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Kcole1075 06:07 PM 12-19-2013
I have had a lot of "I'm not brining dck this day because I am off" comments this week. I am going to revise my contract at the end of the school year . I am wondering what you have it set up as for vacations or days off and pay...
This has been kinda a problem for me this week because I have had parents tell me the day off that dck will not be coming at all this week which means no pay for me, now I have a dcm asking since she took off Thursday &friday (although is mad at me for being closed Christmas Eve because she is working )next week and won't be bringing them if she still has to pay me.
This has been kinda a problem for me this week because I have had parents tell me the day off that dck will not be coming at all this week which means no pay for me, now I have a dcm asking since she took off Thursday &friday (although is mad at me for being closed Christmas Eve because she is working )next week and won't be bringing them if she still has to pay me.
Cradle2crayons 06:10 PM 12-19-2013
Originally Posted by Kcole1075:
I have had a lot of "I'm not brining dck this day because I am off" comments this week. I am going to revise my contract at the end of the school year . I am wondering what you have it set up as for vacations or days off and pay...
This has been kinda a problem for me this week because I have had parents tell me the day off that dck will not be coming at all this week which means no pay for me, now I have a dcm asking since she took off Thursday &friday (although is mad at me for being closed Christmas Eve because she is working )next week and won't be bringing them if she still has to pay me.
All of my parents pay exactly the same amount every week, regardless.I have had a lot of "I'm not brining dck this day because I am off" comments this week. I am going to revise my contract at the end of the school year . I am wondering what you have it set up as for vacations or days off and pay...
This has been kinda a problem for me this week because I have had parents tell me the day off that dck will not be coming at all this week which means no pay for me, now I have a dcm asking since she took off Thursday &friday (although is mad at me for being closed Christmas Eve because she is working )next week and won't be bringing them if she still has to pay me.
In my contract I explain payment is based on enrollment not attendance.
When they take off, I can't fill their spot with a drop in. So regardless of sickness or their off day, I get paid.
I currently only take three days off each year. Thanksgiving day, Christmas Day, and one day the week before Christmas (I give them 2 weeks notice). Next year I will take 5 total paid days off. Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve, Easter Sunday, Christmas Day. And one day the week before Christmas.
Kcole1075 06:18 PM 12-19-2013
That what is currently in my contract. I just want to make sure I am not the only one doing this. I started to second guess if it was fair or not.
I am probably going to have to hunt down 1st daycare mom for a payment and late fees ( I feel it was rude she told me at 8 and dcb was supposed to show up at 7) . And second mom is going to throw a fit she hates my rules and is always trying to find a reason to take money off.
I am probably going to have to hunt down 1st daycare mom for a payment and late fees ( I feel it was rude she told me at 8 and dcb was supposed to show up at 7) . And second mom is going to throw a fit she hates my rules and is always trying to find a reason to take money off.
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
All of my parents pay exactly the same amount every week, regardless.
In my contract I explain payment is based on enrollment not attendance.
When they take off, I can't fill their spot with a drop in. So regardless of sickness or their off day, I get paid.
All of my parents pay exactly the same amount every week, regardless.
In my contract I explain payment is based on enrollment not attendance.
When they take off, I can't fill their spot with a drop in. So regardless of sickness or their off day, I get paid.
preschoolteacher 06:20 PM 12-19-2013
I give each family two weeks' vacation from daycare each year. One week is equal to the number of days their child attends daycare. So a child who comes two days a week gets four free days per year (for example). All of my families are PT so I'm not giving out more than 6 days free per year per family.
There are a couple rules. They have to give me 2 weeks' notice before the vacation time is used. They can't use it retroactively for illness. They can't cash it out for money or roll it over into the next year if unused.
They get their days, but that's it. When they are used up, they pay.
There are a couple rules. They have to give me 2 weeks' notice before the vacation time is used. They can't use it retroactively for illness. They can't cash it out for money or roll it over into the next year if unused.
They get their days, but that's it. When they are used up, they pay.
Cradle2crayons 06:21 PM 12-19-2013
Originally Posted by Kcole1075:
That what is currently in my contract. I just want to make sure I am not the only one doing this. I started to second guess if it was fair or not.
I am probably going to have to hunt down 1st daycare mom for a payment and late fees ( I feel it was rude she told me at 8 and dcb was supposed to show up at 7) . And second mom is going to throw a fit she hates my rules and is always trying to find a reason to take money off.
I assume your parents pay up front ?That what is currently in my contract. I just want to make sure I am not the only one doing this. I started to second guess if it was fair or not.
I am probably going to have to hunt down 1st daycare mom for a payment and late fees ( I feel it was rude she told me at 8 and dcb was supposed to show up at 7) . And second mom is going to throw a fit she hates my rules and is always trying to find a reason to take money off.
MotherNature 06:30 PM 12-19-2013
I allow a week's vacation w/o pay, but am changing stuff for the new year & will allow two week's unpaid vacation, but with stipulations similar to the PP. I personlly take 2 weeks of paid vacation.
Kcole1075 06:34 PM 12-19-2013
Yes all my parents pay upfront. I have a 2 that pay monthly and 3 pay weekly.
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
I assume your parents pay up front ?
I assume your parents pay up front ?
nannyde 06:37 PM 12-19-2013
Same rate 52 weeks per year
littlemissmuffet 06:40 PM 12-19-2013
Originally Posted by nannyde:
Same rate 52 weeks per year
Same here. All pre-paid. Same rate 52 weeks per year
I take off all stat holidays, 2 weeks holidays, 5 sick/personal days every year - all paid!
Daycare families don't get free or discounted vacation/sick time.
Lucy 06:52 PM 12-19-2013
Yes, I charge no matter what. Same check EVERY Friday.
That being said, a struggling family whose kids won't be here tomorrow and all next week, paid me today for two weeks. I felt a little bit bad, but that's the rules. On the other hand, I gave the parents AND both kids a Christmas gift, and they gave me nothing. So I guess we're about even!
That being said, a struggling family whose kids won't be here tomorrow and all next week, paid me today for two weeks. I felt a little bit bad, but that's the rules. On the other hand, I gave the parents AND both kids a Christmas gift, and they gave me nothing. So I guess we're about even!
Unregistered 07:38 PM 12-19-2013
For me, if the child/ren don't attend they don't pay. I have 3 full time families and no part time. This past thanksgiving i had no children here so I made $0.
Annalee 07:56 PM 12-19-2013
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
All of my parents pay exactly the same amount every week, regardless.
In my contract I explain payment is based on enrollment not attendance.
When they take off, I can't fill their spot with a drop in. So regardless of sickness or their off day, I get paid.
All of my parents pay exactly the same amount every week, regardless.
In my contract I explain payment is based on enrollment not attendance.
When they take off, I can't fill their spot with a drop in. So regardless of sickness or their off day, I get paid.
Same pay for all parents 52 weeks a yr.....regardless!
TheGoodLife 08:41 PM 12-19-2013
Originally Posted by preschoolteacher:
I give each family two weeks' vacation from daycare each year. One week is equal to the number of days their child attends daycare. So a child who comes two days a week gets four free days per year (for example). All of my families are PT so I'm not giving out more than 6 days free per year per family.
There are a couple rules. They have to give me 2 weeks' notice before the vacation time is used. They can't use it retroactively for illness. They can't cash it out for money or roll it over into the next year if unused.
They get their days, but that's it. When they are used up, they pay.
Saved me some typing- THIS, but I only do 1 week's worth. I give each family two weeks' vacation from daycare each year. One week is equal to the number of days their child attends daycare. So a child who comes two days a week gets four free days per year (for example). All of my families are PT so I'm not giving out more than 6 days free per year per family.
There are a couple rules. They have to give me 2 weeks' notice before the vacation time is used. They can't use it retroactively for illness. They can't cash it out for money or roll it over into the next year if unused.
They get their days, but that's it. When they are used up, they pay.
GoodKarma 05:40 AM 12-20-2013
Yes. I take one in the summer and the week between Christmas and New Year's Day that I don't charge for. The parents pay for the other 50 weeks a year.
Maria2013 05:50 AM 12-20-2013
I don't charge for days off as long as I know in advance (no refunds for cancelled days)
Msdunny 06:03 AM 12-20-2013
My policies allow for 2 weeks at half-rate for dcf vacations, and they have to take the entire week at one time. I charge for days they are out here or there. I wouldn't be able to do a personal budget otherwise. I have one family that would just make other arrangements when money was tight, and I would never be able to have a dependable income. So, same rate for 50 weeks per year, and half rate for 2 weeks (unless they don't take a vacation at all, which one of my families never does.)
Blackcat31 06:10 AM 12-20-2013
Originally Posted by Kcole1075:
That what is currently in my contract. I just want to make sure I am not the only one doing this. I started to second guess if it was fair or not.
I am probably going to have to hunt down 1st daycare mom for a payment and late fees ( I feel it was rude she told me at 8 and dcb was supposed to show up at 7) . And second mom is going to throw a fit she hates my rules and is always trying to find a reason to take money off.
Didn't she read your contract and policies BEFORE enrolling her child?That what is currently in my contract. I just want to make sure I am not the only one doing this. I started to second guess if it was fair or not.
I am probably going to have to hunt down 1st daycare mom for a payment and late fees ( I feel it was rude she told me at 8 and dcb was supposed to show up at 7) . And second mom is going to throw a fit she hates my rules and is always trying to find a reason to take money off.
I don't give too hoots about whether my daycare parents like or dont' like my policies.
If they are something the parent can live with and AGREES to, then it is what it is and there is NO NEGOTIATING.
If they don't like them and can't make them work for their family, then don't enroll your child and sign the contract. I am NOT the right fit for them.
I will never understand why parents agree to something, sign on the dotted line and then complain about the rules/policies they agreed to
OP, if I were you, every time this DCM starts complaining about your policies, ask her if she is submitting her notice of withdrawl or not? Most times, they change their tune when they realize you don't need the headache of trying to continue enforcing policies she agreed to if she isn't going to be an adult and follow through
Msdunny 06:13 AM 12-20-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
OP, if I were you, every time this DCM starts complaining about your policies, ask her if she is submitting her notice of withdrawl or not? Most times, they change their tune when they realize you don't need the headache of trying to continue enforcing policies she agreed to if she isn't going to be an adult and follow through
OP, if I were you, every time this DCM starts complaining about your policies, ask her if she is submitting her notice of withdrawl or not? Most times, they change their tune when they realize you don't need the headache of trying to continue enforcing policies she agreed to if she isn't going to be an adult and follow through
MarinaVanessa 06:38 AM 12-20-2013
I do things a little differently but I still "get paid" for days that I take off. What I did was figure out what I wanted to charge FT first then PT was more expensive and drop in even mre expensive than that. Then I calculated how many days off I would give myself for vacation (5) and how many for sick days (5). Then I figured out how much $ those 2 weeks cost and then added it to my weekly rate split up into 50 weeks. So then I just tell parents that if I close because I'm sick or because I go on vacation they don't pay for those days (but really I already factored payment for those days in) but they still pay when they are absent. I don't give them free days for illness or vacation, I just say "if Im closed, you don't pay. If Im opened and you don't come, you pay". My contract clearly says that their spot is based on enrollment not attendance.
If I do it this way I get less "do I still have to pay?" And the parents feel like they're getting a deal because they "don't pay" for my vacations and sick days
Edit: I forgot to mention holidays. I have 8 holidays that I'm closed that are still paid. They still pay for these as well.
If I do it this way I get less "do I still have to pay?" And the parents feel like they're getting a deal because they "don't pay" for my vacations and sick days
Edit: I forgot to mention holidays. I have 8 holidays that I'm closed that are still paid. They still pay for these as well.
laceylmm 07:00 AM 12-20-2013
As of now I say I don't charge for my vacations but I do charge for their vacations. I figure I'd lose more money if I let 3-4 different families not pay whenever they take a vacation.
Lorri 07:15 AM 12-20-2013
Yes they do. They get so many days off per contract day, if they contract for 5 days they get 5 days off with out pay to use when they want, I just ask for at least 24 hour notice. But when they have used it they are all gone and they pay if they do not come
Heidi 07:23 AM 12-20-2013
I charge for holidays: New Years Day, Good Friday, Memorial Day, Independence Day (and some years the day before or after to complete the weekend), Labor Day, Thanksgiving and the Friday after, Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
They pay when they are gone, no matter the reason.
I added 5 paid personal/sick/vacation days for 2014. Any additional time I take off is unpaid.
They pay when they are gone, no matter the reason.
I added 5 paid personal/sick/vacation days for 2014. Any additional time I take off is unpaid.
originalkat 08:01 AM 12-20-2013
Parents pay tuition monthly. Tuition is due based on enrollment, not attendance.
I take 12 paid holidays, 2 weeks vacation paid, and up to 5 paid personal days. I do not give free days to parents for any reason.
I take 12 paid holidays, 2 weeks vacation paid, and up to 5 paid personal days. I do not give free days to parents for any reason.
Heidi 08:10 AM 12-20-2013
When I added those 5 paid days this year, I also put in the new rate sheet the calculations for how much they cost.
At $140 per week, 5 days costs them an extra $2.69 per week.
At $140 per week, 5 days costs them an extra $2.69 per week.
EntropyControlSpecialist 08:31 AM 12-20-2013
My clients can submit their plan to go on a week vacation at least two weeks in advance after being enrolled for six months. I will give one free vacation week per year if they do this. I have only had TWO people do this. You would think they would want to do this during my 8 day long vacation so that they would only be paying for 5 days, but none ever have (not with my last group, not with this group).
I have 16 paid vacation days. I give them 5 days that they do not have to pay for each year if they submit their vacation plan.
I have 16 paid vacation days. I give them 5 days that they do not have to pay for each year if they submit their vacation plan.
mrsnj 09:00 AM 12-20-2013
They pay if they come or not. Vacations must be given with one month notice and it is one per family at half rate for school year (Sept to Sept) If they are teachers and take off for the summer, they do not get a vacation rate. Holidays are paid since it is a 'pay per spot' space.
Kcole1075 09:18 AM 12-20-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Didn't she read your contract and policies BEFORE enrolling her child?
I don't give too hoots about whether my daycare parents like or dont' like my policies.
If they are something the parent can live with and AGREES to, then it is what it is and there is NO NEGOTIATING.
If they don't like them and can't make them work for their family, then don't enroll your child and sign the contract. I am NOT the right fit for them.
I will never understand why parents agree to something, sign on the dotted line and then complain about the rules/policies they agreed to
OP, if I were you, every time this DCM starts complaining about your policies, ask her if she is submitting her notice of withdrawl or not? Most times, they change their tune when they realize you don't need the headache of trying to continue enforcing policies she agreed to if she isn't going to be an adult and follow through
Didn't she read your contract and policies BEFORE enrolling her child?
I don't give too hoots about whether my daycare parents like or dont' like my policies.
If they are something the parent can live with and AGREES to, then it is what it is and there is NO NEGOTIATING.
If they don't like them and can't make them work for their family, then don't enroll your child and sign the contract. I am NOT the right fit for them.
I will never understand why parents agree to something, sign on the dotted line and then complain about the rules/policies they agreed to
OP, if I were you, every time this DCM starts complaining about your policies, ask her if she is submitting her notice of withdrawl or not? Most times, they change their tune when they realize you don't need the headache of trying to continue enforcing policies she agreed to if she isn't going to be an adult and follow through
No she did not read the contract and admits that to me all the time. At one point she even asked for another copy and then last night said she lost it. I want to term (I have been thinking about it for over a month) her just for the fact that I am constantly having to remind her of the policies and contract she signed.
I am going to tell her at pick up that as the contract says she will be paying for those days. I am going to edit that part just to have it say they are paying for the spot not for attendance or that if I am closed they don't have to pay but if I am open they will still be expected to pay. I am not sure how I will put it yet.
Heidi 11:53 AM 12-20-2013
Originally Posted by Kcole1075:
No she did not read the contract and admits that to me all the time. At one point she even asked for another copy and then last night said she lost it. I want to term (I have been thinking about it for over a month) her just for the fact that I am constantly having to remind her of the policies and contract she signed.
I am going to tell her at pick up that as the contract says she will be paying for those days. I am going to edit that part just to have it say they are paying for the spot not for attendance or that if I am closed they don't have to pay but if I am open they will still be expected to pay. I am not sure how I will put it yet.
I can pm you the contract I just did. Feel free to take whatever you want from it. My policy manual (12 pages), is separate.No she did not read the contract and admits that to me all the time. At one point she even asked for another copy and then last night said she lost it. I want to term (I have been thinking about it for over a month) her just for the fact that I am constantly having to remind her of the policies and contract she signed.
I am going to tell her at pick up that as the contract says she will be paying for those days. I am going to edit that part just to have it say they are paying for the spot not for attendance or that if I am closed they don't have to pay but if I am open they will still be expected to pay. I am not sure how I will put it yet.
Kcole1075 12:56 PM 12-20-2013
Would you mind sending me both your contract and your policy manual?
Originally Posted by Heidi:
I can pm you the contract I just did. Feel free to take whatever you want from it. My policy manual (12 pages), is separate.
I can pm you the contract I just did. Feel free to take whatever you want from it. My policy manual (12 pages), is separate.
Heidi 12:59 PM 12-20-2013
Originally Posted by Kcole1075:
Would you mind sending me both your contract and your policy manual?
Sure thing! They will be plain text, because I'm using Google docs now and I'll just cut-and-paste them. I'll send them separately.Would you mind sending me both your contract and your policy manual?
I had to email the handbook to you...its too long to put in a PM. Let me know if you don't get it.
kitykids3 01:03 PM 12-20-2013
Originally Posted by preschoolteacher:
I give each family two weeks' vacation from daycare each year. One week is equal to the number of days their child attends daycare. So a child who comes two days a week gets four free days per year (for example). All of my families are PT so I'm not giving out more than 6 days free per year per family.
There are a couple rules. They have to give me 2 weeks' notice before the vacation time is used. They can't use it retroactively for illness. They can't cash it out for money or roll it over into the next year if unused.
They get their days, but that's it. When they are used up, they pay.
Ditto, but they only get one week's worth. And they have to give me one week notice.I give each family two weeks' vacation from daycare each year. One week is equal to the number of days their child attends daycare. So a child who comes two days a week gets four free days per year (for example). All of my families are PT so I'm not giving out more than 6 days free per year per family.
There are a couple rules. They have to give me 2 weeks' notice before the vacation time is used. They can't use it retroactively for illness. They can't cash it out for money or roll it over into the next year if unused.
They get their days, but that's it. When they are used up, they pay.
e.j. 02:13 PM 12-20-2013
I don't charge for my own vacation weeks so my dc parents usually schedule their own around mine. If they opt to take their vacation at other times, though, they pay.