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mrsnj 03:58 PM 04-25-2013
Fast background....
I am interviewing families from another family daycare who is shutting down. The owner asked if I could take them all to keep them all together but I really cannot. I agreed to interview with them, figuring that some might not show or it might not be a fit etc. Basically first come first serve.

The owner came for her interview for her two children the next day. And the following day I interviewed another family. Etc. I know I have till the beginning of May before any come as she is giving them like a two week notice. So I am interviewing, making notes on who are good choices and waiting.

It has been a week since the owner contacted me and I am JUST NOW getting a call from the last mom at the family daycare. Turns out I interviewed this mom last year. It was not the best interview. After chatting with her I find that she is asking for free trial weeks for a baby to see if he "likes the provider". Like a baby, bouncing around from provider to provider is going to adjust in 2-5 days time like magic. She cancels the first appointment as she got a free trial at another center. She arrives late to my interview the following week because she has to pick the baby up from yet another provider who he is on a trial run with. I know this interview is a waste of my time. I do not give free trial runs. I see her as a daycare bouncer looking for free daycare. You either come and pay or your dont. But she comes for the interview...the interview is ok but I can tell she doesn't like my rules. I am strict and everything is laid out in a parent handbook. You pay here, this is the late fee, I close this day, my hours are this, etc. She closes the door and I said she won't be coming and that was a waste of my time. I am right. Forward to today......

It is the same mom. She tells me she took so long to call because she already went to a daycare center to check them out but her child is too young and they won't take him and she interviewed another person in the next town over but it is a "ghetto area" and she isn't happy (totally did not like that comment. Why tell me that??). So now she is calling ME. She remembers me from last year when we interviewed and I already met her son and blah blah blah.

Ok.....so.....if you interviewed and you didn't come why call me now? I get why last year. It was all about money and this provider who is closing was a pay as you go provider. No rules. No activities. Basically a babysitter for close to nothing. But if you remembered me when the owner told you about me and that she was looking to come here, why did you interview all those other places and THEN call me? Why not say "Oh I remember her, I will call her" knowing it was a first come first serve. No. You called around first and then called me last. Obviously the other places were issues and now you are calling me cause you wasted a week and need a place in 7 days.

My husband says to take her. It is money he says. But I am kinda rubbed wrong. If she were happy she would have come last year. If she were in need and already knew me, why not call me first thing. You call around first and then call me? To ME that says she has issues with coming here. My husband is concerned that the owner won't come if I don't take this woman cause she wants to keep the kids together. But obviously that isn't going to happen. Some have already gone to centers and I can't take them all! My feeling is if that is the case then it wasn't meant to be.

Is it me? Would you take her?
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sharlan 04:14 PM 04-25-2013
R U N

Is your husband going to stay home and deal with this mother? Is he going to deal with a child who has had way too many caretakers and cries all day?
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Luna 04:15 PM 04-25-2013
I would not take her. She has shown you pretty clearly what she will be like to deal with, and I wouldn't want to work with her.
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kendallina 04:43 PM 04-25-2013
I wouldn't take her either.
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MamaBearCanada 04:52 PM 04-25-2013
No way would I take her - I would not have even offered another interview
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daycare 04:55 PM 04-25-2013
in all my 10 years of doing daycare one thing that I have learned...

never take a family because they are income.................... you will regret this later if you do and who knows how much more issues will arise at the time when it does.

I have learned to only take clients that I mesh well with, that I know will be a good fit for my program, trust will follow my rules and make every effort to put their best foot forward.

as others have said RUN
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mema 04:56 PM 04-25-2013
Originally Posted by sharlan:
R U N

Is your husband going to stay home and deal with this mother? Is he going to deal with a child who has had way too many caretakers and cries all day?

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preschoolteacher 06:09 PM 04-25-2013
No, you deserve more respect than she's given you, and I'm sure more problems are on their way with her...
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Lyss 08:04 PM 04-25-2013
Originally Posted by sharlan:
R U N

Is your husband going to stay home and deal with this mother? Is he going to deal with a child who has had way too many caretakers and cries all day?


If she's already rubbing you the wrong way, think how much more annoyed you will be when the issues start popping up (and you know they will). You'll be frustrated and annoyed with her and yourself for not listening to your gut.

NEXT!
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cheerfuldom 08:08 PM 04-25-2013
do not take this family

and tell your hubby to shut his piehole (in a nice way)
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MissAnn 03:55 AM 04-26-2013
"We're full, sorry"
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Meyou 04:18 AM 04-26-2013
I agree with RUN! This family sounds like nothing but a problem.
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snbauser 04:41 AM 04-26-2013
I would not take her. Like someone else said - if you are already annoyed, things that wouldn't have bothered you otherwise will really irritate you.
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DaisyMamma 05:09 AM 04-26-2013
I would most definitely NOT take her. Nor would I take the children of the owner whose facility is closing, but that might just be me...
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mrsnj 05:18 AM 04-26-2013
See! That is my thinking!! I just smell bad news here. And what got me is that she TELLS me she has checked out other places and wasted time. She could have opted to say nothing and just called for an interview. She didn't. She is filling me in on all the other places she called and their issues and now she is down to the wire and wants to bring the child here "to keep them together". It sounds like I am a last resort. I know why she doesn't want to come even if she doesn't say it. But to tell me you are finally calling me almost a week and half later after looking elsewhere and I am a last option (not that she actually said those words) kinda rubs against the grain!

I DID tell the owner I was already interviewing and in transition for the summer. I DID tell the owner to tell her families to call ASAP as I have limited spots. Everyone called but this one.

Well here is the news.......after I posted this the DC owner took two spots. Her kids start the first week in May. I have to call this morning and confirm I got the message she left on my machine. And one of my summer SA kids is returning and took the other FT spot. I am officially full. Husband thinks I should interview and then tell her I am now in waiting list mode.....OR take her cause...well...it is money. (I like the pie hole comment! ) I want to call and let her know. Then she can decide to even bother because it will really be a waste of time at this point. And honestly I don't want her. I agree. I see bad news with this one. It wasn't a fit last year. I doubt it will be one this year.
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countrymom 05:28 AM 04-26-2013
why is she closing because she seems to have a large clientel
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EntropyControlSpecialist 05:43 AM 04-26-2013
Originally Posted by DaisyMamma:
I would most definitely NOT take her. Nor would I take the children of the owner whose facility is closing, but that might just be me...
This is how I feel as well.

Both seem like disasters waiting to happen for various reasons.
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mrsnj 05:43 AM 04-26-2013
She is a pay as you go and isn't making money. She tried to stay open by hiring someone to babysit in her place while she got another job but the girl isn't showing on time and she isn't able to go into work so she is closing. She only had three children besides her own two. But I am not only interviewing with her families. I already have my own interviews.


I just spoke with her. She is closing today! She has had enough of the worker. The kids are starting on Monday now. She is under the impression all the families have places to go and doesn't' seem to know about yesterdays call.
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EntropyControlSpecialist 05:51 AM 04-26-2013
Originally Posted by mrsnj:
She is a pay as you go and isn't making money. She tried to stay open by hiring someone to babysit in her place while she got another job but the girl isn't showing on time and she isn't able to go into work so she is closing. She only had three children besides her own two. But I am not only interviewing with her families. I already have my own interviews.


I just spoke with her. She is closing today! She has had enough of the worker. The kids are starting on Monday now. She is under the impression all the families have places to go and doesn't' seem to know about yesterdays call.
I hope it works out well and she is a respectful, rule following client!
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KnoxMom 05:54 AM 04-26-2013
I wouldn't take her; if I desperately needed the income I would definitely require a 2 week deposit upfront.
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Blackcat31 05:58 AM 04-26-2013
Originally Posted by mrsnj:
Is it me? Would you take her?


1) I can’t do that.

2) I have a conflict.

3) I’ll be out of town (or out of the country, or checked out, or out of range, etc.).

4) I never even considered that.

5) I’m not planning on it.

6) I have no intention of doing that.

7) It’s not part of my agenda for today (or this week, or this month, or this lifetime, etc.).

8 ) I’m unavailable.

9) I’m not interested.

10) It’s not my thing.

11) It’s not a priority for me.

12) Nope, Nada.

13) I’m just not good at that.

14) I don’t have room in my life for that right now.

15) It’s my policy to be more discriminating about what I commit to now that I’m older (or “wiser”, “experienced”, etc.).

16) Life is too short to commit to things and people we don’t love.

17) I have commitment issues.

18) I’m afraid I’m not the right person for it.

19) I’m slammed right now but let me recommend ____________ who would be excellent at that.

20) I don’t want to hold you up so feel free to ask someone else.

21) I bet you’ll find someone who can do a better job than I can.`

22) I’ll have to check with the powers that be.

23) My mother taught me not to say yes to everything.

24) Sounds tempting but I’ll have to pass.

25) I wish I could but I simply can’t.

26) Absolutely not.

27) For the last time, no.

28) Talk to my lawyer.

29) I’d rather beat myself with sticks than do that

30) I no longer do things that depress me

31) I’ll do it if you do my grocery shopping for a year

32) Fax me about it when I’m on vacation

Um, NO!!!!!!!
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TheGoodLife 06:22 AM 04-26-2013
Originally Posted by mrsnj:
She is a pay as you go and isn't making money. She tried to stay open by hiring someone to babysit in her place while she got another job but the girl isn't showing on time and she isn't able to go into work so she is closing. She only had three children besides her own two. But I am not only interviewing with her families. I already have my own interviews.


I just spoke with her. She is closing today! She has had enough of the worker. The kids are starting on Monday now. She is under the impression all the families have places to go and doesn't' seem to know about yesterdays call.
Not your problem! Of she's disrespecting you before an interview, I wouldn't even think about it. She waited too long- sorry Charlie!!! That's her problem. I personally would love informing her I was full, the nerve!
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DaisyMamma 06:28 AM 04-26-2013
Personally I would not only tell her I'm full, but it wouldnt have been a good fit anyway..
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TheGoodLife 06:52 AM 04-26-2013
Originally Posted by mrsnj:
She is a pay as you go and isn't making money. She tried to stay open by hiring someone to babysit in her place while she got another job but the girl isn't showing on time and she isn't able to go into work so she is closing. She only had three children besides her own two. But I am not only interviewing with her families. I already have my own interviews.


I just spoke with her. She is closing today! She has had enough of the worker. The kids are starting on Monday now. She is under the impression all the families have places to go and doesn't' seem to know about yesterdays call.
Not your problem! Of she's disrespecting you before an interview, I wouldn't even think about it. She waited too long- sorry Charlie!!! That's her problem. I personally would love informing her I was full, the nerve!
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mrsnj 07:19 AM 04-26-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:


1) I can’t do that.

2) I have a conflict.

3) I’ll be out of town (or out of the country, or checked out, or out of range, etc.).

4) I never even considered that.

5) I’m not planning on it.

6) I have no intention of doing that.

7) It’s not part of my agenda for today (or this week, or this month, or this lifetime, etc.).

8 ) I’m unavailable.

9) I’m not interested.

10) It’s not my thing.

11) It’s not a priority for me.

12) Nope, Nada.

13) I’m just not good at that.

14) I don’t have room in my life for that right now.

15) It’s my policy to be more discriminating about what I commit to now that I’m older (or “wiser”, “experienced”, etc.).

16) Life is too short to commit to things and people we don’t love.

17) I have commitment issues.

18) I’m afraid I’m not the right person for it.

19) I’m slammed right now but let me recommend ____________ who would be excellent at that.

20) I don’t want to hold you up so feel free to ask someone else.

21) I bet you’ll find someone who can do a better job than I can.`

22) I’ll have to check with the powers that be.

23) My mother taught me not to say yes to everything.

24) Sounds tempting but I’ll have to pass.

25) I wish I could but I simply can’t.

26) Absolutely not.

27) For the last time, no.

28) Talk to my lawyer.

29) I’d rather beat myself with sticks than do that

30) I no longer do things that depress me

31) I’ll do it if you do my grocery shopping for a year

32) Fax me about it when I’m on vacation

Um, NO!!!!!!!

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mrsnj 07:20 AM 04-26-2013
I am going to call around 3ish and give her a heads up that I am full.

I was looking back at last years emails with this mom....it took her three months to commit to a meet and greet. She was selling her house. She was moving. She had not settled on the house. She was working. Etc etc etc. Then her sitter quit on her on a THur and she wanted to come on a Friday without an interview. I said no. She had to interview. Then she finally made the appointment and rescheduled and then showed late. Then in the end wanted a free trial run and when I said sorry she went someplace else. Clearly she is not a committed parent and I had issues that I completely forgot about.

Just spoke with the owner and she isn't sure if her kids will be able to come on Monday now cause this other mom is under the impression I am taking her son and starting Monday too.....SURPRISE!

Man. It is like a soap opera.

This DC mom/owner needs to make a commitment herself before SHE loses her spot for one child that isn't hers!
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williams2008 07:24 AM 04-26-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
in all my 10 years of doing daycare one thing that I have learned...

never take a family because they are income.................... you will regret this later if you do and who knows how much more issues will arise at the time when it does.

I have learned to only take clients that I mesh well with, that I know will be a good fit for my program, trust will follow my rules and make every effort to put their best foot forward.

as others have said RUN

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Willow 07:28 AM 04-26-2013
Originally Posted by mrsnj:
I am going to call around 3ish and give her a heads up that I am full.

So glad to hear this!

I would never want to be anybody's last choice for care, and I'd have a really hard time not saying that was the reason if I was asked
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mrsnj 07:50 AM 04-26-2013
Just spoke with the interviewing DC mom........

OMG seriously! This woman is under the impression her son was coming! That she thought it was just a 'formality' and her son can remeet me. (This woman is too much!)

So she asked I put her on the waiting list (um hum) but she canceled the meet and greet.

Meanwhile this stalls the new kids from starting Monday!
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countrymom 08:11 AM 04-26-2013
omg, thats awful, you need to call the other mom and let her know that her kids can start and not to worry about the other parent.
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MyAngels 08:20 AM 04-26-2013
No way in the world would I take either of these families. Not the former owner, not the flake. No way, no how.
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scarletto'hara 08:35 AM 04-26-2013
If you already have a bad "vibe" about the mom, you may be setting yourself up for continued problems down the road if you do take the child. jmo
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lovemykidstoo 08:53 AM 04-26-2013
Originally Posted by mrsnj:
Just spoke with the interviewing DC mom........

OMG seriously! This woman is under the impression her son was coming! That she thought it was just a 'formality' and her son can remeet me. (This woman is too much!)

So she asked I put her on the waiting list (um hum) but she canceled the meet and greet.

Meanwhile this stalls the new kids from starting Monday!
Yea, put her name on the list and then promptly put it in the garbage can.

Why does this interview with the other lady that wants to bring her child? If she is that wishy washy, I wouldn't take her either. She acts like she's doing you some big favor. I'd ditch both of them. Too much of a headache and they're not even clients of yours technically yet.
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mrsnj 09:02 AM 04-26-2013
Well the DC owner mom I know why she is doing it. She feels bad and is trying to hold out till everyone finds placement. But still.....give notice. Close. She has only been open a year. It isn't like she has a long standing relationship with anyone. They all bailed ship as soon as she gave notice except for this one woman. She has to look out for her family and her new job for that matter. So she is going to try and stay open for ONE client who has had a week and half to look for daycare and found fault with them all and possibly lose her job and her DC spots for her kids? Time to notch that belt buckle a little tighter and move on! I sympathize with her. I get her thoughts but this is my job too it is effecting.

And that last DC mom needs to hit a reality check. She is about as rude as they come!
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TheGoodLife 09:16 AM 04-26-2013
OK, so Im confused! The original DC provider is closing, has her own 2 kids she wants to enroll, as well as keep many of her DC kids she cared for with her own kids? That is just strange. I understand they may be close, but it is neither her business where her DCPs take their kids, nor is it reasonable to expect a home daycare to have enough openings to take everyone!!! why is she so concerned with keeping them together? If you can take her own kids, isn't that what she needs to worry about? Give referrals, but let the families take care of finding the new daycare of themselves : ). That's just weird, all around- I hope it all works out for you!!
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TheGoodLife 09:21 AM 04-26-2013
Oops, didn't see previous post before I started typing : )
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AmyKidsCo 11:04 AM 04-26-2013
I'm always leery of taking people who have been in childcare before - they tend to think they know more than I do and that however their program was run was better than the way I run my program.

Also I wouldn't take the mom who wanted a free trial week. That's just rude - you wouldn't go into a restaurant and ask for a free meal to see if the food is good, or a free haircut to see if you like the stylist.

Go with your gut - there's got to be someone out there who will be a better fit for you.
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