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Candy 06:24 PM 10-27-2013
I hate SpongeBob, I walked by the other day and he said "lets touch hard things softly". WTF is that about. No way my kids would be watching that.
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MrsSteinel'sHouse 06:28 PM 10-27-2013
Nope. I find sponge bob rude. My littles don't watch TV here at all.
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SSWonders 06:37 PM 10-27-2013
On the rare occasion that the tv is one in dc, it might be right before lunch if they are particularly rambunctious and I need them to settle down, educational tv only, or a special holiday movie. I love those myself.
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craftymissbeth 06:49 PM 10-27-2013
I personally love spongebob... but I don't let the kids watch it. That show has a LOT of innuendos and some downright inappropriate content. But I love to watch it myself every once in awhile for some mind numbing entertainment
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Unregistered 06:50 PM 10-27-2013
I strongly dislike spongebob! My children have never watched it and I won't show it here. There was a "study" done awhile ago about the effects of spongebob and other fasted paced shows on young children.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/lo...129641993.html

It's pretty interesting.
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Josiegirl 03:29 AM 10-28-2013
Another one I detest is Rugrats. Nope, have never allowed tv like that here. The kids do watch Wiggles, Dora, Barney, but even then it's rarely. They're little. There's so much more for them to be doing here. I'm almost anti-tv anyways. It's a very passive activity, except they do love dancing to the Wiggles.
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coolconfidentme 03:53 AM 10-28-2013
We don't have a TV in our daycare.
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Scout 04:04 AM 10-28-2013
My own kids watch it, I don't find anything wrong with it, Now Family Guy is another story!
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Cradle2crayons 05:20 AM 10-28-2013
The rare tv time my kids get is selected from the roku. Usually something like leap pad alphabet etc. sometimes Dora.

I don't mind watching spongebob and my own kids watch it sometimes.
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momofboys 06:12 AM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by craftymissbeth:
I personally love spongebob... but I don't let the kids watch it. That show has a LOT of innuendos and some downright inappropriate content. But I love to watch it myself every once in awhile for some mind numbing entertainment
hehe! Me too! My daycare kids don't watch but I have older kids (12 & 10) of my own that watch sometimes outside of daycare hours. It is funny!
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Willow 06:43 AM 10-28-2013
I loathe Spongebob, and the study proving how detrimental it specifically is to the health and well being of kids solidified that gut feeling for me.

PBS is all I will have on on occassion during daycare, and my kids prefer documentary/real life type stuff. They rarely watch any cartoon type shows aside from the occassional Disney/Pixar movie.
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countrymom 06:55 AM 10-28-2013
Noooooo---they did a study on kids who watch alot of spongebob start to talk like him (not sentences) but imatating his voice and the way he pronounces words. Well, my niece who my sister would let her watch all the spongebob in the word now has to go for speech.
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KDC 07:31 AM 10-28-2013
Nope...not here. I have a kid music that's on a lot throughout the day and the spongebob theme song is on the playlist. It's funny how it takes awhile for the new kids to stop what they're doing and look for the TV to be on.

I allow Disney JR. or PBS/Sprout shows. I have a 3 yr. old that calls them 'baby' shows (he's into the TMNT and Star wars/super heroes). It's only on for drop-off's for about 1 hr. There may be a 1/2 hour show if they are good throughout the day and after picking up all the toys before departure (maybe 1x a week). They would just rather play with each other.
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Candy 08:08 AM 10-28-2013
I do rugrats the only episode i would cut is the one where there is cursing. You cant here it but kids always ask what did she say.
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Blackcat31 08:09 AM 10-28-2013
NO TV here either.

What kids watch at home is up to the parents.

It's not my job to monitor/censor or filter their program choices.
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permanentvacation 09:41 AM 10-28-2013
Nope, no SpongeBob at all! My kids almost never watch tv. On the slim occasion that they watch a show, it's an educational show like Barney or Sesame Street. I also have the Leap Frog videos. When I get a new child who does not know their letters/phonics, I do use that as part of the curriculum to teach them. But once the new child learns the letters/phonics, I stop using the video.
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Scout 10:11 AM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
I strongly dislike spongebob! My children have never watched it and I won't show it here. There was a "study" done awhile ago about the effects of spongebob and other fasted paced shows on young children.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/lo...129641993.html

It's pretty interesting.
This link cracked me up. A group of 60 kids hardly makes a study!! I see why you have it in quotes. If they wanted a true study to be done there should have been at least hundreds of kids and they should have tested them before and after watching it. Any tv can be bad for kids, Spongebob at least treats other sea creatures kindly and shows that it is ok to be sensitive to certain things.
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Cradle2crayons 10:17 AM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
This link cracked me up. A group of 60 kids hardly makes a study!! I see why you have it in quotes. If they wanted a true study to be done there should have been at least hundreds of kids and they should have tested them before and after watching it. Any tv can be bad for kids, Spongebob at least treats other sea creatures kindly and shows that it is ok to be sensitive to certain things.
I absolutely agree... I always say... Everything in moderation....
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My3cents 10:23 AM 10-28-2013
I don't like SB at all! I never have. The tune is catchy but that is about it.

I don't like Cartoons~

I find Disney movies these days to be rude and full of stuff geared towards an adult. Anything to sell sell sell.

I don't watch TV during the day. I use my TV for music. Once in a great great long time while I might put Sesame Street on. We go months with no TV here. My kids get it enough at home.
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daycare 10:33 AM 10-28-2013
Yes I let my own kids watch it. NOT DCK

All 3 of my kids have grown up on it..

My youngest who is 6 watches it all the time, he will often tell me MOM, SP did this and that is really bad, I will never do that.

I am happy that all of my kids are able to identify between right and wrong.

BTW all 3 of my kids have outstanding behavior.. My oldest just one a state award last year for role model of the year................
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GrannyJ 10:43 AM 10-28-2013
Some mornings I have the tv on the disney channel. I have a couple of kids who come early and they like to watch a little tv until the other kids get here. Other wise the tv is only used for music and on special occasions a movie. Sometimes on rainy or real hot days we use the tv for the Wii to get some of the wiggles out! Other wise it is off.

I do not like SpongeBob! I have a 3yo dcg that is obsessed with it.
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Willow 11:01 AM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
I absolutely agree... I always say... Everything in moderation....
Meh......

Europeans will argue alcohol for minors is fine in moderation. In other countries so is cigarette/cigar smoking, sexual intercourse, drug use and violence towards themselves and others.

Does that mean we should allowour children here to dabble in all that too?

I would argue that spongebob offers children nothing so what the heck is the point? If there are better options I disagree that it's a reasonable choice even in moderation....but to each their own as always. I just don't buy the "in moderation bit" in this situation, personally.
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craftymissbeth 11:17 AM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Meh......

Europeans will argue alcohol for minors is fine in moderation. In other countries so is cigarette/cigar smoking, sexual intercourse, drug use and violence towards themselves and others.

Does that mean we should allowour children here to dabble in all that too?

I would argue that spongebob offers children nothing so what the heck is the point? If there are better options I disagree that it's a reasonable choice even in moderation....but to each their own as always. I just don't buy the "in moderation bit" in this situation, personally.
Watching SB is not comparable to your examples above.

The "in moderation" refers to allowing our children to watch a mindless, non-educational television show. I don't see the problem with an episode every on e in awhile, but sitting there for great lengths of time numbly staring at the tv is obviously unhealthy. Every single "activity" we allow our children to engage in does not have to serve a purpose or build their brain or teach them anything. It's ok IMO to let them space out and watch a stupid show.

My dcks don't watch any tv here at all because I'm sure they get plenty at home, but my 6 yo is allowed to watch an episode or two of whatever garbage cartoon h finds on netflix so he can decompress after a day of filling his big head full of new things at school.

(Not arguing, just don't understand your examples of moderation in regards to the topic)
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LK5kids 11:31 AM 10-28-2013
No, no, no... So rude, and the touch hard things????? Do not know what to say about that. Have never liked SBob!
I do allow tv tho. Disney for 1/2 hour 7:30-8:00 and maybe 15 min. Before lunch. I must be the only one that allows a little tv!!
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EntropyControlSpecialist 11:49 AM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by coolconfidentme:
We don't have a TV in our daycare.
Yep.
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Willow 11:51 AM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by craftymissbeth:
Watching SB is not comparable to your examples above.

The "in moderation" refers to allowing our children to watch a mindless, non-educational television show. I don't see the problem with an episode every on e in awhile, but sitting there for great lengths of time numbly staring at the tv is obviously unhealthy. Every single "activity" we allow our children to engage in does not have to serve a purpose or build their brain or teach them anything. It's ok IMO to let them space out and watch a stupid show.

My dcks don't watch any tv here at all because I'm sure they get plenty at home, but my 6 yo is allowed to watch an episode or two of whatever garbage cartoon h finds on netflix so he can decompress after a day of filling his big head full of new things at school.

(Not arguing, just don't understand your examples of moderation in regards to the topic)
I disagree.

I think all are detrimental and comparing them "in moderation" makes perfect sense.

You don't have to agree of course, but there is no difference to me.
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Willow 11:53 AM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by LK5kids:
No, no, no... So rude, and the touch hard things????? Do not know what to say about that.
How about the fact that they live in "bikini bottom?"

Freaking gross.
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CedarCreek 11:53 AM 10-28-2013
I don't let my own kids or the dcks watch spongebob.

My older son does get to watch things in his room that my youngest does not though. Like goosebumps. He is obsessed.

I however really like adventure time
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CedarCreek 11:54 AM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
How about the fact that they live in "bikini bottom?"

Freaking gross.
The Krusty Krab is in Bikini Bottom.

Ew.
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LK5kids 11:57 AM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by CedarCreek:
The Krusty Krab is in Bikini Bottom.

Ew.
Okay, I haven't seen SBob in years..sounds like it has sunk to a new low! I will have to watch a few minutes by myself sometime!
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daycare 12:00 PM 10-28-2013
I think you guys are reading way too much into it....I have seen all kinds of movies lately that have adult innuendos in them purposely so that adults can enjoy them too.

I watch it with my 6 year old and he has NO clue what any of that stuff means, he is a stellar little man with excellent behavior.

I think it has made him a strong decision maker, knowing that when he sees SP or PS do something bad he can identify it quickly and will say, that was wrong. I know in my heart of hearts that if I put my child in a room full of children who were making bad choices, that my child would not join in. He would either tell on them or he would walk away.


BUT not all children can do this. If my son was repeating any of what he was seeing on that show that was bad, I would NOT be letting him watch it....

but to each there own...

and I do agree that everything is fine in moderation as long as it it not something that is hurtful.....
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CedarCreek 12:05 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
I think you guys are reading way too much into it....I have seen all kinds of movies lately that have adult innuendos in them purposely so that adults can enjoy them too.

I watch it with my 6 year old and he has NO clue what any of that stuff means, he is a stellar little man with excellent behavior.

I think it has made him a strong decision maker, knowing that when he sees SP or PS do something bad he can identify it quickly and will say, that was wrong. I know in my heart of hearts that if I put my child in a room full of children who were making bad choices, that my child would not join in. He would either tell on them or he would walk away.


BUT not all children can do this. If my son was repeating any of what he was seeing on that show that was bad, I would NOT be letting him watch it....

but to each there own...

and I do agree that everything is fine in moderation as long as it it not something that is hurtful.....
I don't think I'm reading too much into what the creators chose to name the town they live in and the restaurant SB works in. Those are facts.

I also don't think whether or not my child would participate in bad group behavior has much to do with what he watches. That would be on his individual attitude and what I have taught him.

I just don't let them watch SpongeBob because I don't like it. Not because I think its going to force them into bad behavior.
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Willow 12:12 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
I think you guys are reading way too much into it....I have seen all kinds of movies lately that have adult innuendos in them purposely so that adults can enjoy them too.

I watch it with my 6 year old and he has NO clue what any of that stuff means, he is a stellar little man with excellent behavior.

I think it has made him a strong decision maker, knowing that when he sees SP or PS do something bad he can identify it quickly and will say, that was wrong. I know in my heart of hearts that if I put my child in a room full of children who were making bad choices, that my child would not join in. He would either tell on them or he would walk away.


BUT not all children can do this. If my son was repeating any of what he was seeing on that show that was bad, I would NOT be letting him watch it....

but to each there own...

and I do agree that everything is fine in moderation as long as it it not something that is hurtful.....
It's not the modeling, sexual innuendos or sheer stupidity of the story lines that bothers me so much as what the (small) study concluded about the show specifically. It's the same concern other studies have concluded as far as how the ridiculously fast paced (near seizure inducing) sequences are shown. It overloads the immature brain. They rarely have a seconds length before switching to the next, and the next, and the next, and the next....you could compare it to watching real life while pushing a fast forward button.

It's simply too much to comprehend. And I do think it's reasonable to conclude that it can and does influence cognitive function (particularly a child's neurological ability to process what it takes in not only while watching but also for sometime afterward).

One can argue its ability to cause permanent damage but for me it wouldn't be a stretch if a child watched enough of it.
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daycare 12:26 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
It's not the modeling, sexual innuendos or sheer stupidity of the story lines that bothers me so much as what the (small) study concluded about the show specifically. It's the same concern other studies have concluded as far as how the ridiculously fast paced (near seizure inducing) sequences are shown. It overloads the immature brain. They rarely have a seconds length before switching to the next, and the next, and the next, and the next....you could compare it to watching real life while pushing a fast forward button.

It's simply too much to comprehend. And I do think it's reasonable to conclude that it can and does influence cognitive function (particularly a child's neurological ability to process what it takes in not only while watching but also for sometime afterward).

One can argue its ability to cause permanent damage but for me it wouldn't be a stretch if a child watched enough of it.
I could see this to be true if you let your child sit there and marathon the show....
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Willow 01:01 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
I could see this to be true if you let your child sit there and marathon the show....
You could see how it could be true? But my dear, it's already been scientifically proven, and I'm not talking just the "Spongebob study."

I know as a grown adult who's brain has already matured, if I sat in front of a television screen and watched even just a half hour of content fast forwarded through I'd be toast at the end.

That's not rocket science.

Similar fast flashing sequencing lights are known to actually cause seizures, do you really see zero connection??




Long live Mr. Rogers Neighborhood and Reading Rainbow
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craftymissbeth 03:10 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
You could see how it could be true? But my dear, it's already been scientifically proven, and I'm not talking just the "Spongebob study."

I know as a grown adult who's brain has already matured, if I sat in front of a television screen and watched even just a half hour of content fast forwarded through I'd be toast at the end.

That's not rocket science.

Similar fast flashing sequencing lights are known to actually cause seizures, do you really see zero connection??




Long live Mr. Rogers Neighborhood and Reading Rainbow
I would love to see the research done that supports what you're saying about the show.
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daycare 03:27 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
You could see how it could be true? But my dear, it's already been scientifically proven, and I'm not talking just the "Spongebob study."

I know as a grown adult who's brain has already matured, if I sat in front of a television screen and watched even just a half hour of content fast forwarded through I'd be toast at the end.

That's not rocket science.

Similar fast flashing sequencing lights are known to actually cause seizures, do you really see zero connection??




Long live Mr. Rogers Neighborhood and Reading Rainbow
so then I guess all three of my children are doomed for life. I guess tell Berkeley that my son watched this show and he is going to be screwed up......

Sorry, I can't agree with that....It is possible that it can happen sure, does it happen to every single person? Obviously not.

as for the flash forward, all of the shows these days are like that..
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Blackcat31 03:30 PM 10-28-2013
"Just 9 minutes of viewing a fast-paced television cartoon had immediate negative effects on 4-year-olds' executive function. Parents should be aware that fast-paced television shows could at least temporarily impair young children's executive function."

http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...peds.2010-1919

Other articles specifically mentioning Sponge Bob:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...26533420110911
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothyp...-hurting-kids/
http://www.pahomepage.com/story/spon...uEen3kIvRkAIqA
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep...brain-20110912
http://www.empoweringparents.com/blo...bad-for-kids/#
http://annedachel.com/2011/09/12/ped...fter-spongebob
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep...brain-20110912
http://www.examiner.com/article/spon...rician-s-group


I am sure there are hundreds of other articles.

FWIW~ I don't allow TV programming in my child care and when my own kids were little, they didn't watch Sponge Bob. NOT because I didn't allow them too but neither of them cared.

I have NO opinion on this particular subject.....I am just passing along articles that I was/am aware of supporting the negativity associated with Sponge Bob.
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craftymissbeth 03:44 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
"Just 9 minutes of viewing a fast-paced television cartoon had immediate negative effects on 4-year-olds' executive function. Parents should be aware that fast-paced television shows could at least temporarily impair young children's executive function."

http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...peds.2010-1919

Other articles specifically mentioning Sponge Bob:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...26533420110911
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothyp...-hurting-kids/
http://www.pahomepage.com/story/spon...uEen3kIvRkAIqA
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep...brain-20110912
http://www.empoweringparents.com/blo...bad-for-kids/#
http://annedachel.com/2011/09/12/ped...fter-spongebob
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep...brain-20110912
http://www.examiner.com/article/spon...rician-s-group



I am sure there are hundreds of other articles.

FWIW~ I don't allow TV programming in my child care and when my own kids were little, they didn't watch Sponge Bob. NOT because I didn't allow them too but neither of them cared.

I have NO opinion on this particular subject.....I am just passing along articles that I was/am aware of supporting the negativity associated with Sponge Bob.
Thanks BC, but I was was hoping for the actual studies. Journalists can spin anything into whatever they want. Ive actually read the first study you linked and I see where it says that these effects are temporary and the long term effects are unknown.

It was obviously an I eventful day here... an this is the thread i targeted to keep me busy
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Scout 03:45 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
I think you guys are reading way too much into it....I have seen all kinds of movies lately that have adult innuendos in them purposely so that adults can enjoy them too.

I watch it with my 6 year old and he has NO clue what any of that stuff means, he is a stellar little man with excellent behavior.

I think it has made him a strong decision maker, knowing that when he sees SP or PS do something bad he can identify it quickly and will say, that was wrong. I know in my heart of hearts that if I put my child in a room full of children who were making bad choices, that my child would not join in. He would either tell on them or he would walk away.


BUT not all children can do this. If my son was repeating any of what he was seeing on that show that was bad, I would NOT be letting him watch it....

but to each there own...

and I do agree that everything is fine in moderation as long as it it not something that is hurtful.....
I agree about the reading too much into it. Why, because I have a dirty(fun) mind and I watch it and it has never even dawned on me that the town is called Bikini Bottom and the resturaunt the Krusty Krab...but, now I think it is funny-and my son will continue to be able to watch it as long as he is the way he is now because I believe tv shows can not currupt him.
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Scout 03:58 PM 10-28-2013
Goodness, it is a tv show! If you don't like your kids to watch it then don't allow it. I personally like it and find nothing about it as influencing my son in a negative way. Spongebob is a wonderful friend to Patrick, Sandy, and even Squidward, who is mean to him. Spongebob is a hard worker. These are valuable lessons that I want him to learn and if it happens that he learns it from a tv character that is disliked by many, so be it...he has to learn it from something that catches his attention. And by the way, he has watched SB since age 2, he is 5 now, and is very well behaved for others and a very smart little kindergartener! A little bit of this is not going to make his brain disinegrate into thin air. I am hopeful that instead he will take the good things from a show he likes to watch. Instead, he could be watching Max and Ruby and yelling at his little brother every chance he got. But, instead he usually engages his brother to play with him and even said he would like to share his bedroom with him...Spongebob would do the same. Frankly, I don't care if he learned that from me or this tv show, the point is he learned to be nice to others and that is the important thing!
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daycare 04:05 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
Goodness, it is a tv show! If you don't like your kids to watch it then don't allow it. I personally like it and find nothing about it as influencing my son in a negative way. Spongebob is a wonderful friend to Patrick, Sandy, and even Squidward, who is mean to him. Spongebob is a hard worker. These are valuable lessons that I want him to learn and if it happens that he learns it from a tv character that is disliked by many, so be it...he has to learn it from something that catches his attention. And by the way, he has watched SB since age 2, he is 5 now, and is very well behaved for others and a very smart little kindergartener! A little bit of this is not going to make his brain disinegrate into thin air. I am hopeful that instead he will take the good things from a show he likes to watch. Instead, he could be watching Max and Ruby and yelling at his little brother every chance he got. But, instead he usually engages his brother to play with him and even said he would like to share his bedroom with him...Spongebob would do the same. Frankly, I don't care if he learned that from me or this tv show, the point is he learned to be nice to others and that is the important thing!
this!!!
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Willow 04:06 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by craftymissbeth:
I would love to see the research done that supports what you're saying about the show.
I'm not sure what you're asking specifically so I'll provide a variety of links citing various studies:

(Definitely feel free to omit the theological effects, but the rest of the cited studies and conclusions are as valid as they come)
http://lej.cuchicago.edu/early-child...ian-educators/

In regards to cartoons ability to trigger seizure activity:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...tb00809.x/full

In regards to televisions ability to increase the liklihood of adhd/add:
http://www.adhd-app.com/2013/03/05/t...tion-problems/


BC, you beat me to it....there truly are loads out there, it's no secret the effects cartoons have on growing brains at this point.
More citations on the effects of television on development:
http://www.limitv.org/preschool.htm
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Willow 04:09 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
so then I guess all three of my children are doomed for life. I guess tell Berkeley that my son watched this show and he is going to be screwed up......

Sorry, I can't agree with that....It is possible that it can happen sure, does it happen to every single person? Obviously not.

as for the flash forward, all of the shows these days are like that..
Why does every study ever cited here become irrelevant simply because it doesn't apply to you personal family's experiences?

With your husband being a doctor I'd think you'd be more respectful of broadscale studies and their conclusions.

That it doesn't apply to one person is irrelevant.
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Willow 04:13 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
I agree about the reading too much into it. Why, because I have a dirty(fun) mind and I watch it and it has never even dawned on me that the town is called Bikini Bottom and the resturaunt the Krusty Krab...but, now I think it is funny-and my son will continue to be able to watch it as long as he is the way he is now because I believe tv shows can not currupt him.
I didn't see anyone arguing if it was "corrupting" children. Questions were asked of people who poo-poo'd the show, those who chose to responded with why they felt that way.

It's gross to me, but my larger concern is with the effects on development. Hence, the citations supporting that concern.
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Willow 04:21 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
Goodness, it is a tv show! If you don't like your kids to watch it then don't allow it. I personally like it and find nothing about it as influencing my son in a negative way. Spongebob is a wonderful friend to Patrick, Sandy, and even Squidward, who is mean to him. Spongebob is a hard worker. These are valuable lessons that I want him to learn and if it happens that he learns it from a tv character that is disliked by many, so be it...he has to learn it from something that catches his attention. And by the way, he has watched SB since age 2, he is 5 now, and is very well behaved for others and a very smart little kindergartener! A little bit of this is not going to make his brain disinegrate into thin air. I am hopeful that instead he will take the good things from a show he likes to watch. Instead, he could be watching Max and Ruby and yelling at his little brother every chance he got. But, instead he usually engages his brother to play with him and even said he would like to share his bedroom with him...Spongebob would do the same. Frankly, I don't care if he learned that from me or this tv show, the point is he learned to be nice to others and that is the important thing!
No one argued that watching Spongebob will "disintegrate" anyones brain

My argument with it is that there are better alternatives. I don't feed mac n cheese from a box, I feed whole grain pasta with real cheddar. Box mac n cheese will not kill my child, but there are healthier alternatives and science supports that.

Same argument.

I don't care whats right for anyone else, I was only offering information in regards to how I've come to the conclusions I have about what is best for me and mine. I don't care to use my kids as guinea pigs to try to prove what well respected studies have already proven. I definitely prefer to stack the odds in their favor in most reasonable ways possible.
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daycare 04:24 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Why does every study ever cited here become irrelevant simply because it doesn't apply to you personal family's experiences?

With your husband being a doctor I'd think you'd be more respectful of broadscale studies and their conclusions.

That it doesn't apply to one person is irrelevant.
what does my husband being an MD have to do with how I view things?

As I said before, to each their own. I personally don't see this show as an issue. Regardless of what the research shows, I am allowing, and will allow my children to continue to watch it..

I showed my 17.5 year old this thread and he laughed saying that in his admission essay to Berkeley, he even stated in a section of it that SP was his childhood hero..........

Why does every study ever cited here become irrelevant simply because it doesn't apply to you personal family's experiences?

not sure where you even going with this, but I don't care to make this about me. Lets just agree to disagree.

thanks
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Lyss 04:38 PM 10-28-2013
OMG I hate SpongeBob... honestly I haven't watched it in forever or really never at any length but the bits and pieces were just annoying. I also hate Caillou and don't allow my DD to watch it. He also annoys me.

Is Rugrats still on? I see it mentioned and wondered. My brother LOVED that show...

I don't let DD watch that much TV at all. To me it has more of a "babysitter" value that many parents I know appreciate and use it for rather than an educational value but it's their choice for their kids, to each their own. I just don't let DD watch it because I honestly just hate kids shows and she just end ups cranky and restless later (she's an active kid).
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Willow 04:42 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
what does my husband being an MD have to do with how I view things?

As I said before, to each their own. I personally don't see this show as an issue. Regardless of what the research shows, I am allowing, and will allow my children to continue to watch it..

I showed my 17.5 year old this thread and he laughed saying that in his admission essay to Berkeley, he even stated in a section of it that SP was his childhood hero..........

Why does every study ever cited here become irrelevant simply because it doesn't apply to you personal family's experiences?

not sure where you even going with this, but I don't care to make this about me. Lets just agree to disagree.

thanks

Right on, will definitely agree to disagree lol
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Scout 04:49 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
No one argued that watching Spongebob will "disintegrate" anyones brain

My argument with it is that there are better alternatives. I don't feed mac n cheese from a box, I feed whole grain pasta with real cheddar. Box mac n cheese will not kill my child, but there are healthier alternatives and science supports that.

Same argument.

I don't care whats right for anyone else, I was only offering information in regards to how I've come to the conclusions I have about what is best for me and mine. I don't care to use my kids as guinea pigs to try to prove what well respected studies have already proven. I definitely prefer to stack the odds in their favor in most reasonable ways possible.
And my point is that if you feel there are better alternatives, then go with what you feel is superior! That's all. I find nothing wrong with the show so my kids are allowed to watch it, while eating mac and cheese from a box! Just a little funny, couldn't resist because it fit so well. The Pioneer Woman's mac and cheese is awesome by the way! I love making it for my family.
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Blackcat31 04:55 PM 10-28-2013
Nickelodeon made the following statement about the APA study of the show.

"Nickelodeon, home of SpongeBob, came out forcefully against the study, arguing the SpongeBob wasn’t designed for preschoolers in the first place.

It was designed to entertain older children aged 8-12."


Since a majority of kids in child care are preschoolers, I would hope they aren't allowed to watch it while in care.

What parents choose to do on their own time is on them.
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daycare 04:59 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Right on, will definitely agree to disagree lol
really it's just your way smarter than me, so I have to back out before you really reveal how dumb I am......lol YOu are great at debating. You should have been a lawyer.

lol I really have a hard time understanding a lot of the English language does not always get me out of everything..... My husband reminds me of this about daily
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Willow 05:06 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
And my point is that if you feel there are better alternatives, then go with what you feel is superior! That's all.

What I find funny is that those who liked the show were never grilled about why, but those who said they didn't, were.

To each their own should go both ways, no?

Like and watch and that's a respected position, but say you don't and you best be prepared to defend your position......complete with a plethora of acceptable study citations
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Willow 05:09 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
really it's just your way smarter than me, so I have to back out before you really reveal how dumb I am......lol YOu are great at debating. You should have been a lawyer.

lol I really have a hard time understanding a lot of the English language does not always get me out of everything..... My husband reminds me of this about daily

Say WHAT the WHAT ON EARTH????
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daycare 05:12 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Say WHAT the WHAT ON EARTH????
lol... Maybe I didn't make sense?
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Scout 05:20 PM 10-28-2013
I have to laugh because for kindergarten my son needs us to read with him for 15-20 min per night. He picks out the books. Last week he told me that library time at school is boring because they just read one book. I told him he is allowed to check out a book and bring it home. He chose Spongebob and when I went to say goodnight he was in his bed reading that Spongebob book happily with his father. He can read 20 words now and is steadily improving weekly from this. It doesnt matter what the book is, what matters is the love of reading he is getting out of it!
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Scout 05:25 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
What I find funny is that those who liked the show were never grilled about why, but those who said they didn't, were.

To each their own should go both ways, no?

Like and watch and that's a respected position, but say you don't and you best be prepared to defend your position......complete with a plethora of acceptable study citations
I stated why, SB is a hard worker and is kind to others. He loves to laugh and play and work. I believe kids can learn valuable lif lessons from a show like this. I believe this was in my first response.
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daycare 05:41 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
I stated why, SB is a hard worker and is kind to others. He loves to laugh and play and work. I believe kids can learn valuable lif lessons from a show like this. I believe this was in my first response.
I agree with that......My son has picked up on some huge words and extended vocabulary from this show. He told me the other day, mom if I am bad at school like sponge bob was, I will get detention. I will lose privileges.
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Cradle2crayons 05:46 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by craftymissbeth:
Watching SB is not comparable to your examples above.

The "in moderation" refers to allowing our children to watch a mindless, non-educational television show. I don't see the problem with an episode every on e in awhile, but sitting there for great lengths of time numbly staring at the tv is obviously unhealthy. Every single "activity" we allow our children to engage in does not have to serve a purpose or build their brain or teach them anything. It's ok IMO to let them space out and watch a stupid show.

My dcks don't watch any tv here at all because I'm sure they get plenty at home, but my 6 yo is allowed to watch an episode or two of whatever garbage cartoon h finds on netflix so he can decompress after a day of filling his big head full of new things at school.

(Not arguing, just don't understand your examples of moderation in regards to the topic)
Thank you. That was exactly my point except I said it not nearly as eloquently as you lol.
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BrooklynM 07:56 PM 10-28-2013
Lets just all put this in perspective. Some of you like Spongebob, some of you don't. Its entertainment. I don't think its a big deal. My kids didn't watch it til they were older (maybe around 8 or 9). They didn't watch a lot of it, but it is funny. Even the little side jokes for adults? I'm sorry, I laughed. I don't purposely watch the show, but I have seen it and it's pretty funny. I love Family Guy too. I don't let my kids watch Family Guy because it's for adults. The good news is that there is something different for everyone and everyone can make choices for their families.

I don't take things like this that seriously, there are more things to concentrate on like kindness and love.

To the one that said something about their son at Berkeley, that is where my daughter wants to go as well. Go Cal!

Life is so short ladies. Laugh, don't take things to seriously. I mean, who really lives in a pineapple under a sea? HAHA! JK
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Willow 08:30 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
I stated why, SB is a hard worker and is kind to others. He loves to laugh and play and work. I believe kids can learn valuable lif lessons from a show like this. I believe this was in my first response.
Except I never asked or questioned the reasoning behind your choice.

No one did.



The same courtesy was not extended to those who felt differently. Instead they were not only expected to explain themselves but also to cite specific scientific studies only some of which were deemed acceptable.

Was an icky double standard I didn't appreciate.
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Familycare71 08:49 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by LK5kids:
No, no, no... So rude, and the touch hard things????? Do not know what to say about that. Have never liked SBob!
I do allow tv tho. Disney for 1/2 hour 7:30-8:00 and maybe 15 min. Before lunch. I must be the only one that allows a little tv!!
I do too- about an hour in the am (half hour for SA and half hour for younger) and then 15 min - 30 min before lunch. Sometimes a half hour after school... I don't personally think its horrible and I monitor what's on.
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Willow 08:56 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
I stated why, SB is a hard worker and is kind to others. He loves to laugh and play and work. I believe kids can learn valuable lif lessons from a show like this. I believe this was in my first response.
Except I never asked or questioned the reasoning behind your choice.

No one did.



The same courtesy was not extended to those who felt differently. Instead they were not only expected to explain themselves but also to cite specific scientific studies only some of which were deemed acceptable.

Was an icky double standard imo.
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Familycare71 09:03 PM 10-28-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Except I never asked or questioned the reasoning behind your choice.

No one did.



The same courtesy was not extended to those who felt differently. Instead they were not only expected to explain themselves but also to cite specific scientific studies only some of which were deemed acceptable.

Was an icky double standard I didn't appreciate.
While reading through the thread- I believe you were asked for examples when you took it to the next level... It didnt happen until there were certain opinions (that could be seen as questioning a parents judgement and priorities for their child's health and well being) were brought up. Just my view-
And I like spongebob... Because he is funny! .
I also have not noticed half the innuendos that ya all did! Feel like I'm watching the video about how Disney hides dirty stuff in the film!
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Unregistered 05:31 AM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Familycare71:
While reading through the thread- I believe you were asked for examples when you took it to the next level... It didnt happen until there were certain opinions (that could be seen as questioning a parents judgement and priorities for their child's health and well being) were brought up. Just my view-
And I like spongebob... Because he is funny! .
I also have not noticed half the innuendos that ya all did! Feel like I'm watching the video about how Disney hides dirty stuff in the film!
There is a video of Disney hiding stuff in the films? I know of a few things Disney has done, like in Lion King. Do you know where I could find it?
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craftymissbeth 06:19 AM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Familycare71:
While reading through the thread- I believe you were asked for examples when you took it to the next level... It didnt happen until there were certain opinions (that could be seen as questioning a parents judgement and priorities for their child's health and well being) were brought up. Just my view-
And I like spongebob... Because he is funny! .
I also have not noticed half the innuendos that ya all did! Feel like I'm watching the video about how Disney hides dirty stuff in the film!
Exactly. When a person says there have been studies that show extremely negative effects on children's brains after watching the show... and it is said after some of us say we allow our children to watch it... then of course we would like proof of that.

Willow, no one here is attacking you in any way. How is that when you have something to say its healthy discussion, but if anyone has a different view or asks you to back up what you're saying with facts then it's not ok?
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Scout 06:25 AM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by BrooklynM:
Lets just all put this in perspective. Some of you like Spongebob, some of you don't. Its entertainment. I don't think its a big deal. My kids didn't watch it til they were older (maybe around 8 or 9). They didn't watch a lot of it, but it is funny. Even the little side jokes for adults? I'm sorry, I laughed. I don't purposely watch the show, but I have seen it and it's pretty funny. I love Family Guy too. I don't let my kids watch Family Guy because it's for adults. The good news is that there is something different for everyone and everyone can make choices for their families.

I don't take things like this that seriously, there are more things to concentrate on like kindness and love.

To the one that said something about their son at Berkeley, that is where my daughter wants to go as well. Go Cal!

Life is so short ladies. Laugh, don't take things to seriously. I mean, who really lives in a pineapple under a sea? HAHA! JK
I agree with you, it is a freaking tv show and that is why I find it so funny that people actually spent money on doing a study as to how it effects a child's brain after watching it. That is what I find funny. This thread though is highly entertaining to me, which is why I keep replying but, in all honesty, I could care less who likes this show or not because it will not change my opinion of it, neither will a study of (oh my gosh, 60 kids) because I am smart enough to know that 60 kids do not equal the millions that do watch this show and have no bad side effects from it! It is for entertainment and for me, so is this thread! I prefer to base my own opinions on things and not follow the results of a study when it is a study on something as silly as a child's tv show. I like it, my kids like it and we are your average american family.
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Scout 06:32 AM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Except I never asked or questioned the reasoning behind your choice.

No one did.



The same courtesy was not extended to those who felt differently. Instead they were not only expected to explain themselves but also to cite specific scientific studies only some of which were deemed acceptable.

Was an icky double standard imo.
Reread through this, neither did I. I was just pointing out the positive that I personally find in this show because it does not seem as though more than 4 of us actually ever took the time to really watch it. And by really watch it I mean more than one episode because there is a lot more to this show than 9 minutes can bring. I do watch it and the experience of that is worth more to me than the experience of 60 kids in a study about the after effects. I live the after effects every day and so far, nothing wrong has come of 30 minutes of this cartoon for my son.
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Leanna 06:51 AM 10-29-2013
Spongebob is a sponge. An animated sponge. He lives in a pineapple.
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Play Care 07:08 AM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Candy:
I hate SpongeBob, I walked by the other day and he said "lets touch hard things softly". WTF is that about. No way my kids would be watching that.
We don't really watch any tv, but as Spongebob is rated TV 7 and up it's not something I would feel comfortable allowing for dck's who are all under 5.

For me, it would be like finding out my 8 year old watched a PG-13 movie at school.
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Willow 07:14 AM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by craftymissbeth:
Exactly. When a person says there have been studies that show extremely negative effects on children's brains after watching the show... and it is said after some of us say we allow our children to watch it... then of course we would like proof of that.

Willow, no one here is attacking you in any way. How is that when you have something to say its healthy discussion, but if anyone has a different view or asks you to back up what you're saying with facts then it's not ok?

Never said I felt attacked lol

And I have no problem answering questions about my personal parenting choices, as long as I am afforded the same courtesy

The logic some of you are attempting to use here is where I'm getting stuck. One man theorized vaccines cause autism, and look how many people won't vaccinate their children even though it was proven bunk....also consider how many still do. The anti-tobacco movement started with one man theorizing tobacco causes cancer, now look at how many people quit, quit while pregnant, and those who continue to smoke and dip denying or ignoring the risk.. That people theorized the amount of television children watch can affect neurological development, and proved it true, and are taking that a step further by investigating popular cartoons specifically.....all of that will continue to be open to interpretation just the same. People are ultimately going to do what they're going to do regardless of what science has proven and thats their prerogative.


My kids are awesome smart little people just like I'm sure there are plenty of awesome smart little people who watch hours and hours of tv and spongebob a day. I personally think it's trash, and believe in filling my kids lives with things (tv included) that have far better content. I would be DEVISTATED if as young adults they came up with Spongebob as their hero when there is Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King, Oskar Schindler etc.

I don't care if others don't agree, and it's no more a dig on them than it is on me that they believe otherwise.

I love watching Family Guy and American Dad, it's what I fall asleep to most nights and as an adult I do see the entertainment value in it. As a parent however, I think there are enough alternatives available that I can skip that one that has been studied (on however small a scale) and proven detrimental.

Just like I don't take it personally when parents choose not to vaccinate based on the conclusions of one man who has since been proven wrong, I don't think anyone else should take it personally when I choose not to expose my own children to a specific form of media for similar reasons. The implications here that I am prudish or over reacting for considering what I believe science has proven is over kill. Read - not an attack - but certainly not respectful of my personal choice.

Choose what you want for your own, I was only defending my position which is exactly what was asked in the original post.
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Familycare71 07:35 AM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
There is a video of Disney hiding stuff in the films? I know of a few things Disney has done, like in Lion King. Do you know where I could find it?
I don't- it made its way around years ago... I'm sure if you google it you can find something on it. I just remember being being baffled that someone spent so much time and energy looking for inappropriateness in children's movies...
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My3cents 11:51 AM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
It's not the modeling, sexual innuendos or sheer stupidity of the story lines that bothers me so much as what the (small) study concluded about the show specifically. It's the same concern other studies have concluded as far as how the ridiculously fast paced (near seizure inducing) sequences are shown. It overloads the immature brain. They rarely have a seconds length before switching to the next, and the next, and the next, and the next....you could compare it to watching real life while pushing a fast forward button.

It's simply too much to comprehend. And I do think it's reasonable to conclude that it can and does influence cognitive function (particularly a child's neurological ability to process what it takes in not only while watching but also for sometime afterward).

One can argue its ability to cause permanent damage but for me it wouldn't be a stretch if a child watched enough of it.
I am no saint-

but I just feel with all the other good programming out there for kids,why stoop to SB, if your going to allow TV at all? I also agree with not every moment has to be chalk full of learning it can be filled with enjoyment. It's a personal preference for myself that I just don't like SB. There is enough of that smack dab rude adult oriented comedy in real life to have to sit down and watch more of it, esp for a developing mind that is trying to figure out right from wrong and so willing to absorb.
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My3cents 11:56 AM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
"Just 9 minutes of viewing a fast-paced television cartoon had immediate negative effects on 4-year-olds' executive function. Parents should be aware that fast-paced television shows could at least temporarily impair young children's executive function."

http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...peds.2010-1919

Other articles specifically mentioning Sponge Bob:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...26533420110911
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothyp...-hurting-kids/
http://www.pahomepage.com/story/spon...uEen3kIvRkAIqA
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep...brain-20110912
http://www.empoweringparents.com/blo...bad-for-kids/#
http://annedachel.com/2011/09/12/ped...fter-spongebob
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep...brain-20110912
http://www.examiner.com/article/spon...rician-s-group


I am sure there are hundreds of other articles.

FWIW~ I don't allow TV programming in my child care and when my own kids were little, they didn't watch Sponge Bob. NOT because I didn't allow them too but neither of them cared.

I have NO opinion on this particular subject.....I am just passing along articles that I was/am aware of supporting the negativity associated with Sponge Bob.
I think the fact that you have no tv in your daycare shows that you do have an opinion on this subject and its all good-
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Blackcat31 12:02 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by My3cents:
I think the fact that you have no tv in your daycare shows that you do have an opinion on this subject and its all good-
LOL! You are right...I DO have an opinion about child care and TV watching but I don't have an opinion on what people allow their own children to watch on their own time.

I am personally responsible for what the daycare kids are exposed to media-wise while at daycare but that is as far as my responsibility goes.

Personally, I think there are so many other shows out there that offer entertainment and can teach good values that Sponge Bob would probably be on the bottom of my list of choices if I had young kids of my own at home still that wanted to watch TV.

I can't get past the fact that he is wears his underwear all day....

Get dressed already
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My3cents 12:05 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
I agree about the reading too much into it. Why, because I have a dirty(fun) mind and I watch it and it has never even dawned on me that the town is called Bikini Bottom and the resturaunt the Krusty Krab...but, now I think it is funny-and my son will continue to be able to watch it as long as he is the way he is now because I believe tv shows can not currupt him.
I don't believe that it will corrupt him but I just feel there are better shows then SB to allow our children to view. Or- no tv, let the mind be used in imagination.

I don't know about the fast paced seizure scenes either. Life is fast paced and ever changing. I think if a child is prone to seizures they will have them at any time. I just feel too much TV for anyone can have the result of aggression when taken away. The focus is so concentrated that when interrupted anger appears and many minds just want for more of that high/escape the tv gives. I kind of equate it to the hungry bear coming out of hibernation and a bit dazed out.
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My3cents 12:12 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
Why does every study ever cited here become irrelevant simply because it doesn't apply to you personal family's experiences?

With your husband being a doctor I'd think you'd be more respectful of broadscale studies and their conclusions.

That it doesn't apply to one person is irrelevant.
I am not siding anyway except my own....ha ha ha

but my thoughts behind what is said here is that everyone makes choices and picks their own battles of what is important to them and what is not. This is not high priority for many people and for others it is. If you grew up watching Saturday morning cartoons then you probably will figure you turned out fine so everyone else will- Studies are just that- Studies. Choices always over ride any studies, at least until they become laws and then again they still remain choices-
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My3cents 12:13 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
No one argued that watching Spongebob will "disintegrate" anyones brain

My argument with it is that there are better alternatives. I don't feed mac n cheese from a box, I feed whole grain pasta with real cheddar. Box mac n cheese will not kill my child, but there are healthier alternatives and science supports that.

Same argument.

I don't care whats right for anyone else, I was only offering information in regards to how I've come to the conclusions I have about what is best for me and mine. I don't care to use my kids as guinea pigs to try to prove what well respected studies have already proven. I definitely prefer to stack the odds in their favor in most reasonable ways possible.

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My3cents 12:16 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Lyss:
OMG I hate SpongeBob... honestly I haven't watched it in forever or really never at any length but the bits and pieces were just annoying. I also hate Caillou and don't allow my DD to watch it. He also annoys me.

Is Rugrats still on? I see it mentioned and wondered. My brother LOVED that show...

I don't let DD watch that much TV at all. To me it has more of a "babysitter" value that many parents I know appreciate and use it for rather than an educational value but it's their choice for their kids, to each their own. I just don't let DD watch it because I honestly just hate kids shows and she just end ups cranky and restless later (she's an active kid).
I don't like Thomas the Train. I think all those trains are depressed and unhappy most of the time. I don't ban it but I don't care for it.
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My3cents 12:19 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
And my point is that if you feel there are better alternatives, then go with what you feel is superior! That's all. I find nothing wrong with the show so my kids are allowed to watch it, while eating mac and cheese from a box! Just a little funny, couldn't resist because it fit so well. The Pioneer Woman's mac and cheese is awesome by the way! I love making it for my family.
love that recipe thanks to all of you, just made it the other day!!! I don't like box stuff because the sodium is so high~ Going to make another thread on recipes now.....
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My3cents 12:19 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Nickelodeon made the following statement about the APA study of the show.

"Nickelodeon, home of SpongeBob, came out forcefully against the study, arguing the SpongeBob wasn’t designed for preschoolers in the first place.

It was designed to entertain older children aged 8-12."


Since a majority of kids in child care are preschoolers, I would hope they aren't allowed to watch it while in care.

What parents choose to do on their own time is on them.
I thought the same thing
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My3cents 12:20 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
really it's just your way smarter than me, so I have to back out before you really reveal how dumb I am......lol YOu are great at debating. You should have been a lawyer.

lol I really have a hard time understanding a lot of the English language does not always get me out of everything..... My husband reminds me of this about daily
play nice!!!
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My3cents 12:23 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
I have to laugh because for kindergarten my son needs us to read with him for 15-20 min per night. He picks out the books. Last week he told me that library time at school is boring because they just read one book. I told him he is allowed to check out a book and bring it home. He chose Spongebob and when I went to say goodnight he was in his bed reading that Spongebob book happily with his father. He can read 20 words now and is steadily improving weekly from this. It doesnt matter what the book is, what matters is the love of reading he is getting out of it!
As BC said it is a show geared towards 8 and above crowd but the books are in my preschool scholastic flyers....ugh! Guess they figure that motivates a non reader to read
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Country Kids 12:51 PM 10-29-2013
This so reminds me of something Jamie Lee Curtis said/experienced. She can't believe the amount of "children" that come up to her and recognize her from the Halloween movies!

She flatly tells the parents that the movie is Rated R and for those that are 17 and older not young children. It has a movie rating on it for a reason!

So I guess in the end ratings or letting parents know about age appropriateness don't matter as people don't pay attention to them. This isn't directed at anyone here in particular, being made as a general statement.

We are also a non tv childcare and getting to be that way as a family.We have a few shows we watch but really I can't tell you about most of the show that are on tv anymore.
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BrooklynM 01:22 PM 10-29-2013
On another note, not to change this 84 post subject on Spongebob or anything, but have you guys watched the Goldbergs? If you were born in the 70's and grew up an 80's child like I was, it's a must see. No, it's not appropriate for your toddlers or your daycares, lol. It is hilarious and it is actually based on Adam Goldbergs home movies. I love seeing the furniture and fashion from back then. Every scene I'm like- omg, we had that coffee table, or I had a sweater just like that! It's pretty cool to see how things used to be.

It's on tonight on ABC. It's fun!
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Scout 01:23 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by My3cents:
I don't believe that it will corrupt him but I just feel there are better shows then SB to allow our children to view. Or- no tv, let the mind be used in imagination.

I don't know about the fast paced seizure scenes either. Life is fast paced and ever changing. I think if a child is prone to seizures they will have them at any time. I just feel too much TV for anyone can have the result of aggression when taken away. The focus is so concentrated that when interrupted anger appears and many minds just want for more of that high/escape the tv gives. I kind of equate it to the hungry bear coming out of hibernation and a bit dazed out.
Oh, we also watch other shows, Spongebob comes and goes in our house. Right now just happens to be a Spongebob on time for him. My little guy adores Caillou and they all like Peppa Pig. I will be on the search for Piggy and Spider for Christmas as well(Charlotte's Web) because the little one got so into it I renewed it 2x from the library!
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daycare 01:42 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by My3cents:
play nice!!!
FYI I was being honest and was tying to relay this and was complementing her. I am not upset by anyone here. Yes, I am not able to debate well. I do feel that Willow is very smart and I guess I don't know how to post with my sense of humor coming out. Just because she was attacking me, does not mean that I am doing it back.
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Willow 01:49 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
FYI I was being honest and was tying to relay this and was complementing her. I am not upset by anyone here. Yes, I am not able to debate well. I do feel that Willow is very smart and I guess I don't know how to post with my sense of humor coming out. Just because she was attacking me, does not mean that I am doing it back.
You debate fine, give yourself more credit than that
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daycare 01:58 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
You debate fine, give yourself more credit than that
lol you are a fast thinker.... I really wish that I could think fast....I often reread the post and then have to try to figure them out along with the rest of the post....lol often I am still wrong....

I know I am not a dummy, but I like to try.....thanks..
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originalkat 03:10 PM 10-29-2013
I cant stand Sponge Bob. So no... the kids will never watch it over here. In fact, someone gave me a tone of those really large stickers they give away at Dr. offices... they are all SPONGE BOB! I wont even give them out because I would be embarrassed.
Maybe ill give them to the trick-or-treaters
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Maria2013 03:32 PM 10-29-2013
Originally Posted by SSWonders:
On the rare occasion that the tv is one in dc, it might be right before lunch if they are particularly rambunctious and I need them to settle down, educational tv only, or a special holiday movie. I love those myself.
that^
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momofboys 07:26 PM 10-29-2013
I'm surprised at the length of this message. I guess what surprises me the most is thid - do any of you who object so strongly to SB never watch tv that is just mindless jibberish simply to take a break & not have to think? I am not suggesting anyone watch tv 24/7 but my older SA children (10 & 12) watch SB occasionally & they are straight A students who are both in gifted Math classes. SB has obviously not caused their brains to turn to mush yet we don't let them watch tv for more than an hr/day. I am sure there are plenty of.other kids shows worse than SB. SB isn't meant for the PK crowd- pretty sure the rating says 7 & up
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Play Care 03:12 AM 10-30-2013
Originally Posted by momofboys:
I'm surprised at the length of this message. I guess what surprises me the most is thid - do any of you who object so strongly to SB never watch tv that is just mindless jibberish simply to take a break & not have to think? I am not suggesting anyone watch tv 24/7 but my older SA children (10 & 12) watch SB occasionally & they are straight A students who are both in gifted Math classes. SB has obviously not caused their brains to turn to mush yet we don't let them watch tv for more than an hr/day. I am sure there are plenty of.other kids shows worse than SB. SB isn't meant for the PK crowd- pretty sure the rating says 7 & up
I know when I read the OP I assumed it was talking about during the day - and in that case, my dck's are all under 5 and SB is not meant for that age group. In my first response I likened it to allowing my kids to watch a movie at school meant for older kids (say PG-13) without my knowledge or permission. As a provider, I don't feel comfortable assuming what I think my DCP's would allow or not.
My own SA kids have watched a few minutes here and there of SB (and that is mostly because I don't want them to be totally out of the loop in school), but I'm their parent and *I* decide that.
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momofboys 04:33 AM 10-30-2013
Originally Posted by Play Care:
I know when I read the OP I assumed it was talking about during the day - and in that case, my dck's are all under 5 and SB is not meant for that age group. In my first response I likened it to allowing my kids to watch a movie at school meant for older kids (say PG-13) without my knowledge or permission. As a provider, I don't feel comfortable assuming what I think my DCP's would allow or not.
My own SA kids have watched a few minutes here and there of SB (and that is mostly because I don't want them to be totally out of the loop in school), but I'm their parent and *I* decide that.
Exactly! The kids I watch don't watch tv here - it's rare if we do.
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My3cents 09:43 AM 10-30-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
FYI I was being honest and was tying to relay this and was complementing her. I am not upset by anyone here. Yes, I am not able to debate well. I do feel that Willow is very smart and I guess I don't know how to post with my sense of humor coming out. Just because she was attacking me, does not mean that I am doing it back.
Thank you for correcting me, I read into that wrong

I don't know about the part of her attacking you- I don't think she is setting out to do that to anyone but only saying her point of view. Yesterday I really got into this thread, to the point of I had to leave it and come back to it today. I have viewed it as good debate and feedback.

Aside from the SB thing, do you know what really urks me!!!? I say this with passion... because it truly bugs me-

commercials that are on before 9pm showing creepy stuff, inappropriate adult content. Does anyone else remember when Adult TV was after 9Pm? What happened? I personally don't want to see horror stuff in between watching Jeopardy. Killings? That crud gives me nightmares- UGH! You know most parents don't filter this at home-
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My3cents 09:49 AM 10-30-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
lol you are a fast thinker.... I really wish that I could think fast....I often reread the post and then have to try to figure them out along with the rest of the post....lol often I am still wrong....

I know I am not a dummy, but I like to try.....thanks..
I too am a thinker and do the same. I don't know if your wrong or not, maybe just have a different take on things. We all have many facets that help build who we are and what we stand for. I too think you debate just fine and I say this often I enjoy everyone's input, no matter if I agree or not. My point of view has changed over the years on different things as times have changed and knowledge and experiences have happened for me- It's all good~
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My3cents 10:02 AM 10-30-2013
Originally Posted by momofboys:
I'm surprised at the length of this message. I guess what surprises me the most is thid - do any of you who object so strongly to SB never watch tvI don't watch TV during the day at all during daycare hours. Unless serious news update- Night time I unwind to mindless Bravo- but I also like other stuff that is not mindless and interesting. that is just mindless jibberish simply to take a break & not have to think? I am not suggesting anyone watch tv 24/7 but my older SA children (10 & 12) watch SB occasionally & they are straight A students who are both in gifted Math classes. SB has obviously not caused their brains to turn to mush yet we don't let them watch tv for more than an hr/day. I am sure there are plenty of.other kids shows worse than SB. SB isn't meant for the PK crowd- pretty sure the rating says 7 & up
Difference to me is that I am an adult, the kids that I take care of are not. Parents can and will let them do whatever they want on their time. My time I want to be more professional. My kids I make the rules.
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thetoddlerwhisper 10:27 AM 10-30-2013
no spongebob at dc but we do watch brainy baby dvds and sometimes nickjr
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m.kids1301 03:57 PM 10-30-2013
I absolutely hate that show! It teaches kids to be rude and disrespectful and I never let any of them watch that here. I don't allow any of those gross cartoons; Simpsons, Family Guy, Beevus & and the stupid guy, and especially South Park. Those shows are NOT for kids and in my opinion not good material for anyone.
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momofboys 04:12 PM 10-30-2013
Originally Posted by My3cents:
Difference to me is that I am an adult, the kids that I take care of are not. Parents can and will let them do whatever they want on their time. My time I want to be more professional. My kids I make the rules.
Obviously. But I wasn't talking about DCK - only my own tweens (10 & 12). The kids I watch barely watch any tv here.
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