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MissAnn 04:06 PM 03-30-2013
I give my parents free or vacation days....
blandino 04:24 PM 03-30-2013
We don't give any free or vacation days to families. And we take 5 paid vacation days (usually between Christmas and New Years).
MissAnn 04:58 PM 03-30-2013
Originally Posted by blandino:
We don't give any free or vacation days to families. And we take 5 paid vacation days (usually between Christmas and New Years).
I take 8 paid holidays and 5 paid vacation days and 5 unpaid. Last year I gave 5 free days to parents but it was a pain to keep track of. Also, I deserve a paid vacation that isn't a trade off. Still trying to decide what to do.We don't give any free or vacation days to families. And we take 5 paid vacation days (usually between Christmas and New Years).
EntropyControlSpecialist 05:01 PM 03-30-2013
I take 15 paid vacation days (including holidays), and provide my clients with 5 days they can use unpaid after being enrolled for 6 months if they submit their vacation week to me in writing prior to. So, it ends up being that I'm closed for 10 paid days.
Only one family has used the vacation week so far.
Only one family has used the vacation week so far.
ksmith 05:03 PM 03-30-2013
Before I closed I didn't take any paid vacation days. But for families I would charge them half price for one weeks worth of vacation if they gave me two weeks notice.
EchoMom 05:24 PM 03-30-2013
I am closed with pay for a very few holidays. Will close for a one week vacation, unpaid. Parents can have 2 incriments of 1 week per calendar year unpaid if they give me a month's written notice.
juliebug 06:37 PM 03-30-2013
I give parents 5 vacation days but i take all unpaid vacation so i think next year i will take out the 5 days for parents!
MissAnn 07:03 PM 03-30-2013
Originally Posted by juliebug:
I give parents 5 vacation days but i take all unpaid vacation so i think next year i will take out the 5 days for parents!
Please do, or at least give yourself a paid vacation. You are worth it!I give parents 5 vacation days but i take all unpaid vacation so i think next year i will take out the 5 days for parents!
CedarCreek 07:38 PM 03-30-2013
I think I take 10 paid holidays but I give families a week free of vacay. But they have to take it all at once and give me proper notice. I also take a week of vacation unpaid during the summer. I am going to be changing the policies soon to take out their week free though.
SilverSabre25 07:43 PM 03-30-2013
after a family has been with me for one year they can have 5 days free per year.
momofboys 07:55 PM 03-30-2013
Only give 'free' days with advance notice of 2 weeks & then only 5 days per calendar yr
nanglgrl 08:08 PM 03-30-2013
I take 11 paid holidays and 5 paid personal/sick days. Anything I take beyond that is unpaid. My families do not get any unpaid or half-price days.
Texasjeepgirl 08:09 AM 03-31-2013
I take 9 Paid holidays per year...
2 weeks (10 days) of paid vacation.
No free days for clients
2 weeks (10 days) of paid vacation.
No free days for clients
MarinaVanessa 08:47 AM 03-31-2013
I take 11 paid holiday days per year and any other days off for vacation or illness I take unpaid ...
That being said, I don't my clients any vacation days or sick days. If their child is absent for any reason they still pay.
This works for me because I usually only take 5 days off for vacation (in the summer) and I would give clients 5 unpaid vacation days which they would ALL use when I was on vacation (which I allowed) so either way they didn't pay for my vacation and they paid for all of the rest of the time that they were gone.
That being said, I don't my clients any vacation days or sick days. If their child is absent for any reason they still pay.
This works for me because I usually only take 5 days off for vacation (in the summer) and I would give clients 5 unpaid vacation days which they would ALL use when I was on vacation (which I allowed) so either way they didn't pay for my vacation and they paid for all of the rest of the time that they were gone.
LK5kids 03:34 PM 03-31-2013
I give five free days.
mema 06:39 PM 03-31-2013
I have 6 paid holidays and can take up to 10 days of paid vacation. Parents may take 5 days unpaid if given advanced notice.
Laurel 06:42 PM 03-31-2013
I take the major holidays (7 or 8?) paid. I take 2 weeks vacation unpaid and give them two weeks unpaid.
Laurel
Laurel
Evansmom 06:59 PM 03-31-2013
I take 5 paid federal holidays, and 3 weeks unpaid vacations. 2 weeks in summer and 1 the week of Christmas.
I give 2 weeks (10 days) unpaid vacation to my clients.
I give 2 weeks (10 days) unpaid vacation to my clients.
Scout 07:09 PM 03-31-2013
Each family gets two weeks(based on enrollment days so, 3 days would get 6 free days) to use as they like after 90 days. Holidays are paid but, they can use free days only if their child is here the rest of the week. I just openend in Nov. as well so this is likely to change with new clients! When my DS was little and in DC we didn't pay if he wasn't there and it was a big draw for me. Plus, he got sick a lot and missed a lot of days, I figured two weeks would cover those days.
Play Care 03:35 AM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by EchoMom:
I am closed with pay for a very few holidays. Will close for a one week vacation, unpaid. Parents can have 2 incriments of 1 week per calendar year unpaid if they give me a month's written notice.
This, except I get three unpaid weeks. I am closed with pay for a very few holidays. Will close for a one week vacation, unpaid. Parents can have 2 incriments of 1 week per calendar year unpaid if they give me a month's written notice.
I rarely have parents take me up on the "free" weeks, but this week three of my families have!
LaLa1923 05:06 AM 04-01-2013
I get 11 paid holidays, and two weeks of vaca at half pay, I also get 7 personal days. I've been thinking about taking my vaca unpaid.
DaisyMamma 06:21 AM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by juliebug:
I give parents 5 vacation days but i take all unpaid vacation so i think next year i will take out the 5 days for parents!
That's totally backwards!I give parents 5 vacation days but i take all unpaid vacation so i think next year i will take out the 5 days for parents!
You should get a paid vacation, especially if your parents are getting a free week!
Willow 06:26 AM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by MissAnn:
Please do, or at least give yourself a paid vacation. You are worth it!
I seriously LOATHE this sentiment.Please do, or at least give yourself a paid vacation. You are worth it!
It's so beyond rude and full of negative implication.......I believe the work I do is "worth" a million dollars somedays, that doesn't mean I have to charge that. And just because I don't feel compelled to charge for my off the clock time doesn't mean I don't think I'm "worthy." It simply means I don't believe it's ethical.
If you do that's fine, but not everyone needs to operate the same way you do. That's the beauty of being self employed, the freedom to operate anyway an individual believes is productive, yet fair (or at least I hope everyone takes both aspects into account anyway.....)
On topic, I charge hourly. Parents pay for the time I watch their child(ren). I am self employed and like most self employed people I don't believe in charging my families for time my time off the clock.
Excessive absenses are the only exception to that rule for me as I only take full time families and expect regular attendance for income and for my small groups sake.
Willow 06:33 AM 04-01-2013
The definition of the word free is to get something for nothing.
If I'm not providing care, essentially doing nothing, I don't understand how that equates to some as giving something free away to parents.
If I'm not providing care, essentially doing nothing, I don't understand how that equates to some as giving something free away to parents.
MissAnn 06:35 AM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
I seriously LOATHE this sentiment.
It's so beyond rude and full of negative implication.......I believe the work I do is "worth" a million dollars somedays, that doesn't mean I have to charge that. And just because I don't feel compelled to charge for my off the clock time doesn't mean I don't think I'm "worthy." It simply means I don't believe it's ethical.
If you do that's fine, but not everyone needs to operate the same way you do. That's the beauty of being self employed, the freedom to operate anyway an individual believes is productive, yet fair (or at least I hope everyone takes both aspects into account anyway.....)
On topic, I charge hourly. Parents pay for the time I watch their child(ren). I am self employed and like most self employed people I don't believe in charging my families for time my time off the clock.
Excessive absenses are the only exception to that rule for me as I only take full time families and expect regular attendance for income and for my small groups sake.
Just trying to be encouraging.....I seriously LOATHE this sentiment.
It's so beyond rude and full of negative implication.......I believe the work I do is "worth" a million dollars somedays, that doesn't mean I have to charge that. And just because I don't feel compelled to charge for my off the clock time doesn't mean I don't think I'm "worthy." It simply means I don't believe it's ethical.
If you do that's fine, but not everyone needs to operate the same way you do. That's the beauty of being self employed, the freedom to operate anyway an individual believes is productive, yet fair (or at least I hope everyone takes both aspects into account anyway.....)
On topic, I charge hourly. Parents pay for the time I watch their child(ren). I am self employed and like most self employed people I don't believe in charging my families for time my time off the clock.
Excessive absenses are the only exception to that rule for me as I only take full time families and expect regular attendance for income and for my small groups sake.
and yes.....I am worth it!
Evansmom 06:39 AM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by Evansmom:
I take 5 paid federal holidays, and 3 weeks unpaid vacations. 2 weeks in summer and 1 the week of Christmas.
I give 2 weeks (10 days) unpaid vacation to my clients.
I wanted to clarify that I offer the 2 weeks unpaid vacation to my FULL time families only who have been enrolled at least 3 consecutive months.I take 5 paid federal holidays, and 3 weeks unpaid vacations. 2 weeks in summer and 1 the week of Christmas.
I give 2 weeks (10 days) unpaid vacation to my clients.
Willow 06:56 AM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by MissAnn:
Just trying to be encouraging.....
and yes.....I am worth it!
Again, what you decide for yourself is fine. That's your prerogative to charge what and however you want to.Just trying to be encouraging.....
and yes.....I am worth it!
What I have problems with is when one crossed the line into telling other providers what they should be doing, because what they're currently doing is wrong. I realize you didn't use those words but he implication is there and it drives me nuts
How would you feel if I told you you *shouldn't* be charging for that time? That I thought it was wrong for you to do so?
Point is what's right or makes you feel "worthy" doesn't apply across the board. Charging families for time I didn't actually work would make me feel horrendous, and that has nothing to do with my level of self worth.
MissAnn 07:00 AM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Again, what you decide for yourself is fine. That's your prerogative to charge what and however you want to.
What I have problems with is when one crossed the line into telling other providers what they should be doing, because what they're currently doing is wrong. I realize you didn't use those words but he implication is there and it drives me nuts
How would you feel if I told you you *shouldn't* be charging for that time? That I thought it was wrong for you to do so?
Point is what's right or makes you feel "worthy" doesn't apply across the board. Charging families for time I didn't actually work would make me feel horrendous, and that has nothing to do with my level of self worth.
Like I said....it was just encouraging. I am not one to tell anyone how to run their business but I will always encourage in a variety of ways.Again, what you decide for yourself is fine. That's your prerogative to charge what and however you want to.
What I have problems with is when one crossed the line into telling other providers what they should be doing, because what they're currently doing is wrong. I realize you didn't use those words but he implication is there and it drives me nuts
How would you feel if I told you you *shouldn't* be charging for that time? That I thought it was wrong for you to do so?
Point is what's right or makes you feel "worthy" doesn't apply across the board. Charging families for time I didn't actually work would make me feel horrendous, and that has nothing to do with my level of self worth.
Willow 07:08 AM 04-01-2013
What is the difference between telling someone else how to run their business encouraging someone else to run their business the ways *you* think are correct?
Aren't both pretty pretentious?
Who's to say you're right and your ways are indeed correct and best?
Not trying to pick on you, just trying to help you see how that could be pretty offensive to someone, especially if they weren't asking for your judgment or advice in the first place.
Aren't both pretty pretentious?
Who's to say you're right and your ways are indeed correct and best?
Not trying to pick on you, just trying to help you see how that could be pretty offensive to someone, especially if they weren't asking for your judgment or advice in the first place.
daycaremum 07:18 AM 04-01-2013
I do not charge for days when I am unavailable to provide child care services, I don't feel it's right. I am providing a service as a self employed business owner, they are not my employers, so therefore don't owe me vacation pay or sick days. I will be redoing my contract for September and will no longer offer free missed days or free vacation time. Currently I give 5 free missed days per full time child, and unlimited vacation time as long as given 14 days notice. No one has ever abused these days, but since they are so seldom used I am eliminating them. Also, I take 7 weeks off unpaid, so they can easily book their holidays during those weeks.
bluemoose_mom 07:33 AM 04-01-2013
I take two weeks unpaid vacation.
I give two weeks vacation to parents, at half the normal rate.
I close for all major holidays, paid (plus christmas eve). Day before Thanksgiving is an unpaid holiday (just so if thanksgiving is in the middle of the week, we can still travel to visit family).
Next year, I will add Good Friday to my paid days off.
I give two weeks vacation to parents, at half the normal rate.
I close for all major holidays, paid (plus christmas eve). Day before Thanksgiving is an unpaid holiday (just so if thanksgiving is in the middle of the week, we can still travel to visit family).
Next year, I will add Good Friday to my paid days off.
ABCDaycareMN 07:47 AM 04-01-2013
I do not give any free days and I take paid holiday/vacation days. I have a flat guaranteed weekly rate.
GoodKarma 07:48 AM 04-01-2013
I don't give parents any unpaid days. All of my holidays and days off are paid except my 2weeks/ year vacation time.
Sugar Magnolia 10:48 AM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
I seriously LOATHE this sentiment.
It's so beyond rude and full of negative implications......
I loathe tomatoes. I also loathe infomercials, baggy pants with underwear showing, diets and fleas. But I don't "LOATHE" ideas, sentiments, or opinions. To say that seems....well.... rude and full of negative implications. I seriously LOATHE this sentiment.
It's so beyond rude and full of negative implications......
I get paid for federal holidays. I get paid for days kids were out sick or if parents choose to keep their child home. I don't charge for the one week per year vacation I take. I don't find this policy unethical. If you don't agree, that's fine, but please don't loathe my opinion.
NeedaVaca 10:57 AM 04-01-2013
I take paid holidays and 2 weeks paid vacation. My DCF do not get free days off, they pay for the spot. I have a flat weekly rate 52 weeks per year. I've never had an issue with it nor have I lost any families doing it this way.
NeedaVaca 11:04 AM 04-01-2013
This looks like an awesome company! Paid, PAID vacations!
http://www.fullcontact.com/2012/07/1...paid-vacation/
http://www.fullcontact.com/2012/07/1...paid-vacation/
Willow 11:30 AM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by Sugar Magnolia:
I loathe tomatoes. I also loathe infomercials, baggy pants with underwear showing, diets and fleas. But I don't "LOATHE" ideas, sentiments, or opinions.
I loathe tomatoes. I also loathe infomercials, baggy pants with underwear showing, diets and fleas. But I don't "LOATHE" ideas, sentiments, or opinions.
Well good for you.
You are entitled to loathe whatever you do and do not want to.
And I will continue to have my (strong) opinion on criticizing how and what other providers charge (especially when judgement on something so private wasn't solicited).
Heaven help anyone who tries to tell me how I manage my personal finances for my private business lol. If I ask, let the opinions fly but when it works for me and works for my families don't tell me I'm wrong or have some sort of self worth issue.
I do appreciate the poll though, it truly speaks for itself!
AmyKidsCo 12:46 PM 04-01-2013
I give parents 1 week tuition-free vacation after a year of enrollment.
I had to change my policies this year to specify that "free vacation" meant time that the child wasn't in care because I had TWO families use their "free vacation" this year but still bring their children for care.
(Totally my fault for not catching it right away, then allowing it.)
I had to change my policies this year to specify that "free vacation" meant time that the child wasn't in care because I had TWO families use their "free vacation" this year but still bring their children for care.
(Totally my fault for not catching it right away, then allowing it.)
NeedaVaca 01:25 PM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by AmyKidsCo:
I give parents 1 week tuition-free vacation after a year of enrollment.
I had to change my policies this year to specify that "free vacation" meant time that the child wasn't in care because I had TWO families use their "free vacation" this year but still bring their children for care. (Totally my fault for not catching it right away, then allowing it.)
WHAT?? omg, you worked and they didn't have to pay you? I'm sorry but what parents would try to do that? That's ridiculous....I give parents 1 week tuition-free vacation after a year of enrollment.
I had to change my policies this year to specify that "free vacation" meant time that the child wasn't in care because I had TWO families use their "free vacation" this year but still bring their children for care.
(Totally my fault for not catching it right away, then allowing it.)
AmyKidsCo 01:28 PM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by NeedaVaca:
WHAT?? omg, you worked and they didn't have to pay you? I'm sorry but what parents would try to do that? That's ridiculous....
I was surprised too - 18+ years in family child care and it never happened before. But I should've caught on when the parents asked about using their "Free Week" instead of "Free Vacation." At the time it didn't occur to me that the different term meant we had a misunderstanding about the policy. My bad so I honored it.WHAT?? omg, you worked and they didn't have to pay you? I'm sorry but what parents would try to do that? That's ridiculous....
MissAnn 01:43 PM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Well good for you.
You are entitled to loathe whatever you do and do not want to.
And I will continue to have my (strong) opinion on criticizing how and what other providers charge (especially when judgement on something so private wasn't solicited).
Heaven help anyone who tries to tell me how I manage my personal finances for my private business lol. If I ask, let the opinions fly but when it works for me and works for my families don't tell me I'm wrong or have some sort of self worth issue.
I do appreciate the poll though, it truly speaks for itself!
Willow, you seem to miss my point. I did not criticize anyone. I don't play that game. I was encouraging her. I truly doubt that she took offense. If she (or anyone else) were to encourage me to do anything different than what I do......great! Great discussion!Well good for you.
You are entitled to loathe whatever you do and do not want to.
And I will continue to have my (strong) opinion on criticizing how and what other providers charge (especially when judgement on something so private wasn't solicited).
Heaven help anyone who tries to tell me how I manage my personal finances for my private business lol. If I ask, let the opinions fly but when it works for me and works for my families don't tell me I'm wrong or have some sort of self worth issue.
I do appreciate the poll though, it truly speaks for itself!
Now, as far as criticizing goes, I think you might need to take some time to retread your own posts directed at me. Let's play nice, OK
This is a forum, we discuss and we add opinions. We are all in the same boat and that's what attracts us here. I adore this place!
MissAnn 01:44 PM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by AmyKidsCo:
I give parents 1 week tuition-free vacation after a year of enrollment.
I had to change my policies this year to specify that "free vacation" meant time that the child wasn't in care because I had TWO families use their "free vacation" this year but still bring their children for care. (Totally my fault for not catching it right away, then allowing it.)
Don't feel bad.....happened to me too! I guess they think its a vacation from having to pay?I give parents 1 week tuition-free vacation after a year of enrollment.
I had to change my policies this year to specify that "free vacation" meant time that the child wasn't in care because I had TWO families use their "free vacation" this year but still bring their children for care.
(Totally my fault for not catching it right away, then allowing it.)
MissAnn 01:46 PM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by AmyKidsCo:
I give parents 1 week tuition-free vacation after a year of enrollment.
I had to change my policies this year to specify that "free vacation" meant time that the child wasn't in care because I had TWO families use their "free vacation" this year but still bring their children for care. (Totally my fault for not catching it right away, then allowing it.)
Question.....do they get this every year after their initial year?I give parents 1 week tuition-free vacation after a year of enrollment.
I had to change my policies this year to specify that "free vacation" meant time that the child wasn't in care because I had TWO families use their "free vacation" this year but still bring their children for care.
(Totally my fault for not catching it right away, then allowing it.)
Scout 06:09 PM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Well good for you.
You are entitled to loathe whatever you do and do not want to.
And I will continue to have my (strong) opinion on criticizing how and what other providers charge (especially when judgement on something so private wasn't solicited).
Heaven help anyone who tries to tell me how I manage my personal finances for my private business lol. If I ask, let the opinions fly but when it works for me and works for my families don't tell me I'm wrong or have some sort of self worth issue.
I do appreciate the poll though, it truly speaks for itself!
Seriously, did you read this before you hit submit? Give me a break! She never said that anyone was wrong by NOT charging, she just wants us to earn our worth!! If we were working in a different field we would get paid days off(more than likely) so why shouldn't we working for ourselves? Don't be so quick to judge just because you don't agree.Well good for you.
You are entitled to loathe whatever you do and do not want to.
And I will continue to have my (strong) opinion on criticizing how and what other providers charge (especially when judgement on something so private wasn't solicited).
Heaven help anyone who tries to tell me how I manage my personal finances for my private business lol. If I ask, let the opinions fly but when it works for me and works for my families don't tell me I'm wrong or have some sort of self worth issue.
I do appreciate the poll though, it truly speaks for itself!
This forum used to be fun...not so much anymore.
Willow 06:47 PM 04-01-2013
I do think you're right Scout about that. It hurts that everytime this topic comes up if someone else disagrees with charging a certain way their self worth is called into question.
It wasn't this one thread, my feelings are the result of the plethora of broken record "but don't you think you deserve it" comments. Tom Copeland suggests incorporating those vacation/sick day/vacation day losses directly into your rates. If someone does that over charging separately it's often implied and even flat out said here that they must be bending over.
I'm quite sure that drives people away. I.know it leaves one heck of a bad taste in my mouth....just something to consider in the future when those hoping to encourage choose their words.....
It wasn't this one thread, my feelings are the result of the plethora of broken record "but don't you think you deserve it" comments. Tom Copeland suggests incorporating those vacation/sick day/vacation day losses directly into your rates. If someone does that over charging separately it's often implied and even flat out said here that they must be bending over.
I'm quite sure that drives people away. I.know it leaves one heck of a bad taste in my mouth....just something to consider in the future when those hoping to encourage choose their words.....
mom2many 10:01 PM 04-01-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
Seriously, did you read this before you hit submit? Don't be so quick to judge just because you don't agree. This forum used to be fun...not so much anymore.
I agree.... & thought it was just me! I've been sick for the past week and just been on here off and on, but I have to say the forum seems to have taken a negative turn for the worse. Seriously, did you read this before you hit submit? Don't be so quick to judge just because you don't agree.
This forum used to be fun...not so much anymore.I'm all for reading everyones opinions, but respect is also a key issue!
MissAnn 05:14 AM 04-02-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
I do think you're right Scout about that. It hurts that everytime this topic comes up if someone else disagrees with charging a certain way their self worth is called into question.
It wasn't this one thread, my feelings are the result of the plethora of broken record "but don't you think you deserve it" comments. Tom Copeland suggests incorporating those vacation/sick day/vacation day losses directly into your rates. If someone does that over charging separately it's often implied and even flat out said here that they must be bending over.
I'm quite sure that drives people away. I.know it leaves one heck of a bad taste in my mouth....just something to consider in the future when those hoping to encourage choose their words.....
I'm usually full with a waiting list. I don't think it's driven anyone away. Not sure why it bothers you so much.....how people charge. The beauty of this business is that we decide how to run our own businesses.I do think you're right Scout about that. It hurts that everytime this topic comes up if someone else disagrees with charging a certain way their self worth is called into question.
It wasn't this one thread, my feelings are the result of the plethora of broken record "but don't you think you deserve it" comments. Tom Copeland suggests incorporating those vacation/sick day/vacation day losses directly into your rates. If someone does that over charging separately it's often implied and even flat out said here that they must be bending over.
I'm quite sure that drives people away. I.know it leaves one heck of a bad taste in my mouth....just something to consider in the future when those hoping to encourage choose their words.....
MissAnn 05:15 AM 04-02-2013
Originally Posted by mom2many:
I agree.... & thought it was just me! I've been sick for the past week and just been on here off and on, but I have to say the forum seems to have taken a negative turn for the worse.
I'm all for reading everyones opinions, but respect is also a key issue!
Kinda threw me for a loop too. Like, whoa, where did that come from?I agree.... & thought it was just me! I've been sick for the past week and just been on here off and on, but I have to say the forum seems to have taken a negative turn for the worse.
I'm all for reading everyones opinions, but respect is also a key issue!