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laundrymom 08:05 AM 08-04-2016
What a way to make us feel all warm and fuzzy.
Take away money we use to insure the children eat nutritious foods while tightening regulations on what we can serve.
Take away money we use to insure the children eat nutritious foods while tightening regulations on what we can serve.
Blackcat31 08:43 AM 08-04-2016
Originally Posted by laundrymom:
What a way to make us feel all warm and fuzzy.
Take away money we use to insure the children eat nutritious foods while tightening regulations on what we can serve.
?? Did the reimbursement rates go down this year instead of up?What a way to make us feel all warm and fuzzy.
Take away money we use to insure the children eat nutritious foods while tightening regulations on what we can serve.
SignMeUp 08:58 AM 08-04-2016
Blackcat31 09:05 AM 08-04-2016
Originally Posted by SignMeUp:
http://tomcopelandblog.com/2016-2017...ates-announced
The article says the overall cost of food has gone down...I wonder where they get their information? I can't say I know a single person across the country whose foods costs have decreased. http://tomcopelandblog.com/2016-2017...ates-announced
Leigh 10:04 AM 08-04-2016
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
The article says the overall cost of food has gone down...I wonder where they get their information? I can't say I know a single person across the country whose foods costs have decreased.
All I know is that MY groceries have increased by about 25% in the last 10 years or so. I also know that reimbursements never reflected that. When I buy groceries, I think about how a minimum wage parent must work for an entire hour to buy a pound of hamburger ($5.99 at my grocery store) or nearly an hour for a gallon of milk for their kids ($4.79). How steaks for dinner are out of reach for so many families (Sirloin has went from $1.99 a pound to $9.99+ a pound here). 3 years ago, I could buy roasts on sale for $1.69 a pound (my store had a different roast on sale every week). They're on sale now for $3.99-$4.29 per pound occasionally. Regular price on a round roast is $7.99 a pound. Last winter, blueberries (my son's favorite fruit) were SIXTEEN dollars a pound! 8 months of the year, strawberries for my daycare kids are $5-$7 a pound. I spend $25 for fruit for BREAKFAST some days. The article says the overall cost of food has gone down...I wonder where they get their information? I can't say I know a single person across the country whose foods costs have decreased.
I know that the FP is meant to be supplemental. I know that not everyone insists on fresh fruits for their kids, I know that I COULD save money by buying cheaper foods-that's all on me. But reimbursing 20 freaking cents for snack? That's utterly ridiculous. What could I possibly serve for 20 cents? or 40 cents for that matter, assuming that the FP could cover half of my costs (which it never has)?
Leigh 09:03 AM 08-04-2016
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
?? Did the reimbursement rates go down this year instead of up?
They did. Groceries may have decreased 1%, but that hardly makes up for the HUGE increases that we have seen in the last several years. This is more than sad-I find it insulting.?? Did the reimbursement rates go down this year instead of up?
laundrymom 09:05 AM 08-04-2016
Originally Posted by Leigh:
They did. Groceries may have decreased 1%, but that hardly makes up for the HUGE increases that we have seen in the last several years. This is more than sad-I find it insulting.
Homes were the only ones decreased. Everyone else increased.They did. Groceries may have decreased 1%, but that hardly makes up for the HUGE increases that we have seen in the last several years. This is more than sad-I find it insulting.
Blackcat31 09:07 AM 08-04-2016
Originally Posted by laundrymom:
Homes were the only ones decreased. Everyone else increased.
Just another step in running in-home family childcare providers out of business Homes were the only ones decreased. Everyone else increased.
Blackcat31 09:09 AM 08-04-2016
Program requirements and provider qualifications have increased tenfold yet our income and reimbursement rates continue to decline.
And they wonder why there's a problem with childcare in America
And they wonder why there's a problem with childcare in America
Annalee 10:27 AM 08-05-2016
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Just another step in running in-home family childcare providers out of business
Exactly what I thought when I got the email sharing this info with me! Just another step in running in-home family childcare providers out of business
Play Care 10:10 AM 08-04-2016
Originally Posted by laundrymom:
Homes were the only ones decreased. Everyone else increased.
This makes me livid.Homes were the only ones decreased. Everyone else increased.
And who are we supposed to contact to let them know how much they suck?
laundrymom 10:12 AM 08-04-2016
Originally Posted by Play Care:
This makes me livid.
And who are we supposed to contact to let them know how much they suck?
According to the food program response on their FB page, our politicians.This makes me livid.
And who are we supposed to contact to let them know how much they suck?
Blackcat31 07:31 AM 08-25-2016
Originally Posted by laundrymom:
Homes were the only ones decreased. Everyone else increased.
Where did you see/find the info that only "homes" were decreased but not centers. I have some "friends" arguing about it.... Homes were the only ones decreased. Everyone else increased.
Blackcat31 07:38 AM 08-25-2016
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Where did you see/find the info that only "homes" were decreased but not centers. I have some "friends" arguing about it....
Nevermind....I found it! Where did you see/find the info that only "homes" were decreased but not centers. I have some "friends" arguing about it....
Leigh 11:02 AM 08-05-2016
I read that centers' rates are based on the cost of food away from home and that in-home is based on the cost of food at home. So, centers get paid based on the cost of restaurant meals? This makes no sense to me.
renodeb 02:36 PM 08-09-2016
m sorry for saying this but WTF? Honestly I think one day I will just quite the food program. I don't think it's worth it. Makes no since to lower the meal rates. I guess we will just have to raise our rates every year.
Josiegirl 02:45 PM 08-09-2016
I've always been on the Tier 1 rates which has been great. But I just found out Vt. is the only state that increases their Tier 2 rates through funding, to make it more feasible. Why Can't more states do that??
Tier 1 Rates
1.31
2.46
.73
Vt. Tier 2 Rates
1.29
2.44
.64
Tier 1 Rates
1.31
2.46
.73
Vt. Tier 2 Rates
1.29
2.44
.64
MommyMuffin 05:36 AM 08-12-2016
I'm confused. The food program went down. My children's school lunch cost went up. How do they figure this out?
Leigh 07:57 AM 08-12-2016
Originally Posted by MommyMuffin:
I'm confused. The food program went down. My children's school lunch cost went up. How do they figure this out?
Schools are paid based on the cost of meals "away from home". In home childcares are paid based on the cost of meals "at home". They use different formulas to determine reimbursement. Which seems weird to me, since schools can buy in bulk and save a lot by doing so, when we're buying at the full price grocery store!I'm confused. The food program went down. My children's school lunch cost went up. How do they figure this out?
AmyKidsCo 09:14 AM 08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Leigh:
Schools are paid based on the cost of meals "away from home". In home childcares are paid based on the cost of meals "at home". They use different formulas to determine reimbursement. Which seems weird to me, since schools can buy in bulk and save a lot by doing so, when we're buying at the full price grocery store!
Not to mention that although our businesses in OUR homes, the children who we're being reimbursed for are AWAY from their homes.Schools are paid based on the cost of meals "away from home". In home childcares are paid based on the cost of meals "at home". They use different formulas to determine reimbursement. Which seems weird to me, since schools can buy in bulk and save a lot by doing so, when we're buying at the full price grocery store!
Leigh 09:32 AM 08-12-2016
Originally Posted by AmyKidsCo:
Not to mention that although our businesses in OUR homes, the children who we're being reimbursed for are AWAY from their homes.
absolutely. It's ridiculous, IMO.Not to mention that although our businesses in OUR homes, the children who we're being reimbursed for are AWAY from their homes.
Cat Herder 09:54 AM 08-26-2016
Originally Posted by MommyMuffin:
I'm confused. The food program went down. My children's school lunch cost went up. How do they figure this out?
The school had to put the cost on the parents to make up for the loss of reimbursements they get. I'm confused. The food program went down. My children's school lunch cost went up. How do they figure this out?
Same thing will happen to daycare rates if they raise childcare providers (AKA Preschool Teachers) incomes.
The deficit has to go somewhere. The question remains who will be the one to pay it. This time it was you.
daycarediva 10:06 AM 08-26-2016
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
The school had to put the cost on the parents to make up for the loss of reimbursements they get.
Same thing will happen to daycare rates if they raise childcare providers (AKA Preschool Teachers) incomes. The deficit has to go somewhere. The question remains who will be the one to pay it.
This time it was you.
My FP rates went down this month. My insurance went up. I already raised my rates for incoming clients in anticipation of this.The school had to put the cost on the parents to make up for the loss of reimbursements they get.
Same thing will happen to daycare rates if they raise childcare providers (AKA Preschool Teachers) incomes.
The deficit has to go somewhere. The question remains who will be the one to pay it. This time it was you.
Blackcat31 10:22 AM 08-26-2016
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
The school had to put the cost on the parents to make up for the loss of reimbursements they get.
Same thing will happen to daycare rates if they raise childcare providers (AKA Preschool Teachers) incomes. The deficit has to go somewhere. The question remains who will be the one to pay it.
This time it was you.
From my understanding the schools didn't get a decrease in reimbursement amounts though....just in home care. The school had to put the cost on the parents to make up for the loss of reimbursements they get.
Same thing will happen to daycare rates if they raise childcare providers (AKA Preschool Teachers) incomes.
The deficit has to go somewhere. The question remains who will be the one to pay it. This time it was you.
https://minutemenusystems.files.word...-july-2016.pdf
I may be mis-reading but that's the general consensus from what I've gathered.
Cat Herder 10:37 AM 08-26-2016
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
From my understanding the schools didn't get a decrease in reimbursement amounts though....just in home care.
https://minutemenusystems.files.word...-july-2016.pdf
I may be mis-reading but that's the general consensus from what I've gathered.
You are correct to my understanding as well. From my understanding the schools didn't get a decrease in reimbursement amounts though....just in home care.
https://minutemenusystems.files.word...-july-2016.pdf
I may be mis-reading but that's the general consensus from what I've gathered.
Some communities around here have had their tier changed which resulted in lower rates. Based on this years enrollment.The general consensus here is that many lower income families left the area when the plant shut down to take the relocation offers. Other young couples returned to parents homes.
Hopefully other places will have seen a positive boom from places like here. I hope it is simply a cycle and it will work it's way back around. Rise, fall, rebuild, rise.
Aside: We have too many vacant houses, it is weird driving through old beloved neighborhoods suddenly. I have never seen so many houses with no curtains, blinds or rocking chairs. Empty porches. Maybe it is a southern thing, but it breaks my heart.