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Little Star75 10:52 AM 03-27-2013
So.... With all the advice from most providers and blackcat I decided to enforce my sick policy. Honestly.... I was having a backbone issue lol anyways .....
Today one parent walks in at 6:30 saying of dcb was up all night and has some fever right now (btw he got his shots yesterday) so I look at her and say "I'm sorry but I can't accept him" she looks at me and says "please I can't miss work" sorry I can't I have to follow my policies and its against licensing regulations. So she left and was upset.
Btw she is my relatives roommate and guess what??? My relative is stuck watching him
my relative calls me this morning upset too asking me what was wrong with him and why I sent him home .... Yada yada.... So I told her you more than anyone else knows the reasons when u had ur baby with a licensed provider and know how strict these policies are, and she said NOTHiNG
Thought I shared
Today one parent walks in at 6:30 saying of dcb was up all night and has some fever right now (btw he got his shots yesterday) so I look at her and say "I'm sorry but I can't accept him" she looks at me and says "please I can't miss work" sorry I can't I have to follow my policies and its against licensing regulations. So she left and was upset.
Btw she is my relatives roommate and guess what??? My relative is stuck watching him
my relative calls me this morning upset too asking me what was wrong with him and why I sent him home .... Yada yada.... So I told her you more than anyone else knows the reasons when u had ur baby with a licensed provider and know how strict these policies are, and she said NOTHiNGThought I shared
butterfly 10:55 AM 03-27-2013
Good job, LittleStar!! Proud of you!! 
Heidi 10:56 AM 03-27-2013
Good job!
Luna 10:57 AM 03-27-2013
She will get over it, and one day she will appreciate knowing you won't allow another sick child around hers.
daycarediva 10:57 AM 03-27-2013
growing a backbone feels GREAT! It also gets easier each and every time you use it.
Blackcat31 11:00 AM 03-27-2013
Originally Posted by Little Star75:
So.... With all the advice from most providers and blackcat I decided to enforce my sick policy. Honestly.... I was having a backbone issue lol anyways .....
Today one parent walks in at 6:30 saying of dcb was up all night and has some fever right now (btw he got his shots yesterday) so I look at her and say "I'm sorry but I can't accept him" she looks at me and says "please I can't miss work" sorry I can't I have to follow my policies and its against licensing regulations. So she left and was upset.
Btw she is my relatives roommate and guess what??? My relative is stuck watching him my relative calls me this morning upset too asking me what was wrong with him and why I sent him home .... Yada yada.... So I told her you more than anyone else knows the reasons when u had ur baby with a licensed provider and know how strict these policies are, and she said NOTHiNG
Thought I shared
WAY TO GO!!!!!!! So.... With all the advice from most providers and blackcat I decided to enforce my sick policy. Honestly.... I was having a backbone issue lol anyways .....
Today one parent walks in at 6:30 saying of dcb was up all night and has some fever right now (btw he got his shots yesterday) so I look at her and say "I'm sorry but I can't accept him" she looks at me and says "please I can't miss work" sorry I can't I have to follow my policies and its against licensing regulations. So she left and was upset.
Btw she is my relatives roommate and guess what??? My relative is stuck watching him
my relative calls me this morning upset too asking me what was wrong with him and why I sent him home .... Yada yada.... So I told her you more than anyone else knows the reasons when u had ur baby with a licensed provider and know how strict these policies are, and she said NOTHiNGThought I shared
It is hard to enforce your policies but luckily MOST parents "get it" the first time you have to do it and are never trouble again.
I am so happy that you stood up for yourself! You shouldn't have to be stuck watching a child who isn't feeling well.
Sounds like DCM needs to make sure she has back up care or a plan of action for when HER child gets sick.
EntropyControlSpecialist 11:00 AM 03-27-2013
Great job!
That child will be much happier, too, being at home!
That child will be much happier, too, being at home!
mema 11:03 AM 03-27-2013
cheerfuldom 11:12 AM 03-27-2013
Parents need to have a back up plan and I always discuss that at my interviews. I will not watch ill children and do not appreciate parents putting guilt trips on me. Its HER child, HER problem.
Little Star75 11:13 AM 03-27-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
WAY TO GO!!!!!!!
It is hard to enforce your policies but luckily MOST parents "get it" the first time you have to do it and are never trouble again.
I am so happy that you stood up for yourself! You shouldn't have to be stuck watching a child who isn't feeling well.
Sounds like DCM needs to make sure she has back up care or a plan of action for when HER child gets sick.
Yes she definitely needs back up, her employer made a comment to her too about her child being sick a lot. Well I'm sorry but I'm not going to be stuck here watching a sick child. Poor thing had green mucus, fever, and throwing up. WAY TO GO!!!!!!!
It is hard to enforce your policies but luckily MOST parents "get it" the first time you have to do it and are never trouble again.
I am so happy that you stood up for yourself! You shouldn't have to be stuck watching a child who isn't feeling well.
Sounds like DCM needs to make sure she has back up care or a plan of action for when HER child gets sick.
Thanks again for your advice I just hope I don't lose any parents
countrymom 11:19 AM 03-27-2013
good for you. If she is sick alot, then the mother needs to look into why the child is sick. Its amazing how many kids don't even go to the dr's and the illness lingers on forever. Even their houses can make them sick, I have one family who has a dog that they keep in their area where the furnace is, well the kids are always sick so I tell the mom that she needs to clean the furnace filter, well apparently the filter was full of dog hair.
AmyKidsCo 11:46 AM 03-27-2013
Good for you!
I soften it a little by saying "If it were another child, you wouldn't want them here getting yours sick..." Sometimes it helps them see it from another perspective.
I soften it a little by saying "If it were another child, you wouldn't want them here getting yours sick..." Sometimes it helps them see it from another perspective.
Little Star75 12:05 PM 03-27-2013
Thank you all for your responses
Blackcat31 12:09 PM 03-27-2013
Originally Posted by Little Star75:
Thanks again for your advice I just hope I don't lose any parents
Even if you do lose families....it is still worth standing up for yourself and not letting parents walk on you. Thanks again for your advice I just hope I don't lose any parents
You just have to really know AND believe that your self-worth, time and sanity are worth far more than clients who disrespect you and/or treat you like dirt.
Little Star75 12:10 PM 03-27-2013
Originally Posted by countrymom:
good for you. If she is sick alot, then the mother needs to look into why the child is sick. Its amazing how many kids don't even go to the dr's and the illness lingers on forever. Even their houses can make them sick, I have one family who has a dog that they keep in their area where the furnace is, well the kids are always sick so I tell the mom that she needs to clean the furnace filter, well apparently the filter was full of dog hair.
There's the problem.... She don't take him to the doctor. When I enrolled him couple of weeks ago I knew he was missing couple shots so I told her I would give her 2 weeks to get them done, she finally did yesterday, this is the reason why child got fever. However, he is always catching something if its not pink eye, is cough, fever, constantly runny nose etc . I personally can't give her any preference just because she's my relatives BFF YKWIMgood for you. If she is sick alot, then the mother needs to look into why the child is sick. Its amazing how many kids don't even go to the dr's and the illness lingers on forever. Even their houses can make them sick, I have one family who has a dog that they keep in their area where the furnace is, well the kids are always sick so I tell the mom that she needs to clean the furnace filter, well apparently the filter was full of dog hair.
Little Star75 12:11 PM 03-27-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Even if you do lose families....it is still worth standing up for yourself and not letting parents walk on you.
You just have to really know AND believe that your self-worth, time and sanity are worth far more than clients who disrespect you and/or treat you like dirt.
So true, and that's exactly what was going on but I'm happy I had the b@//$ to do it. Thanks again! Even if you do lose families....it is still worth standing up for yourself and not letting parents walk on you.
You just have to really know AND believe that your self-worth, time and sanity are worth far more than clients who disrespect you and/or treat you like dirt.
Brooksie 12:20 PM 03-27-2013
Congrats on finding your backbone!! And see? how hard was it to find alternate care. Sure, no one really wants to be stuck last minute babysitting a sick child, but it is possible to find! There's no reason why YOU should go against regulation and policy to be that person. Go you!!!
And see? how hard was it to find alternate care. Sure, no one really wants to be stuck last minute babysitting a sick child, but it is possible to find! There's no reason why YOU should go against regulation and policy to be that person. Go you!!!
MarinaVanessa 12:25 PM 03-27-2013
Originally Posted by daycarediva:
growing a backbone feels GREAT! It also gets easier each and every time you use it.
This is so true ... it only gets easier and easier. It's scary at first but over time you will see that making sure that you are happy is more than enough reasons to stick to your policies. growing a backbone feels GREAT! It also gets easier each and every time you use it.
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Even if you do lose families....it is still worth standing up for yourself and not letting parents walk on you.
You just have to really know AND believe that your self-worth, time and sanity are worth far more than clients who disrespect you and/or treat you like dirt.
This is also VERY true! If something bothers you, change it. You are always worth the effort. If you lose a client over policies that they are more than aware of when you try to enforce them then honestly ask yourself ... is that the type of client/provider relationship you want?Even if you do lose families....it is still worth standing up for yourself and not letting parents walk on you.
You just have to really know AND believe that your self-worth, time and sanity are worth far more than clients who disrespect you and/or treat you like dirt.
Crystal 01:06 PM 03-27-2013
Was the child truly sick or was the fever from getting immunizations?
Holiday Park 07:33 AM 03-28-2013
why does it matter? If the child has a fever then in my opinion they are sick even it means shot made them sick.
Little Star75 08:06 AM 03-28-2013
Originally Posted by Holiday Park:
why does it matter? If the child has a fever then in my opinion they are sick even it means shot made them sick.
Thank you, fever is fever and child cannot attend.why does it matter? If the child has a fever then in my opinion they are sick even it means shot made them sick.
littlemissmuffet 08:13 AM 03-28-2013
Originally Posted by Crystal:
Was the child truly sick or was the fever from getting immunizations?
What does it matter? I don't send kids home with fevers simply because they are contagious. Truth be told, it's more because I don't want to deal with a whiney, cranky kid. I've yet to meet a kid who had a fever that wasn't whiney/cranky! Was the child truly sick or was the fever from getting immunizations?
OP, I have it in my policies that I do not allow a child who has just been immunized into my home until 24 hours after the immunization. If the child shows any ill affects, it's another 24 hours. Might want to be something for you to look into adding as well.
Country Kids 08:19 AM 03-28-2013
Originally Posted by littlemissmuffet:
What does it matter? I don't send kids home with fevers simply because they are contagious. Truth be told, it's more because I don't want to deal with a whiney, cranky kid. I've yet to meet a kid who had a fever that wasn't whiney/cranky!
OP, I have it in my policies that I do not allow a child who has just been immunized into my home until 24 hours after the immunization. If the child shows any ill affects, it's another 24 hours. Might want to be something for you to look into adding as well.
What if your parents do not tell you the child is getting an immunization? I never have a child leave early for Dr. appts. but they are all up to date on the shots. Maybe somehow mine all schedule theirs for Fridays but still trying to figure out how they are upto date and never leave early. All the Drs here close at 5:00. The kids never even talk about getting shots either! One of the childcare mysteries for me-What does it matter? I don't send kids home with fevers simply because they are contagious. Truth be told, it's more because I don't want to deal with a whiney, cranky kid. I've yet to meet a kid who had a fever that wasn't whiney/cranky!
OP, I have it in my policies that I do not allow a child who has just been immunized into my home until 24 hours after the immunization. If the child shows any ill affects, it's another 24 hours. Might want to be something for you to look into adding as well.
Crystal 08:27 AM 03-28-2013
Originally Posted by Holiday Park:
why does it matter? If the child has a fever then in my opinion they are sick even it means shot made them sick.
It may not matter to the OP. UNTIL she has a parent pull her kid for excluding him when he is not actually sick but is having a normal reaction to immunizations. Every kid I have ever known has gotten a slightly elevated temp when they get shots. SOOOO.....I just asked so I could let the OP know if a parent is getting upset because they are missing A LOT of work, she may want to rethink the policy when it comes to imms so she doesn't lose clients. why does it matter? If the child has a fever then in my opinion they are sick even it means shot made them sick.
Not sure WHY you seem upset with my question. It was pretty basic.
momofboys 08:57 AM 03-28-2013
Fever is a fever, I exclude for symptoms not WHY they have symptoms
littlemissmuffet 09:05 AM 03-28-2013
Originally Posted by Country Kids:
What if your parents do not tell you the child is getting an immunization? I never have a child leave early for Dr. appts. but they are all up to date on the shots. Maybe somehow mine all schedule theirs for Fridays but still trying to figure out how they are upto date and never leave early. All the Drs here close at 5:00. The kids never even talk about getting shots either! One of the childcare mysteries for me-
When my kiddos hit the different ages to be getting vaccinated, I inquire about when the parent plans to take them - and remind them about my policy. What if your parents do not tell you the child is getting an immunization? I never have a child leave early for Dr. appts. but they are all up to date on the shots. Maybe somehow mine all schedule theirs for Fridays but still trying to figure out how they are upto date and never leave early. All the Drs here close at 5:00. The kids never even talk about getting shots either! One of the childcare mysteries for me-
Our immunization clinics are open until 9pm. Also all my parents have plenty of sick/personal/vacation time to miss work (and do for their kid's doc appointments, etc) so I don't worry about it.
All my parents know if they are caught lying to me, drop off after shots, drop off a medicated kid, etc they will be termed immediately. I ALWAYS find out, and I ALWAYS term.
It's a non-issue here.
Blackcat31 09:07 AM 03-28-2013
Originally Posted by Country Kids:
What if your parents do not tell you the child is getting an immunization?
My parents are required to give me updates on ALL the immunizations their child receives. This is a required licensing regulation. What if your parents do not tell you the child is getting an immunization?
If they brought me the immunization sheet back and the date on it was for a Wednesday and they were in care on Thursday, I would know they had their immunizations and didn't tell me.
That is against my policies and would mean immediate termination. Parents know this in ADVANCE so there really would not be a valid excuse.
In all the years I have behind me of doing child care, I had never really had a child in care that had a bad reaction to immunizations until a few years ago.
That ONE experience caused me to alter my policies on how I deal with immunizations.
Parents are fully aware upon enrollment what my policies are in this regard. If it doesn't work for them, then my program won't work for them.
Little Star75 09:28 AM 03-28-2013
Originally Posted by littlemissmuffet:
What does it matter? I don't send kids home with fevers simply because they are contagious. Truth be told, it's more because I don't want to deal with a whiney, cranky kid. I've yet to meet a kid who had a fever that wasn't whiney/cranky!
OP, I have it in my policies that I do not allow a child who has just been immunized into my home until 24 hours after the immunization. If the child shows any ill affects, it's another 24 hours. Might want to be something for you to look into adding as well.
Yes I'm in the process of updating my contract. I've only been open for 9 months and have learned a lot in this forum What does it matter? I don't send kids home with fevers simply because they are contagious. Truth be told, it's more because I don't want to deal with a whiney, cranky kid. I've yet to meet a kid who had a fever that wasn't whiney/cranky!
OP, I have it in my policies that I do not allow a child who has just been immunized into my home until 24 hours after the immunization. If the child shows any ill affects, it's another 24 hours. Might want to be something for you to look into adding as well.
. Thank you
Little Star75 09:34 AM 03-28-2013
Originally Posted by Crystal:
It may not matter to the OP. UNTIL she has a parent pull her kid for excluding him when he is not actually sick but is having a normal reaction to immunizations. Every kid I have ever known has gotten a slightly elevated temp when they get shots. SOOOO.....I just asked so I could let the OP know if a parent is getting upset because they are missing A LOT of work, she may want to rethink the policy when it comes to imms so she doesn't lose clients.
Not sure WHY you seem upset with my question. It was pretty basic.
In my case the dcb I sent home came in with a fever and runny nose. I understand some children don't have a reaction to immunizations but I rather not risk it. I tell parents of dck need immunizations they must scheduled them for a Friday so if the child happens to get sick dck can stay home.It may not matter to the OP. UNTIL she has a parent pull her kid for excluding him when he is not actually sick but is having a normal reaction to immunizations. Every kid I have ever known has gotten a slightly elevated temp when they get shots. SOOOO.....I just asked so I could let the OP know if a parent is getting upset because they are missing A LOT of work, she may want to rethink the policy when it comes to imms so she doesn't lose clients.
Not sure WHY you seem upset with my question. It was pretty basic.
Crystal 09:56 AM 03-28-2013
Originally Posted by Little Star75:
In my case the dcb I sent home came in with a fever and runny nose. I understand some children don't have a reaction to immunizations but I rather not risk it. I tell parents of dck need immunizations they must scheduled them for a Friday so if the child happens to get sick dck can stay home.
In my case the dcb I sent home came in with a fever and runny nose. I understand some children don't have a reaction to immunizations but I rather not risk it. I tell parents of dck need immunizations they must scheduled them for a Friday so if the child happens to get sick dck can stay home.
That's what I was asking. If he had other symptoms, he was sick.
I have the same policy.....immunizations at end of day or Friday, cannot come to daycare day of imms.
FWIW, I wasn't trying to be judgemental (which is what I THINK a couple of other posters were trying to imply
) I was just asking because I know that some parents will pull their kids if they have to miss too much work and if IMMS are the reason, well, sometimes it is in the provider's best interest to make an exception in an effort to not lose clients. I wouldn't want you to lose a client over something so small.
Little Star75 10:10 AM 03-28-2013
Originally Posted by Crystal:
That's what I was asking. If he had other symptoms, he was sick.
I have the same policy.....immunizations at end of day or Friday, cannot come to daycare day of imms.
FWIW, I wasn't trying to be judgemental (which is what I THINK a couple of other posters were trying to imply) I was just asking because I know that some parents will pull their kids if they have to miss too much work and if IMMS are the reason, well, sometimes it is in the provider's best interest to make an exception in an effort to not lose clients. I wouldn't want you to lose a client over something so small.
That was my concern, but the way blackcat said it made me see things different. It's worth standing up for myself and not let parents take advantage of me. That's what I was asking. If he had other symptoms, he was sick.
I have the same policy.....immunizations at end of day or Friday, cannot come to daycare day of imms.
FWIW, I wasn't trying to be judgemental (which is what I THINK a couple of other posters were trying to imply
) I was just asking because I know that some parents will pull their kids if they have to miss too much work and if IMMS are the reason, well, sometimes it is in the provider's best interest to make an exception in an effort to not lose clients. I wouldn't want you to lose a client over something so small.