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Unregistered 11:55 AM 08-23-2018
Hi is it common for a home daycare provider to be taking naps when the kids do? I suspect my kid’s provider does this. I’m not even sure that I mind but just wondering if it’s normal. Thank you.
Silly Songs 12:00 PM 08-23-2018
No. The provider still needs to be alert to any problems or issues which may occur. They are still working and should be awake. I would mind,very much, if someone caring for my child was asleep during the day. Children can choke, cry, etc. Someone needs to be able to hear them. It’s most likely against licensing standards.
Cat Herder 12:04 PM 08-23-2018
It varies by state.
Here's an old thread on this topic that you may find interesting. https://www.daycare.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40903
Here's an old thread on this topic that you may find interesting. https://www.daycare.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40903
storybookending 12:32 PM 08-23-2018
I don’t but I know when my cousin was pregnant she did. I suspect an interesting discussion will follow.
DaveA 12:45 PM 08-23-2018
I think it’s against the rules here in IL, but I imagine it varies state by state. I come from a center background where falling asleep on the job very likely get you fired. Personally I wouldn’t do it.
Cat Herder 12:51 PM 08-23-2018
Originally Posted by storybookending:
I don’t but I know when my cousin was pregnant she did. I suspect an interesting discussion will follow.
Probably not. I don’t but I know when my cousin was pregnant she did. I suspect an interesting discussion will follow.
A lot has changed since 2012 with QRIS and more regulation in almost every state. I am unaware of any state that allows licensed providers to nap, now (that does not mean there isn't one). Even overnight care is regulated for a provider to be up.
I am not sure how it applies to those few states who still allow providers to be legally unlicensed, though.
Leigh 12:51 PM 08-23-2018
I know of a pair of sisters who have a childcare, and they lie down and nap with the kids every day. They're unlicensed/unregistered. It's legal.
If you are registered or licensed in my state, you must be awake during day hours when you have kids. You may sleep at night when kids are sleeping, as long as you have a monitor or are in the same room as kids.
If you are registered or licensed in my state, you must be awake during day hours when you have kids. You may sleep at night when kids are sleeping, as long as you have a monitor or are in the same room as kids.
BrynleeJean 01:01 PM 08-23-2018
i don't know of a specific rule against sleeping while the kids are sleeping during the day here in my state. I know you have to be in proximity to them so you can hear them to monitor them. They have rules about sleeping during over night care but nothing really against it though i don't think my licensor would be happy to see me napping
If the question is bugging you you can always call your local licensing office or look up the minimum standards for childcare homes in your state. Super simple, i have it in Ibook form on my iPad.
If the question is bugging you you can always call your local licensing office or look up the minimum standards for childcare homes in your state. Super simple, i have it in Ibook form on my iPad.
Cat Herder 01:04 PM 08-23-2018
Originally Posted by Leigh:
You may sleep at night when kids are sleeping, as long as you have a monitor or are in the same room as kids.
That is how it was here, once. Same room, hook lock up high on door, then carry on. You may sleep at night when kids are sleeping, as long as you have a monitor or are in the same room as kids.
Now it is straight cut: "At least one Adult shall supervise Children at all times"
BrynleeJean 01:16 PM 08-23-2018
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
That is how it was here, once. Same room, hook lock up high on door, then carry on.
Now it is straight cut: "At least one Adult shall supervise Children at all times"
Woah kinda strict. I bet that closed a lot of night care homesThat is how it was here, once. Same room, hook lock up high on door, then carry on.
Now it is straight cut: "At least one Adult shall supervise Children at all times"
Jupadia 01:23 PM 08-23-2018
I confess to falling asleep a couple times, while sitting up in my chair though it was when I was pregnant with my last. Mostly I ended up half dozing a couple times. But I've never layin down to sleep and never would cause I'm being paid to take care of the kids during normal daytime hours.
I know a staff member who was fired from a center for falling asleep (Alberta canada) while I worked there.
I know a staff member who was fired from a center for falling asleep (Alberta canada) while I worked there.
hwichlaz 04:20 PM 08-23-2018
It's still legal in California to nap when the kids nap. 
but with safe sleep regs about to change I suspect at best it'll only be true if you don't have babies in care.
If I'm sick, I gate myself into the play room, pull out a nap mat, and doze along with them. I don't fully fall asleep, but I rest my eyes for sure. They can't get out without waking me up...and I don't have a single kid that wouldn't come poke me in the eye or something if they woke up before I did. Generally...I up before them...because I start hearing them make noise shifting around on their mats. I certainly did it when I was pregnant.
but with safe sleep regs about to change I suspect at best it'll only be true if you don't have babies in care. If I'm sick, I gate myself into the play room, pull out a nap mat, and doze along with them. I don't fully fall asleep, but I rest my eyes for sure. They can't get out without waking me up...and I don't have a single kid that wouldn't come poke me in the eye or something if they woke up before I did. Generally...I up before them...because I start hearing them make noise shifting around on their mats. I certainly did it when I was pregnant.
MarinaVanessa 08:10 PM 08-23-2018
Originally Posted by hwichlaz:
It's still legal in California to nap when the kids nap. but with safe sleep regs about to change I suspect at best it'll only be true if you don't have babies in care.
yep it's not against regulations now but according to a safe sleep draft I got from one of the CA child care advocates it will be come November (the anticipated date they are trying to roll out the new safe sleep regulations). It won't be legal to sleep at all during the day when kids are napping if you have kids at any age in care. If you have overnight kids you can only sleep if the kids are already asleep and you're going to bed for the night.It's still legal in California to nap when the kids nap.
but with safe sleep regs about to change I suspect at best it'll only be true if you don't have babies in care.
Puddleduck 05:44 AM 08-24-2018
I try not to close even when I'm quite ill and I'm a very light sleeper so I will nap on those days so I'm better able to care for the children when they're awake. The other option would be to close and my daycare parents would need to find alternative care. This seems to be an ok compromise. But I'm also aware it's not very professional and I've made sure all my daycare parents are fine with it.
Blackcat31 06:14 AM 08-24-2018
Nope.
The legalities are irrelevant in my eyes.
I would never even think of sleeping while responsible for someone else's children.
It's unprofessional, dangerous and downright lazy in my opinion.
The legalities are irrelevant in my eyes.
I would never even think of sleeping while responsible for someone else's children.
It's unprofessional, dangerous and downright lazy in my opinion.
LysesKids 06:27 AM 08-24-2018
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Nope.
The legalities are irrelevant in my eyes.
I would never even think of sleeping while responsible for someone else's children.
It's unprofessional, dangerous and downright lazy in my opinion.
Yes, if I'm sick, I will close before sleeping on the job and my parents know I have a few built in sick days... as I get older I know my limits - its why I refuse to do late night or overnights now. After my health scare in FEB, not chancing anythingNope.
The legalities are irrelevant in my eyes.
I would never even think of sleeping while responsible for someone else's children.
It's unprofessional, dangerous and downright lazy in my opinion.
kidsncats 12:02 PM 08-24-2018
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Nope.
The legalities are irrelevant in my eyes.
I would never even think of sleeping while responsible for someone else's children.
It's unprofessional, dangerous and downright lazy in my opinion.
Lazy. LoL. We know how opinions are.Nope.
The legalities are irrelevant in my eyes.
I would never even think of sleeping while responsible for someone else's children.
It's unprofessional, dangerous and downright lazy in my opinion.
It's against the rules in my state. I was sick with vertigo, and called all the parents to come pick up their kids. One parent said, "Well, why don't you just have a nap, I'm sure you'll feel better!"
CityGarden 01:09 PM 08-24-2018
While my preschool program is in my home, I am only open limited hours (currently 4-6.5 hours daily, reducing to 3-5 hours daily) .... I am relatively well paid for the amount of hours I work and IF I am wise with my time I do planning/prep/clean up/parent communications/etc. during nap time so I spend less hours after the children leave on that sort of stuff. I would rather get that stuff out the way and if needed nap after the children leave.
In full disclosure, one week I was sick and laid down and rested (not slept) with the kids during nap but honestly I worry about what could happen and there is just no way I could feel secure enough to nap.
In full disclosure, one week I was sick and laid down and rested (not slept) with the kids during nap but honestly I worry about what could happen and there is just no way I could feel secure enough to nap.
hwichlaz 06:57 AM 08-24-2018
Originally Posted by MarinaVanessa:
yep it's not against regulations now but according to a safe sleep draft I got from one of the CA child care advocates it will be come November (the anticipated date they are trying to roll out the new safe sleep regulations). It won't be legal to sleep at all during the day when kids are napping if you have kids at any age in care. If you have overnight kids you can only sleep if the kids are already asleep and you're going to bed for the night.
As written...they seem Ridiculous. What does sanitizing infant bedding daily accomplish? And if they want me to do a health check every 15 minutes that involves touching a sleeping baby....that’s just mean. Also waking them up by rolling them over .... :P. At least you only have to do that part until parents sign a form.yep it's not against regulations now but according to a safe sleep draft I got from one of the CA child care advocates it will be come November (the anticipated date they are trying to roll out the new safe sleep regulations). It won't be legal to sleep at all during the day when kids are napping if you have kids at any age in care. If you have overnight kids you can only sleep if the kids are already asleep and you're going to bed for the night.
LysesKids 07:30 AM 08-24-2018
Originally Posted by hwichlaz:
As written...they seem Ridiculous. What does sanitizing infant bedding daily accomplish? And if they want me to do a health check every 15 minutes that involves touching a sleeping baby....that’s just mean. Also waking them up by rolling them over .... :P. At least you only have to do that part until parents sign a form.
Here in TN, touching a sleeping infant has been regs for years lol... I know it sounds mean, but I still do it. When it comes to sanitizing, again I love my Benefect disinfectant ; it's very expensive, but it's literally spray & walk away, less toxic than vinegar & water.As written...they seem Ridiculous. What does sanitizing infant bedding daily accomplish? And if they want me to do a health check every 15 minutes that involves touching a sleeping baby....that’s just mean. Also waking them up by rolling them over .... :P. At least you only have to do that part until parents sign a form.
hwichlaz 12:50 PM 08-24-2018
Originally Posted by LysesKids:
Here in TN, touching a sleeping infant has been regs for years lol... I know it sounds mean, but I still do it. When it comes to sanitizing, again I love my Benefect disinfectant ; it's very expensive, but it's literally spray & walk away, less toxic than vinegar & water.
Here in TN, touching a sleeping infant has been regs for years lol... I know it sounds mean, but I still do it. When it comes to sanitizing, again I love my Benefect disinfectant ; it's very expensive, but it's literally spray & walk away, less toxic than vinegar & water.
You spray it on sheets? They want us to wash the bedding daily....even if not soiled. I currently wash it all at once every Friday.
MarinaVanessa 07:33 PM 08-24-2018
They're still working put the kinks. They're separating regulations for centers and FCC so if we have separate blankets for them them we only have to wash them weekly, dont have the touch regulation, and once you put the baby down pm their back of they roll themselves over you don't have to roll them back over.
Originally Posted by hwichlaz:
As written...they seem Ridiculous. What does sanitizing infant bedding daily accomplish? And if they want me to do a health check every 15 minutes that involves touching a sleeping baby....that’s just mean. Also waking them up by rolling them over .... :P. At least you only have to do that part until parents sign a form.
As written...they seem Ridiculous. What does sanitizing infant bedding daily accomplish? And if they want me to do a health check every 15 minutes that involves touching a sleeping baby....that’s just mean. Also waking them up by rolling them over .... :P. At least you only have to do that part until parents sign a form.
hwichlaz 08:53 AM 08-25-2018
Originally Posted by MarinaVanessa:
They're still working put the kinks. They're separating regulations for centers and FCC so if we have separate blankets for them them we only have to wash them weekly, dont have the touch regulation, and once you put the baby down pm their back of they roll themselves over you don't have to roll them back over.
Those are specifically in the FCCH section proposals. I sure hope they get axed.They're still working put the kinks. They're separating regulations for centers and FCC so if we have separate blankets for them them we only have to wash them weekly, dont have the touch regulation, and once you put the baby down pm their back of they roll themselves over you don't have to roll them back over.
skipper 10:03 AM 08-24-2018
I couldn't imagine napping while the kids do. I run a small unlicensed day care, my group rests/naps from 1-3 daily. I take that time to clean up, organize activities, update lesson plans, write, read, etc. I am puzzled as to why an adult would need to nap during the day and why they would feel it's safe practice?
trytobearunner34 11:37 AM 08-25-2018
I have been a home provider for over a year. This includes a time when my own infant was only sleeping 2 hours clips at night. Never for an instant did it ever enter my mind that taking a nap when the kids were sleeping would be ok.
Unregistered 02:45 PM 08-27-2018
Okay thank you everyone. I don’t have any actual proof but I came early one day and the provider had marks on her face like she had just woken up. My baby is 9 months old. He sleeps next to her couch so I’m sure she was right there. I like her and maybe she just accidentally dozed off. I’m not confrontational so I didn’t say anything and neither did she.
Ariana 03:45 PM 08-27-2018
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Okay thank you everyone. I don’t have any actual proof but I came early one day and the provider had marks on her face like she had just woken up. My baby is 9 months old. He sleeps next to her couch so I’m sure she was right there. I like her and maybe she just accidentally dozed off. I’m not confrontational so I didn’t say anything and neither did she.
This has happened to me and I did not sleep! Sometimes the way I lie down to watch a show or have my face resting on a pillow or on my hand creates these marks. She may not have been napping so just keep that in mind Okay thank you everyone. I don’t have any actual proof but I came early one day and the provider had marks on her face like she had just woken up. My baby is 9 months old. He sleeps next to her couch so I’m sure she was right there. I like her and maybe she just accidentally dozed off. I’m not confrontational so I didn’t say anything and neither did she.
LysesKids 04:43 PM 08-27-2018
Originally Posted by Ariana:
This has happened to me and I did not sleep! Sometimes the way I lie down to watch a show or have my face resting on a pillow or on my hand creates these marks. She may not have been napping so just keep that in mind
I have a pillow on my couch that leaves marks... some of my babies actually take it & lay on it while playing; the moms have seen the marks lol ( there is beading and lace on it)This has happened to me and I did not sleep! Sometimes the way I lie down to watch a show or have my face resting on a pillow or on my hand creates these marks. She may not have been napping so just keep that in mind