?

Unfortunately biting is quite common and maybe even more common in centers. It's great that they've made you aware of each bite. Have the bites happened all at once? Was there weeks between the bites? Was it the same child who was biting? I would definitely be concerned if my child was constantly being attacked by the same child. You have to understand that often biting happens in an instant. I've had a child lean in for a hug only to turn in a split second and bite. If it's the same child doing it every time and it's happened a lot in a short time I would tell them you need to know how they are going to prevent it. If it's different children and over a longer time span you have to realize that it's just something that's going to happen in a center where there are a lot of children per caregiver and a lot of space.
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Play Care 03:09 AM 02-27-2015
Originally Posted by nanglgrl:
First of all you said he shouldn't be wearing pullups at nap but then said he got a reward for going through the whole night without wetting the bed. I'm sure you understand that children that aren't night trained may also have accidents at nap therefore they would need to wear a pull up during nap for sanitary reasons. You are lucky they are providing them. I don't know why they aren't taking them off after nap and I would discuss that with them.

I don't wipe children once they are fully trained and never after 3 years old. IMO they are starting to learn that those are private parts and that no one should touch them. You need to work with him on wiping. He will never learn how to wipe well if someone is doing it for him. Practice makes perfect.

As far as not using time outs and using redirection that's a great way to curb bad behavior. If the child is being held down I would ask about the circumstances in more detail. What instances would require this technique? Is he a danger to himself of others during these tantrums? Is he being gently held and comforted or completely restricted and disciplined?

It's incredibly common for daycare not to allow toys and snacks from home. It doesn't matter that the therapist thinks he needs these things, the therapist didn't say he needs to take them with him to places they are not allowed. Toys and snacks from home cause problems. The child often doesn't want to share the toy, the toy might not be age appropriate (choking hazard) to other children in the room, the toy could get broken, lost or stolen. Food from home can cause problems with another chils allergies, it can cause other children to tantrum because they don't have that food, it can cause them to decline the food the daycare offers. The big problem here is that the staff didnt confront you in the morning about this.

If they are open until a certain time and have asked you to pick up early and it's not a possibility for you then tell them that. Tell them if they insist you will have to find new arrangements. If your child can be picked up early do it, children shouldn't be in care any longer than they need to be. Ask most providers and they will say that the children left in care from open to close just because the parents are paying for it are usually the children with the most discipline problems. The daycare knows your child is the last one there and so does your child. Everyone else's mommies and daddies came, why didn't mine?

Unfortunately biting is quite common and maybe even more common in centers. It's great that they've made you aware of each bite. Have the bites happened all at once? Was there weeks between the bites? Was it the same child who was biting? I would definitely be concerned if my child was constantly being attacked by the same child. You have to understand that often biting happens in an instant. I've had a child lean in for a hug only to turn in a split second and bite. If it's the same child doing it every time and it's happened a lot in a short time I would tell them you need to know how they are going to prevent it. If it's different children and over a longer time span you have to realize that it's just something that's going to happen in a center where there are a lot of children per caregiver and a lot of space.
Mostly this.
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Josiegirl 03:21 AM 02-27-2015
I agree completely with everything nanglgirl said. BUT if you feel your child's care is lacking, then that's legitimate too. And might be time to look for other care. Maybe a smaller setting. At least it'll rid him of the biter but do realize biting does happen with toddlers and group care.
I don't allow them to bring their own treats, unless they bring enough for everyone. I do allow them to bring toys from home but if it becomes a problem with sharing, it gets put in their cubby. Treats for staying dry all night can be done at home.
I have a couple dcks that wear pull ups for naps, and I try to get them to the bathroom asap after naps but sometimes it takes a few minutes(not till 5:30 tho!). As far as ds wanting to keep them on, they should be getting them off him somehow. It could hinder pottying.
As far as holding him if he's kicking/screaming, maybe they're trying to simply calm him down. Some kids do better with that than sitting in a chair. It's a tough call because we cannot see where the providers are coming from.
Your gut instinct can tell you much more than we can. Try to set up a conference and see if you can reach an understanding. If not, then look elsewhere.
Good luck!!!
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Thriftylady 04:37 AM 02-27-2015
Originally Posted by nanglgrl:
First of all you said he shouldn't be wearing pullups at nap but then said he got a reward for going through the whole night without wetting the bed. I'm sure you understand that children that aren't night trained may also have accidents at nap therefore they would need to wear a pull up during nap for sanitary reasons. You are lucky they are providing them. I don't know why they aren't taking them off after nap and I would discuss that with them.

I don't wipe children once they are fully trained and never after 3 years old. IMO they are starting to learn that those are private parts and that no one should touch them. You need to work with him on wiping. He will never learn how to wipe well if someone is doing it for him. Practice makes perfect.

As far as not using time outs and using redirection that's a great way to curb bad behavior. If the child is being held down I would ask about the circumstances in more detail. What instances would require this technique? Is he a danger to himself of others during these tantrums? Is he being gently held and comforted or completely restricted and disciplined?

It's incredibly common for daycare not to allow toys and snacks from home. It doesn't matter that the therapist thinks he needs these things, the therapist didn't say he needs to take them with him to places they are not allowed. Toys and snacks from home cause problems. The child often doesn't want to share the toy, the toy might not be age appropriate (choking hazard) to other children in the room, the toy could get broken, lost or stolen. Food from home can cause problems with another chils allergies, it can cause other children to tantrum because they don't have that food, it can cause them to decline the food the daycare offers. The big problem here is that the staff didnt confront you in the morning about this.

If they are open until a certain time and have asked you to pick up early and it's not a possibility for you then tell them that. Tell them if they insist you will have to find new arrangements. If your child can be picked up early do it, children shouldn't be in care any longer than they need to be. Ask most providers and they will say that the children left in care from open to close just because the parents are paying for it are usually the children with the most discipline problems. The daycare knows your child is the last one there and so does your child. Everyone else's mommies and daddies came, why didn't mine?

Unfortunately biting is quite common and maybe even more common in centers. It's great that they've made you aware of each bite. Have the bites happened all at once? Was there weeks between the bites? Was it the same child who was biting? I would definitely be concerned if my child was constantly being attacked by the same child. You have to understand that often biting happens in an instant. I've had a child lean in for a hug only to turn in a split second and bite. If it's the same child doing it every time and it's happened a lot in a short time I would tell them you need to know how they are going to prevent it. If it's different children and over a longer time span you have to realize that it's just something that's going to happen in a center where there are a lot of children per caregiver and a lot of space.
I also agree with this. Perhaps you need to have a talk with the director about your concerns.
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Second Home 06:48 AM 02-27-2015
I too agree with nanglgrl .
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Unregistered 07:10 AM 02-27-2015
Originally Posted by Second Home:
I too agree with nanglgrl .
Me too
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Controlled Chaos 08:16 AM 02-27-2015
Originally Posted by worriedandstuckmom:
So my son is 3 and a half and has been at this daycare for about 1 and a half yrs. It was going really well. The last 6 months or so I'm seeing and hearing things I don't like. For example I've been trying very hard to get him potty trained well he keeps getting sent home with a pull up on and they say it's cause he won't take it off after nap. I told them he doesnt even have pullups here and shouldnt be wearing them they said its there personal stash and there excuse is they have alot of kids to take care of so it's hard to remember everything. When he comes home in underwear there is always streaks on them cause they tell me they don't help them go to the bathroom so he isn't wiping good I asked them to help him he is young and just learning and they just simply say they don't help the kids.
My other major concern is that one of the providers told me they don't do timeouts they will seperate the kids distract them and in some circumstances they told me they have held my son and other children down in there lap kicking and screaming until they are calmed down is this legit? Shouldnt they have a different form of timeouts?
They also get paid for 50 hours a week to keep him but keep asking me to pick him up early on Fridays cause he is the last kid there and there teachers wanna go home. I get him at 530 they dont even close until 545.
I am a 25 yr old single mom. I left his father over 2 yrs ago and another guy who my son called daddy I left about 4 months ago. My son has been acting out and angry with me so he sees a therapists now they have suggested alot but as an example anytime he does something good no matter how small he gets a reward. Well he slept all night with no diaper on for the first time and didn't wet the bed so I let him pick any breakfast snack and any toy to bring to daycare. He picked a blueberry muffin and a Nascar toy. The teacher in the morning was fine with it when I went and picked him up one of the head ladies came at me with an attitude in front of my son and told me to never bring a toy in again she doesn't care why. And also that a blueberry muffin isn't healthy enough for a morning snack. I told her I'm going thru alot at home and I need to stick with the rewards thing all the time and I'm not gunna change it to make her happy. My son and his happiness and well being come first she didn't like it and she walked away from me.
There has been times he has come home with bite marks on him. They tell me about it but for the same child to be biting him 5 times now I feel something needs to be done asap! They just say they have talked to the parents.
This dayacre has helped me alot schedule wise and money wise if I get behind a week or two they work with me. But there r some very concerning things to me that I need some advice if I'm just being a crazy mom or if these are legit concerns. My son loves his friends there and has definitely learned alot from them. I'm stuck on what to think here...new daycare, keep trying to talk with them?! I'm just not sure!

I somehow missed this last night...too long too read lol sorry. This would not fly at my daycare. No toys or food from home. It sounds like you are saying you refuse to follow their rules so he wont cry... Any rewards system you have at home needs to stay at home.
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worriedandstuckmom 04:37 PM 02-27-2015
Thank you everyone I have read some wonderful advice. I know that no parent or daycare provider is perfect. I am looking for another provider.and I will Def keep in mind all the advice about how to work with the daycares! I've tried talking to them multiple times but they r always right they won't listen to what I'm saying and she pretty much argues with me until I just walk away
The biting is the same kid over about a 4 month span and 5 times. They r the ones that pushed me to not use pullups at nap time or anytime then they started getting lazy with it. They ask us to bring in breakfast snacks but then complain about what we bring. They say we can bring toys but don't give a list only say something when we bring it and they don't want it. And that isn't fair to my son. They can't seem to stay consistent and one teacher will say one thing then someone else will say another. I feel they have way to many kids per teacher. I walked in there was 2 babies under yr old 2 kids under 2 and 3 kids between 3 and 4...is that to many? I see where everyone is coming from and I thank you! I would have no problem following there rules if they could keep them straight and all the teachers were on the same page! Thanks everyone!!!
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worriedandstuckmom 04:40 PM 02-27-2015
Oh and the holding down no she told me the kid will be laying on there back and she will hold arms and legs down anytime he is kicking and screaming. I feel this is way extreme. They don't tell me when it happens it just happened to come up on conversation days after she did it. A few weeks later he had a bruise on his arm and she said she may of done it will he was throwing a tantrum. Just not ok woth me at all and even when I asked them not to she said that's how they control them wouldn't even listen to me and respect my wishes at all.
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Thriftylady 04:48 PM 02-27-2015
Originally Posted by worriedandstuckmom:
Thank you everyone I have read some wonderful advice. I know that no parent or daycare provider is perfect. I am looking for another provider.and I will Def keep in mind all the advice about how to work with the daycares! I've tried talking to them multiple times but they r always right they won't listen to what I'm saying and she pretty much argues with me until I just walk away
The biting is the same kid over about a 4 month span and 5 times. They r the ones that pushed me to not use pullups at nap time or anytime then they started getting lazy with it. They ask us to bring in breakfast snacks but then complain about what we bring. They say we can bring toys but don't give a list only say something when we bring it and they don't want it. And that isn't fair to my son. They can't seem to stay consistent and one teacher will say one thing then someone else will say another. I feel they have way to many kids per teacher. I walked in there was 2 babies under yr old 2 kids under 2 and 3 kids between 3 and 4...is that to many? I see where everyone is coming from and I thank you! I would have no problem following there rules if they could keep them straight and all the teachers were on the same page! Thanks everyone!!!
Perhaps a daycare home and the smaller setting would work better for you. Then you would likely be working with just one provider, or if you chose a home "center" two or three people. I will just give you a rundown of my rules in my daycare home.

NO food brought in from outside. I provide meals and snacks and if your child misses those, then YOU feed them before they come. they are not to bring in food, because Jane doesn't understand why she has carrots and John has cookies!

NO toys brought from home. Daycare items are shared and often when something is brought from home they don't want to share that item. On show and share days, they may bring an item but when it is not show and share time it stays in the cubby.

Children are in pullups until totally potty trained. That means NO accidents for at least three weeks. If they need a pull up at nap, they need it all day as far as I am concerned.

Your rewards would need to stay at home. I would work with you on your child's issues, within reason but not if it broke the house rules here I would also be willing with your permission to speak with your child's therapist and/or other medical professionals to work up a plan that would work at daycare to back you up, but fall within what I can do in group care.

You do have to understand that if your child has needs that group care cannot provide, then you need to get a nanny. Not saying that is the case, but if it is then you need to consider that.
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worriedandstuckmom 04:48 PM 02-27-2015
Also I get state aid I have to keep him at daycare a certain amount of hours or else I will loose it. I wish I could pick him up right away but that's just not possible cause my schedule varies so much I need the 50 hours a work they also offered if I pick him up at 5 they would write down 530 which I don't agree with
Plenty of people take advantage of state help and I refuse to be one of those people!
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Thriftylady 06:13 PM 02-27-2015
Well if what you are saying is true why are you still there? If my child was having major issues while in care my child wouldn't be there. The single mom card doesn't work you have to put your child first. Either the care is good or it isn't it can't be both.
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worriedandstuckmom 06:43 PM 02-27-2015
I'm not playing a card it's reality....who is gunna pay the bills put food on the table....I can't just pull him out on monday and wait until I find something else to go back to work. Sorry but that isn't how that works if I could do that then I wouldn't be here just asking for some advice. Obviously if there was physical abuse or something really major I would figure something out but that isn't the case I may not agree with everything but this isn't a case where my son is getting beaten or starved or something. That's y I'm here getting advise and am looking for a daycare but I'll tell u what I am a single mom so it's not easy and I can't just pull him out and decide not to work. I have no family close no friends that don't work. I have no other options right now and not trying to be rude but please don't say I need to put my child first like I'm not already!
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worriedandstuckmom 07:22 PM 02-27-2015
Originally Posted by Thriftylady:
I also agree with this. Perhaps you need to have a talk with the director about your concerns.
I have tried this as well...to bad that the director is the mother of the teacher that's the main problem so I never get anywhere with it but her sticking up for her daughter
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Thriftylady 07:48 PM 02-27-2015
No reality is that as a mother if you complain about the care and the teacher being lazy and neglecting your son, YOU are neglecting him if you leave him there. I get single parent, I was a single parent. I made $210 a week and paid $120 of that each week to daycare. I had cheaper daycare for three days. Until I picked up my kids and my DD who was 18 months at the time was in a playpen with a bottle and my son told me she had been in there all day. That was their last day there. I found a new provider that night and was at work the next morning. If it is so bad, pull him if not then you can't complain.
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Unregistered 07:49 PM 02-27-2015
If you feel that stuck, then you have your answer: find a new daycare.
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Bookworm 08:18 PM 02-27-2015
Does anyone know what would someone have to do, if you're on state assistance, to change centers. Will she have to do different paperwork for the new center? Is there a gap in assistance pay because of processing the new paperwork? If she changes centers, is she responsible for the full amount of care in the new center until the paperwork is processed?

If the answers to those questions are yes, if mom is telling the truth, it might be why she just can't pull DS. She says she has no backup because her family all works. If she can't afford full price then she can't afford to miss to much work trying to find care.
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Thriftylady 08:23 PM 02-27-2015
It may vary by state, but when I took state payments in Kansas the case worker would usually call me within 24 hours and tell me the child was enrolled and they were sending the paperwork. Never seemed to be an issue. UNLESS it was a parent who had changed several times in a short period I had one caseworker tell me this was the clients last change due to that and I told the caseworker in that case I wouldn't take the child.
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worriedandstuckmom 08:59 PM 02-27-2015
Wow didnt realize coming on here drama would start. I was asking for advice and I get told I'm neglecting my kid. I don't understand y you had to get all upset and u r a daycare provider?
It's a pain in the butt to switch everything with state it's a bunch of paperwork and i would prob have to pay a couple weeks. I didn't come on here to get judged I came on here for advice. I am looking for a daycare again as simple as I was looking for advice and seeing if im over reacting not someone to tell me I'm neglecting my son by leaving him there. This is nothing like a baby being left in a playpen all day propped with a bottle so don't even compare. Thank you to everyone else that gave me constructive criticism and advice and not for knocking me down!!!
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Unregistered 09:29 PM 02-27-2015
I would look for other child care provider. My child was the biter, he would only bite one older boy 2 1/2, come to find out that boy kept grabbing toys from my child or tackling
/ pushing my child. My child was 19 months. He never bit anyone else or ever again, the other boy moved to kindergarten.
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Josiegirl 03:21 AM 02-28-2015
I've never been in your shoes so I can't understand 100%. But you do have my compassion. Does your referral agency help with finding quality daycare? Can you ask them for advice and support?

Do you currently bring your child to a family home day care or a center? If there are 2 people running this place, it doesn't sound like the numbers are off. But I can't be sure. However, it does sound like they're frustrated and just doing what works in the heat of things. And sometimes that's not the best course of action because it's obviously not working. Plus the inconsistencies within the 2 women wouldn't set well with me at all. If it's confusing to you, just imagine how the kids must feel.

Is your child happy there? Does he act like he wants to go every day? Your child can tell you a lot with actions.

Can you make calls at night, to local daycares, to see what else is out there that might be a better fit? I would place a call into your local child care resource and referral agency and see what they can help you with. Plead your case. At your place of work, can you ask around for recommendations of people?

Good luck!

Btw, reading your first post, I tended to side on with the provider because in a group situation it can be difficult so certain rules need to be followed. But it sounds like with providers constantly changing those rules and not being willing to hear you out(usually providers try to work with families a bit)I'd say your best bet is to find someone else, however you can do that.
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Josiegirl 03:26 AM 02-28-2015
Oh and don't forget we all do things differently. Some providers consider their bathroom rules differently than I do, some treat 'from home' toys/snacks differently than I do, we all do things differently. I hope you can find someone you really like.
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Crystal 08:36 AM 02-28-2015
Originally Posted by Thriftylady:
Well if what you are saying is true why are you still there? If my child was having major issues while in care my child wouldn't be there. The single mom card doesn't work you have to put your child first. Either the care is good or it isn't it can't be both.
This is really out of line. She is seeking alternate care, and she came here for advice, not to be bashed.
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LadyBugHugs 08:40 AM 02-28-2015
Originally Posted by worriedandstuckmom:
Wow didnt realize coming on here drama would start. I was asking for advice and I get told I'm neglecting my kid. I don't understand y you had to get all upset and u r a daycare provider?
It's a pain in the butt to switch everything with state it's a bunch of paperwork and i would prob have to pay a couple weeks. I didn't come on here to get judged I came on here for advice. I am looking for a daycare again as simple as I was looking for advice and seeing if im over reacting not someone to tell me I'm neglecting my son by leaving him there. This is nothing like a baby being left in a playpen all day propped with a bottle so don't even compare. Thank you to everyone else that gave me constructive criticism and advice and not for knocking me down!!!
It is hard reading what others say without emotion when you are feeling overwhelmed or frustrated/angry/etc. I think those that responded gave you information and reasoning to back what they were saying, not criticizing you. I get the sense from your posts that you are ready to find a new provider but were looking for reasons to do so, sounds like "it isn't the right fit" would be just fine. You are the parent and have every right to raise your son in the way you choose, but that doesn't mean that the provider you are going to will do the same. I think you are past the talking and working something out point, in my experience when negativity starts to boil then it just festers until the next incident then all of it will be brought up again.
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Crystal 08:48 AM 02-28-2015
Originally Posted by worriedandstuckmom:
Wow didnt realize coming on here drama would start. I was asking for advice and I get told I'm neglecting my kid. I don't understand y you had to get all upset and u r a daycare provider?
It's a pain in the butt to switch everything with state it's a bunch of paperwork and i would prob have to pay a couple weeks. I didn't come on here to get judged I came on here for advice. I am looking for a daycare again as simple as I was looking for advice and seeing if im over reacting not someone to tell me I'm neglecting my son by leaving him there. This is nothing like a baby being left in a playpen all day propped with a bottle so don't even compare. Thank you to everyone else that gave me constructive criticism and advice and not for knocking me down!!!
Where are you located? Perhaps some one here is in your area and would work with you.
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Thriftylady 09:03 AM 02-28-2015
Originally Posted by CoachingForQualityImprovement:
This is really out of line. She is seeking alternate care, and she came here for advice, not to be bashed.
She says she has been having issues for six months, yet doesn't want to take any of the advice given, it may take a couple of weeks to do paperwork in her state, but if she has been having issues for six months why didn't she start the paperwork five months ago? I am not bashing, just stating fact as I see it. We have all offered advice and she has a hundred reasons why nothing will work. If you ask for advice you have to be willing to take it or don't ask.
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daycare 09:09 AM 02-28-2015
Originally Posted by Thriftylady:
She says she has been having issues for six months, yet doesn't want to take any of the advice given, it may take a couple of weeks to do paperwork in her state, but if she has been having issues for six months why didn't she start the paperwork five months ago? I am not bashing, just stating fact as I see it. We have all offered advice and she has a hundred reasons why nothing will work. If you ask for advice you have to be willing to take it or don't ask.
We create our own obstacles yet are the only resolution.
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Crystal 09:13 AM 02-28-2015
Originally Posted by Thriftylady:
She says she has been having issues for six months, yet doesn't want to take any of the advice given, it may take a couple of weeks to do paperwork in her state, but if she has been having issues for six months why didn't she start the paperwork five months ago? I am not bashing, just stating fact as I see it. We have all offered advice and she has a hundred reasons why nothing will work. If you ask for advice you have to be willing to take it or don't ask.
I do not see anywhere that she has said she isn't taking anyone's advice. In fact, she said:

"Thank you everyone I have read some wonderful advice. I know that no parent or daycare provider is perfect. I am looking for another provider.and I will Def keep in mind all the advice about how to work with the daycares!"

Yes, she has said why it won't work right NOW, but is seeking alternate care and also appreciates the CONSTRUCTIVE advice given here.
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worriedandstuckmom 03:44 PM 03-01-2015
Originally Posted by CoachingForQualityImprovement:
I do not see anywhere that she has said she isn't taking anyone's advice. In fact, she said:

"Thank you everyone I have read some wonderful advice. I know that no parent or daycare provider is perfect. I am looking for another provider.and I will Def keep in mind all the advice about how to work with the daycares!"

Yes, she has said why it won't work right NOW, but is seeking alternate care and also appreciates the CONSTRUCTIVE advice given here.
Thank you!! I am looking for other daycare and I am taking the advice given! I have waited the 6 months its been getting progressively worse that's why I came on here and started looking for new daycare. it's hard where i live to change and no the state doesnt help me look and it's not like my son is coming home with bruises or not being fed. I work 8 to 5 everyday. By the time I get home all daycares are pretty much closed. And also I came on here to see if I'm being the unfair crazy mom to the daycare provider. That's y it's nice to hear other people's rules as well cause they r my first daycare my son has ever been in. So I wasn't sure where they should or shoukdnt work with me...where I shouldn't or should work with them.
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CraftyMom 04:51 PM 03-01-2015
I think we've all been in a situation longer than we should have. Either because we thought we could work it out or there was never a clear cut sign that said "time to move on". It can be one thing here, another thing there...nothing big. But over time you look back and all these things add up and you start to question if it's time to move on.

Sounds like this is the case here. Aside from the physical restraints I don't see any major red flags, and depending on the situation the restraints might not be a red flag if used properly and the provider is trained on the technique. All the other things seem to me like minor things when taken individually, but when taken as a whole it is a bigger issue.

Worriedandstuckmom I am glad you asked for advice, it shows you care. It also shows you don't want to get upset over something that may be a regular occurrence in daycares, but you just weren't sure if it was normal or not.

In my opinion if you aren't comfortable then yes it is time to move on. I do think the things mentioned in the first post are normal, but the story seems more involved and clearly you are unsatisfied so yes, time to move on, it isn't a good fit anymore. It may have been working in the beginning, but things change and it is no longer working.

I understand many places are closed by the time you get home. I would use your lunch break to make calls and maybe even take a tour. Many home daycares will be accommodating after hours or on the weekend for a tour. In fact I ONLY do tours and interviews after hours.
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Josiegirl 03:25 AM 03-02-2015
Also, ask around for recommendations. Your friends. Co-workers. Family of co-workers. Then if a name comes up repeatedly by different people you'll know who's worth a look-see as far as new daycare.
Good luck!!
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worriedandstuckmom 01:39 PM 03-04-2015
Thanks everyone! I already have 2 places set up to go and visit. Thanks for all the advice and feedback I will Def take it to my next daycare and be able to understand more where they r coming from. Again thank you everyone got alot of good advice and help
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daycare 02:44 PM 03-04-2015
Originally Posted by worriedandstuckmom:
Thanks everyone! I already have 2 places set up to go and visit. Thanks for all the advice and feedback I will Def take it to my next daycare and be able to understand more where they r coming from. Again thank you everyone got alot of good advice and help
happy to hear that you have been able to go look at other places. you are doing a great job. keep your head up and just know that you are doing all you can with the best that you have.
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worriedandstuckmom 11:27 AM 03-05-2015
Thank you daycare!! Guess what found an amazing in home daycare and one of my family actually knows them personally. So excited gave my 2 weeks at other daycare and there response Was that they aren't his mother but that the think I'm making the wrong choice for him and that I shouldn't pull him oit. I told them I'm sorry but it's just not working I need more from the provider then u guys can provide and I'm gunna do what I think us best for my son. They aren't happy and made sure I knew that. Just another reason it's unprofessional there and they say the wrong thing alot of times but very excited and think this is gunna be perfect for my son
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Controlled Chaos 12:33 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by worriedandstuckmom:
Thank you daycare!! Guess what found an amazing in home daycare and one of my family actually knows them personally. So excited gave my 2 weeks at other daycare and there response Was that they aren't his mother but that the think I'm making the wrong choice for him and that I shouldn't pull him oit. I told them I'm sorry but it's just not working I need more from the provider then u guys can provide and I'm gunna do what I think us best for my son. They aren't happy and made sure I knew that. Just another reason it's unprofessional there and they say the wrong thing alot of times but very excited and think this is gunna be perfect for my son
Good luck at the new place
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Josiegirl 02:50 PM 03-05-2015
I'm glad it worked out that you found someone else!! Good luck!
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Thriftylady 04:34 PM 03-05-2015
You did the right thing for sure. I am sorry they tried to make you feel bad about it, because at the end of the day YOU get to decide what is best for your child. Just remember to keep a lot of communication with your new provider, often that solves many issues, and it will keep your provider very happy! Something as simple as a text if you are going to arrive late etc goes a very long way! Hopefully you discussed with your new provider all the things that were major points in you pulling him so you could make a plan together. I know it must have been hard to give in and pull the plug, but I am proud of you for it.
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worriedandstuckmom 07:57 PM 03-11-2015
Originally Posted by Thriftylady:
You did the right thing for sure. I am sorry they tried to make you feel bad about it, because at the end of the day YOU get to decide what is best for your child. Just remember to keep a lot of communication with your new provider, often that solves many issues, and it will keep your provider very happy! Something as simple as a text if you are going to arrive late etc goes a very long way! Hopefully you discussed with your new provider all the things that were major points in you pulling him so you could make a plan together. I know it must have been hard to give in and pull the plug, but I am proud of you for it.
Thank you very much! It was a much shorter process then I thought I found a good fit right away. And yes we did talk about all my concerns and we both agreed and set guidelines that fit my son not the whole group cause they go as individuals (to a certain point of course) my son is excited I am excited!! Thanks everyone for the support and encouragement.
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daycare 08:34 PM 03-11-2015
Originally Posted by worriedandstuckmom:
Thank you very much! It was a much shorter process then I thought I found a good fit right away. And yes we did talk about all my concerns and we both agreed and set guidelines that fit my son not the whole group cause they go as individuals (to a certain point of course) my son is excited I am excited!! Thanks everyone for the support and encouragement.
this is so awesome to hear. So happy for you.. I hope this all works out.

Did you got to an in-home?
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Josiegirl 03:14 AM 03-12-2015
Yay!!!
Your life sounds like it will be so much better with daycare you're happy with!
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