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Unregistered 06:58 AM 05-19-2014
I know I am going to sound crazy here, so I logged out. I am renting a townhouse and moved in almost 2 years ago. My children and I (No husband, I'm a single mother) immediately started hearing weird noises, noticing that food 'disappeared' from our cabinets, would see weird shadows, etc. My next door neighbor told me that they heard noises from my house while it was supposedly empty for 2 months before I moved in. The day we got our keys, my daughter, her friend, and their two boyfriends (teenagers) came over and explored the house like kids do. They went in the attic and I specifically told them to see if it looked like anyone had been living in the attic. They said, "No". The kids went through every closet, room, attic, and basement and never saw anyone or anything that didn't belong. But from the first day we moved in, my family has had weird experiences like I described above. I had my nephew change all of the locks on the house. My landlord does not even have a key to the house! Only I do. I have had the police here 4 times trying to find someone in the house, called my nephew over once, and have had a couple of neighborhood older teenagers come over late at night to walk through the house trying to find someone in my house after hearing weird noises. None of us have ever found anyone in my house!

Yesterday evening, my daughter locked the doorknob and deadbolt to the front door, and we went out for about an hour. When we came home, the front door was open about an inch! She and I looked everywhere - except the basement-and couldn't find anyone. We were too afraid to go to the basement! This morning, I went to the basement and there is a plastic bag from Burger King on the floor in the back room (the laundry room). My daughters nor I put that bag there!!

I have a dog that would attack any stranger. He's perfect with you once I let you in the house, so he's great with the daycare kids and parents, and anyone else that I invite in the house. So, I thought that I would be safe from strangers in my house. But it occurred to me today, that if someone was living in this house before I moved in, then I bought my dog as an 8 week old puppy a little after we lived here. So, if the 'uninvited house guest' was already living here, my dog would have grown up thinking that the person is part of the family and won't attack them or act weird about them being in the house.

Now that I found the Burger King bag in the basement, I have proof that someone else is in my home. But I still can't find them! I just don't know what to do! I keep telling myself that I truly think someone has been living here for about 2 years and hasn't hurt us yet, so I shouldn't be too scared. But I am scared to death and don't know what to do!

So, any ideas?
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Blackcat31 07:03 AM 05-19-2014
I would go buy a couple of those Drop Cams video recorders that you can monitor from your smart phone or PC and set them up in different parts of your house and then wait....

That should give you the "proof" you need or eliminate your fears.
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Unregistered 07:05 AM 05-19-2014
Oh, my older daughter was in the house alone with her dog one day last summer. She was upstairs and her dog was in his crate on the main floor. She heard someone call him by his name and tell him that it's okay. They said this a couple of times to the dog. A little while later my younger daughter & I came home. My older daughter asked us why we had come home and left again. I told her we hadn't come home before then. She thought it was one of us telling her dog it was okay, but we were NOT HOME at that time!

That same time frame, last summer, my older daughter had her room in the basement. Her dog slept down there with her. She woke up out of sound sleep and raced upstairs ( I happened to still be awake and sitting at my desk on the main floor) she was screaming and her dog came up after her. She said she felt like someone was watching her (that's what woke her up) and when she opened her eyes, someone was walking towards her bed! So she screamed and ran upstairs. However, her dog was simply sleeping on the floor beside her bed. He didn't react to the person walking towards my daughter, the dog simply followed her upstairs.
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Unregistered 07:07 AM 05-19-2014
I did call a couple of alarm companies and asked about surveillance cameras, but I can't afford them. I don't know what a drop cam is. I'll look into them. Thanks!
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Unregistered 07:09 AM 05-19-2014
I have stayed up all night long a couple of nights throughout the past two years. I sat in my living room in the dark with my camcorder at the ready. But of course on those nights I didn't hear or see anything.
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spud912 07:09 AM 05-19-2014
All I know is that your story gives me the creeps! Ack!!!

I second the video camera. Especially by the entrances/exits to the house....hidden. This person obviously comes and goes.
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NightOwl 07:12 AM 05-19-2014
There are apps you could install on your phone or tablet that you can access remotely. That may be more cost effective. Omg, I'm creeped out for you!!
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NightOwl 07:13 AM 05-19-2014
And no, we would not think you're crazy!
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craftymissbeth 07:15 AM 05-19-2014


That's so scary!
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CraftyMom 07:15 AM 05-19-2014
Change every single lock again! How is this person getting in? A window that isn't locked? Make sure every window has a lock! Is there a "shared area" that this person would have access to and then come in your home somehow? I would be super creeped out! I would be inspecting every inch of the home looking for a way for him to get in, there has to be one somewhere
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EntropyControlSpecialist 07:16 AM 05-19-2014
That is really creepy. You could buy a video surveillance system for around $300-400 at stores like Costco, Sam's Club, etc.
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CraftyMom 07:16 AM 05-19-2014
Maybe make a big sign that says "Smile you are being recorded by the police department" and put it where you think this person will be
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Blackcat31 07:18 AM 05-19-2014
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
I did call a couple of alarm companies and asked about surveillance cameras, but I can't afford them. I don't know what a drop cam is. I'll look into them. Thanks!
https://www.dropcam.com/

There are lots of other types available but Drop Cam is THE easiest and simplest one to use.

You can also check out some of the baby monitor type video cameras. DH and I were looking at a few this weekend at Best Buy and you can buy some really cheap ones that are REALLY easy to use and view from smart phones without any professional installation necessary.
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Blackcat31 07:31 AM 05-19-2014
Originally Posted by EntropyControlSpecialist:
That is really creepy. You could buy a video surveillance system for around $300-400 at stores like Costco, Sam's Club, etc.
Drop cams and video baby monitors sell for less than $100.

No need to make a hefty investment.
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Unregistered 07:46 AM 05-19-2014
I have looked in every nook and cranny of this house and can't figure out how anyone is getting in and out. My doors are always locked. The windows are all locked. My dog never acts like a stranger has broken in.

The only thing I just came up with is that maybe someone was living here before I bought my dog and he (my dog) believes that the person is a family member so he doesn't act funny when the person comes out of hiding. I think the person hides during the day and then comes out at night after we are all asleep. I think they unlock the doors from the inside after we are asleep or when we go out for a while. Then the person simply unlocks the door from the inside, goes out for a while, leaves the door unlocked, then comes back inside before we get home. They could come and go from the basement every night and I would not know unless I sit in the basement or sit looking out my back window all night until I catch them.

I researched people living in other people's houses. I'm sure some of the stories online are made up. But there are a few that have had the police involved and arrests have been made. It does happen occasionally. And people have been caught after many months or a year or so of living in someone's home.

That's the part that I can't get over. This has been going on for 2 years! And even though I have had numerous people look, I haven't been able to find anyone in my home!
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Unregistered 07:48 AM 05-19-2014
I just looked into the drop cams online. I will probably buy some soon. Thank you.
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ihop 07:50 AM 05-19-2014
My cousin had this happen at her apartment. She make food and go get in the shower or leave to check the mail and come back and it would be gone. They were going crazy blaming the other room mates. Turns out someone had made a hidden trap door from their apartment to hers from the attic and were coming in when they would hear then leave. The called the police and then acted like they were leaving and listened at the door until they heard someone moving around then the police went in and arrested him.

It would be worth it to get the cameras. You can return them later. Maybe you can set off a flea bomb or something and wait outside and see if you flush anyone out

That's scary sorry you are dealing with that
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craftymissbeth 07:56 AM 05-19-2014
Originally Posted by ihop:
My cousin had this happen at her apartment. She make food and go get in the shower or leave to check the mail and come back and it would be gone. They were going crazy blaming the other room mates. Turns out someone had made a hidden trap door from their apartment to hers from the attic and were coming in when they would hear then leave. The called the police and then acted like they were leaving and listened at the door until they heard someone moving around then the police went in and arrested him.

It would be worth it to get the cameras. You can return them later. Maybe you can set off a flea bomb or something and wait outside and see if you flush anyone out

That's scary sorry you are dealing with that
I like this idea!
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Unregistered 07:56 AM 05-19-2014
lol! I like the flea bomb idea! That would be one big flea!
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Childminder 07:58 AM 05-19-2014
If you have a common wall with a neighbor look for hidden doors and openings in the backs of closets or under the stairs.
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SilverSabre25 08:00 AM 05-19-2014
I'd beg, borrow, or...well not steal, lol, but I'd do anything in my power to get those cameras TODAY. Photograph everything, document. CALL THE COPS. MAKE THEM LISTEN.

You either have a squatter/intruder or a very active ghost. My overactive imagination would have secret cameras planted all over watching you
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SilverSabre25 08:01 AM 05-19-2014
Also I just decided that come hell or high water I will NEVER live anywhere but a single-family home again...no sharing common walls/ceilings/anything.
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MotherNature 08:10 AM 05-19-2014
ew-that's terrifying. Hope you catch them!
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BumbleBee 08:21 AM 05-19-2014
If you changed the locks & had an extra key somewhere in the house-this person probably picked it up. Meaning this person was in the house when the locks were changed. I'm no help but that's what I first thought when you said you can't figure out how this person is getting in.
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Unregistered 08:31 AM 05-19-2014
Look for common shared walls. Or a window that they can crawl thru. A good friend was robbed repeatedly. She found out a neighbor was getting in using his access into his attic to get into shared attic and going down into her place to steal things. I would put a strong lock on both the attic access and basement door. If they are getting into the basement then they at least won't be able to get up into the main part of the house with a lock.
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Blackcat31 08:33 AM 05-19-2014
Since you are renting, could you maybe tell the landlord about this issue and maybe he/she would be willing to cover the costs of installing or purchasing a camera system.
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Unregistered 08:49 AM 05-19-2014
My landlord is a slumlord. There was sewage coming up from the basement toilet and overflowing onto the basement floor not too long after I moved in. He would come over and half-a$$ the job. Then it would happen again. This went on for months. I had to go crazy on the man before he got it fixed properly. The neighbors told me that they have had water problems in the basement here for a year or so and the landlord would never fix it.

The landlord would definitely not help me with anything about me thinking someone might be in the house.
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NoMoreJuice! 08:52 AM 05-19-2014
I am CREEPED OUT and it is not even my house! So sorry you are going through this! The only good piece of info is that nobody has been hurt. I have chills reading this thread right now. Creepy.
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Ms. Bubby 09:03 AM 05-19-2014
I was thinking along the lines of what ihop had mentioned. I had read or saw a story similar to what you're going through on the news a while back.
There was a man living in a house in a hidden area like an attic or storage panel in the walls. Have someone (police preferably or security company) open all areas not open to plain view such as attic space, vents, crawl spaces.
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Margarete 10:29 AM 05-19-2014
I have an inexpensive dlink camera that i have pointed towards the front door. It is set up to record when it sees movement (upper half so our dog doesn't set it off). You can also have it email you when it detects movement, and watch remotely. Calling the police when you have visual confirmation should get you a quicker response
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hope 10:33 AM 05-19-2014
When my sister bought her house they found a secret room that was built into the house. Apparently the previous owners were some big time drug dealers and used the room for hiding out or hiding their goods. Looking at the wall u would never see it or know it was there. I don't know how the realtor knew of it but thankful she did. I always wondered what if no one ever told my sister it was there n she came across it by accident later. There was a tricky way on a shelf to open the door so she may have never known!
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Unregistered 10:39 AM 05-19-2014
The people who lived in this house before I did were heavily into drugs. The police raided the house - which is the reason the last tenants moved out. I wonder if they had a secret hiding place somewhere.
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hope 10:43 AM 05-19-2014
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
The people who lived in this house before I did were heavily into drugs. The police raided the house - which is the reason the last tenants moved out. I wonder if they had a secret hiding place somewhere.
Look for any shelves or closets or cabinets that can be moved in any way. The back of a closet would b my first guess. In my sisters house not only was there a secret room....they also had a secret shoot from the back of a closet to drop goods or for a quick escape if need be I guess. That was also very hidden.
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Unregistered 10:45 AM 05-19-2014
The dlink camera looks good and is less expensive. Thank you.
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Play Care 10:47 AM 05-19-2014
This has freaked me out! I hope you get some answers!!
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llpa 10:51 AM 05-19-2014
I am completely freaked out!! Did you try opening the windows and doors that you say are locked!? It is poss that they look like they are locked but may be rigged somehow to later be opened. I don't think I could stay there. I am freaked out just by a raccoon that we recently had living in our attic or could the person be hiding in a storage closet/area behind boxes etc and reappearing when you are away or sleeping?
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melilley 10:53 AM 05-19-2014
Originally Posted by NoMoreJuice!:
I am CREEPED OUT and it is not even my house! So sorry you are going through this! The only good piece of info is that nobody has been hurt. I have chills reading this thread right now. Creepy.
My thoughts exactly!
I hope you find out something soon!
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My3cents 11:03 AM 05-19-2014
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
I would go buy a couple of those Drop Cams video recorders that you can monitor from your smart phone or PC and set them up in different parts of your house and then wait....

That should give you the "proof" you need or eliminate your fears.
yes! This
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e.j. 03:02 PM 05-19-2014
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
I am renting a townhouse and moved in almost 2 years ago.
I can't add to the advice already given but I have to say..... I would have moved out 1 year and 11 months ago! I can't imagine dealing with this for as long as you have. We swear we have a ghost living in our house with us because of some of the strange things we've experienced. It creeps me out but for some reason, it doesn't creep me out nearly as much as the thought of having an actual intruder entering my home does!

What are the police saying about it? I imagine they can't do too much unless they actually catch someone breaking in but could they send someone to check out the nooks and crannies, shelves and closets for you?
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NightOwl 03:32 PM 05-19-2014
Please keep this thread updated. We are all so curious! And CREEPED OUT!!
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Josiegirl 04:41 PM 05-19-2014
That is just about the strangest thing I've ever heard. I've got 2 dogs and if someone was hiding in my house, I'd know it, even if they thought it was family. They're all over everybody!
Yes, please let us know!
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Starburst 04:48 PM 05-19-2014
If you really are worried about it, I would suggest calling the police (non emergency number), tell them that you believe someone is in your house and ask them to search your property, because it is trespassing. Tip: I would make the call on a cell phone outside of the house (and not mention it at all when you are in the house), so that who ever it is can't hear you and try to leave/hide before the police have a chance to check it out (maybe pretend like you are going to the store or will be out for a while, and drive down the street).

Your story isn't that weird. I heard a similar story to that a few years ago.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/05...r-year-caught/
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JenNJ 05:29 PM 05-19-2014
Yeah. I'm calling BS on this one. There was an almost identical story to this in the news last year.
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permanentvacation 07:31 PM 05-19-2014
Nevermind
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permanentvacation 07:37 PM 05-19-2014
nevermind
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daycare 07:38 PM 05-19-2014
Originally Posted by 461555:
I have called the police about 4 different times from outside on my cell phone when my daughter and I ran outside scared to death from weird noises and told the police that I believe someone was in my house. Each time the police told me to stay outside and they searched my house but could not find anyone. That's all the police will do here. I stopped calling the police about it because I was afraid they would stop coming when I call since they could never find anyone. So I started calling my regular people when it happens and literally scares us out of the house. I've had my nephew come over and a couple of guys in the neighborhood come over but we never find anyone.
Ive read similar stories, I am sure it does happen..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1876759.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0K41mQVMJw


http://www.ryot.org/a-woman-lived-in...know-it/600289
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Bluebird1 08:17 PM 05-19-2014
If you can kennel the dog at night, I suggest putting talc or flour, discretely on the floors near areas where you've seen disturbances. I would be more concerned about not catching someone on a camera bc they may see you install it.

Another thing you could maybe do is call around and see if there is anyone who does residential energy audits. I think the local natural gas company does complimentary audits where I live...they bring in a gun that reads thermo temps and you can see where your heat/ ac is going...I don't know that I would tell the people I was looking for creepers in the wall but maybe you'd find a human silouette of heat in your walls!
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racemom 09:13 PM 05-19-2014
You mentioned you live in a townhouse. Could it be a neighbor coming thru a crawl space or attic? Some of the people who seem really nice and helpful are really creepers and that would explain how he might get in and out so easily. Hope you find something soon!
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TwinKristi 09:33 PM 05-19-2014
This happened to someone I know. Their neighbor found a way in the house and would sneak in and steal items from her home, but usually food, money and her Rx pain pills. She set up her camera and left for the day and sure enough there she was sneaking in the house!! The police had been out twice before and wouldn't believe her because she used pain pills (legitimately but they still blamed her) until she showed them the video.
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permanentvacation 04:37 AM 05-20-2014
nevermind
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Unregistered 06:35 AM 05-20-2014
A suggestion.. and maybe its a dumb suggestion but is there away you can turn off all your power to your place for a few minutes and then put up your powder trap on the floor. MY thinking is that its possible the person knows when you are out because they have hidden cameras in your place themselves..Such as a neighbor/ landlord? If you turn off the power maybe their cameras won't catch you setting the trap.
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CraftyMom 06:40 AM 05-20-2014
I'm reading all this and I just realized, do you have daycare in this home?
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NightOwl 07:00 AM 05-20-2014
Originally Posted by CraftyMom:
I'm reading all this and I just realized, do you have daycare in this home?
This!!
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Unregistered 07:30 AM 05-20-2014
Yes, I am doing daycare here.
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kathiemarie 07:35 AM 05-20-2014
Originally Posted by CraftyMom:
I'm reading all this and I just realized, do you have daycare in this home?
Was wondering this too.
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drseuss 07:36 AM 05-20-2014
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Yes, I am doing daycare here.
Do your daycare parents know that you suspect a stranger is squatting in your home? That's pretty freaking scary.
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crazydaycarelady 10:09 AM 05-20-2014
When you leave you could put a piece of scotch tape on the door jam. When you get home see if it is still intact.
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Annalee 10:23 AM 05-20-2014
Put one of them sticky mouse traps...they won't get that off!
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lovemykidstoo 10:26 AM 05-20-2014
Does the landlord have a key to your place? My first thought was access through the attic. I would hang up booby-traps. Cans on string etc.
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lovemykidstoo 10:27 AM 05-20-2014
I also would act like I'm leaving and lay in wait with a 38!!!
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Second Home 10:28 AM 05-20-2014
Originally Posted by Annalee:
Put one of them sticky mouse traps...they won't get that off!
Funny you said this . I stepped on one last weekend .
lesson learned -never go up into the attic barefoot .
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Annalee 10:30 AM 05-20-2014
Originally Posted by Second Home:
Funny you said this . I stepped on one last weekend .
lesson learned -never go up into the attic barefoot .
They are super sticky!!!
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Michael 12:18 PM 05-20-2014
It's an inside job. You sure someone you know is not playing with you? No one is that stealth. I thought a ghost but I don't think they like Burger King. Put a drop camera around in different places at different times. If there is nothing on them, I suggest you get your mind off of it. Nothing's going to happen if it has not already happened.
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Unregistered 12:52 PM 05-20-2014
I will hear noises and see shadows and notice food missing for a while, then it all stops for a while - anywhere from a couple of weeks to a couple of months. Then it will start up again. When it stops, I get my mind off of it, but when it starts back up, it drives me crazy that I can't figure out who or what is doing this. Of course, it also scares the mess out of my daughters and I when it is going on.
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CtheLove 02:15 PM 05-20-2014
And you see shadows? ummmm... if your seeing someone's shadow means they are walking around your house while you are at the same time just seems a little fishy to me either you have a very active ghost or one of your daughters keeps f'ing with you.
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Heidi 03:11 PM 05-20-2014
yeah, I'm calling bluffer. The "logged out but registered" could have come out of the closet after the first couple posts made it obvious no one was judging.

Also, not one suggestion has been considered, just the same story retold several times. If this were legit, there would be an aggressive "action plan", or at least "dang, I hadn't thought of that...I'll try it right away".
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craftymissbeth 03:19 PM 05-20-2014
Originally Posted by Heidi:
yeah, I'm calling bluffer. The "logged out but registered" could have come out of the closet after the first couple posts made it obvious no one was judging.

Also, not one suggestion has been considered, just the same story retold several times. If this were legit, there would be an aggressive "action plan", or at least "dang, I hadn't thought of that...I'll try it right away".
I honestly think she did come out of the closet somewhere in the middle, but she changed her mind
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NeedaVaca 03:35 PM 05-20-2014
Am I wrong? I thought it was xx? She made a comment like she was the OP or did I misunderstand something? Post#44
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Naptime yet? 03:52 PM 05-20-2014
Originally Posted by NeedaVaca:
Am I wrong? I thought it was xx? She made a comment like she was the OP or did I misunderstand something? Post#44
I thought so, too.

Close to where I live is a paranormal investigator group that works for free; I'd be giving them a call, if for nothing more than sh**s & giggles.

But this is a fun post, whether it's true or not! A nice change from the usual!

And if this is true, what a horrible thing to be experiencing! I would be questioning my sanity!
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drseuss 04:02 PM 05-20-2014
Here's a theory. Your two daughters' boyfriends are sneaking in and out of the house for secret visits. They are playing you trying to make you think it's a mystery.

*You are being bamboozled.
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Heidi 04:41 PM 05-20-2014
Originally Posted by craftymissbeth:
I honestly think she did come out of the closet somewhere in the middle, but she changed her mind
That's what I thought, too, but you were braver. To xx, if we're wrong, by all means straighten us out.
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sahm1225 07:51 PM 05-20-2014
Originally Posted by drseuss:
Here's a theory. Your two daughters' boyfriends are sneaking in and out of the house for secret visits. They are playing you trying to make you think it's a mystery.

*You are being bamboozled.
Your daughters are teenagers, right? That was my thought that it's a boyfriend sneaking around.
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Unregistered 04:38 AM 05-21-2014
It's not boyfriends. My older daughter lives an hour away and comes home on occasion to visit. Her boyfriend usually stays home ( an hour away). Sometimes he comes with her and stays with her. If had stayed home but decided he wanted to show up and see her, he would just knock on the door and come in ( he has done that once). They've been dating for 2 years. They are adults and he has stayed her in her room with her plenty of times. He doesn't have to sneak in.

My other daughter typically does not have boyfriends. She doesn't like the crap that comes with having one. ( Them fussing about her talking to other boys even though the other boy is just a friend, her worrying about every girl he talks to, the boy wanting to be 'up her butt' and not giving her time with just her and her female friends, etc.) Plus she knows that I allow her to have friends (boyfriends included) over until 2/3 in the morning (which she has done on occasion). So she wouldn't need to sneak anyone in, she could just let them in the front door.

And everyone my kids know know that I am bat-**** crazy. They know that if I catch them sneaking in, they might not live through it. So I don't think any of them would have the courage to sneak in. Drug dealers and gang members are afraid of me! I almost ran one of my kids' guy friends over with my truck at the gas station because I didn't recognize him when he picked my daughter up as she was walking across the gas station parking lot! I was sitting in my truck waiting for her to pay the attendant. I saw her start walking towards me and then all the sudden, I saw the back of some guy as he picked her up and started running with her. I floored it planning to hit the guy! Luckily he turned around to see what vehicle was loudly coming at him and I recognized him as one of our friends! I figured that my daughter would be better to be hit by my truck than some kidnapper put her in his vehicle and we have to hope to catch his vehicle!

Plus like I have said, my daughters are also scared out of their minds about the things that go on in the house. We have gone out for a while and come home to find my younger daughter's sketch book turned over on her bed. It's a little thing, but none of us were in the house. Who turned over her sketch book? Why would a boyfriend sneak in while we were out and look at her sketch book?

I am positive it's not a friend or boyfriend.
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CordiallyCranberry 04:50 AM 05-21-2014
Have you thought of having a paranormal investigation team come out? I know you said there was some sort of bag in the basement at one point, but maybe that was in the trash and moved? I am in a para group, we're all over! Just google your area and "paranormal investigators" and see what comes up to contact someone. Make sure they don't charge you. It should be a free service.
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Unregistered 05:03 AM 05-21-2014
I have thought about having paranormal investigators come here. But I think I am afraid of them conjuring up even more spirits or making these spirits mad. I don't mess with the spiritual world! I have, a couple of times, sat in a room and told 'whoever might be listening' that this is my home and they are not welcome here and in the name of God, they are to leave this home and never return and also not bother anyone or anything in this house. I don't remember my exact words at the time, but that's the general concept of what I have said a couple of times. Typically when I have done that, things quiet down for a while. But then for no reason, usually in a couple of months, things start up again.

So, I don't know if the spirits obey me and then new spirits arrive, or if a person realizes that they have been too loud and realize that they have to be quieter so they don't get caught.
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coolconfidentme 05:09 AM 05-21-2014
Burn a 7 day reverse energy candle. Who knows, it couldn't hurt!
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Unregistered 05:10 AM 05-21-2014
Re: possibly boyfriends sneaking in

Also, I check my younger daughter's twitter (she doesn't know that I do). I'm sure if she had been sneaking someone in, she would have said something about it on twitter at some point of time. All she ever puts is how weird things happen and she's scared. This morning for instance, (I believe because the weird stuff just started back up) she put how she's scared to death of the dark.
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Unregistered 05:11 AM 05-21-2014
7 day reverse energy candle? I've never heard of that. I'll look that up. Thanks.
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coolconfidentme 05:19 AM 05-21-2014
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
7 day reverse energy candle? I've never heard of that. I'll look that up. Thanks.
Here's one I found on Ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161035019049?lpid=82 (I'm sure you can find them elsewhere.)
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Unregistered 05:32 AM 05-21-2014
There has been food missing... A spirit or bad energy wouldn't take food... Would it?
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cara041083 05:33 AM 05-21-2014
Just a question, but Why have you stayed so long? You have stated that the landlord is a slum lord and won't fix anything, and if there is something going on then why stay and drive your self nuts?
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Unregistered 05:38 AM 05-21-2014
Coolconfidentme,

Thank you, I googled it and read about it. It is Wiccan based. I know someone who is Wiccan and they suggested to use a sage/smudge stick in all 4 corners of every room.
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Unregistered 05:49 AM 05-21-2014
I have stayed so long because I am a broke single mother whose profession is licensed home daycare. Most people in my area will not rent to you if you run a business out of your home for fear of them getting sued if someone gets hurt on their property. Plus I have a dog and 2 cats! So I am lucky to have found someone willing to allow me to do daycare in their home and allow my pets. I don't have the money to move anyway. I have tried to save up money to move, but as soon as I get a little put aside, something happens (such as my car completely dying and I had to buy a new car!) and I have to spend that money on an immediate emergency.

I am not educated in anything other than daycare. The only out of the home jobs I could get are retail, stand on your feet jobs. I have a bad ankle and can't stand up for too long. I have worked in a daycare center before, when I moved here from my previous home and was waiting to get my new license for this house. But the pay was so low that I couldn't support myself and couldn't wait to get my new daycare license.

Basically, I'm stuck here until I can get the money together to move to another house that will allow me to do daycare and keep my pets (I'm not going to get rid of my pets. They are family members to me. We are the only family they have ever known and I don't believe in just getting rid of pets) or I fix my credit enough to buy a house. I trusted my ex when I moved back into state. He said he'd pay my bills for a while until I get a job and get on my feet if I moved back into state which would allow him to see the children more often (this was a while ago). But instead of paying the bills, he handed them back to me and refused to help me financially. So trusting him ruined my credit! I'm working on fixing my credit, but that takes time.
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SilverSabre25 05:58 AM 05-21-2014
Putting aside for a moment how crazy the story sounds--I would be concerned as a parent, a single woman, a daycare provider, you name it--if someone really is doing this they know when you are not there and I would be very concerned about privacy. Namely, cameras placed throughout the home. In potentially very intimate places, if you catch my drift.

I wouldn't bring it up to the landlord as there would be an excellent chance he could be the culprit, or in on it.
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Unregistered 06:15 AM 05-21-2014
I am definitely not telling my landlord. I have also looked around for spy cameras like you are suggesting. I have thought about what you are saying a long time ago. I haven't been able to find any cameras. But since I changed the locks and didn't give the landlord a new key, I don't think it would be him. I think it's either spirits or someone has been living here since I moved in and was already in the house when I changed the locks.
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daycaremum 06:16 AM 05-21-2014
I'm quite unsure of this story. You could just sign on under your user name, why be unregistered, none of us know you or care who you are. Your story doesn't warrant signing on and remaining unregistered.
Also, it's been a while, if you were really serious you would have gotten a cheap camera (yes you can get them cheap) and set it up.
Also, a ghost wouldn't bring in Burger King and leave the wrapper, let's be serious!
Finally, I would be very uncomfortable leaving my children in a homedaycare where someone was sneaking in and out, or was inhabited by ghosts. Safety of the children in your charge should be priority number one.
So either fess up that you are pulling everyone's leg, or sign in under your user name (there's no reason not to) or put up cameras and figure out what's going on.
I don't believe you are serious. Either not serious about what is actually going on (just having some fun with all these ladies), or not really serious about figuring out what is happening and doing something about it.
That's my piece.
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Unregistered 06:41 AM 05-21-2014
For those that don't believe me.

No, my parents don't know of this. Nothing has happened that would endanger the children and I am certainly not going to risk losing all of my income over strange noises/happenings. I knew that everyone would freak out about the daycare kids safety which is one reason I don't want you to know who I am.

As I have said, I am a broke single mother. My bank account is currently negative 74.00. I have only been discussing this with you for a couple of days and haven't been paid since I first posted this. I can't buy a camera until I get paid! I can't even buy powder to put on the basement and kitchen floors until I get paid, which is this Friday.

I knew some of you would give me crap about this. I should have known not to say anything on here.

But most of you have given me ideas and suggestions, which I very much appreciate. Thank you.

I am keeping notes and am making plans on things to do. I found a store that sells the smudge stick my friend recommended and tried to call that store this morning to see if they also sell the 7 day reverse energy candle. But they aren't open yet. I would think they will sell the candle since they sell the smudge stick. I went to Walmart and found a set of security cameras for $120 (includes 2 cameras) and a set of 4 cameras for $350.

So, I am looking into everything, I just don't have the money to buy any of it right now. Just because I can't afford to run out and buy things immediately does not mean that I am lying or that I am not sincere about wanting to do something about the things going on here. It simply means that I have to gather information, ideas, suggestions, decide which suggestions to go with, and then get the money together to purchase the necessary supplies to execute the decided action.
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cara041083 06:43 AM 05-21-2014
Originally Posted by SilverSabre25:
Putting aside for a moment how crazy the story sounds--I would be concerned as a parent, a single woman, a daycare provider, you name it--if someone really is doing this they know when you are not there and I would be very concerned about privacy. Namely, cameras placed throughout the home. In potentially very intimate places, if you catch my drift.

I wouldn't bring it up to the landlord as there would be an excellent chance he could be the culprit, or in on it.
This was my thought as well. If they are watching her, who know what they can see. I would be scared to even get undressed let alone sleep and live in a place like that. As a daycare provider, I wouldn't let the kids leave my side for nap or any other reason. That is just dangerous. I am sorry you are in the position you are in but i would use the suggestions mentioned above and resolve it or figure something out. What if something happened to one of the daycare kids? I as a parent would want to know what was going on and I for sure wouldn't want my child left unattended if someone was hiding in the home. Like I said who know what they see or even watch you and the kids do. Im not bashing u. I really hope you get it resolved soon!
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daycaremum 06:49 AM 05-21-2014
I apologize about the confusion of the dates. I see you only posted this a few days ago.
As for remaining unregisitered, I still don't get it. No one is going to track you down and report you because you think you might have ghosts.
You said before that you looked for a camera and couldn't find one, not that you didn't have the money to purchase one.
Like I said, I am just unsure as you are an anonymous person on the internet typing words, who cares if I believe you or not.
Just thought there were some ways you could add credibility.
Hope you figure it all out, I'm sure if you really believe there is something going on (for months now I believe you said) you must be quite scared with no options to leave.
Or perhaps you have become accustomed to it as you say nobody is in danger.
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SilverSabre25 06:54 AM 05-21-2014
((hugs))

no matter what it is, it's clear that you are frightened and there's nothing wrong with reaching out for help and support, or with remaining anonymous.
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Unregistered 07:00 AM 05-21-2014
The daycare kids do not leave my sight except for when I have to go to the bathroom. When they go to the bathroom, they do have to go to the top of the stairs. But I require the kids to leave the bathroom door open because I had a child play with the toilet water, a couple of kids have put large amounts of toilet paper in the toilet, and a couple of times kids have put paper towels in the toilet. Since some of them play in the bathroom like this, I require that they leave the bathroom door open. They still have privacy because you can't see up the stairs from where the kids are in the rooms on the main floor. You literally have to walk over to the side of the house and look up the steps to see in the bathroom, then, you have to be tall enough to see a child sitting on the toilet. So, I can, if a child is in the bathroom too long, I can look upstairs to check on them, but the other kids can't see them in the bathroom.

The children nap/play/eat/do everything right here in my living room and dining room and I am here in the rooms with them all day unless I go to the bathroom. My dog (which I know some of you will be concerned about the dog around the kids) but, my dog runs throughout the house and is often on the main floor with the children when I go to the bathroom. I am only in the bathroom long enough to do my business and then come back to the room with the kids. My kitchen is divided from the dining room by an island. So there is no wall blocking me from them when I am in the kitchen.

My children and I have lived in this house for almost 2 years, I have done home daycare for almost the entire time I have lived here. Nothing has happened to anyone in my home. If someone is living here that I don't know, I don't think they are going to hurt anyone. If they were going to, they would have hurt someone by now. If someone is in here, I think it's a homeless person who needs place to stay and access to food.

However, when we hear noises at night, see shadows, realize that food is missing, of course it scares us. And I definitely do not want someone here uninvited. Of course I am concerned that they are seeing us in the bathroom or bedrooms when we are undressed. But honestly, I was more worried about that when this all started. Now, I am just more irritated that we lose sleep, are scared in our own home at night, and haven't figured out who or what this is and haven't gotten it to stop yet.
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Unregistered 07:05 AM 05-21-2014
I've kind of become accustomed to it. But it NEEDS to stop! It's so nice when things stop for a while and we can forget about it ever happening and just go to sleep all night long with no worries. But then after some time, it starts up again. It's just wearing me out. When it starts up, it gets my daughter and I in a state of worry/fear every night. And me in a state of concern throughout the day.
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Blackcat31 07:15 AM 05-21-2014
Seriously, why does it matter if the OP is a registered member or not? And why would it matter if she stated who she was or wasn't???

It isn't like posting under the user name Blackcat gives my words any more credibility that if I posted under Catherine Miller or "unregistered" know what I mean?

WHO she is has NOTHING to do with the situation.

I also think that if you don't believe the OP, then don't comment... I personally do not believe in ghosts or spirits but have zero issues with anyone who does and I certainly would not belittle someone or give them grief about their beliefs simply because they don't align with mine.

If you think the OP is making this up....then cool, you are entitled to your thoughts/opinion but to continue discussing whether or not she is or isn't telling the truth is silly as the OP obviously does believe someone IS in her house.

Most our "trolls" or pot stirrers post as unregistered and then rarely return. This OP has returned to reply and add several times within the thread.

Gathering info from the things she has posted, it's also apparent as to why she has stayed living in the home. She said several times that she is a single mom making ends meet on a child care providers salary. Money is obviously a key influence as to how she manages or solves this issue.

OP, I hope you are able to find a solution to what is happening.

I know that once you "see" something that freaks you out, it is amazing the tricks your eyes believe they saw or your ears think they have heard.
I truly hope this is not a living breathing human in your home because that is just plain old creepy and VERY unsettling.

I have read stories about this type of thing happening to others but don't know anyone personally who has had to deal with this so I really do hope that you are able to get to the bottom of this. Try the flour, the Drop cam, the scotchtape and every other suggestion given as something is better than nothing.

When you do get to the bottom of this, please keep us updated so we can rest assured that you and your daughters are ok.
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countrymom 07:21 AM 05-21-2014
I'll be honest, either you don't want to do anything about it or you are playing the pity card.

you have teenagers, tell them to get a job. You don't have enough money, work a second job. Save and move. If your not making enough doing daycare then you need to rethink your plans.

also, the dollar store sells lots of cheap gadgets. they even sell window alarms, I know because I have them. For 30 dollars you can even get a door alarm from home depot. Have you checked for foot prints. How about flood lights, you can buy them under 20 dollars. You can also set up your ipod to record at night too. There are so many cheap and easy things out there, why haven't you tried them.

and if you were really serious, why wait 2 yrs to do something about it. Seems like you are too lax about the situation too.

can admin check to see if this is a real registered member.
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Annalee 07:25 AM 05-21-2014
Originally Posted by countrymom:
I'll be honest, either you don't want to do anything about it or you are playing the pity card.

you have teenagers, tell them to get a job. You don't have enough money, work a second job. Save and move. If your not making enough doing daycare then you need to rethink your plans.

also, the dollar store sells lots of cheap gadgets. they even sell window alarms, I know because I have them. For 30 dollars you can even get a door alarm from home depot. Have you checked for foot prints. How about flood lights, you can buy them under 20 dollars. You can also set up your ipod to record at night too. There are so many cheap and easy things out there, why haven't you tried them.

and if you were really serious, why wait 2 yrs to do something about it. Seems like you are too lax about the situation too.

can admin check to see if this is a real registered member.
We all need support and encouragement but it is ultimately up to the individual to "do something" and quit whining. MOVE ON ALREADY!!!!!
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countrymom 08:12 AM 05-21-2014
Originally Posted by Annalee:
We all need support and encouragement but it is ultimately up to the individual to "do something" and quit whining. MOVE ON ALREADY!!!!!
yup i agree too
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CordiallyCranberry 08:18 AM 05-21-2014
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
There has been food missing... A spirit or bad energy wouldn't take food... Would it?
Oh I missed that. No. They can't consume food lol. But they can move things and generally make noise and cause issues.
So, I am with everyone else on this. Get some cameras and see what's going on when whoever it is is active.
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TwinKristi 08:40 AM 05-21-2014
Do you have an Amazon account or know someone locally who does? You can also sign up under Amazon Mom and get a free trial for their Prime services which includes free 2 day shipping. I know you're account is currently negative but when you get paid again I HIGHLY suggest setting up a small hidden camera like this one and two if you can swing it. Put them in the two locations most frequented (like where you found the Burger King bag) and the kitchen?

I don't know whether or not I believe there's someone in your home, but if I personally thought someone was in my house for TWO YEARS, I would have set up a camera, a freakin rope with tin cans, baby powder on the floor... SOMETHING!! I think that's what is hard for people to wrap their mind around. I have been stuck living in a house I didn't want to because I didn't have the money to move out so I can TOTALLY get that part of it. But you have to do something here...


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Childminder 08:52 AM 05-21-2014
Do you have flour? Sprinkle that instead of powder to check for footprints. Also I bought door sirens at the $ store they operate by magnets and mount with sticky tape onto doors and windows. When you get a few $$ yo could try those and see if your doors, closet or otherwise, are breached.
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craftymissbeth 08:58 AM 05-21-2014
Originally Posted by daycaremum:
I'm quite unsure of this story. You could just sign on under your user name, why be unregistered, none of us know you or care who you are. Your story doesn't warrant signing on and remaining unregistered.
Also, it's been a while, if you were really serious you would have gotten a cheap camera (yes you can get them cheap) and set it up.
Also, a ghost wouldn't bring in Burger King and leave the wrapper, let's be serious!
Finally, I would be very uncomfortable leaving my children in a homedaycare where someone was sneaking in and out, or was inhabited by ghosts. Safety of the children in your charge should be priority number one.
So either fess up that you are pulling everyone's leg, or sign in under your user name (there's no reason not to) or put up cameras and figure out what's going on.
I don't believe you are serious. Either not serious about what is actually going on (just having some fun with all these ladies), or not really serious about figuring out what is happening and doing something about it.
That's my piece.
Originally Posted by daycaremum:
I apologize about the confusion of the dates. I see you only posted this a few days ago.
As for remaining unregisitered, I still don't get it. No one is going to track you down and report you because you think you might have ghosts.
You said before that you looked for a camera and couldn't find one, not that you didn't have the money to purchase one.
Like I said, I am just unsure as you are an anonymous person on the internet typing words, who cares if I believe you or not.
Just thought there were some ways you could add credibility.
Hope you figure it all out, I'm sure if you really believe there is something going on (for months now I believe you said) you must be quite scared with no options to leave.
Or perhaps you have become accustomed to it as you say nobody is in danger.
I have never visited an Internet forum where I knew anyone. And as much as I dearly care for all of the members here, there's absolutely no way to know who is truthful and who isn't regardless of whether they post as a registered member or not. There's no reason for her to prove the story's true or to give credibility to the story. Either you want to give her CONSTRUCTIVE advice relavent to her situation or you honestly can just ignore this post and move on.

With that said, OP, I feel for you. I've experienced enough craziness to know that I have ghosts in my home. My house was built in 1918 so who knows what's happened here. I do know that in the early 90s a woman hanged herself in the garage... just a few years before my parents bought it. I was alone one night and sleeping and "someone" spit a giant, smelly loogie in my face!
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