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mrsnj 10:20 AM 06-23-2014
I am pulling this out so I know if I am doing the wrong thing and needed a reply before dad shows for pick up......

In regard to the divorcing parents:

Mom paid for this week but shorted $50 which she still owes. I was nice and simply stated in the term notice that I was not able to keep the children until her requested date of Friday as the positions are no longer available. Term is set for tomorrow. If I do that should I owe the money back for the rest of the week? I know what I want to say. You know this question is coming so figured I would get thoughts. Or should I be the itch and term openly for not showing last week, not paying the late fees or this weeks payment not in full and say oh well. THAT will flip her over like a mad hornet and will probably give dad more ammo.

So.....nice......honest?
Keep payment.....give back and say chow lady? (note that payment is done by dad through court. So TECH the payment if I give back goes to the dad. Not the mom?? Don't even know how I would handle that)

Thoughts?
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Blackcat31 10:28 AM 06-23-2014
I'd keep any additional amounts paid and apply it to all those times she was late paying or picking up.

If she already paid those fees, then I would refund and be done.
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Sugar Magnolia 10:28 AM 06-23-2014
I would cut ties with this entire family, immediately. Including the dad.
She shorted you tuition, AND owes late fees? No refunds.
"Your services are terminated immediately for non-payment. No further care will be provided".

I feel sorry for the child.
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MrsSteinel'sHouse 10:31 AM 06-23-2014
Originally Posted by Sugar Magnolia:
I would cut ties with this entire family, immediately. Including the dad.
She shorted you tuition, AND owes late fees? No refunds.
"Your services are terminated immediately for non-payment. No further care will be provided".

I feel sorry for the child.
this. I know it is hard but you need to do it.
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mrsnj 10:43 AM 06-23-2014
Ok. So stand firm n move on. Thx

Should I do the breakdown why (no show, late fee not paid, week not paid in full) or leave it simply as the positions are no longer available n be done.
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NightOwl 10:50 AM 06-23-2014
I would include those things for the simple reason that you know she will ask why. You're pre answering her questions and possibly heading off an ugly confrontation.
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mrsnj 10:55 AM 06-23-2014
Ok. Thx
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Blackcat31 11:24 AM 06-23-2014
Originally Posted by mrsnj:
Ok. So stand firm n move on. Thx

Should I do the breakdown why (no show, late fee not paid, week not paid in full) or leave it simply as the positions are no longer available n be done.
She knows FULL WELL why.

I would terminate immediately and have NO further contact.
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EntropyControlSpecialist 11:46 AM 06-23-2014
Originally Posted by Wednesday:
I would include those things for the simple reason that you know she will ask why. You're pre answering her questions and possibly heading off an ugly confrontation.
When I do a term or someone does a term and they ask for a refund I ALWAYS send them what they owe, why they owe it, and any policies that apply to it as well (I have it written at least 7 times that I do not give refunds EVER). I NEVER heard back from people again when I do it this way. If it is people throwing a temper tantrum over me not doing everything they want (like, taking their kid to the toilet every 30 minutes/sending home for illness/etc.) and I tell them they are still welcome to attend until X date I never see them again. It works well.
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AmyKidsCo 01:16 PM 06-23-2014
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
I'd keep any additional amounts paid and apply it to all those times she was late paying or picking up.

If she already paid those fees, then I would refund and be done.
ITA. If you apply it to late fees give her a receipt to show where the money went.
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mrsnj 03:06 AM 06-24-2014
And.....there you go.......

She never called. Never showed with payment. Never replied in anyway. I checked my mailbox just in case before bed (husband did actually) and no payment. Done.
I gave a hardcopy to dad and emailed the mothers since I didn't see her. I have a hardcopy here.

She writes back at 3:30 this morning (A day late) to tell me that if I don't give her the money back she will take me to court. I didn't reply back. Husband says to write back one last time and give her the break down.....along with the notice sent Monday reminding her she was due payment on Monday. And say done.....
The girls will have been here half the week. She owes late fees. Ignored my reminder. Never paid. But I owe HER money!?

Ok...so. Should I reply back with a breakdown or not reply back at all.
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hope 03:20 AM 06-24-2014
Reply with a break down. She needs to see in writing and you will need if she does take you to court. Also give a copy of that break down to dcd.
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Sugar Magnolia 03:29 AM 06-24-2014
She's taking you to court, huh?
No she's not.

1.Send certified letter of the breakdown of what she owes.
2. Copy this to dad.
3. Never answer calls, texts, emails from her.
4. Do happy dance.
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mrsnj 04:28 AM 06-24-2014
DCM

Here is the following weeks breakdown.

June 16th, 2014- Mother abandoned XXX and YYY in my care which required me to contact another person after hours to pick up. Mother never replied to several attempts to contact by both myself and father to pick up children. Children were picked up late at 5:45pm after notifying father of children left in care. Late pick up fee not paid.

June 19th, 2014- June 23rd check dropped off. Shorted the late fee along with payment for YYY for June 26th and June 27th care.

June22nd, 2014- Text message sent as a reminder that a late fee was due on MONDAY June 23rd along with the full payment for the rest of the week for YYY care on June 26th and 27th which was not paid. No reply and no payment made.

June 22nd, 2014- Termination notice was sent in regard to not making full payment and not showing for pick up.

Note: XXX is in care until the end of day of June 24th. YYY uses morning on June 25th for bus pick up. Afternoon care denyed. Included below is the text message sent June 22nd.

I will send you a copy of the termination notice along with this current email via certified letter for your records. A copy has also been sent to (DCD).

Sincerely
......
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Second Home 05:32 AM 06-24-2014
Sounds good . I would just add the amount of late fees owed in the letter .
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CraftyMom 05:59 AM 06-24-2014
Does she still owe you additional money? Late fees and such?

I would list it out. Show a list of amounts owed compared to what she paid, resulting in a balance, if that's the case.

Example:

Care for week of June 23 $__
Payment short $__
Unpaid late fees $__
______
Total due as of June 23 $__

Then follow with:

Total due for June 23 $__
Amount paid on June 23 -$__
_______
Balance due $__

This shows in what she owes and why, compared to what she paid. IF you do end up in court it would help to have it listed out clearly to show that she is well aware of what she owes and why
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CraftyMom 06:00 AM 06-24-2014
Does she still owe you additional money? Late fees and such?

I would list it out. Show a list of amounts owed compared to what she paid, resulting in a balance, if that's the case.

Example:

Care for week of June 23.....$__
Payment short....................$__
Unpaid late fees..................$__
........................................_____
Total due as of June 23........$__

Then follow with:

Total due for June 23...........$__
Amount paid on June 23......-$__
......................................_______
Balance due........................$__

This shows clearly what she owes and why, compared to what she paid. IF you do end up in court it would help to have it listed out clearly to show that she is well aware of what she owes and why.
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mrsnj 06:04 AM 06-24-2014
K. Thx. Will add it into her certified letter. It was in the text which was included in the email which is why I didn't repeat it. But I can give a step by step breakdown. Usually end up doing that for her anyway along with stick figures do she can better get a visual. She isn't the brightest lightbulb sometimes. So I will add that in
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Crazy8 06:08 AM 06-24-2014
include amounts owed in the notice. You need to show that SHE owes you money, not the other way around.
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mrsnj 06:52 AM 06-24-2014
Ok. Done. With copies for everyone.
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mrsnj 10:10 AM 06-24-2014
I am heartbroken....girls just left. Sigh. Done.

But dad informed me not to worry about her coming at me for money or anything. She has bigger fish to fry. His lawyer sent their 52 page information on the hearing set for Friday and what they are going for ...custody, drug test request, etc SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more.....she opened the email file from the lawyer and now has a heads up that her meeting on Friday is going way beyond daycare placement. *sigh* Some people should never be parents. I just hope it pans out for him and the girls. The whole thing is sad. I have wanted to cry since yesterday.

Thanks everyone for helping. My end is tied up. Just have to send the cert letter in a bit and I am officially done. Dunno what I would do without you all
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