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Controlled Chaos 07:45 AM 03-04-2016
I love gardening with my little ones. It came to my attention that tomato plants are on the toxic list Which is irritating as new science shows a child would have to eat an insane amount of the leaves before becoming ill. But anyways, daffodils are on the list. I planted a bunch of bulbs last fall in my FRONT yard. The kids walk on a path through the front yard to get to the back yard where they play in the fenced back yard with the now tomato free vegetable garden. Am I in violation? I have sent my specialist so many emails lately I thought I would give her a break at least until monday lol. I am a paranoid rule follower sometimes. Thoughts?
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sharlan 08:11 AM 03-04-2016
In CA, it really depends on your analyst.

I got a "Class A" citation (right up there with firearms and drugs) for a tomato plant in my backyard. Yet, another local provider with a different analyst didn't. She even gave the analyst some tomatoes.

I have sago palms in my front yard, yet another provider on the next street was told to remove hers. Same analyst.

If in doubt, ask.
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NillaWafers 08:22 AM 03-04-2016
Originally Posted by sharlan:
In CA, it really depends on your analyst.

I got a "Class A" citation (right up there with firearms and drugs) for a tomato plant in my backyard. Yet, another local provider with a different analyst didn't. She even gave the analyst some tomatoes.

I have sago palms in my front yard, yet another provider on the next street was told to remove hers. Same analyst.

If in doubt, ask.
Ugh, I hate CA. I have 6 tomato sprouts I was planning on planting next week. I would hate to get a violation over something so stupid.
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sharlan 08:51 AM 03-04-2016
Originally Posted by NillaWafers:
Ugh, I hate CA. I have 6 tomato sprouts I was planning on planting next week. I would hate to get a violation over something so stupid.

They have to be inaccessible to the kids. I had to move mine behind the pool fence, but I was still written up. Prospective parents look at me like I've grown an extra head when I tell them I have a Class A citation and what it is for.

I have never had a child eat a tomato leaf. My youngest granddaughter used to pick them when she was a toddler and sit on her little bench and eat them.
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Thriftylady 09:57 AM 03-04-2016
I would put up some T posts and put one of those cheap fences around them. Glad I am legally unlicensed and don't have to deal with such crazy nonsense. That is what supervision is for. I mean it isn't like we would say "here kiddo have some leaves".
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Blackcat31 10:05 AM 03-04-2016
Originally Posted by Controlled Chaos:
I love gardening with my little ones. It came to my attention that tomato plants are on the toxic list Which is irritating as new science shows a child would have to eat an insane amount of the leaves before becoming ill. But anyways, daffodils are on the list. I planted a bunch of bulbs last fall in my FRONT yard. The kids walk on a path through the front yard to get to the back yard where they play in the fenced back yard with the now tomato free vegetable garden. Am I in violation? I have sent my specialist so many emails lately I thought I would give her a break at least until monday lol. I am a paranoid rule follower sometimes. Thoughts?
My kiddos grow their own tomatoes.

I think the difference would be supervision and whether the children had open access to these plants or not.

I do agree with Sharlan though... when in doubt, ask.
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Josiegirl 10:22 AM 03-04-2016
They recommend all these really cool things for providers to do with their little kiddos then make it all as hard as he!! to do them.
Lock up everything.
Put it behind 4' high fencing.
Hire armed sentries to guard it. (they may as well!!!)

It all boils down to supervision!!!
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NillaWafers 11:06 AM 03-04-2016
Originally Posted by Thriftylady:
I would put up some T posts and put one of those cheap fences around them. Glad I am legally unlicensed and don't have to deal with such crazy nonsense. That is what supervision is for. I mean it isn't like we would say "here kiddo have some leaves".
I wish there was legally unlicensed, if you watch more than 1 family you have to be licensed here.
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Controlled Chaos 11:24 AM 03-04-2016
Thanks for the responses. I got my pre licensing yard inspection done in January, then our analysts switched who did yard inspections so I was told I wouldn't have one for a whole year. So, I just didn't worry last summer The kids helped me tend the tomatoes, they picked them when ripe, they washed them with the hose and ate them right there. It was so nice. This year I should get a back yard inspection so I am trying to make sure I am following all the rules that aren't so common sense. Hope the front yard is fine.

Thanks again!
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Thriftylady 12:17 PM 03-04-2016
Originally Posted by Controlled Chaos:
Thanks for the responses. I got my pre licensing yard inspection done in January, then our analysts switched who did yard inspections so I was told I wouldn't have one for a whole year. So, I just didn't worry last summer The kids helped me tend the tomatoes, they picked them when ripe, they washed them with the hose and ate them right there. It was so nice. This year I should get a back yard inspection so I am trying to make sure I am following all the rules that aren't so common sense. Hope the front yard is fine.

Thanks again!
They don't do it all at once? When I was licensed in KS, it was all done by the same person on the same day. Talk about finding ways to complicate things.
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Controlled Chaos 12:40 PM 03-04-2016
Originally Posted by Thriftylady:
They don't do it all at once? When I was licensed in KS, it was all done by the same person on the same day. Talk about finding ways to complicate things.
It will be now. But before we had different people for each area. Now my regular analyst will do both, but she was barely trained on outdoor stuff, so when I last saw her she couldn't answer lots of my questions.
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AmyLeigh 01:01 PM 03-04-2016
Originally Posted by NillaWafers:
I wish there was legally unlicensed, if you watch more than 1 family you have to be licensed here.
Me too. I have 2 kids after school/school holidays only and have to deal with licensing because they are not related. My visits are usually in the winter, so I have never had to deal with the tomato issue. Which is good, I guess, because we plant tomatoes every year.
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