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happymom 09:51 AM 07-15-2015
I'm not sure how many of you work in centers but I am struggling a bit with our recent change.
My 3 year old started at a child care center on Monday so today is only his 3rd day. The first day it took him 1hr 20min to fall asleep at nap time. He hasn't napped in over a year, so I knew moving him to a center that required 2 hours of rest time could be challenging. It didn't occur to me that he would be crying on his mat for that long. He told me his teacher came and rubbed his back and he fell asleep. On his report it stated that he had a great day but with difficulties at nap time.
Day 2 he did not nap at all according to his report, but it also didn't say anything in his report regarding his nap time. He tells me he didn't cry (but he also tells me that he took a nap that day....and he's also 3....so you really never know)
What I am trying to learn is when is an appropraite time to talk to his teacher? When I pick him up in the afternoon, his main teacher has gone home for the day and someone else gives me his report. I am working to encourage him to take a nap when the other kids do, I did my best to prep him for it, but I am not having the greatest understanding of how new kids adjust to big changes like this. I don't want him to be a problem and keep other kids awake, etc.
I'm really open to them doing for him what works best for their program, and I want to be able to help, but what's the best way? When I call during the day to find out how he is doing I talk to the office manager at the front desk, she can see him through her window and check on him for me, but I don't really know how to work with them to tackle potential problems like I did with my old DCP (who I am missing terribly right now!! LOL)
Any advice? I'm not sure sure what's appropraite in our new setting and trying to feel it out. Have any of you worked in centers like this before?
My 3 year old started at a child care center on Monday so today is only his 3rd day. The first day it took him 1hr 20min to fall asleep at nap time. He hasn't napped in over a year, so I knew moving him to a center that required 2 hours of rest time could be challenging. It didn't occur to me that he would be crying on his mat for that long. He told me his teacher came and rubbed his back and he fell asleep. On his report it stated that he had a great day but with difficulties at nap time.
Day 2 he did not nap at all according to his report, but it also didn't say anything in his report regarding his nap time. He tells me he didn't cry (but he also tells me that he took a nap that day....and he's also 3....so you really never know)
What I am trying to learn is when is an appropraite time to talk to his teacher? When I pick him up in the afternoon, his main teacher has gone home for the day and someone else gives me his report. I am working to encourage him to take a nap when the other kids do, I did my best to prep him for it, but I am not having the greatest understanding of how new kids adjust to big changes like this. I don't want him to be a problem and keep other kids awake, etc.
I'm really open to them doing for him what works best for their program, and I want to be able to help, but what's the best way? When I call during the day to find out how he is doing I talk to the office manager at the front desk, she can see him through her window and check on him for me, but I don't really know how to work with them to tackle potential problems like I did with my old DCP (who I am missing terribly right now!! LOL)
Any advice? I'm not sure sure what's appropraite in our new setting and trying to feel it out. Have any of you worked in centers like this before?
AmyKidsCo 11:47 AM 07-15-2015
I have never worked in a center, but it seems to me that the best way to communicate with his teacher might be to schedule a meeting with her. Or see if you can email her directly - some centers allow teachers to communicate directly with parents, others want all communication to go through the director.
If you're concerned about what happens during nap time and can get away from work you may want to stop by unannounced during nap time some day.
If you're concerned about what happens during nap time and can get away from work you may want to stop by unannounced during nap time some day.
happymom 12:47 PM 07-15-2015
Thanks!
Today I called and talked to the office manager and asked if she could keep an extra eye on him during nap time and that I'd call back mid-way through nap time and find out how he did.
I want to give him more time to settle in and for them to learn his quirks and personalities and everyone get a feel for each other. I'm sure there will be more opportunity for communication but so far it's been a lot less than I am used to.
I am very happy so far! Aside from nap time he's been doing great, he gets a good little report each day and I can tell by how dirty he is when he comes home that he's been playing hard and having fun. He came home with a big ol' skinned knee his first day!!! He was getting very little outdoor playing time previously and I'm so happy he's getting to run and play and he LOVES his "new school"!
Today I called and talked to the office manager and asked if she could keep an extra eye on him during nap time and that I'd call back mid-way through nap time and find out how he did.
I want to give him more time to settle in and for them to learn his quirks and personalities and everyone get a feel for each other. I'm sure there will be more opportunity for communication but so far it's been a lot less than I am used to.
I am very happy so far! Aside from nap time he's been doing great, he gets a good little report each day and I can tell by how dirty he is when he comes home that he's been playing hard and having fun. He came home with a big ol' skinned knee his first day!!! He was getting very little outdoor playing time previously and I'm so happy he's getting to run and play and he LOVES his "new school"!
daycare 01:54 PM 07-15-2015
not to sound harsh, but it's only been a couple of days. They say, whoever they are (lol) that it takes 21+ times to create a habit. So don't be surprised if next week he is still not napping.
At the age of 3, he should be getting at least 11-14 hours of sleep for every 24 hours.
I would not worry about it so much right now, just remind your child of his napping period and in a few weeks if he has still not adjusted, then maybe talk with the teachers.
BUT I love the fact that you are really trying to get your child on board with the new program. big thumbs up for that...wish I had more parents like you...
At the age of 3, he should be getting at least 11-14 hours of sleep for every 24 hours.
I would not worry about it so much right now, just remind your child of his napping period and in a few weeks if he has still not adjusted, then maybe talk with the teachers.
BUT I love the fact that you are really trying to get your child on board with the new program. big thumbs up for that...wish I had more parents like you...
happymom 03:18 PM 07-15-2015
I am being SO impateint, I know!
He's only gone to one other dcp in his life, and he grew up there so I knew how they did things, etc. This is all new, and he is so excited about it, but it's really hard to get information out of him: according to him he eats crackers and cookies for lunch, every day, at both places! Haha! Maybe that's what he WISHES he were eating
It's such a big learning experience for both of us, I remind him each morning that mat time is for sleeping, I'm really trying to encourage it (the extra sleep is MORE THAN welcome) His last DCP just did not have the patience for it so we decided it was not worth the fight every day. I think if everyone naps and they enforce that it's time to lay down.
I struggle because I want to know every aspect of every day and that's just not possible as a working mom. I know it, but I want to do my best while not being an overbearing crazy mom, hahaha!
He's only gone to one other dcp in his life, and he grew up there so I knew how they did things, etc. This is all new, and he is so excited about it, but it's really hard to get information out of him: according to him he eats crackers and cookies for lunch, every day, at both places! Haha! Maybe that's what he WISHES he were eating
It's such a big learning experience for both of us, I remind him each morning that mat time is for sleeping, I'm really trying to encourage it (the extra sleep is MORE THAN welcome) His last DCP just did not have the patience for it so we decided it was not worth the fight every day. I think if everyone naps and they enforce that it's time to lay down.
I struggle because I want to know every aspect of every day and that's just not possible as a working mom. I know it, but I want to do my best while not being an overbearing crazy mom, hahaha!
daycare 03:29 PM 07-15-2015
Originally Posted by happymom:
I am being SO impateint, I know!
He's only gone to one other dcp in his life, and he grew up there so I knew how they did things, etc. This is all new, and he is so excited about it, but it's really hard to get information out of him: according to him he eats crackers and cookies for lunch, every day, at both places! Haha! Maybe that's what he WISHES he were eating
It's such a big learning experience for both of us, I remind him each morning that mat time is for sleeping, I'm really trying to encourage it (the extra sleep is MORE THAN welcome) His last DCP just did not have the patience for it so we decided it was not worth the fight every day. I think if everyone naps and they enforce that it's time to lay down.
I struggle because I want to know every aspect of every day and that's just not possible as a working mom. I know it, but I want to do my best while not being an overbearing crazy mom, hahaha!
I hear you. I am sure it is hard not knowing what goes on every day. My understanding with most centers is that because the ratios are so much higher, you loose that open communication you had with your daycare provider. It's just not as intimate anymore.I am being SO impateint, I know!
He's only gone to one other dcp in his life, and he grew up there so I knew how they did things, etc. This is all new, and he is so excited about it, but it's really hard to get information out of him: according to him he eats crackers and cookies for lunch, every day, at both places! Haha! Maybe that's what he WISHES he were eating
It's such a big learning experience for both of us, I remind him each morning that mat time is for sleeping, I'm really trying to encourage it (the extra sleep is MORE THAN welcome) His last DCP just did not have the patience for it so we decided it was not worth the fight every day. I think if everyone naps and they enforce that it's time to lay down.
I struggle because I want to know every aspect of every day and that's just not possible as a working mom. I know it, but I want to do my best while not being an overbearing crazy mom, hahaha!
I have had parents leave me to go to centers and beg to come back and this was one of their biggest complaints.
No news is good news....hard to have to accept, but sometimes that is what it is.
I would maybe just ask the teachers what you can do to help him transition and then go from there. This will let them know that you are on board and want to help. Maybe even on weekends you can start having him lay down for the same time frame to help build the consistency faster, the more consistent his routine, the easier it will be for him to catch on.
racemom 11:44 AM 07-17-2015
Glad to hear things are working out for you! The most important part of daycare is to find somewhere you and your child are happy and he can thrive.
Thriftylady 12:17 PM 07-17-2015
Glad to hear it is working out. Sometimes these things just need a little time.
cheerfuldom 01:46 PM 07-17-2015
Sounds like a great update!
I think you have the realistic understanding that center moms will not get the feedback and hand holding that home daycare moms get. The staff and teachers at a center just dont have the time for that. But there are positives to the situation. The structure is providing your child with lots of outdoor time and with naps, things the previous provider gave up on from the sounds of it. You just have to remain positive about what is happening and give yourself and your son the time to adjust. No place will be perfect. It is so hard though because if you were at home, there would still be a lot of questions about you missing your career and all that stuff so no matter what way you slice it, moms have worries. Its just part of the deal. Hang in there!
I think you have the realistic understanding that center moms will not get the feedback and hand holding that home daycare moms get. The staff and teachers at a center just dont have the time for that. But there are positives to the situation. The structure is providing your child with lots of outdoor time and with naps, things the previous provider gave up on from the sounds of it. You just have to remain positive about what is happening and give yourself and your son the time to adjust. No place will be perfect. It is so hard though because if you were at home, there would still be a lot of questions about you missing your career and all that stuff so no matter what way you slice it, moms have worries. Its just part of the deal. Hang in there!
Unregistered 06:57 PM 07-17-2015
I used to work in a center and each teacher communicated differently with their parents since they had different start and end times to their day. Some teachers that opened and were not there at closing/pick up spoke to parents who had questions at drop off (there was always two staff in the room). If it couldn't be answered/resolved within 5 minutes then they would schedule a phone or in person conference at nap time. Some teachers had "communication journals" that went back and forth from home to school if there were concerns. And again could be followed up with a phone or in person conference at nap time. Parents were told they can call anytime to check how their child was doing. If they called and the teacher was able to speak to them, then they would. If the teacher was doing an activity at the time then the teacher would call back during nap time.
Don't be afraid to ask his teacher how he is adjusting or other questions you may have. Maybe at the end of each week ask how things went that week. Teachers really appreciate it when parents show interest in what is happening at school. This builds your relationship with the teacher and let's them know that you are approachable when there is a problem and when good things happen.
It usually takes about two weeks for new children to adjust to the busy routines and schedule of a big center. Be patient and give it time.
Don't be afraid to ask his teacher how he is adjusting or other questions you may have. Maybe at the end of each week ask how things went that week. Teachers really appreciate it when parents show interest in what is happening at school. This builds your relationship with the teacher and let's them know that you are approachable when there is a problem and when good things happen.
It usually takes about two weeks for new children to adjust to the busy routines and schedule of a big center. Be patient and give it time.
pandamom 07:26 PM 07-17-2015
That's great to hear about your son napping!! I work in a center although I'm a 2 year old caregiver.
I've had a few children come to my room that had not previously been in a center. Same sort of experience- not napping the first few weeks even though they tired. There is a lot going on at a center and for a child not used to it, it can overstimulate them to the point of not wanting to nap until it becomes more familiar to them.
Absolutely ask the front desk about scheduling a conference with the lead caregiver. It can be hard for a caregiver to talk in depth during drop off or pick up because they need to also keep an eye on the other children and be cautious of maintaining your privacy when there are other parents in the room.
In the preschool rooms here they have little workbooks for children who don't nap. My sons occasionally use them- sort of ou on workbooks for 3-5 year olds. Afree about 30-45 minutes the caregivers hand them out to the children still awake. The children know they must stay on their cot with the workbook during rest time.
I've had a few children come to my room that had not previously been in a center. Same sort of experience- not napping the first few weeks even though they tired. There is a lot going on at a center and for a child not used to it, it can overstimulate them to the point of not wanting to nap until it becomes more familiar to them.
Absolutely ask the front desk about scheduling a conference with the lead caregiver. It can be hard for a caregiver to talk in depth during drop off or pick up because they need to also keep an eye on the other children and be cautious of maintaining your privacy when there are other parents in the room.
In the preschool rooms here they have little workbooks for children who don't nap. My sons occasionally use them- sort of ou on workbooks for 3-5 year olds. Afree about 30-45 minutes the caregivers hand them out to the children still awake. The children know they must stay on their cot with the workbook during rest time.
racemom 04:16 PM 08-04-2015
It is hard when a favorite teacher leaves, but hopefully she is replaced by someone he learns to love as much. It helps when the some of the staff are consistent so it isn't all new people. I hope you and your son continue to enjoy your daycare experience!
Thriftylady 04:30 PM 08-04-2015
I hope it continues to work for you. I know how hard this can be.