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mrsp'slilpeeps 02:27 PM 01-09-2015
This past summer we got a new puppy a few months after our other one had passed. She is 6 months old and still learning stuff.

So last night I had her on a leash that Is attached to the bannister and she can still go up and down the stairs.

She was sitting on the stairs barking at him, which she always does and he reached through the railings, grabbed her leash and yanked it hard and told her to be quiet.

I was shocked. I had no idea what to say. should I say something or just let it go?
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AuntTami 02:45 PM 01-09-2015
Originally Posted by mrsp'slilpeeps:
This past summer we got a new puppy a few months after our other one had passed. She is 6 months old and still learning stuff.

So last night I had her on a leash that Is attached to the bannister and she can still go up and down the stairs.

She was sitting on the stairs barking at him, which she always does and he reached through the railings, grabbed her leash and yanked it hard and told her to be quiet.

I was shocked. I had no idea what to say. should I say something or just let it go?
I would have said something immediately. You are in MY HOME and that is MY DOG and you do not touch him. They would have been escorted out of my house with a warning of if I ever see something like that again or if he even looks at my dog wrong, they will need to find a new daycare.

That's completely unacceptable. How would he feel if you jerked his child like that? He would have come unglued, I'm sure. It's no different.

At this point I would say something along the lines of you don't appreciate him disrespecting you and your home by putting his hands on YOUR things/animals and that tou won't be discussing it any further or again because if you see it again he will be terminated immediately.

There's no excuse. The nerve of that man. I'm so sorry that that happened. I sure hope your pup is okay. Give her an extra scratch and snuggle tonight.

Geez. Great way to make your dog scared of parents and strangers!
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Josiegirl 03:00 PM 01-09-2015
Did he have an especially bad day or is he just a rotten person?? No one gets away with treating my dogs like that. There was certainly a better way for him to handle the barking if it was annoying him!!
I would still bring it up somehow as the pp mentioned. If you let it slide he'll feel free to do it again and next time your puppy might get hurt. Another thing to think about is putting the puppy in a room away from dcps when they come and go. That's what I do with my dogs cause one is a jumper, and some parents don't like dogs.
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Blackcat31 03:21 PM 01-09-2015
Um, WOW! NOT okay!!

If he had an issue with anything or anyone on your property he needs to come directly to you about it.

I would be LIVID about this and would say something to him.

E-mail, call, face to face...what ever makes you most comfortable but no way would I allow that to go without being addressed.

Wow!! My pup is 6 months old today and just the thought of someone (a stranger no less) treating him that way makes my blood boil!!!
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permanentvacation 03:25 PM 01-09-2015
I'm so sorry he hurt your puppy! That was absolutely horrible of him! I wouldn't let him near your puppy again. God knows what else he might do if he continues to get irritated by the puppy.

I agree with AuntTami except I wouldn't have given him a warning, I would have said, "Today's your last day. Bye!" I would be afraid of letting him around my dog. I don't tolerate animal abuse at all.

Just a suggestion, not that you asked. You might want to have the dog inside with you during drop off and pick up time. I trained my dog by keeping him on his leash in the house when the parents came. I'd hold his leash and keep him really close to me. As a parent came in, I'd tell him, "Let them in." (Which is my way of letting him know that the person approaching the home is okay to let in. Then I'd make him sit down beside me to learn that he doesn't run up to and jump on the people coming in the house. If my parents wanted to pet him, which most did, I'd make him sit still so they could pet him (again to teach him not to jump on them). Since I had him on his leash, I could control him and train him easier.

If you are outside when the parents come, you might want to keep him/her on a leash beside you and teach him/her to not run up to them or jump on them.

By having your dog tied up outside when people come in and out, you aren't able to teach him/her not to chase them or jump on them.

However, no matter what your puppy does to your clients, they have no right to mistreat your puppy. If they do, they would have be terminated immediately.

Actually, I have it in my contract that the child, parents, and anyone entering my property with/for their child is to treat me, my family, my pets and my home with respect. If they don't, the child will be terminated immediately.

I put that in years ago after I had one parent cuss at me and a few months later, I witnessed one of my parents yell and roar like a lion while forcefully lunging at my neighbor's puppy.

I was abused by my ex-husband, my kids witnessed his abuse, he verbally and mentally abused my younger daughter and threatened her physically, and he kicked our dog down the porch steps one time. My children and I have been through enough of someone being hateful and abusive. I most certainly am not going to invite someone into my home that displays those characteristics.
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Laurel 11:11 PM 01-09-2015
He was wrong but our regulations don't even allow for a dog to be around children/parents during daycare hours. I agree.

I would talk to him but I would also keep my dog somewhere else during times when parents are picking up.

Laurel
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NightOwl 01:21 AM 01-10-2015
If the dog is going to be around when parents are there, then he (the dog) needs to socialize with them. The barking will likely stop once he's a little more comfortable with them. And he's a puppy for God's sake. They have to learn the ropes. They don't come automatically programmed to already know proper behaviors.

When dcd comes in Monday morning, grab him by the tie and give HIM a good yank. Oh you didn't like being manhandled? Well neither did my puppy.
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Second Home 09:25 AM 01-10-2015
That would have been his last day . He is teaching the puppy to be afraid of people reaching towards her . Not something I would tolerate .
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e.j. 12:54 PM 01-10-2015
Originally Posted by Laurel:
He was wrong but our regulations don't even allow for a dog to be around children/parents during daycare hours. I agree.

I would talk to him but I would also keep my dog somewhere else during times when parents are picking up.

Laurel
I agree. He was wrong to do what he did. He should never have touched your puppy or his leash the way he did and obviously needs to have some guidelines set for him and a warning issued - if you're willing to give him another chance.

I don't remember any specific regulation in my state that says pets can't be around the kids or parents but we do have to make sure the kids' safety is taken into account. For liability reasons and to keep our pets safe, we keep them inaccessible to the kids and their parents during day care hours. (Not criticizing or saying it's how anyone else should do it. Just saying this is how I do it to prevent things like this from happening.)
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Laurel 01:09 PM 01-10-2015
Originally Posted by Second Home:
That would have been his last day . He is teaching the puppy to be afraid of people reaching towards her . Not something I would tolerate .
Except it is not his job to teach the puppy anything. If I were a judge, I'd say that it was the owner's responsibility to keep pets away from clients. I think maybe I am watching too much Judge Judy but still that is what I think.

Just an opposing viewpoint.

Laurel
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Laurel 01:17 PM 01-10-2015
Originally Posted by e.j.:
I agree. He was wrong to do what he did. He should never have touched your puppy or his leash the way he did and obviously needs to have some guidelines set for him and a warning issued - if you're willing to give him another chance.

I don't remember any specific regulation in my state that says pets can't be around the kids or parents but we do have to make sure the kids' safety is taken into account. For liability reasons and to keep our pets safe, we keep them inaccessible to the kids and their parents during day care hours. (Not criticizing or saying it's how anyone else should do it. Just saying this is how I do it to prevent things like this from happening.)

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Play Care 05:34 AM 01-11-2015
Originally Posted by Laurel:
He was wrong but our regulations don't even allow for a dog to be around children/parents during daycare hours. I agree.

I would talk to him but I would also keep my dog somewhere else during times when parents are picking up.

Laurel


I don't think we have to keep pets separted from day care, though I don't have four legged pets so I'm not 100% sure. But as a parent if I were picking up my kids and being constantly barked at, I'd be looking for new day care. As a provider if I had a pet I would keep it from day care not because I'd be worried about the kids but I'd be worried about the pet being hurt.
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Second Home 06:46 AM 01-11-2015
There is a difference between a puppy barking and an adult barking , the puppy is learning what is acceptable and appropriate at the moment . If you want the puppy to be used to the coming and goings of a childcare routine she needs to experience it .She needs to know that kids sceaming , running and many different people coming in and out is ok and normal , being forcefully discliplined is going to make her fearful of people coming and going . Which is not the way a dog who is going to be around people should be . People want dogs who are good and well behaved , this takes time , training and socilization it just does not happed automatically .Puppies bark for many reasons not just because they are defending their property, they are happy , playful , fearful, etc....

An adult is a totally different discussion .
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TheGoodLife 12:36 PM 01-11-2015
I'm sorry, but the puppy was on a leash away from direct contact- NO ONE has a right to yell at and/or pull on them. He had to reach through a banister to get to the puppy. I personally keep my dogs outside or in the laundry room for parent pick ups and drop offs, but if anyone had the audacity to touch my dog in that manner I'd be beyond livid! He could bring up the barking if he's annoyed to the provider or even look somewhere else if he doesn't like dogs, but to take that approach, I'd have termed as soon as I realized what had happened!
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