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Josiegirl 02:47 AM 03-03-2015
Being an in home provider, if a child or dcf becomes too much to handle, we can let them go. But what does a center do? Do you deal with it until they age out? How does that affect the staff and other kids/families? What happens if your payment is always slow to come or a child consistently bites or whatever the scenario is?

I'm just curious this a.m.
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Shell 04:35 AM 03-03-2015
When I worked at centers for over a decade, I never once saw a child that was asked to leave (I worked at at least 3 different ones, too).
I don't mean to generalize, because I know it can be offensive to the good women that run/work at great centers, but I mostly worked at corporate ones, and they had us teachers deal with behaviors that I would have immediately termed for- I'm talking aggressive kids that hit and spat at teachers, would run over to a group of children playing and begin hitting and kicking and screaming- the type of kids that really need help from trained individuals, those with experience with behavioral disorders.
As teachers, we passed the kids from classroom to classroom in hopes that "older" kids would help with modeling good behavior or "younger" kids would make them a role model and step up. Directors rarely helped out.
Some of my friends had been kicked, scratched, etc and told they just needed to re-arrange their classroom space and that would solve everything
Teachers were blamed in order to keep on kids.
Maybe others have more positive experiences?
I also was kicked in the stomach by an aggressive child while pregnant. My director said it was fine because the baby is well insulated.
I nearly exploded and told her it was absolutely unacceptable, and what were they going to do about this child?!
Well, he lasted two more years and about four more teachers longer than me
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Shell 04:46 AM 03-03-2015
I also wanted to add: a few years ago, I worked in a public school after school program, and the most aggressive child was a child that I knew (but never had as a student) from one of the centers where I worked!
They asked him to leave the program, and this was a real awakening for me- like, we don't have to keep dealing with this type of behavior?!
I was happy to see a program that said no more to aggressive kids that hurt and scared others. I believe they got him help with a therapist.
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Baby Beluga 06:02 AM 03-03-2015
Originally Posted by Shell:
I also wanted to add: a few years ago, I worked in a public school after school program, and the most aggressive child was a child that I knew (but never had as a student) from one of the centers where I worked!
They asked him to leave the program, and this was a real awakening for me- like, we don't have to keep dealing with this type of behavior?!
I was happy to see a program that said no more to aggressive kids that hurt and scared others. I believe they got him help with a therapist.
This was how I felt when I first joined this forum.

I worked in centers for many many years and have only seen one child be asked to leave. Some of the other children had absolutely horrendous behavior and truly needed help. They could have likely thrived with the proper help and environment but the administration did not want to ask them to leave for enrollment purposes.

When I joined this forum terming because of a parent or child's behavior was a very foreign concept. On a different but similar note, not accepting a family because they are not a good fit for the program was also a new concept. In the centers I have worked at they accepted anyone and everyone, again because of enrollment.
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Leigh 06:12 AM 03-03-2015
We have a center here where the worst of the worst end up. Run by very capable people, who possess an amazing amount of patience. I never hear of a kid getting kicked out of there. Last week, I heard that one that I termed for biting (nearly 5 now) bit one of his providers 3 times in 2 weeks. The kid hits, kicks, punches, bites, spits-you name an undesirable behavior, and that kid does it. He's still there, even though everyone who cares for him wishes he weren't. Even though the directors are well aware that they can't control this child's behavior, they think that supervision will keep the other kids safe. Unless he has his own adult (or 2), that isn't going to happen. Likely, though, that the kids he is hurting are kids who hurt other kids, too. It's sad, but that's where the kids end up when no one else will take care of them.
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permanentvacation 06:30 AM 03-03-2015
I worked at 3 centers. One just for a day (it was a DANGEROUS place!), the other for a week (it was too chaotic for me) and the other for almost a year. The one I was at for about at year, I was a floater and worked in every room ages 6 weeks - school-agers, filled in as an aide or teacher in every room, the office, the kitchen, and helped with custodial work.

What they did there with the children who were a bit much to handle, was to send to the office when their teacher in their regular room had enough of the child. After being in the office for a while, they'd try to send the child back to his/her regular room. If that teacher still didn't want him/her back, they'd just flop the child from room to room as he/she drove each teacher too nuts and she kicked him/her out. But, at the end of the day, the child would ALWAYS be in his/her correct room and the teacher would tell his/her mother what a GREAT day he/she had. They kept the children no matter what just to keep the money coming in!

That same center, however, had about 1/3 of it's clients in at least a month's arrears (behind in at least a month's worth of payments!) and they just let them keep coming and racking up back payments. I guess eventually, the parents would catch their payments up.
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Crystal 05:36 PM 03-06-2015
I think as FCC's we have a little more "power" to term when we feel it is needed, yet I believe the majority do not do it, for the same reason centers don't. I see posts on this forum every day by FCCP's complaining about children's and parent's atrocious behavior, yet also stating that they cannot term due to financial needs.
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