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DaisyMamma 09:24 PM 01-12-2013
Now that we've successfully given eachother pink eye, colds, flu, etc. I'm done with cloth hand towels. For now I'm using kleenex hand towels in the cardboard dispencer, but they aren't cheap. I might just use paper towels, but I'm envisioning them unrolled, all over the bathroom I need ideas on dispensers.
What do you use?
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Crazy In Mo 10:35 PM 01-12-2013
I use paper towels with a cheap under the counter mount type of dispenser I have it hung on the wall vertically rather than horizonaly. I think it's easier to tear off hung this way. I don't have a problem with them being unrolled. My states regulations require a seperate hand towel for each child that is changed/washed daily, I'd never be able to keep up with that. I had the fear of the entire roll being unrolled too if that was the case I was going to buy a commercial paper towel dispenser, they are like $25 at SAMs club.
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CrackerJacks 10:37 PM 01-12-2013
I was just thinking the same exact thing earlier this week. I'm about over the hand towels as well. I was thinking of something like a metal paper towel wall dispenser (like the ones they have in public restrooms) mounted on the wall in the bathroom, and I think you can buy the folded paper towels in bulk at Costco. They have several models on amazon.



http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002V...sr=8-5&pi=SL75
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Sunshine74 10:41 PM 01-12-2013
We use regular paper towels, mounted on the wall at the children's level. The select a size are perfect for little hands, and they are (usually) pretty good about taking just one.
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EchoMom 11:30 PM 01-12-2013
Ok, maybe this is a dumb question....

Do hand towels really spread germs? Aren't their hands clean when they wash them (well, when you help them wash them). And don't you lose a lot of profit by going through tons of paper towels?

Related question, what do you all use to wipe up counters, tables, etc, etc. I've used clorox wipes which I love, but too expensive. Sponges, but dirty? Paper towels and spray seems time consuming and wasteful of resources and profit. Thoughts?

Legally unlicensed, so I don't have to worry about regulations, I'm just looking for common sense and best tricks of the trade!

Thanks!
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snips&snails 11:51 PM 01-12-2013
I do what I learned in one center - buy white towels/rags in bulk (cheap @ Walmart) & just toss them in a bucket after each child & run a small bleach load at the end of the day or as needed. I usually take a couple days to get a loads worth; I just hate the idea of using/buying disposables all the time. If I did use disposables I would definitely use the industrial style that another poster mentioned
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CrackerJacks 11:56 PM 01-12-2013
Originally Posted by EchoMom:
Ok, maybe this is a dumb question....

Do hand towels really spread germs? Aren't their hands clean when they wash them (well, when you help them wash them). And don't you lose a lot of profit by going through tons of paper towels?



Related question, what do you all use to wipe up counters, tables, etc, etc. I've used clorox wipes which I love, but too expensive. Sponges, but dirty? Paper towels and spray seems time consuming and wasteful of resources and profit. Thoughts?

Legally unlicensed, so I don't have to worry about regulations, I'm just looking for common sense and best tricks of the trade!

Thanks!
We do ALOT of hand washing here, because of this we go through at least 5 towels a day because they never fully dry, the wet damp hand towels allow for bacteria to grow much more rapidly. I also have several SA kids. I don't really like to stand over them to watch to make sure that they are washing their hands the correct way every time they use the restroom (so I'm sure their hands could be cleaner lol!)

I use Clorox clean up and paper towels for my counters, tables and toys. But you could also just use a simple bleach to water solution, 1/4 tsp bleach per cup of water. This solution can be mixed in a spray bottle, but must be mixed daily or it looses its effects.
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CrackerJacks 11:59 PM 01-12-2013
Originally Posted by snips&snails:
I do what I learned in one center - buy white towels/rags in bulk (cheap @ Walmart) & just toss them in a bucket after each child & run a small bleach load at the end of the day or as needed. I usually take a couple days to get a loads worth; I just hate the idea of using/buying disposables all the time. If I did use disposables I would definitely use the industrial style that another poster mentioned
Does each child get their own towel for the day, or is it a one time use and then get tossed in the bucket? If each child is given their own towel for the day, how to you know who's belongs to whom?
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LoraJenkins 06:34 AM 01-13-2013
I tear off paper towels, fold them in half and store them in a box on the counter. It is so much easier for the little ones to use. I only go through 1 roll a week on average so the cost isn't that much.
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Angelsj 07:31 AM 01-13-2013
We do the white towels and wash cloths for diapering and handwashing/drying. I have a bucket in my (non accessible) laundry room where I toss them all, and run a bleach load at the end of each day.

I do have paper towels for the older kids mounted a bit above where the littlest ones can reach, but they are all pretty good about not unrolling. It has happened a few of times, and it was almost always the older kids. I make them help with clean up, and they usually discover it wasn't THAT much fun.
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MamaBearCanada 07:31 AM 01-13-2013
I bought each child 5 facecloths and they each have their own colour. They hang on a hook where you push the facecloth into a plastic disk that grabs them. They get a new one each day and I run them through a hot wash at the end of the week. This was suggested by someone in an earlier thread so I can't claim credit. It wasn't expensive and it's easy. We have very little sickness. For SA I would probably get actual hand towels.
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Blackcat31 07:40 AM 01-13-2013
I use this paper towel dispenser. It is similar to the ones you see in public restrooms. The kids have never had an issue using too much paper towel or had any issues operating it.

It costs $6.28 at Sam's Club. I pay around $40 for 6 rolls of refills. The refil rolls are about 580 ft long so they last a looooong time.

For cleaning up after lunch and snack, I use a dish cloth but use a new one for each time. I have STACKS of them.

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/scott-s...prod7010079.ip
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MissAnn 10:43 AM 01-13-2013
Originally Posted by MamaBearCanada:
I bought each child 5 facecloths and they each have their own colour. They hang on a hook where you push the facecloth into a plastic disk that grabs them. They get a new one each day and I run them through a hot wash at the end of the week. This was suggested by someone in an earlier thread so I can't claim credit. It wasn't expensive and it's easy. We have very little sickness. For SA I would probably get actual hand towels.
We cannot use a cloth more than once. One time use only. Honestly using the same cloth all day does not seem very sanitary to me.
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LaLa1923 11:50 AM 01-13-2013
There's a holder I bought at Wal-Mart that allows you to pull only one off and you could do it with one hand., they only get one paper towel at a time and I use sparkle select a size., I do like the rag idea, but used like a paper towel. I will look into the cost.
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snips&snails 01:01 PM 01-13-2013
Originally Posted by CrackerJacks:
Does each child get their own towel for the day, or is it a one time use and then get tossed in the bucket? If each child is given their own towel for the day, how to you know who's belongs to whom?
Its a one time use then tossed in the bucket - however I have debated getting each child a different color & using it throughout the day
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itlw8 03:22 PM 01-13-2013
Originally Posted by EchoMom:
Ok, maybe this is a dumb question....

Do hand towels really spread germs? Aren't their hands clean when they wash them (well, when you help them wash them). And don't you lose a lot of profit by going through tons of paper towels?

Related question, what do you all use to wipe up counters, tables, etc, etc. I've used clorox wipes which I love, but too expensive. Sponges, but dirty? Paper towels and spray seems time consuming and wasteful of resources and profit. Thoughts?

Legally unlicensed, so I don't have to worry about regulations, I'm just looking for common sense and best tricks of the trade!

Thanks!
I health classes they teach us that there are still germs hiding in warm moist places like between the fingers and when you dry with a paper towel some germs will be on the towel you toss in the trash. It is supposed to be better to dry with a paper towel than an blow dryer.

I bought a dispenser and use C fold towels from SAMS
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Thetotspot 04:15 PM 01-13-2013
I have a couple hundred wash rags i bought at walmart for about 4 dollars a dozen...usually on sale at end of summer for kids moving into dorms. I have a basket on the counter full of them and i refill several times a day. The kids wash their hands and we dry with one and throw it in the laundry basket. I wash them and start all over again. I love doing it this way because then we can wet them to wash faces. The kids go grab them to go wash off thebwhiteboard and tables and basically anything. We dont have paper towels anymore because kids would grab the roll and contaminate it all. This works great for us.
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MissAnn 05:58 PM 01-13-2013
Originally Posted by Thetotspot:
I have a couple hundred wash rags i bought at walmart for about 4 dollars a dozen...usually on sale at end of summer for kids moving into dorms. I have a basket on the counter full of them and i refill several times a day. The kids wash their hands and we dry with one and throw it in the laundry basket. I wash them and start all over again. I love doing it this way because then we can wet them to wash faces. The kids go grab them to go wash off thebwhiteboard and tables and basically anything. We dont have paper towels anymore because kids would grab the roll and contaminate it all. This works great for us.
What kind of rags? Washcloths? Do you fold them? I used to do this but got tired of folding them. I am very earth friendly in most areas so I feel bad to use all paper towels.
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Abigail 06:45 PM 01-13-2013
I have been using this for the bathroom. It's from Sam's Club and was only $20. Mounted very easily to the wall and I actually drilled my own holes to make sure it wasn't going to fall off or get bumped with 10+ people using it. It is not automatic so it doesn't use a battery or need a plug-in. It's only a few inches thick so it's very space efficient too! My only concern was that paper towels would fall out of it or come out in multiples but they don't! The paper towels only come out one at a time and the kids know to only use one. I have 18months-3 year olds using it.
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/maratho....ip?navAction=


The refills are only $24 for 16 packs of 250 so that is 4,000. With 7 full time kids and we wash our hands many times a day I estimate I will go through 4 boxes this year. http://www.samsclub.com/sams/gp-sign....ip?navAction=

We have the kids wash their hands:
1. At Arrival Time
2. Before Breakfast
3. After Breakfast
4. After Art
5. Before Snack
6. After Snack
7. After Playing Outside
8. Before Lunch
9. After Lunch
10. Before Snack
11. After Snack
12. After Any Potty Break

So yeah having so many kids use 12 paper towels a day costing only $100/year is not bad at all!



I don't use paper towels for myself or my employee. We use handtowels and change it daily or more as needed. My changing table is not in the bathroom, it's in the main room. We have all white wash cloths from Walmart to use to clean just the changing table. If we see any poo we use a wet wipe first. We use two wash cloths for each sanitizing "session" for soap water then bleach water solution. The wash cloths are all white because they are identified as changing table towels and also can be bleached if needed which I've never done all year. The regular price at Walmart year round is $4 for 12 rags. I bought about 8 or so and they need to be washed a few times before they "absorb" much and then the strings I took time to cut them from the initial washings so they do look nice and work well. We have a small basket on the ledge we put the cloths into once used. The clean ones are folded in quarters and stacked on a shelf in the other room by the bathroom and we just grab one tall stack each day. We have enough white wash cloths to go M-F and toss them in the wash together. During nap and at the end of the day we dump our small basket in the main room of the used ones into a big basket in the laundry room until wash day.

For our daycare tables and counters we started with some blue rags (until I learned to use a different once each time, lol) but ended up buying a lot of the white dish clothes with the colored stripes on the ends. These came from the dish cloth area at Walmart and were about $6 for a pack of 12 and I have 4 packs that last a week. These are nice ones because we use them upstairs in our own kitchen as well so I spent the extra few dollars. This way these clothes are never mixed up with the the changing table white cloths. We use a spray bottle that is kept in the kitchen for soap water and another for bleach water solution just like the main room. We spray it down well and use 2 cloths, one for each bottle and they are used once and tossed into the tub. We use the bathroom tub to toss any used cloths from kitchen cleaning, hand towels from the bathroom, art smocks, or any "dirty" yet washable items from the playroom like soft blocks that were slobbered on or blankets that were chewed on from the toy dolls etc. It works well. I have a separate daycare bathroom downstairs so we do this so everything in the bathroom at the end of the week can be washed together.

I end up doing one load of white wash cloths, one load of kitchen/play room items from the tub collection, and one load of all sleeping blankets each week. I like what I have for right now.
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melilley 08:24 PM 01-13-2013
Originally Posted by EchoMom:
Ok, maybe this is a dumb question....

Do hand towels really spread germs? Aren't their hands clean when they wash them (well, when you help them wash them). And don't you lose a lot of profit by going through tons of paper towels?

Related question, what do you all use to wipe up counters, tables, etc, etc. I've used clorox wipes which I love, but too expensive. Sponges, but dirty? Paper towels and spray seems time consuming and wasteful of resources and profit. Thoughts?

Legally unlicensed, so I don't have to worry about regulations, I'm just looking for common sense and best tricks of the trade!

Thanks!
The three step system: Soap water, rinse water then non scented chlorine bleach water. Simple and cheap. You are supposed to leave the bleach water to air dry and like someone else said, the bleach water has to be made everyday or it looses its effectiveness. There is also a proper ratio to mix it so that the bleach doesn't fade or ruin things. 1 teaspoon to one tablespoon per gallon of water. You do have to buy paper towels, but soap and bleach are cheap so it kind of evens out. Or you could use wash cloths, but you would have to use a different one each time.
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Crazy In Mo 08:48 PM 01-13-2013
Originally Posted by melilley:
The three step system: Soap water, rinse water then non scented chlorine bleach water. Simple and cheap. You are supposed to leave the bleach water to air dry and like someone else said, the bleach water has to be made everyday or it looses its effectiveness. There is also a proper ratio to mix it so that the bleach doesn't fade or ruin things. 1 teaspoon to one tablespoon per gallon of water. You do have to buy paper towels, but soap and bleach are cheap so it kind of evens out. Or you could use wash cloths, but you would have to use a different one each time.
I test my bottles periodically with the test strips and have never had a bottle "go bad" before I used it. My sanitation inspector did say it could happen if the bottle sat in direct sunlight for an extended period of time. I do not mix a new bottle everyday.
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mema 08:56 PM 01-13-2013
I buy the select a size Sam's Club brand. I just rip a few off and have them on the counter. I only have a few kids, so after each potty break/hand wash time, I just check and rip a few more. I use to have 2 that would use half the roll to dry and 1 of them also used them as toilet paper. When they were here, I only left 1 on the counter at a time and the rest outside of the bathroom and would have to replace them every.single.time.
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melilley 09:20 PM 01-13-2013
Originally Posted by Crazy In Mo:
I test my bottles periodically with the test strips and have never had a bottle "go bad" before I used it. My sanitation inspector did say it could happen if the bottle sat in direct sunlight for an extended period of time. I do not mix a new bottle everyday.
I don't think it goes bad, it just looses it's effectiveness.
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MarinaVanessa 09:47 PM 01-13-2013
This is what I use. I chose this because I wanted something that didn't look so "industrial" like what you would see in a public bathroom. It works well, I wall mounted it and would take it down when I had company over but I stopped doing that after a while and would just put a cloth hand towel in there for looks when people came over but even they preferred to use the paper towels instead of the cloth one. With mine you load it from the top and pull the paper towels from the bottom. They come out one by one.


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kitykids3 08:22 PM 01-14-2013
I have one of these mounted just above the sink. I only use disposable paper towels for the kiddos. I order refills online. I couldn't imagine using cloth towels - no where to put them all, plus I don't see it as sanitary.
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DaisyMamma 08:54 AM 01-15-2013
Originally Posted by MarinaVanessa:
This is what I use. I chose this because I wanted something that didn't look so "industrial" like what you would see in a public bathroom. It works well, I wall mounted it and would take it down when I had company over but I stopped doing that after a while and would just put a cloth hand towel in there for looks when people came over but even they preferred to use the paper towels instead of the cloth one. With mine you load it from the top and pull the paper towels from the bottom. They come out one by one.

Where did you buy it?

Originally Posted by kitykids3:
I have one of these mounted just above the sink. I only use disposable paper towels for the kiddos. I order refills online. I couldn't imagine using cloth towels - no where to put them all, plus I don't see it as sanitary.
Where do you get the refills?
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LaLa1923 10:38 AM 01-15-2013
Originally Posted by kitykids3:
I have one of these mounted just above the sink. I only use disposable paper towels for the kiddos. I order refills online. I couldn't imagine using cloth towels - no where to put them all, plus I don't see it as sanitary.
If they are used like paper towels and washed in bleach I don't see why not.,


It costs about .15 to wash a load of laundry, that's less than $6 a year! I'm not cheap but considering switching to cloth and then toss them in the basket.
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youretooloud 10:43 AM 01-15-2013
I don't like to use paper towels, but, I do buy tons of washrags and each kid dries with one towel, then throws in in the vicinity of the basket below the sink. (heaven forbid they try to aim)

I just throw them in a load of laundry every few days. I don't wash them special...but, they get washed.
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itlw8 11:26 AM 01-15-2013
Originally Posted by Crazy In Mo:
I test my bottles periodically with the test strips and have never had a bottle "go bad" before I used it. My sanitation inspector did say it could happen if the bottle sat in direct sunlight for an extended period of time. I do not mix a new bottle everyday.
Same for me they used to make us make new daily but now just test. I used to keep mine in the window so the life was shorter. I only test every 3 or so days and it is always fine.

Most states do not use test strips so mixing new is the only way to know if you do not test. Plus in MO we use a much lower concentration except for blood than other states.

I love the washcloth idea Thanks ladies. Especially the different colors for different jobs. I do have old ones in the table area in a basket and the kids are fast to wipe up spills now.
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DaycareMama 11:29 AM 01-15-2013
I also got a dispenser from SAMs club and use the three folded paper towels. I love love love it. At first I thought ugh what a waste. So I put an extra paper towel only can in the bathroom and recycle. I used wash clothes for years. Each child had their own new one everyday. But that was just to much. I love this now. A box of 4000 for $25 last me at least 3-4 months and I use them in the kitchen and bathroom
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itlw8 11:33 AM 01-15-2013
reminds me of my last health Dept inspection She quizzed me on hand washing.. I missed a few. after smoking ( I do not smoke)

Before playing in the water table. sensory table and with playdough. I never thought about kids putting germs in there and how fast they would grow and spread.
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MarinaVanessa 01:07 PM 01-16-2013
Originally Posted by DaisyMamma:
Where did you buy it?



Where do you get the refills?
I bought the holder on Amazon for about $15-$20 and I get the refills from Amazon also. Well I did before ... it was the best deal I could find but I bought the refills in large qty's and havn't had to reorder any more. Now that Amazon charges sales tax I'll have to check around again and see if it might be worth it to buy them somewhere else.

Discount school supplies has good prices on the paper towels too I just have to check again about the shipping and see what's a better deal.
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DaisyMamma 01:17 PM 01-16-2013
Thank you
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melilley 03:44 PM 01-16-2013
Originally Posted by itlw8:
reminds me of my last health Dept inspection She quizzed me on hand washing.. I missed a few. after smoking ( I do not smoke)

Before playing in the water table. sensory table and with playdough. I never thought about kids putting germs in there and how fast they would grow and spread.
Also before and after administering medication. I didn't think of that one before!
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