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Crystal 12:23 PM 07-28-2011
Hey Nanny....are these what you use, and is this a good deal:

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/bab/2517875684.html

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/bab/2498187392.html
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nannyde 12:54 PM 07-28-2011
Originally Posted by Crystal:
Hey Nanny....are these what you use, and is this a good deal:

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/bab/2517875684.html

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/bab/2498187392.html
YES

Okay the first one looks like the scaled down model they did before they went out of biz. I can see that because they have four open mesh sides.

The second one... that's a great one.

Ask them for the measurements. The original first few generations are 26 inches deep. The scaled down is 22 inches deep.

If you are thinking about getting them INSPECT them.... every inch of them. You have to set it up... turn it on it's side ... and look AND TOUCH... run fingers thru... at every seam.

buying them used is a tricky business. It's REALLY hard to see flaws even for someone who isn't blind like me.

I would DEFINITELY pay it for the second one. The first one... if it was in excellent condition and you JUST needed newborn to twelve months... it would be worth it. No matter how you slice it... at least it's deep enough for the birth to one crowd unless the kid is huge.

The materials on the second one are MUCH better than the last generation model. Every single part... the stitching.. the web of the mesh... the bottom cot like bottom...

They really cheapened them down before they quit making them in EVERY way including the biggie... the depth.

If they have slight mesh rippage I can teach you how to easily fix it safely.
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Crystal 12:56 PM 07-28-2011
Cool......thanks
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nannyde 01:03 PM 07-28-2011
Originally Posted by Crystal:
Cool......thanks
They were about 200 dollars a piece at the peak. The cheapest new one I got was off of ebay for about 80 shipped BUT the guy didn't put jmason in the title.

When I was buying them new... around 200 shipped for the CHEAPENED down model.

Jmason got hit hard with car seat law suits. They went out of business after that... out of the kid biz.

Sad because that's an amazing piece of equipment. The first generation ones are amazing. Still standing here without a single flaw. If you take care of them and leave them standing... keep the tension checked... they will live for years and years. Really nice for the froggy one and two year olds who want to escape
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GretasLittleFriends 06:40 PM 07-28-2011
Originally Posted by nannyde:

If they have slight mesh rippage I can teach you how to easily fix it safely.
What is considered slight? And how can you fix it safely? I just assumed if a p&p got a tear in the mesh (any size at all) it could no longer be used. I have 2 new p&ps, but would be very interested to know for future reference.
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nannyde 06:49 PM 07-28-2011
Originally Posted by GretasLittleFriends:
What is considered slight? And how can you fix it safely? I just assumed if a p&p got a tear in the mesh (any size at all) it could no longer be used. I have 2 new p&ps, but would be very interested to know for future reference.
https://www.daycare.com/forum/showth...ighlight=floss
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nannyde 06:56 PM 07-28-2011
crystal

when you inspect make sure the poles are in exactly like the pic in the second pic. You can't inspect them if the poles aren't going thru the side envelope material. They have to be in there to pull the mesh and vinyl taught enough for you to see the flaws. They have it right in the second link.

The chances of finding one that is from that generation that is in excellent shape is really low. People will try to do their own repairs and hide the flaws. If the unit has been set up and taken down over and over you have a good chance it is ripped somewhere. If it has been used as something their kids can climb or used to store stuff it could be ripped. Because it's built on tension poles the rips are often at the seams where the vinyl meets the mesh or the vinyl meets the poles... or the vinyl meets the vinyl. The little diamond mesh grids are TINY so it's worth it to take a flash light to it and really look at it

Good news is this model only has two sides of mesh.
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Crystal 07:12 PM 07-28-2011
emailed....waiting to hear back.

thanks for all the input Nanny....I'll be sure to inspect it thoroughly if she emails back. It looks like it is in fairly good condition from the pic, so hopefully it will be.
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nannyde 07:28 PM 07-28-2011
Some models came with a hard back mattress top insert. Some have a thin mattress pad that is just velcored onto the cot like bottom. I don't use those.

they tried different combos. I have a few of the ones in the second pic and none have the insert hard backed mattress.
They are all the cot bottom.

The changing table stuff is useless. I just tossed that stuff. I was after the playpen.

If the manufacture tags are sewed into the cot bottom I remove it. It's like six inches square and it takes an hour or so to remove it stitch by stitch. The kids can sit and pick at the tag and get the stitching loose so I just remove it CAREFULLY stitch by stitch and remove all the thread.

They have an envelope on the outside end. I've also removed many of them but that's some work to do and not rip it. Usually we just put that side up against the wall. The bigger kids can lean over and pick and pull on that so we just remove it or have that side against the wall. Because it's so deep... the babies can't reach it. If you only use to age one I would leave the pocket on.

If you end up buying it and you don't like it. ........ I'll buy it from you and pay for the shipping. They are SO hard to find now that it's been years since they quit manufacturing the first generation. I have a stock full of ones I haven't used yet but one more would be gladly accepted.
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