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Old 06-23-2020, 02:15 PM
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I do this as well. Iím often commenting and praising the kids who follow the rules rather than getting after those who do little things that are wrong. If a couple of kids are messing around with each other during circle time I might say something like ďlook how nice and quiet John and Suzie are being. Sitting like big kids, voices off, listening to Ms. Ceri.Ē Usually everyone else follows suit.
Itís the aggressive behaviors that are hard to deal with. When he gets upset or frustrated he becomes aggressive towards others. Iíve tried telling him that itís okay to be upset or angry but that he needs to just take some deep breaths and calm down before reacting. Does kicking another child really help even if the other child grabbed his green crayon? How else could he have solved the problem.
Aggressive behaviors are common for littles with limited verbal skills and those with delayed development but at 4 it is unacceptable for him to behave that way.

The FIRST time he was aggressive towards another child, he would be immediately separated from the others (except when he is directly by my side). He would shadow me all day and would need to earn back his right to play with the others.

A documented report would be sent home to the parents as well. I would outline the possibility of termination should the behavior continue.

The FIRST time he hit/kicked or became aggressive towards myself or another adult, he would be sent home immediately. Three times and he would be terminated.

Aggressive and violent behavior is not something I am willing to tolerate nor correct without the lead from a parent. I will support and assist the parent in teaching their child to use alternate methods of expression but I will not do it alone nor will I shoulder the bulk of the responsibility.

I am sorry you are dealing with this issue.
It's one of the toughest we deal with in group care but it's also one that isn't taken seriously enough by adults IMPO and that is part of the issue as well.
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Old 06-24-2020, 03:38 AM
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Every year, I have families that are gone for several days because they take a vacation.

But as soon as MY family decides to take a vacation, it's annoyed looks, comments, and awkwardness. Like I'm not allowed to have a life outside of daycare because it's an inconvenience to them.

Like it's somehow my fault that they don't have back-up care.


Why is it a double standard?

That used to frustrate me too. The last several years I had great understanding families. But before that, if I wasn't available all the time they let me know with all their whining and 'oh no, whatever shall *I* do?' I got to the point where I didn't care, wasn't my problem.

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Old 07-01-2020, 06:52 AM
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Dcm forgot to put underwear...on her 4 year old...who is also wearing a dress
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Old 07-01-2020, 07:55 AM
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Dcm forgot to put underwear...on her 4 year old...who is also wearing a dress
Um okay... It's kinda funny...

I try to persuade parents to not send their child in dresses but if they do, they are required to wear shorts underneath so even if they did forget underwear, they'd still need shorts on.

I think I'd call that parent and request a change of clothing unless child has spares at your house.
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Old 07-01-2020, 07:58 AM
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Um okay... It's kinda funny...

I try to persuade parents to not send their child in dresses but if they do, they are required to wear shorts underneath so even if they did forget underwear, they'd still need shorts on.

I think I'd call that parent and request a change of clothing unless child has spares at your house.
Thankfully, the child has a spare change of clothes here. Dcm realized she forgot to put on underwear when she dropped off.

Dcm: "Well, at least I remembered to feed her."
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Dcm forgot to put underwear...on her 4 year old...who is also wearing a dress
OMG! And I tend to get a little mad when a parent sends a girl in a dress without shorts underneath.

My vent for the day. Why do some parents think itís great for 4 year old Johnny to be able to recite his ABCs, name all the dinosaurs, and know that the presidents name is Donald Trump yet not how to put on his own Velcro shoes, peel a banana, or wipe his bottom. Seriously. How about teaching some basic self help skills.
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We have that exact same problem at our center in terms of little girls wearing dresses and no shorts underneath or their shorts being to short. I wish we had a dress code or something saying what they can and can't wear!!!!
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My vent for the day. Why do some parents think itís great for 4 year old Johnny to be able to recite his ABCs, name all the dinosaurs, and know that the presidents name is Donald Trump yet not how to put on his own Velcro shoes, peel a banana, or wipe his bottom. Seriously. How about teaching some basic self help skills.
OMG! I hear you! I bite my tongue when dcp brags how smart dcb is compared to other kids his age. It makes it hard for me to give good reports about him because I know it will go strait to dcpís head, but when I mention Dcb needs to work on some self-help skills they donít even acknowledge. 🤷*♀️
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OMG! And I tend to get a little mad when a parent sends a girl in a dress without shorts underneath.

My vent for the day. Why do some parents think itís great for 4 year old Johnny to be able to recite his ABCs, name all the dinosaurs, and know that the presidents name is Donald Trump yet not how to put on his own Velcro shoes, peel a banana, or wipe his bottom. Seriously. How about teaching some basic self help skills.
Where's the love button when you need it??!!

And it's so true. Sadly. My nephew was smart as a whip at age 4 but momma was still spoon feeding him.
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Old 07-09-2020, 05:42 AM
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We have that exact same problem at our center in terms of little girls wearing dresses and no shorts underneath or their shorts being to short. I wish we had a dress code or something saying what they can and can't wear!!!!
Ugh, I have only one dcg and she wears tight shorts, that are so tight that it causes her diaper to bulge off to one size or give her a camel toe bulge when she pees. Then when she has a dress, her shorts are loose.
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OMG! And I tend to get a little mad when a parent sends a girl in a dress without shorts underneath.

My vent for the day. Why do some parents think itís great for 4 year old Johnny to be able to recite his ABCs, name all the dinosaurs, and know that the presidents name is Donald Trump yet not how to put on his own Velcro shoes, peel a banana, or wipe his bottom. Seriously. How about teaching some basic self help skills.
I hear ya!

Way back when, we had a 4 year old whose mother told me that I had to spoon feed him lunch otherwise he won't eat

Long story short, at lunch that day, I told him that either he eats or he can wait until lunch was over so that he and his new friends can all play. I was NOT going to feed him.

He sat there a good 5 mins just staring at his plate. Then he started eating. And he ate it all.

Mom came and first thing she asked was how did lunch go. I told her that it was fine and he fed himself. She went I explained to her that I didn't have time to feed a child that was perfectly capable of doing it himself.

He did the same thing (where he just sat for a few mins) for the next few days. When he realized that I wasn't going to do it at all, he eventually just starting eating when everyone else did
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Old 07-09-2020, 10:43 AM
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We have that exact same problem at our center in terms of little girls wearing dresses and no shorts underneath or their shorts being to short. I wish we had a dress code or something saying what they can and can't wear!!!!
I'd rather have the dresses worn than these skinny jeans for boys and girls that they can't pull up after pottying. Or the shorts that are made out of the same material and can't be pulled up without help. Some of these kids have to be melted to get into such kinds of clothes.
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Angry Parents ugh!

Had a mom tell me her kid is wearing new shoes and not to let her get them dirty not a thing on them. Pure whit shoes! WTH.
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Old 07-11-2020, 09:44 AM
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Had a parent post on FB that they were at a gun range and got a new gun for protection. Hope they don't bring it into the daycare when they pick up their children.
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Old 07-11-2020, 03:50 PM
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Had a parent post on FB that they were at a gun range and got a new gun for protection. Hope they don't bring it into the daycare when they pick up their children.
Why would you think theyíre going to bring it into the child care?

The vast majority of gun owners are safe responsible adults.

In most states in order to get a concealed carry permit (which is required to buy a hand gun) you are required to take a class that educates you in regards to when and where you may carry your weapon.

I wouldnít automatically assume theyíre going to come into the center waving their gun around.
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Why would you think theyíre going to bring it into the child care?

The vast majority of gun owners are safe responsible adults.

In most states in order to get a concealed carry permit (which is required to buy a hand gun) you are required to take a class that educates you in regards to when and where you may carry your weapon.

I wouldnít automatically assume theyíre going to come into the center waving their gun around.
🙂 I had a parent tell me that he had just got licensed to sell and make guns, of he wanted to make them.
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Old 07-12-2020, 12:10 PM
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There's to many crazy folks today and it makes me think the worse. We had a parent once have their personal gun on them while they came to sign their child up for the after school program and if one of the kids had gotten a hold of it, it wouldn't have been good
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Old 07-12-2020, 03:14 PM
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Glad I donít live in your area... Iíd feel bad that the worst is automatically assumed or that Iím crazy simply because I carry a gun.
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Iím in Texas....I know more people who carry than not. As BC stated, people who are legally carrying have been through a licensing process. Honestly, I feel safer knowing responsible gun owners are around me in public places.
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Newborn sibling of a current dck starting soon. Dcm complains all the time about how difficult and fussy baby is.

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A troublesome parent was upset that her kid had a rock thrown at them (after the child went and poked another child in the eye). She wanted the name of the child who had thrown the rock, going so far as to ask her barely 2 year old child who he poked (he didn't understand the question) after I denied her request TWICE.
She complained that its "difficult for her" when some people here tell her things and others don't. I wish I had been quick enough to say that "others breaking policy does not reflect on the fact that I will adhere to our policy to protect the identities of children and their families while in attendance at the center."
Instead I told her to take it up with managment. To make it worse her older child was there (smart, smart cookie) asking me why I wouldn't tell her mom who did it.
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Old 07-25-2020, 02:12 PM
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A troublesome parent was upset that her kid had a rock thrown at them (after the child went and poked another child in the eye). She wanted the name of the child who had thrown the rock, going so far as to ask her barely 2 year old child who he poked (he didn't understand the question) after I denied her request TWICE.
She complained that its "difficult for her" when some people here tell her things and others don't. I wish I had been quick enough to say that "others breaking policy does not reflect on the fact that I will adhere to our policy to protect the identities of children and their families while in attendance at the center."
Instead I told her to take it up with managment. To make it worse her older child was there (smart, smart cookie) asking me why I wouldn't tell her mom who did it.
I would've told the parent that if they've got a problem with the care and also have problems with the employees then they can find new care. I would also tell the older child in the parents presence that what happens at daycare stays at daycare and that the older child shouldn't listen to adult conversations and to keep their opinion to theirselves and their mouths shut!!!!!😠😠😠
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A troublesome parent was upset that her kid had a rock thrown at them (after the child went and poked another child in the eye). She wanted the name of the child who had thrown the rock, going so far as to ask her barely 2 year old child who he poked (he didn't understand the question) after I denied her request TWICE.
She complained that its "difficult for her" when some people here tell her things and others don't. I wish I had been quick enough to say that "others breaking policy does not reflect on the fact that I will adhere to our policy to protect the identities of children and their families while in attendance at the center."
Instead I told her to take it up with managment. To make it worse her older child was there (smart, smart cookie) asking me why I wouldn't tell her mom who did it.
I remember once when a 2, almost 3 year old got bit. The Director told the parent of the child who was bitten. She didn't name names. She just explained there was a fight and before the caregiver went over there (she was changing a diaper and couldn't get there fast enough) the child was bitten.

The mother was furious. She demanded to know who bit her son etc etc. Finally the Director told her that while SHE couldn't give the name of the child, if she wanted to ask her child, he could. The mother kept on asking but he wouldn't tell her. Probably because it was he himself who started all the BS and deserved to be bit

Just kidding! Well....he did start it....he just didn't finish it.
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I would've told the parent that if they've got a problem with the care and also have problems with the employees then they can find new care. I would also tell the older child in the parents presence that what happens at daycare stays at daycare and that the older child shouldn't listen to adult conversations and to keep their opinion to theirselves and their mouths shut!!!!!😠😠😠
If I had responded with such wording I would have been written up, guaranteed. Also, the child is four, quite smart and empathetic, why wouldn't she listen to adult conversation? That's an avenue for children to learn through.
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"This is age appropriate behavior for children that age. We have X safety measures in place to prevent future incidents. In addition, we did speak to your child about poking peers. I also did not disclose the name of your child to the other's parents."

Geeze, helicopter parents.
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Old 07-31-2020, 11:55 AM
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I may be old fashioned but children SHOULD NOT be allowed to listen to adult conversations because they don't need to know what adults talk about and they need to worry about being a child!!! What if they went home and told their parent what the child done in daycare and the next morning the parent wants to know what happened and if it involved her child? How would you respond?????
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I may be old fashioned but children SHOULD NOT be allowed to listen to adult conversations because they don't need to know what adults talk about and they need to worry about being a child!!! What if they went home and told their parent what the child done in daycare and the next morning the parent wants to know what happened and if it involved her child? How would you respond?????
I don't think it has anything to do with being old fashioned.

The children in my care over hear most everything I say to other parents/adults and most of it they already know via being present in care and seeing first hand who hit/bit/pushed who etc.

Most of those kids do go home and tell a parent Johnny hit Billy or Susie pushed Janie but who did what doesn't come from me. I do not tell parents which child hit/bit/pushed their child. This falls under confidentiality and it's discussed upon enrollment so ALL parents know I am not in the business of sharing info like that.

However, IF a parent did come back to care the next day all riled about about Johnny hitting their child, I would tell them the same thing I said above. Just because they have the information doesn't give them permission to do anything about it. If it became dramatic and the parent demanded I do something.... I would terminate that parent/family.

Problem solved.

The ideal solution to not wanting littles to overhear adult conversation is to have adult conversation where there are no little ears to overhear. This could be a phone call or a face to face meeting in a closed office or adult space where DCKs are not allowed.
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I may be old fashioned but children SHOULD NOT be allowed to listen to adult conversations because they don't need to know what adults talk about and they need to worry about being a child!!! What if they went home and told their parent what the child done in daycare and the next morning the parent wants to know what happened and if it involved her child? How would you respond?????
Also why is the responsibility the child's in this situation?

Wouldn't it be the ADULT'S responsibility to try not to discuss anything the child shouldn't overhear.

Adults need to worry about children being children and be the adult in the situation verses placing blame on the child.
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This is sad rather than a true vent but...

On Friday a 4yo child asked me if policemen were bad. I told him no, that police officers are good and help to keep us safe. He then said he heard on TV that police were bad.

Makes me sad what kids hear these days.
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My cousin with dh and two sons (6 and 8) went to Panama city last week and have come back with covid..........are ok but have it. My aunt (this cousin's mom) whom has lung/breathing issues now we think has it but has to be tested???

My niece's father and mother in law have it....a medium case for both.

My county is seeing a surge with infections, not necessarily deaths, but covid infections. School now starts Monday/10th but now have mandated masks for everyone and I give it two weeks.

Again, I'm not scared, per se, but still have major concerns. I am the primary bread winner in my family. Our grants that I have used end in August; so YES I AM CONCERNED FOR MY LIVELIHOOD....getting close to home/community again. Yes; I CAN make everyone pay and I CAN run my business as I want but I still have to have families STAY with me for this to happen....lots of variables affecting EVERY family so they have to do what is best for them as well.
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There's a girl I graduated high school with that tested positive for covid and is in a bigger hospital on a vent and ECMO.
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