Well Now, I Think This Is A Licensing Violation...

[Miss A]

This was on my local news this morning. It is not in my state, thank goodness!

http://www.kwwl.com/story/33021884/2...=facebook_KWWL

[spedmommy4]

Wow! On this topic, I live in a state that recently legalized marijuana. The recent revisions to our licensing regulations state that providers cannot be a grower or hold a medical marijuana card. Guess they didn't want to see anything like this on the news here . . .

[mommyneedsadayoff]

Why on earth are they running a daycare when they have millions worth of mj? Daycare is hard! I wouldn't do it if my other business is netting a cool million!

[Mariahsaint]

Originally Posted by mommyneedsadayoff

Why on earth are they running a daycare when they have millions worth of mj? Daycare is hard! I wouldn't do it if my other business is netting a cool million!

They need to laundry all of that money, somehow! It's kinda like in Breaking Bad when they run the car wash.

[mommyneedsadayoff]

Ha! Good point!

[Blackcat31]

Originally Posted by Miss A

This was on my local news this morning. It is not in my state, thank goodness!

http://www.kwwl.com/story/33021884/2...=facebook_KWWL

A previous thread on the same subject

http://www.daycare.com/forum/showthr...d=1#post605676

[Pestle]

Originally Posted by Mariahsaint

They need to laundry all of that money, somehow! It's kinda like in Breaking Bad when they run the car wash.

I was assuming they used the kids as reverse-paid labor. You know: You till the soil, scatter the seeds, water the seedlings, apply fertilizer, harvest the plants . . . and I'll charge your parents by the hour for it.

[daycarediva]

1. There is NO way that they had 600 plants growing in your typical suburban back yard, they get HUGE and would easily tower over any privacy fencing- they also smell VERY strongly when full grown.

2. 600 plants is not even close to a million dollars. MAYBE 200,000, if they all get full yield AND they sell it in small quantities which no major distributor will mess with.

My cousin is a legal grower in a legal state and runs a legal dispensary. He nets about $200-250/plant,(depending on strain, sold in bulk) and he needed a commercial building with 20ft ceilings because how tall the plants get.

[Cat Herder]

Originally Posted by daycarediva

1. There is NO way that they had 600 plants growing in your typical suburban back yard, they get HUGE and would easily tower over any privacy fencing- they also smell VERY strongly when full grown.

2. 600 plants is not even close to a million dollars. MAYBE 200,000, if they all get full yield AND they sell it in small quantities which no major distributor will mess with.

My cousin is a legal grower in a legal state and runs a legal dispensary. He nets about $200-250/plant,(depending on strain, sold in bulk) and he needed a commercial building with 20ft ceilings because how tall the plants get.

Worth goes down when the risk is low, though, right. After seeing this providers facebook. I am really hoping it is a mistake, things don't add up.

The headline was funny initially, but after seeing her beautiful family (wedding) photos, the fact that she did the extra work of going to college for ECE after having been in business all these years (bio says started the same year as me) and she was legally licensed the whole time it just does not seem possible.

She passed inspections this year, then BAM condemned. How does that happen?

[mommyneedsadayoff]

Originally Posted by Cat Herder

Worth goes down when the risk is low, though, right. After seeing this providers facebook. I am really hoping it is a mistake, things don't add up.

The headline was funny initially, but after seeing her beautiful family (wedding) photos, the fact that she did the extra work of going to college for ECE after having been in business all these years (bio says started the same year as me) and she was legally licensed the whole time it just does not seem possible.

She passed inspections this year, then BAM condemned. How does that happen?

That is very odd. I read that the plants belonged to someone else who lived in the house, but it still makes very little sense.

Daycarediva- I have family who legally grow in CO and you are right. I asked on the other thread how a parent dropping off would not notice the smell. Even if they were outside, the smell would carry, so it just doesn't seem possible that she was able to hide it. Something is very fishy here

[daycarediva]

Originally Posted by Cat Herder

Worth goes down when the risk is low, though, right. After seeing this providers facebook. I am really hoping it is a mistake, things don't add up.

The headline was funny initially, but after seeing her beautiful family (wedding) photos, the fact that she did the extra work of going to college for ECE after having been in business all these years (bio says started the same year as me) and she was legally licensed the whole time it just does not seem possible.

She passed inspections this year, then BAM condemned. How does that happen?

It's actually higher prices legally to cover taxation and businesses liability and the employees, insurance, etc.

[Controlled Chaos]

My first thought was - That is a HUGE amount of weed! There has to be more to this story...

Also I am surprised licensing can say a provider can't have a green card as they are prescriptions. I can see saying you can't use while open, but after hours...I would see it the same as alcohol.

[284878]

Originally Posted by mommyneedsadayoff

Why on earth are they running a daycare when they have millions worth of mj? Daycare is hard! I wouldn't do it if my other business is netting a cool million!

Retirement! 😂

[284878]

Originally Posted by mommyneedsadayoff

Why on earth are they running a daycare when they have millions worth of mj? Daycare is hard! I wouldn't do it if my other business is netting a cool million!

I had a co-worker at my last job that was a dealer. His plan at 18 was to sell and keep the money for early retirement at thirty. Eventually he quit smoking weed turned himself into human resources as a addict. They had a policy that if you turned yourself in and got help you got to keep your job. But if you got caught or failed a random drug test you were gone no Second Chances. He is now over 30 and has not retired yet. Last I knew he felt it was okay 2 smoke it in a gathering but never by himself. He has also gotten a permit 2 grow medical purposes.

[hwichlaz]

My daycare parents notice the smell.......but it's not mine.

The entire town smells of MJ when it's close to harvest time.

[Cat Herder]

Originally Posted by daycarediva

It's actually higher prices legally to cover taxation and businesses liability and the employees, insurance, etc.

Interesting. I had not thought of that.

I am still getting used to the idea that respectable adults actually do this. It is just something that simply isn't legal or socially acceptable, here. It is viewed as further evidence of the decay of our country.

[Controlled Chaos]

So funny Cat Herder. In my neck of the woods its seen as akin to having a few beers or a glass of wine. Its not legal here yet...but I know at least 2 daycare families that smoke (great parents, good jobs) and if it were legal...I would too

[daycarediva]

Originally Posted by Cat Herder

Interesting. I had not thought of that.

I am still getting used to the idea that respectable adults actually do this. It is just something that simply isn't legal or socially acceptable, here. It is viewed as further evidence of the decay of our country.

The cousin I am referring to is getting his MBA, paying cash all the way. He's doing what he loves (ha!). He looks like a total stoner/loser punk kid though, until you know he just bought a house and paid cash and drives a BMW- paid for with cash. He randomly sends us items from his shop. dh and dd have pot leaf socks, we have ash trays (although we don't smoke anything- etc). The business aspect of it IS interesting, and since licenses are limited, it's BIG business now. He is saving like crazy to retire by 40, has an IRA worth more than mine at the moment (he is 22 now I believe) He is also using his money to diversify, he just bought land and is putting up storage units, and he is doing rental properties now, too. So that when the market floods, he has a safety net.

Originally Posted by Controlled Chaos

So funny Cat Herder. In my neck of the woods its seen as akin to having a few beers or a glass of wine. Its not legal here yet...but I know at least 2 daycare families that smoke (great parents, good jobs) and if it were legal...I would too

Same here. I wish we could replace weed with the heroin epidemic we have going on. They just found a 19yo college student dead in her dorm room yesterday and a drug addict od'ed and was dumped right behind the police station a few weeks ago, and then there was one they found floating in the lake this summer. Fun times here!

[Mike]

I will never agree with marijuana, and dislike the idea of it becoming normal. It has the same properties as alcohol. Some people can drink or use socially with no problems, but some get more regular due to life issues, and eventually get into harder drinks and drugs, and some end up dying, or killing others, because of it. Alcohol being legal is enough option for messing people's minds. We don't need another way to do it. Nothing against anyone here who is for, or uses, but in my home, there will never be any of either.

[mommyneedsadayoff]

Originally Posted by Mike

I will never agree with marijuana, and dislike the idea of it becoming normal. It has the same properties as alcohol. Some people can drink or use socially with no problems, but some get more regular due to life issues, and eventually get into harder drinks and drugs, and some end up dying, or killing others, because of it. Alcohol being legal is enough option for messing people's minds. We don't need another way to do it. Nothing against anyone here who is for, or uses, but in my home, there will never be any of either.

I respectfully disagree about the alcohol/MJ comparison, but the reason I bolded your last sentence is to show that having that choice is what is most important. You can choose not partake or have it in your house and is a perfectly reasonable choice to make. The people who use it and benefit from it do not get that same choice. Now that CO and WA, and many other states are legalizing it, even if just medicinal use, other people are finally getting the respect and ability to make their own choice for their own lives. I don't feel others should tell me what I can or cannot put in my body, just as I would never tell them what they should eat, drink, what meds they should take, ect. It is none of my business. Again, I respectfully disagree about the harmful effects that legalization of mj would have. I feel that keeping it illegal has led to far worse outcomes, including unnecessary death and incarceration.

[Mike]

I know that some people can get addicted to it just like alcohol, and eventually get into harder drugs, because in my late teens, a guy I knew was using it and got into harder drugs. He died at the age of 20 when he thought he could fly. In his case, it wouldn't have mattered if marijuana was legal or not. It was the start of his death.

Marijuana addiction may not be common, but it is real.
http://www.healthline.com/health-new...ut-real-072014

[mommyneedsadayoff]

Originally Posted by Mike

I know that some people can get addicted to it just like alcohol, and eventually get into harder drugs, because in my late teens, a guy I knew was using it and got into harder drugs. He died at the age of 20 when he thought he could fly. In his case, it wouldn't have mattered if marijuana was legal or not. It was the start of his death.

Marijuana addiction may not be common, but it is real.
http://www.healthline.com/health-new...ut-real-072014

I think anything can be addictive and I am sure there are people who are addicted to marijuana or at least addicted to the habit of using it. I have heard of people being addicted to running, which I find insane, as I get tired walking into the kitchen I don't think it is fair to punish a majority of people for the addictive issues of very, very few people. The benefits of marijuana far out weigh the risks of addiction.

As for it being a gate way drug, I am sure there are people who have started with mj and moved onto harder drugs. One reason may be that when you make it illegal, you make it popular on the black market and while many dealer get by on selling just mj, many are also pushing much harder drugs. By forcing it underground, people are walking into potentially dangerous encounters with dealers and with other types of drugs. Legalizing it will make it much safer for people to acquire. They will find it regardless of law, so I feel that the safer, the better. And again, the main point is that it has many beneficial uses and unlike alcohol and other drugs, it is medical option for many people and far healthier than numerous synthetic drugs.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by mommyneedsadayoff

I think anything can be addictive and I am sure there are people who are addicted to marijuana or at least addicted to the habit of using it. I have heard of people being addicted to running, which I find insane, as I get tired walking into the kitchen I don't think it is fair to punish a majority of people for the addictive issues of very, very few people. The benefits of marijuana far out weigh the risks of addiction.

As for it being a gate way drug, I am sure there are people who have started with mj and moved onto harder drugs. One reason may be that when you make it illegal, you make it popular on the black market and while many dealer get by on selling just mj, many are also pushing much harder drugs. By forcing it underground, people are walking into potentially dangerous encounters with dealers and with other types of drugs. Legalizing it will make it much safer for people to acquire. They will find it regardless of law, so I feel that the safer, the better. And again, the main point is that it has many beneficial uses and unlike alcohol and other drugs, it is medical option for many people and far healthier than numerous synthetic drugs.

You have some good points there.

[Blackcat31]

I'd choose a provider that smoked weed now and then (off hours etc only) before I'd choose a provider that took certain types of prescription medications.

[Cat Herder]

Originally Posted by daycarediva

The cousin I am referring to is getting his MBA

Oh, don't get me wrong. I was not taking pot shots (pun was not even intentional, just a happy accident). The laughy face was at me, the winky face was intended to point out I am trying to have an open mind. I get it. The water is not hot, even though everything and everyone in "my world" says it is boiling.

This is simply how I was taught my whole life. It takes time for an entire culture to change. We also have this down here :

"in the public school textbooks and classrooms, the religion of evolution is being taught to students by telling them that dinosaurs evolved into birds. So far, the Biblical model that creatures bring forth after their kind (birds produce birds, lizards produce lizards, etc) is the only observable (scientifically verifiable) model in existence; the religious model of evolution, that beast can produce bird, has never been observed in nature, but is still taught as if it's "science.":

And this:

"the proposed resolution acknowledging science’s contribution to mankind’s progress beyond the Stone Age is an “authoritarian” and “unconstitutional violation of the First Amendment’s establishment clause and protection of the freedom of speech,” and as a Pagan religion is responsible for advancing infanticide, gun violence, wars, Nazism, and likely all the diseases that plagued humanity down through the ages. The creationists’ categorical claim is that evolution is a religion like atheism, and it leads them to assert that “since the constitution calls for the state not to be involved in the establishment of any religion,” atheists have no right asking the federal government to endorse and mandate the religion known as evolution. "

[Mom2Two]

Let's get real for a minute about the problems caused by any substance that messes with your brain and physical well-being.

http://www.who.int/gho/alcohol/harms...hs_alcohol/en/
https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-he...and-statistics
Those are some pretty high numbers for the problems caused JUST by alcohol.

I've read/watched some of the facts about what marijuana does to a person's brain. I do feel disappointed that people abuse their minds and bodies the way they do. And I find that people are often very uninformed of the actual facts, and often seem quite uninterested, preferring the escape of the Now over the reality of the Future.

Having said that, I am in favor of legal, prescription, medical marijuana use.