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Unregistered 09:08 PM 07-24-2015
I've been looking at a couple potential new centers for my two children. After touring a bunch of daycares this week, I picked my top two favorite ones. I was having trouble deciding between the two so I pulled up their inspection records. Both of them have been in trouble recently for leaving a child inside a classroom when everyone else went outside! Is this common? How concerned should I be about this?
If it helps, here's the report said about one:
Based on Interview, on 5/1/15 a four-year-old child was left alone unsupervised in a the KA classroom for approximately fifteen (15) to twenty (20) minutes. In an interview with staff it was found that the two (2) teachers in the KA room took their group of children outside at approximately 3:00 p.m. A staff person that was walking down the hall saw the child in the classroom with the lights out and the child was crying. The staff person asked the child what happened and the child replied, "They left me". The staff person stated that she found the child at approximately 3:15 p.m. and returned the child to her group on the playground.
Here's the other one:
Based on Review of Documentation, the facility failed to meet this regulatory requirement. On 6/12/15 an administrative staff person reported that a two (2) year old child
was left alone/unsupervised in the classroom when the child's group went out to the playground. On 6/16/15 a DRCC surveyor, a DCBS worker and two (2) administrative staff
members watched video footage from the facility's surveillance system of the 6/12/15 incident. A review of the video footage found that two (2) staff (hire dates: 8/14/14 and 5/26/15) were observed working in Suite 350 with the children when the incident occurred. At 9:55AM the child was observed playing in the dramatic play area and he laid down flat on a wooden bench seat in this play area. At 9:57AM the two (2) staff lined the children up by the back door (door leading to the playground). One (1) staff person was observed on the video using a hand motion similar to counting children and then the group exited out the back door. It is important to note that due to the height and position of the bench, the child could not been seen from the video camera angle in the back of the room and could not been seen from where the staff were standing (at the back door) while they were lining up the children to go outside. At 10:02:40AM a staff person walked into Suite 350 and found the child in the room alone. The staff person escorted the child outside to the playground via the back door to re-unite him with his group. The two (2) staff were not aware that the child was missing. The child was left alone/unsupervised in Suite 350 approximatley five (5) minutes (9:57AM - 10:02AM). One (1) staff person was terminated as a result of the incident and two (2) other staff received reprimands.
If it helps, here's the report said about one:
Based on Interview, on 5/1/15 a four-year-old child was left alone unsupervised in a the KA classroom for approximately fifteen (15) to twenty (20) minutes. In an interview with staff it was found that the two (2) teachers in the KA room took their group of children outside at approximately 3:00 p.m. A staff person that was walking down the hall saw the child in the classroom with the lights out and the child was crying. The staff person asked the child what happened and the child replied, "They left me". The staff person stated that she found the child at approximately 3:15 p.m. and returned the child to her group on the playground.
Here's the other one:
Based on Review of Documentation, the facility failed to meet this regulatory requirement. On 6/12/15 an administrative staff person reported that a two (2) year old child
was left alone/unsupervised in the classroom when the child's group went out to the playground. On 6/16/15 a DRCC surveyor, a DCBS worker and two (2) administrative staff
members watched video footage from the facility's surveillance system of the 6/12/15 incident. A review of the video footage found that two (2) staff (hire dates: 8/14/14 and 5/26/15) were observed working in Suite 350 with the children when the incident occurred. At 9:55AM the child was observed playing in the dramatic play area and he laid down flat on a wooden bench seat in this play area. At 9:57AM the two (2) staff lined the children up by the back door (door leading to the playground). One (1) staff person was observed on the video using a hand motion similar to counting children and then the group exited out the back door. It is important to note that due to the height and position of the bench, the child could not been seen from the video camera angle in the back of the room and could not been seen from where the staff were standing (at the back door) while they were lining up the children to go outside. At 10:02:40AM a staff person walked into Suite 350 and found the child in the room alone. The staff person escorted the child outside to the playground via the back door to re-unite him with his group. The two (2) staff were not aware that the child was missing. The child was left alone/unsupervised in Suite 350 approximatley five (5) minutes (9:57AM - 10:02AM). One (1) staff person was terminated as a result of the incident and two (2) other staff received reprimands.
Blackcat31 07:42 AM 07-25-2015
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
I've been looking at a couple potential new centers for my two children. After touring a bunch of daycares this week, I picked my top two favorite ones. I was having trouble deciding between the two so I pulled up their inspection records. Both of them have been in trouble recently for leaving a child inside a classroom when everyone else went outside! Is this common? How concerned should I be about this?
If it helps, here's the report said about one:
Based on Interview, on 5/1/15 a four-year-old child was left alone unsupervised in a the KA classroom for approximately fifteen (15) to twenty (20) minutes. In an interview with staff it was found that the two (2) teachers in the KA room took their group of children outside at approximately 3:00 p.m. A staff person that was walking down the hall saw the child in the classroom with the lights out and the child was crying. The staff person asked the child what happened and the child replied, "They left me". The staff person stated that she found the child at approximately 3:15 p.m. and returned the child to her group on the playground.
Here's the other one:
Based on Review of Documentation, the facility failed to meet this regulatory requirement. On 6/12/15 an administrative staff person reported that a two (2) year old child
was left alone/unsupervised in the classroom when the child's group went out to the playground. On 6/16/15 a DRCC surveyor, a DCBS worker and two (2) administrative staff
members watched video footage from the facility's surveillance system of the 6/12/15 incident. A review of the video footage found that two (2) staff (hire dates: 8/14/14 and 5/26/15) were observed working in Suite 350 with the children when the incident occurred. At 9:55AM the child was observed playing in the dramatic play area and he laid down flat on a wooden bench seat in this play area. At 9:57AM the two (2) staff lined the children up by the back door (door leading to the playground). One (1) staff person was observed on the video using a hand motion similar to counting children and then the group exited out the back door. It is important to note that due to the height and position of the bench, the child could not been seen from the video camera angle in the back of the room and could not been seen from where the staff were standing (at the back door) while they were lining up the children to go outside. At 10:02:40AM a staff person walked into Suite 350 and found the child in the room alone. The staff person escorted the child outside to the playground via the back door to re-unite him with his group. The two (2) staff were not aware that the child was missing. The child was left alone/unsupervised in Suite 350 approximatley five (5) minutes (9:57AM - 10:02AM). One (1) staff person was terminated as a result of the incident and two (2) other staff received reprimands.
I do not believe ots common but apparently it is in your area. I've been looking at a couple potential new centers for my two children. After touring a bunch of daycares this week, I picked my top two favorite ones. I was having trouble deciding between the two so I pulled up their inspection records. Both of them have been in trouble recently for leaving a child inside a classroom when everyone else went outside! Is this common? How concerned should I be about this?
If it helps, here's the report said about one:
Based on Interview, on 5/1/15 a four-year-old child was left alone unsupervised in a the KA classroom for approximately fifteen (15) to twenty (20) minutes. In an interview with staff it was found that the two (2) teachers in the KA room took their group of children outside at approximately 3:00 p.m. A staff person that was walking down the hall saw the child in the classroom with the lights out and the child was crying. The staff person asked the child what happened and the child replied, "They left me". The staff person stated that she found the child at approximately 3:15 p.m. and returned the child to her group on the playground.
Here's the other one:
Based on Review of Documentation, the facility failed to meet this regulatory requirement. On 6/12/15 an administrative staff person reported that a two (2) year old child
was left alone/unsupervised in the classroom when the child's group went out to the playground. On 6/16/15 a DRCC surveyor, a DCBS worker and two (2) administrative staff
members watched video footage from the facility's surveillance system of the 6/12/15 incident. A review of the video footage found that two (2) staff (hire dates: 8/14/14 and 5/26/15) were observed working in Suite 350 with the children when the incident occurred. At 9:55AM the child was observed playing in the dramatic play area and he laid down flat on a wooden bench seat in this play area. At 9:57AM the two (2) staff lined the children up by the back door (door leading to the playground). One (1) staff person was observed on the video using a hand motion similar to counting children and then the group exited out the back door. It is important to note that due to the height and position of the bench, the child could not been seen from the video camera angle in the back of the room and could not been seen from where the staff were standing (at the back door) while they were lining up the children to go outside. At 10:02:40AM a staff person walked into Suite 350 and found the child in the room alone. The staff person escorted the child outside to the playground via the back door to re-unite him with his group. The two (2) staff were not aware that the child was missing. The child was left alone/unsupervised in Suite 350 approximatley five (5) minutes (9:57AM - 10:02AM). One (1) staff person was terminated as a result of the incident and two (2) other staff received reprimands.
As a parent, YES, that would concern me. ALOT!
If a child is easily forgotten inside, they could easily be forgotten outside or in a vehicle.
Or forgotten all together.
I'd continue looking.
Heidi 08:49 AM 07-25-2015
It happened to my son 23 years ago at a very good Montessori School. They actually left him outside, and I'm not sure how long...anywhere from 3-15 minutes, depending on who you asked (he was 3). I actually remember them giving me the attitude that it was his own fault for not listening. I've never had it happen, but one of my friends has (no longer in daycare, but not for that reason).
I wonder if they self-reported to licensing?
I wonder if they self-reported to licensing?
Febby 02:30 PM 07-25-2015
Originally Posted by Heidi:
I wonder if they self-reported to licensing?
The second one sounds like they may have ("an administrative staff person reported"). I'm not sure about the first one; it didn't give as much information.I wonder if they self-reported to licensing?
I don't know where these centers are, but, in my state, you are supposed to self-report those kinds of incidents to licensing and CPS. If you don't, and you get caught, the penalties are a lot higher. The penalties are also higher if you don't take measure to ensure it doesn't happen again (for example, firing the staff responsible for the incident). I would assume a lot of states have a similar policy?
Obviously this sort of thing is concerning; however, I've seen/heard about this happening at a lot of centers and a few home daycares where I am. There's a story all the trainers use now about a home daycare provider who took five (!!!!) kids to the park, returned with only four, and didn't notice one was missing until the police showed about two HOURS later. Another center in my area recently got in trouble for leaving all their children on the bus. Supposedly, their bus driver thought all the kids were off, but they were all still on...???
spedmommy4 10:28 PM 07-25-2015
This happened to my son at a center when he was two. I was a young mom and didn't pull him from the center. I later pulled him when I learned that wasn't the only thing going on. I discovered my son had been forgotten because the director was regularly leaving the teacher with far more kids than she was legally allowed to care for. At that point, I pulled him. I always tell parents to check licensing records and if something looks concerning, move on. Your child it too important.
Unregistered 03:50 AM 07-26-2015
This wasn't at a daycare, but we just had an incident at a resort in Mexico. It was our first time visiting a resort that had a kids club (we are usually on the go people). We chose to travel to this one, because I had just miscarried spontaneous triplets and my husband and I wanted to have a bit of decompressing/relaxation time (I provide care for children and he is always working). We dropped my newly turned 5 year old off in the morning. They had a line up of different activities and one of them being the splash pad (which was right next to the pool, with no lifeguard). I knew that we were going to check on him after awhile, which is a good thing we did..... We found him still at the splash pad unsupervised, on the verge of tears. He told us he couldn't find anyone and he had to go to the bathroom so badly, he was just about to go in the water, because he didn't know what else to do..... He would have been alone for over an hour (according to the schedule line up). We found the three childcare supervisors (with only three other children) at the restaurant that they take the kids to. They had no idea that he was left behind...... Thank goodness my son stayed put. What if he wondered down to the public beach or went into the pool? I can't even think about me going to the kids club first and finding out he wasn't there..... :-/
Like my husband and I said...."How could this happen"? Don't they do a head count? And what is the protocol on moving from one activity to the other? Supposedly, they have changed their policy and the kids now wear wrist bands.....
We are very understanding people and know accidents can happen, but we were totally shocked with this situation......
Like my husband and I said...."How could this happen"? Don't they do a head count? And what is the protocol on moving from one activity to the other? Supposedly, they have changed their policy and the kids now wear wrist bands.....
We are very understanding people and know accidents can happen, but we were totally shocked with this situation......
Play Care 06:03 AM 07-26-2015
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
This wasn't at a daycare, but we just had an incident at a resort in Mexico. It was our first time visiting a resort that had a kids club (we are usually on the go people). We chose to travel to this one, because I had just miscarried spontaneous triplets and my husband and I wanted to have a bit of decompressing/relaxation time (I provide care for children and he is always working). We dropped my newly turned 5 year old off in the morning. They had a line up of different activities and one of them being the splash pad (which was right next to the pool, with no lifeguard). I knew that we were going to check on him after awhile, which is a good thing we did..... We found him still at the splash pad unsupervised, on the verge of tears. He told us he couldn't find anyone and he had to go to the bathroom so badly, he was just about to go in the water, because he didn't know what else to do..... He would have been alone for over an hour (according to the schedule line up). We found the three childcare supervisors (with only three other children) at the restaurant that they take the kids to. They had no idea that he was left behind...... Thank goodness my son stayed put. What if he wondered down to the public beach or went into the pool? I can't even think about me going to the kids club first and finding out he wasn't there..... :-/
Like my husband and I said...."How could this happen"? Don't they do a head count? And what is the protocol on moving from one activity to the other? Supposedly, they have changed their policy and the kids now wear wrist bands.....
We are very understanding people and know accidents can happen, but we were totally shocked with this situation......
I am sorry for your loss and experienceThis wasn't at a daycare, but we just had an incident at a resort in Mexico. It was our first time visiting a resort that had a kids club (we are usually on the go people). We chose to travel to this one, because I had just miscarried spontaneous triplets and my husband and I wanted to have a bit of decompressing/relaxation time (I provide care for children and he is always working). We dropped my newly turned 5 year old off in the morning. They had a line up of different activities and one of them being the splash pad (which was right next to the pool, with no lifeguard). I knew that we were going to check on him after awhile, which is a good thing we did..... We found him still at the splash pad unsupervised, on the verge of tears. He told us he couldn't find anyone and he had to go to the bathroom so badly, he was just about to go in the water, because he didn't know what else to do..... He would have been alone for over an hour (according to the schedule line up). We found the three childcare supervisors (with only three other children) at the restaurant that they take the kids to. They had no idea that he was left behind...... Thank goodness my son stayed put. What if he wondered down to the public beach or went into the pool? I can't even think about me going to the kids club first and finding out he wasn't there..... :-/
Like my husband and I said...."How could this happen"? Don't they do a head count? And what is the protocol on moving from one activity to the other? Supposedly, they have changed their policy and the kids now wear wrist bands.....
We are very understanding people and know accidents can happen, but we were totally shocked with this situation......
Rant ahead
I will never use those Kids Clubs again - we had a bad experience in Cape Cod with one, though thankfully they were running the club steps away from the pool where we were so I could see how terrible it was up close and center
I walked over and pulled my kids right then.
We were planning a family cruise and I got annoyed because I was looking for family activities and it seems most families take them (cruises) because of the kids clubs.
I was treated as odd because I didn't want to use the kid club at all. I feel as though they are typically staffed by underpaid and uninterested employees - at cruises and resorts it seems like the employee who draws the short straw gets the "kid duty" - and unlike with day care you don't get to interview or review records. If I need a kid free vacation I'll leave my kids with family where I know they'll be safe and have fun.
End rant
kitykids3 11:30 AM 07-27-2015
There is no way I would consider that 'common' or appropriate. For a couple years, back some years ago, we had a rash of daycare kids being left on buses on the Northside of our city. Because of that, everyone who has a 7 passenger vehicle or more (even tho you can only fit 5 kids in the minivan) has to have a special $300 daycare alarm so we don't forget any kids in our vehicles.
Sorry, but if you 'forget' one of your kids inside, or outside, or anywhere, then you should not be doing this job and possibly putting kids at risk. What happens if they are on a field trip and 'forget' one or two.
Sorry, but this just makes me so upset. Those people should not be in charge of taking care of kids.
Personally, I will only leave a child inside while I take the other kids outside, if it is an infant having their nap (which happens to be during our outside time) then I will let them sleep inside and of course I obviously have the baby monitor for them. Otherwise, no, no awake children inside by themselves. If they have to go in to go potty (which is right near my back door) then I stand at the door to see everyone outside and inside.
Personally OP, I wouldn't consider either of those daycares or at least see if you can get more info from director about the situations. The first situation is quite ridiculous (15-20 min) and child was in dark crying? Doesn't say what the plan was either to prevent that in the future.
The second one, I don't care if the bench the child was laying on was out of sight. You do a head count before you go out and you check every spot of classroom if you are short a kid before you go out. Doesn't sound like they have proper procedure going on either to prevent losing a kid.
I would be scared that those 'accidents' would happen, especially on a field trip, and something would happen to my kid. Especially since they were both recent, not like they happened years ago.
Sorry, but if you 'forget' one of your kids inside, or outside, or anywhere, then you should not be doing this job and possibly putting kids at risk. What happens if they are on a field trip and 'forget' one or two.
Sorry, but this just makes me so upset. Those people should not be in charge of taking care of kids.Personally, I will only leave a child inside while I take the other kids outside, if it is an infant having their nap (which happens to be during our outside time) then I will let them sleep inside and of course I obviously have the baby monitor for them. Otherwise, no, no awake children inside by themselves. If they have to go in to go potty (which is right near my back door) then I stand at the door to see everyone outside and inside.
Personally OP, I wouldn't consider either of those daycares or at least see if you can get more info from director about the situations. The first situation is quite ridiculous (15-20 min) and child was in dark crying? Doesn't say what the plan was either to prevent that in the future.
The second one, I don't care if the bench the child was laying on was out of sight. You do a head count before you go out and you check every spot of classroom if you are short a kid before you go out. Doesn't sound like they have proper procedure going on either to prevent losing a kid.
I would be scared that those 'accidents' would happen, especially on a field trip, and something would happen to my kid. Especially since they were both recent, not like they happened years ago.
Heidi 12:47 PM 07-27-2015
Originally Posted by kitykids3:
There is no way I would consider that 'common' or appropriate. For a couple years, back some years ago, we had a rash of daycare kids being left on buses on the Northside of our city. Because of that, everyone who has a 7 passenger vehicle or more (even tho you can only fit 5 kids in the minivan) has to have a special $300 daycare alarm so we don't forget any kids in our vehicles.
Sorry, but if you 'forget' one of your kids inside, or outside, or anywhere, then you should not be doing this job and possibly putting kids at risk. What happens if they are on a field trip and 'forget' one or two. Sorry, but this just makes me so upset. Those people should not be in charge of taking care of kids.
Personally, I will only leave a child inside while I take the other kids outside, if it is an infant having their nap (which happens to be during our outside time) then I will let them sleep inside and of course I obviously have the baby monitor for them. Otherwise, no, no awake children inside by themselves. If they have to go in to go potty (which is right near my back door) then I stand at the door to see everyone outside and inside.
Personally OP, I wouldn't consider either of those daycares or at least see if you can get more info from director about the situations. The first situation is quite ridiculous (15-20 min) and child was in dark crying? Doesn't say what the plan was either to prevent that in the future.
The second one, I don't care if the bench the child was laying on was out of sight. You do a head count before you go out and you check every spot of classroom if you are short a kid before you go out. Doesn't sound like they have proper procedure going on either to prevent losing a kid.
I would be scared that those 'accidents' would happen, especially on a field trip, and something would happen to my kid. Especially since they were both recent, not like they happened years ago.
Yes...and on school buses, they only have to walk to the back and put a sign in the window. There is no way I would consider that 'common' or appropriate. For a couple years, back some years ago, we had a rash of daycare kids being left on buses on the Northside of our city. Because of that, everyone who has a 7 passenger vehicle or more (even tho you can only fit 5 kids in the minivan) has to have a special $300 daycare alarm so we don't forget any kids in our vehicles.
Sorry, but if you 'forget' one of your kids inside, or outside, or anywhere, then you should not be doing this job and possibly putting kids at risk. What happens if they are on a field trip and 'forget' one or two.
Sorry, but this just makes me so upset. Those people should not be in charge of taking care of kids.Personally, I will only leave a child inside while I take the other kids outside, if it is an infant having their nap (which happens to be during our outside time) then I will let them sleep inside and of course I obviously have the baby monitor for them. Otherwise, no, no awake children inside by themselves. If they have to go in to go potty (which is right near my back door) then I stand at the door to see everyone outside and inside.
Personally OP, I wouldn't consider either of those daycares or at least see if you can get more info from director about the situations. The first situation is quite ridiculous (15-20 min) and child was in dark crying? Doesn't say what the plan was either to prevent that in the future.
The second one, I don't care if the bench the child was laying on was out of sight. You do a head count before you go out and you check every spot of classroom if you are short a kid before you go out. Doesn't sound like they have proper procedure going on either to prevent losing a kid.
I would be scared that those 'accidents' would happen, especially on a field trip, and something would happen to my kid. Especially since they were both recent, not like they happened years ago.
Heidi 12:55 PM 07-27-2015
We were actually just teasing an old friend of mine about this.. We can laugh about it now, years later.
Years ago (like 20), we had 3 family daycare providers in the neighborhood, and between us, there were about 24-28 kids or so (including our own that didn't count anymore).
We'd go on neighborhood walks together. On one particular morning, we gathered at my friend's house, and started walking towards my sister's (next house...around the corner). My sister gets all her kids situated in strollers, and look's at mine, then at friend's. She says "Hey, C*, where's so-and-so?"
I have never seen a grown woman move so fast! Her face turned sheet white and she just took off. He was still sitting on the shoe bench...in her house
Those were the days before self-reporting was fashionable. We moved on, but my friend still hasn't lived it down. She hasn't done daycare in years, and we all live in different city's. She was at our house warming party this last weekend, as was my sister, who of course had to bring it up.
We can laugh about it now, years later. Years ago (like 20), we had 3 family daycare providers in the neighborhood, and between us, there were about 24-28 kids or so (including our own that didn't count anymore).
We'd go on neighborhood walks together. On one particular morning, we gathered at my friend's house, and started walking towards my sister's (next house...around the corner). My sister gets all her kids situated in strollers, and look's at mine, then at friend's. She says "Hey, C*, where's so-and-so?"
I have never seen a grown woman move so fast! Her face turned sheet white and she just took off. He was still sitting on the shoe bench...in her house
Those were the days before self-reporting was fashionable. We moved on, but my friend still hasn't lived it down. She hasn't done daycare in years, and we all live in different city's. She was at our house warming party this last weekend, as was my sister, who of course had to bring it up.
daycarediva 05:23 PM 07-27-2015
I would be continuing my search after those reports, regardless of situation or outcome. It is ALWAYS due to negligence that these types of situations happen. As a child care provider, I am CONSTANTLY doing head counts. I do them when we walk from my 3-season room to my fully fenced backyard. I do them repeatedly outside, I do them when we walk back in and get into the 3 season room, I do them indoors. When we are out of program, I am even more vigilant.
Febby 07:50 PM 07-27-2015
I do name to face counts when going in or out of the building, so I won't leave one unless another staff member failed to sign someone in and they happened to be the one who didn't line up and I didn't catch it when I came into the room (I check my list whenever I enter a classroom). Which is unlikely, but not completely impossible. And the possibility of that terrifies me.
I was actually at a center once that lost a child. The staff at fault were fired and the rest of us had to sit through a two hour training session on supervision.
Out of curiosity, I pulled up recent reports from 6 large (100+ capacity) centers in my city. In the last three months, three have left children somewhere at least once (inside, outside, on a bus), two have given the wrong bottle to an infant, and one has had an employee abuse a child. Two didn't have any major violations recently, but they were part of a chain and the other location did.
Of the six 4 star (highest rating my state's QRIS) centers, none of the centers had gotten any violations this year. Capacities range from 12 to 300. Of course, I'm sure it's much harder to lose children when you are using NAEYC ratios instead of state ratios.
I was actually at a center once that lost a child. The staff at fault were fired and the rest of us had to sit through a two hour training session on supervision.
Out of curiosity, I pulled up recent reports from 6 large (100+ capacity) centers in my city. In the last three months, three have left children somewhere at least once (inside, outside, on a bus), two have given the wrong bottle to an infant, and one has had an employee abuse a child. Two didn't have any major violations recently, but they were part of a chain and the other location did.
Of the six 4 star (highest rating my state's QRIS) centers, none of the centers had gotten any violations this year. Capacities range from 12 to 300. Of course, I'm sure it's much harder to lose children when you are using NAEYC ratios instead of state ratios.
kendallina 10:31 AM 07-28-2015
In the second report, it indicated that one staff member was fired and two were reprimanded. That is the appropriate response. No, it's not common or okay for this to happen in a childcare setting, but it does happen. No idea if the first place had a similar response, unfortunately there's just not a lot of information there.
I used to work for a large corporate center and it happened to one staff member (the child was a toddler and he was a runner, he was kind of a tough kid to work with), but when he got out, the staff member was fired immediately. You better believe that the rest of the staff was on HIGH ALERT after this incident. We didn't go 10 minutes even in the room without counting our kids.
Have you considered a smaller setting, like home daycare? Or you could call the director at each center and ask about each incident, how they discuss this issue might be all the information you need.
Finally, I give each of these centers props for reporting it to their licensing center. Not all centers would even though they are supposed to. I'd wager to say that each of these centers is doing a lot of things right if they voluntarily report this information.
I used to work for a large corporate center and it happened to one staff member (the child was a toddler and he was a runner, he was kind of a tough kid to work with), but when he got out, the staff member was fired immediately. You better believe that the rest of the staff was on HIGH ALERT after this incident. We didn't go 10 minutes even in the room without counting our kids.
Have you considered a smaller setting, like home daycare? Or you could call the director at each center and ask about each incident, how they discuss this issue might be all the information you need.
Finally, I give each of these centers props for reporting it to their licensing center. Not all centers would even though they are supposed to. I'd wager to say that each of these centers is doing a lot of things right if they voluntarily report this information.