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LaLa1923 07:21 AM 08-01-2013
I'm really considering making it a requirement that parents bathe their kids every night. Also, that if they have offensive orders they can be sent home. This isn't to hurt feelings but I have three kids that do not get baths every night and they reek. I cannot stand it..
Thoughts??
Thoughts??
daycare 07:22 AM 08-01-2013
To be honest I don't think that is something that I would put into any policy or handbook...'
I would just have a heart to heart with the parents and let them know that the kids really need to have a bath.....
I would just have a heart to heart with the parents and let them know that the kids really need to have a bath.....
Scout 07:28 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
To be honest I don't think that is something that I would put into any policy or handbook...'
I would just have a heart to heart with the parents and let them know that the kids really need to have a bath.....
I agree. Also, docs do not recommend children with eczema get bathed daily but, surely you would bathe them before they were stinky. I would think this is more than a daily bath issue. I don't bath my kids daily and they don't come close to stinking. I would think for kids to be stinky it would have to be closer to a week without one.To be honest I don't think that is something that I would put into any policy or handbook...'
I would just have a heart to heart with the parents and let them know that the kids really need to have a bath.....
Dragonfly 07:51 AM 08-01-2013
I've had this problem before, also. When my own kids were babies/toddlers I bathed them every other day and they never smelled. So. I'm guessing by the time a little one smells badly, it's been several days since they had a bath. I've bathed DC babies myself when it is so bad no one wanted to hold them : ( I'm definetly putting something in my new handbook about kids being brought CLEAN to day care.
sally 07:52 AM 08-01-2013
I had this problem with one of my dcks. She had some medical issues and had a pic line in her arm at first then her chest. She could not be submerged in water so parents had to do sponge baths. They got very lax with them and after a while dcg was showing up with ring around the collar and she got stinky. I had to have quite a few chats after I couldn't take being within a few feet of her. Its pretty bad when you have to tell mom and dad to bath their child
hoopinglady 08:05 AM 08-01-2013
i had this issue before. the whole family 3 kids and parents stunk of urine. the school ager still had "accidents". I figured the beds and furniture were not cleaned properly. The clothing stunk so badly that even when I washed it here it take several washings to get the smell out AND would get into the rest of the laundry, so I had to stop. Baths would not have helped...I'm sure their whole home smelled this way.
I never said anything but it was miserable...for nearly 3 years.
I wouldn't deal with it again, I'd term. For sure. I couldn't have asked them to change their entire lifestyle if they were clearly willing to live that way.
*shudder*
I never said anything but it was miserable...for nearly 3 years.
I wouldn't deal with it again, I'd term. For sure. I couldn't have asked them to change their entire lifestyle if they were clearly willing to live that way.
*shudder*
Play Care 09:04 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by hoopinglady:
i had this issue before. the whole family 3 kids and parents stunk of urine. the school ager still had "accidents". I figured the beds and furniture were not cleaned properly. The clothing stunk so badly that even when I washed it here it take several washings to get the smell out AND would get into the rest of the laundry, so I had to stop. Baths would not have helped...I'm sure their whole home smelled this way.
I never said anything but it was miserable...for nearly 3 years.
I wouldn't deal with it again, I'd term. For sure. I couldn't have asked them to change their entire lifestyle if they were clearly willing to live that way.
*shudder*
I've been told that a strong urine smell can indicate there is crystal meth being made in the home.i had this issue before. the whole family 3 kids and parents stunk of urine. the school ager still had "accidents". I figured the beds and furniture were not cleaned properly. The clothing stunk so badly that even when I washed it here it take several washings to get the smell out AND would get into the rest of the laundry, so I had to stop. Baths would not have helped...I'm sure their whole home smelled this way.
I never said anything but it was miserable...for nearly 3 years.
I wouldn't deal with it again, I'd term. For sure. I couldn't have asked them to change their entire lifestyle if they were clearly willing to live that way.
*shudder*
LaLa1923 09:32 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
I agree. Also, docs do not recommend children with eczema get bathed daily but, surely you would bathe them before they were stinky. I would think this is more than a daily bath issue. I don't bath my kids daily and they don't come close to stinking. I would think for kids to be stinky it would have to be closer to a week without one.
We play hard every day. I just bathed them Tuesday night and the reek now. So yes, after one day. My son has eczema and he takes a bath every day. Don't you bathe every day?I agree. Also, docs do not recommend children with eczema get bathed daily but, surely you would bathe them before they were stinky. I would think this is more than a daily bath issue. I don't bath my kids daily and they don't come close to stinking. I would think for kids to be stinky it would have to be closer to a week without one.
Scout 10:06 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by LaLa1923:
We play hard every day. I just bathed them Tuesday night and the reek now. So yes, after one day. My son has eczema and he takes a bath every day. Don't you bathe every day?
Yes, I do bath daily but, I have also hit puberty so there are more issues that could make me stinky as compared to a 5 yo and a 2 yo. I never said my kids are stinkyWe play hard every day. I just bathed them Tuesday night and the reek now. So yes, after one day. My son has eczema and he takes a bath every day. Don't you bathe every day?
I simply said that I don't bath them daily. I do not think on a normal day it is needed. They are clean, their hands and faces are washed. And my ped recommends not bathing them daily if it is not needed because of eczema. I do bath them when needed, if it happens to be two days in a row I do, if not I will wait a day.
Blackcat31 10:14 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
Yes, I do bath daily but, I have also hit puberty so there are more issues that could make me stinky as compared to a 5 yo and a 2 yo. I never said my kids are stinky I simply said that I don't bath them daily. I do not think on a normal day it is needed. They are clean, their hands and faces are washed. And my ped recommends not bathing them daily if it is not needed because of eczema. I do bath them when needed, if it happens to be two days in a row I do, if not I will wait a day.
I have eczema myself. Yes, I do bath daily but, I have also hit puberty so there are more issues that could make me stinky as compared to a 5 yo and a 2 yo. I never said my kids are stinky
I simply said that I don't bath them daily. I do not think on a normal day it is needed. They are clean, their hands and faces are washed. And my ped recommends not bathing them daily if it is not needed because of eczema. I do bath them when needed, if it happens to be two days in a row I do, if not I will wait a day.My doctor has ALWAYS suggested limited bathing or contact with water. It absolutely can make it much worse, especially if the climate/air is already on the dry side.
It depends on the season.
I have several littles in care that also have it and they too are on a limited bathing schedule.
daycarediva 10:40 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by Scout:
Yes, I do bath daily but, I have also hit puberty so there are more issues that could make me stinky as compared to a 5 yo and a 2 yo. I never said my kids are stinky I simply said that I don't bath them daily. I do not think on a normal day it is needed. They are clean, their hands and faces are washed. And my ped recommends not bathing them daily if it is not needed because of eczema. I do bath them when needed, if it happens to be two days in a row I do, if not I will wait a day.
I CANNOT bathe my almost 8yo daily, he bathes every other night and only uses a SUPER mild soap. He is never stinky though. His eczema is awful, if he bathes daily it gets so bad his skin cracks and bleeds. Yes, I do bath daily but, I have also hit puberty so there are more issues that could make me stinky as compared to a 5 yo and a 2 yo. I never said my kids are stinky
I simply said that I don't bath them daily. I do not think on a normal day it is needed. They are clean, their hands and faces are washed. And my ped recommends not bathing them daily if it is not needed because of eczema. I do bath them when needed, if it happens to be two days in a row I do, if not I will wait a day.
The other kids get bathed daily.On Mondays I do 'Monday manicures' (and pedicures) and clean ears, too.
but that's the extent I let it get to. I would/will make comments to parents about things like "We played in the dirt today, Joey is super stinky and is going to really need a good bath tonight!" and then comment about how clean/not clean Joey IS in the morning.
EntropyControlSpecialist 10:19 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by LaLa1923:
We play hard every day. I just bathed them Tuesday night and the reek now. So yes, after one day. My son has eczema and he takes a bath every day. Don't you bathe every day?
I don't bathe everyday and I do not stink (underarms and privates are washed, but I do not get in the shower/bath daily). It's unhealthy for your skin. I would be extremely put off by a provider insisting that a child be bathed daily in their Parent Handbook. Not that you'd ever know that my child wasn't bathed daily...but...We play hard every day. I just bathed them Tuesday night and the reek now. So yes, after one day. My son has eczema and he takes a bath every day. Don't you bathe every day?
I would put in there that they must be CLEAN. Clean means smelling nice and appearing clean. It isn't typical for a child to smell stinky after 1 day so I WOULD talk to them about it. This has to do with one or two families, not every child in the world.
MrsSteinel'sHouse 10:45 AM 08-01-2013
OK I do not bathe every day especially in the winter! I didn't bathe my kidos when they were young every day either. I know my parents don't bathe their kids every night either, especially in the winter. I do expect that they are reasonably clean.
I once had a little girl that stunk! Smelled like urine. Mom swore she bathed her every night. Finally told mom she must take her to the doctor. She did. She had a piece of macaroni stuck up her nose and that is what was causing the stink!! Who knew. So yes, if it is continual I would wonder medical. Ah memories of smelly girl....
I once had a little girl that stunk! Smelled like urine. Mom swore she bathed her every night. Finally told mom she must take her to the doctor. She did. She had a piece of macaroni stuck up her nose and that is what was causing the stink!! Who knew. So yes, if it is continual I would wonder medical. Ah memories of smelly girl....
JoseyJo 01:19 PM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by LaLa1923:
We play hard every day. I just bathed them Tuesday night and the reek now. So yes, after one day. My son has eczema and he takes a bath every day. Don't you bathe every day?
Some people w/ eczema cannot bathe everyday- I am glad your son can! My husband cannot.We play hard every day. I just bathed them Tuesday night and the reek now. So yes, after one day. My son has eczema and he takes a bath every day. Don't you bathe every day?
daycare 01:22 PM 08-01-2013
my son also has eczema.....we sponge bath in between regular baths......
I have to be very careful during the winter months especially, it seems to act up then more than any other time.....
I have to be very careful during the winter months especially, it seems to act up then more than any other time.....
Blackcat31 07:30 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
To be honest I don't think that is something that I would put into any policy or handbook...'
I would just have a heart to heart with the parents and let them know that the kids really need to have a bath.....
That is something I COULDN'T put in my handbook. We are NOT allowed to dictate to parents things like that. Families all have different bathing customs/traditions and NOT all cultures believe in bathing daily. To be honest I don't think that is something that I would put into any policy or handbook...'
I would just have a heart to heart with the parents and let them know that the kids really need to have a bath.....
I personally feel it would be sort of intrusive and kind of outside the boundaries of what I have a right to be involved in and not be involved in....kwim?
I guess if it were me and a family smelled badly enough that it bothered ME, I would probably just say they weren't a good fit for my program and move along....
If it were something that recently started to happen and they weren't always that way, I MIGHT talk with the family about it depending on my relationship with them.
LaLa1923 09:34 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
That is something I COULDN'T put in my handbook. We are NOT allowed to dictate to parents things like that. Families all have different bathing customs/traditions and NOT all cultures believe in bathing daily.
I personally feel it would be sort of intrusive and kind of outside the boundaries of what I have a right to be involved in and not be involved in....kwim?
I guess if it were me and a family smelled badly enough that it bothered ME, I would probably just say they weren't a good fit for my program and move along....
If it were something that recently started to happen and they weren't always that way, I MIGHT talk with the family about it depending on my relationship with them.
That is something I COULDN'T put in my handbook. We are NOT allowed to dictate to parents things like that. Families all have different bathing customs/traditions and NOT all cultures believe in bathing daily.
I personally feel it would be sort of intrusive and kind of outside the boundaries of what I have a right to be involved in and not be involved in....kwim?
I guess if it were me and a family smelled badly enough that it bothered ME, I would probably just say they weren't a good fit for my program and move along....
If it were something that recently started to happen and they weren't always that way, I MIGHT talk with the family about it depending on my relationship with them.
Good point!! I will chat with dad.
Cradle2crayons 07:23 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by LaLa1923:
I'm really considering making it a requirement that parents bathe their kids every night. Also, that if they have offensive orders they can be sent home. This isn't to hurt feelings but I have three kids that do not get baths every night and they reek. I cannot stand it..
Thoughts??
I have a section in my handbook that gives our daily schedule. Under that it says children must be brought to daycare clean, fed (if they arrive after scheduled meal time), in clean appropriate for the weather clothes and shoes that fits, in a clean diaper (if applicable) or care can not be provided for that day.I'm really considering making it a requirement that parents bathe their kids every night. Also, that if they have offensive orders they can be sent home. This isn't to hurt feelings but I have three kids that do not get baths every night and they reek. I cannot stand it..
Thoughts??
daycare 07:27 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
I have a section in my handbook that gives our daily schedule. Under that it says children must be brought to daycare clean, fed (if they arrive after scheduled meal time), in clean appropriate for the weather clothes and shoes that fits, in a clean diaper (if applicable) or care can not be provided for that day.
I also have that in my policies, but from what I understood, she is saying that she wants to add a section that says you need to bathe your kids daily..........I have a section in my handbook that gives our daily schedule. Under that it says children must be brought to daycare clean, fed (if they arrive after scheduled meal time), in clean appropriate for the weather clothes and shoes that fits, in a clean diaper (if applicable) or care can not be provided for that day.
Play Care 07:29 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
I have a section in my handbook that gives our daily schedule. Under that it says children must be brought to daycare clean, fed (if they arrive after scheduled meal time), in clean appropriate for the weather clothes and shoes that fits, in a clean diaper (if applicable) or care can not be provided for that day.
I have this in mine as well. If a particular child smelled badly I would bring it up to the parents. Sometimes body odors can signal a health issue so I might approach it from the angle (even if I knew darn well the real reason) "I've noticed lately that Stevie seems to have a strange body odor. Have you noticed this at home? I am concerned that this might be caused by a health issue so I wanted to let you know. If it keeps up, I will need a doctors note saying he has been seen and evaluated and in good health." I have a section in my handbook that gives our daily schedule. Under that it says children must be brought to daycare clean, fed (if they arrive after scheduled meal time), in clean appropriate for the weather clothes and shoes that fits, in a clean diaper (if applicable) or care can not be provided for that day.
Now this might be the kick in the pants the parents need to make sure little Stevie is getting his nightly bath, cause parents who "forget" to bathe their kids are probably not the ones who want to bring them to the doctor either.
LaLa1923 09:34 AM 08-01-2013
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
I have a section in my handbook that gives our daily schedule. Under that it says children must be brought to daycare clean, fed (if they arrive after scheduled meal time), in clean appropriate for the weather clothes and shoes that fits, in a clean diaper (if applicable) or care can not be provided for that day.
I have a section in my handbook that gives our daily schedule. Under that it says children must be brought to daycare clean, fed (if they arrive after scheduled meal time), in clean appropriate for the weather clothes and shoes that fits, in a clean diaper (if applicable) or care can not be provided for that day.
I will do this!! thank you!!