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MarinaVanessa 09:21 AM 08-04-2014
So ... I'm pulling the trigger and terminating one of my families today. It's the family who's kids (1 1/2 DCG and 5yo DCB) always have runny noses (since January), who always forget to pay on time and just pay the late fee, who always forgets to give me a schedule and texts me at 6:55 am to let me know they are dropping off at 7:00 am, who's 1 1/2 yo child my 3yo DS suddenly started to bite (which stopped as soon as I separated DS from their 5yo DCB), who's 5yo constantly tries to control the other kids and then cries because they don't want to play with him, who's 5 yo constantly says "Can I play with you? Can I play with you? Can I play with you? Can I play with you? Can I play with you? Can I play with you? OR Can I have some water? Can I have some water? Can I have some water? Can I have some water? Can I have some water? Can I have some water? Can I have some water? Can I have some water?" as I'm pouring him a cup.
It's a conditional termination and I've given them 2 weeks notice ... two weeks before school starts
. I have to admit though, I did not give them a vague term letter and I did not mention anything "bad" in the term letter either. I even offered to keep watching the kids after the term date until either they found daycare or I filled the spots. I said that it was because I couldn't meet their new needs (which I can't), since they want to go from FT to PT and possibly 5 yo will go into after-school care but I don't know anything for sure since they only tell me anything if I ask.
Handing them their term letter when they drop off in about 15 minutes. Hand clammy, and I practiced out loud
. I hate this part of the job.
It's a conditional termination and I've given them 2 weeks notice ... two weeks before school starts
. I have to admit though, I did not give them a vague term letter and I did not mention anything "bad" in the term letter either. I even offered to keep watching the kids after the term date until either they found daycare or I filled the spots. I said that it was because I couldn't meet their new needs (which I can't), since they want to go from FT to PT and possibly 5 yo will go into after-school care but I don't know anything for sure since they only tell me anything if I ask. Handing them their term letter when they drop off in about 15 minutes. Hand clammy, and I practiced out loud
. I hate this part of the job.
Play Care 09:36 AM 08-04-2014
Good luck!!!
Shell 09:38 AM 08-04-2014
I know, I hate that part of the job, too. But, when it's the right decision, you will feel so much better when it's all over!
Naptime yet? 09:51 AM 08-04-2014
I hope it all works out. I wouldn't offer to watch them until they find new daycare or you fill the spots, I would just cut the cord and be done with it.
Keep us updated!
Keep us updated!
Blackcat31 09:54 AM 08-04-2014
Good luck MV!! Terms are hard!
You can do this....
You can do this....
sharlan 09:55 AM 08-04-2014
Good luck.
I think I would just let them go and move on.
I think I would just let them go and move on.
Josiegirl 09:56 AM 08-04-2014
How did it go? I hope without lots of drama for your sake.
MarinaVanessa 10:16 AM 08-04-2014
OMGosh, that has to be the absolute worst termination I have ever conducted. There was no drama but I sooo backpaddled 
.
So I talked things out with DCD and gave the reasons listed on my letter ... scheduling issues, and financial reasons (because he had said they wanted to drop don from FT to PT). He looked worried and shocked and then asked what the "real reason" was. So I told him.
He did apologize about the problems and asked if there was anything he could do and I did tell him everything that I wanted ... follow the policies always, no transportation for DCB unless he goes to my DD's school otherwise he goes to after school program (more likely he will not get into my DDs school), no part-time offered only FT. He said yes to all and will keep DCG here. I still gave him the notice and he'll need to sign new contract on the 15th otherwise they have no valid contract with me and I'm done anyway. New contract will have a longer probation period, he agreed.
I'm such a wuss
. But I hate interviewing more than I hate terminating and I have my DD's braces and own dental work to pay for and I'd rather not have an interruption in income. At least if he keeps being a knucklehead I can term immed.
. So I talked things out with DCD and gave the reasons listed on my letter ... scheduling issues, and financial reasons (because he had said they wanted to drop don from FT to PT). He looked worried and shocked and then asked what the "real reason" was
. So I told him. He did apologize about the problems and asked if there was anything he could do and I did tell him everything that I wanted ... follow the policies always, no transportation for DCB unless he goes to my DD's school otherwise he goes to after school program (more likely he will not get into my DDs school), no part-time offered only FT. He said yes to all and will keep DCG here. I still gave him the notice and he'll need to sign new contract on the 15th otherwise they have no valid contract with me and I'm done anyway. New contract will have a longer probation period, he agreed.
I'm such a wuss
. But I hate interviewing more than I hate terminating and I have my DD's braces and own dental work to pay for and I'd rather not have an interruption in income. At least if he keeps being a knucklehead I can term immed.
Naptime yet? 10:20 AM 08-04-2014
That sounds like something I would do 
.
I hope they behave from now on.
.I hope they behave from now on.
Blackcat31 10:21 AM 08-04-2014
Originally Posted by MV:
OMGosh, that has to be the absolute worst termination I have ever conducted. There was no drama but I sooo backpaddled.
So I talked things out with DCD and gave the reasons listed on my letter ... scheduling issues, and financial reasons (because he had said they wanted to drop don from FT to PT). He looked worried and shocked and then asked what the "real reason" was. So I told him.
He did apologize about the problems and asked if there was anything he could do and I did tell him everything that I wanted ... follow the policies always, no transportation for DCB unless he goes to my DD's school otherwise he goes to after school program (more likely he will not get into my DDs school), no part-time offered only FT. He said yes to all and will keep DCG here. I still gave him the notice and he'll need to sign new contract on the 15th otherwise they have no valid contract with me and I'm done anyway. New contract will have a longer probation period, he agreed.
I'm such a wuss. But I hate interviewing more than I hate terminating and I have my DD's braces and own dental work to pay for and I'd rather not have an interruption in income. At least if he keeps being a knucklehead I can term immed.
I would much rather work things out with a current family than not so I think it was fine that you reneged on the term....now they KNOW you ain't messing around and if they don't follow policies you WILL term them. OMGosh, that has to be the absolute worst termination I have ever conducted. There was no drama but I sooo backpaddled
. So I talked things out with DCD and gave the reasons listed on my letter ... scheduling issues, and financial reasons (because he had said they wanted to drop don from FT to PT). He looked worried and shocked and then asked what the "real reason" was
. So I told him. He did apologize about the problems and asked if there was anything he could do and I did tell him everything that I wanted ... follow the policies always, no transportation for DCB unless he goes to my DD's school otherwise he goes to after school program (more likely he will not get into my DDs school), no part-time offered only FT. He said yes to all and will keep DCG here. I still gave him the notice and he'll need to sign new contract on the 15th otherwise they have no valid contract with me and I'm done anyway. New contract will have a longer probation period, he agreed.
I'm such a wuss
. But I hate interviewing more than I hate terminating and I have my DD's braces and own dental work to pay for and I'd rather not have an interruption in income. At least if he keeps being a knucklehead I can term immed.I just did the same thing. I "tried" to term a family in May but ended up agreeing to try a bit more but ended up terming anyways last Friday.
But atleast I feel good knowing I tried...
Hopefully, they shape up and become good clients from now on.
Kabob 10:27 AM 08-04-2014
I gave a family a second chance and they turned out to be my best behaved family. It helped that dcg in my case is my favorite dck...but just saying it could work out. Worst case scenario is they term or you have to term, which you were gonna do anyway. I hate interviewing too...so here's hoping this works out for you!
It helped that dcg in my case is my favorite dck...but just saying it could work out. Worst case scenario is they term or you have to term, which you were gonna do anyway. I hate interviewing too...so here's hoping this works out for you!
melilley 11:06 AM 08-04-2014
I'm glad it worked out and hopefully things change with them from now on!
I haven't termed anyone yet, but I once verbally talked to one set of dcp's about possible terming. Their child was aggressive and a biter and other parents were starting to complain. Mom and dad both told me that they didn't want him to go anywhere else and I gave the child a second chance. He did stop biting and isn't as aggressive, but has other issues and I've thought of terming, but just can't.
I haven't termed anyone yet, but I once verbally talked to one set of dcp's about possible terming. Their child was aggressive and a biter and other parents were starting to complain. Mom and dad both told me that they didn't want him to go anywhere else and I gave the child a second chance. He did stop biting and isn't as aggressive, but has other issues and I've thought of terming, but just can't.
EntropyControlSpecialist 12:15 PM 08-04-2014
I allowed a difficult mom to stay after they were almost termed. She calmed down a bit but certainly isn't like the other parents, still. Sometimes it is irritating. 
I hope that everything goes well for you!
I hope that everything goes well for you!
sugar buzz 12:32 PM 08-04-2014
You should be proud of yourself--you were able to communicate your own needs and are obviously doing a great job because they're willing to try, so they can keep you. Pat yourself on the back.
midaycare 01:09 PM 08-04-2014
Originally Posted by sugar buzz:
You should be proud of yourself--you were able to communicate your own needs and are obviously doing a great job because they're willing to try, so they can keep you. Pat yourself on the back.
This. Great job!You should be proud of yourself--you were able to communicate your own needs and are obviously doing a great job because they're willing to try, so they can keep you. Pat yourself on the back.
nannyde 01:17 PM 08-04-2014
Be prepared for them to search for daycare now and term you.
daycare 02:03 PM 08-04-2014
Great Job....its never easy. I had to do this with my first client that was allowed to just get away with stuff for so long because they have been here the longest. When I moved to NO Cali, I had to start all over again. This family was my first before I even got my license. So they were under different rules from the get go. After almost 6 years they are still here, but I had to threaten them with a term notice if they could not get on board with the rest of the group. I was trying to get everyone on the same page and build more structure. They wanted to keep their old ways that I used to let them.
They are still here, my only SA kid, she comes PT in the summer and I love her and them more than anything. They know now that I mean business and the best part is that they are bringing their new child to me when they are old enough.
Some people just need to be set straight.
They are still here, my only SA kid, she comes PT in the summer and I love her and them more than anything. They know now that I mean business and the best part is that they are bringing their new child to me when they are old enough.
Some people just need to be set straight.
Michelle 02:31 PM 08-04-2014
Originally Posted by nannyde:
Be prepared for them to search for daycare now and term you.
believe me, they won't!Be prepared for them to search for daycare now and term you.
Mv is awesome and has a great program
I think those parents are going to straighten out now
as far as the kid that keeps repeating goes,
maybe you can get a jar of jelly beans and have about 10 in there
and every time he repeats himself , you take out one jelly bean out until there are none left. Whatever is left at the end of the day, he can eat or share.
I think it's a bad habit , maybe he feels he's not being heard( probably at home) or he thinks if he keeps asking, you will move faster? I don't know but just do it for one week and maybe you can break that habit.
I did this with a dck and it worked