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EchoMom 10:34 AM 11-06-2013
So, I had to tell a parent we wouldn't be able to provide the care her newborn needs. We had the infant scheduled for a half day today, as a first day before mom goes back to work on Monday.

The baby screamed and screamed and screamed. It was like it was in horrible pain/distress. Baby did nap and take a bottle but only after screaming and screaming and screaming. It was miserable for my assistant and I, it was miserable for the other children and babies...

DCM said baby is almost always like that and they don't know what to do either. Baby has been on Zantac since a month old, went to the chiropractor, suspects dairy allergy...

I have and have had other tiny babies before and have seen angelic babies as well as more difficult, refluxy babies. But this was unbelievable. So loud... There's no way we could have a positive environment for ourselves and the kids with that going on, let alone if other parents heard that!

Plus, I feel terrible for the baby. Miserable, absolutely miserable like in total agony with no relief. That baby needs way more help than we can provide in small group care.



What do daycare CENTERS do with chronic screamers? Do they term? Or do centers keep everyone who pays?

I feel terrible, never had to term someone immediately, but the alternative doesn't look promising. The DCM is at a total loss as well and deals with the same screaming at home.


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Brooksie 10:40 AM 11-06-2013
Oh my Poor thing. Sounds like what I went through with dd. She was on meds for reflux and it wasnt until she was 5-6 months that we were finally referred to a specialist and found out she was allergic to dairy AND soy. I stopped breast feeding and we put her on a special formula and we had a new baby in like 2 days. She started growing, stopped screaming constantly, stopped projectile vomiting and started sleeping. I think there is something going on medically that needs to be addressed.
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melilley 10:41 AM 11-06-2013
I have, well had a screamer (he's still here, but doesn't scream/cry anymore) and regret not terming to this day. I was miserable for about 7 months. Never again!

And I have worked in centers and yes, most do keep babies no matter what, especially corporate centers. It's sad, but in my experience, most corporate centers will keep any child and it takes a lot to get them termed! It's all about money.
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cheerfuldom 11:46 AM 11-06-2013
You did the right thing. A child that needs so much attention should have mom or a nanny. It is the parent's responsibility to find appropriate care. I termed one child after two hours, it was that bad. only in my case the baby was older so just big enough to scream bloody murder, crawl after other kids and scratch and cling to them. i later found out that the baby had been kicked out of multiple daycares and the mom stayed home with the child and that is what was needed.
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MCC 12:49 PM 11-06-2013
I'm so sorry you had to term so early, but I'm glad you went with your gut.

I have a screamer right now, and I am really struggling with what to do. They paid to hold the spot for about 8 weeks before she started. She's been here a month, and so far there have only been 3 days where she didn't scream. I had to send her home at 12 today, b/c we just could not handle it anymore, and the baby needed it eat, but wouldn't.

I am a total advocate for no soy no dairy in any fussy babies. Like PP, my own DD was awful from 3-9 weeks. She projectile vomited, screamed, had lose muscusy stools. My lactation consultant told me to stop eating soy and dairy, and we had a new baby in 3 days. She started gaining weight, sleeping, it was amazing!
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TwinKristi 01:00 PM 11-06-2013
Does anyone utilize baby carriers? I've never had a screamer to the point of not being able to keep them but I'm still new at this. I had a baby who was 12mo who would occasionally get really upset and cry for what seemed like hours and made everyone miserable when he did. Sometimes I would put him in the carrier and it helped to get the kids transitioning from one activity to another without him upsetting everyone.
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MCC 01:07 PM 11-06-2013
Originally Posted by TwinKristi:
Does anyone utilize baby carriers? I've never had a screamer to the point of not being able to keep them but I'm still new at this. I had a baby who was 12mo who would occasionally get really upset and cry for what seemed like hours and made everyone miserable when he did. Sometimes I would put him in the carrier and it helped to get the kids transitioning from one activity to another without him upsetting everyone.
The baby I have currently will not stop crying for anything. In my opinion, if a bottle, a nap, a burp, or a cuddle wont fix the problem, that baby is inconsolable. If this continues for multiple days with no improvement, it becomes a problem for my parents, my other kids, and most importantly for me! This baby is just plain uncomfortable, she's 3mo.

I do have a carrier, but I find it very awkward to use while trying to do things with the older kids.
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Lil'DinoEggs 12:42 PM 11-10-2013
Originally Posted by TwinKristi:
Does anyone utilize baby carriers? I've never had a screamer to the point of not being able to keep them but I'm still new at this. I had a baby who was 12mo who would occasionally get really upset and cry for what seemed like hours and made everyone miserable when he did. Sometimes I would put him in the carrier and it helped to get the kids transitioning from one activity to another without him upsetting everyone.
I am working with my first infant and I use a carrier. I told mom that I like to use them. I used them a lot with my first two children. However, I have come to regret this because since the baby started teething, she will only go down for a nap if she is nursed-down or worn-down. I finally can rock her to sleep but I can't put her down. I am so mad because when she was three months, I got her to go to sleep on her own! Mom said I was the only person that could do that. But now, nothing. Plus she is tiny but strong and at six months she will pull herself up and hang out to one side which makes it difficult and uncomfortable.

In the future, I would only use the carrier for drop ins or part times as it does calm fussy babies. But I wouldn't let a full time baby get used to it. If a full time baby is a screamer, it may not be appropriate for full time care.
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KidGrind 11:49 AM 11-10-2013
Originally Posted by EchoMom:
So, I had to tell a parent we wouldn't be able to provide the care her newborn needs. We had the infant scheduled for a half day today, as a first day before mom goes back to work on Monday.

The baby screamed and screamed and screamed. It was like it was in horrible pain/distress. Baby did nap and take a bottle but only after screaming and screaming and screaming. It was miserable for my assistant and I, it was miserable for the other children and babies...

DCM said baby is almost always like that and they don't know what to do either. Baby has been on Zantac since a month old, went to the chiropractor, suspects dairy allergy...

I have and have had other tiny babies before and have seen angelic babies as well as more difficult, refluxy babies. But this was unbelievable. So loud... There's no way we could have a positive environment for ourselves and the kids with that going on, let alone if other parents heard that!

Plus, I feel terrible for the baby. Miserable, absolutely miserable like in total agony with no relief. That baby needs way more help than we can provide in small group care.



What do daycare CENTERS do with chronic screamers? Do they term? Or do centers keep everyone who pays?

I feel terrible, never had to term someone immediately, but the alternative doesn't look promising. The DCM is at a total loss as well and deals with the same screaming at home.


I have an hourly baby who is level 10 screamer. DCB is unconsolable. My husband begs for me to send him on errands.

I charge the parents $75 per visit. I am thinking about terming. The baby has an appointment coming up shortly. I am hoping the doctor figures it out or sends them to a specialist.

I feel bad for the DCB. I can tell DCB is absolutely miserable.
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