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daycare 08:06 AM 09-11-2014
Some of you may recall my DCM that was complaining about my 1.5 mile move. Trying to claim it was taking her 20+minutes to get to my house now, so she needed more flexibility in her drop off and pick up schedule.

Other things went down that got us to where we are now. I gave her notice 2 weeks ago and this month is their last month here.

Every single day since me giving notice has been pure you know what. EVERYDAY it's something else, doing little things to just get under me skin...

I am not a big drinker, but this woman is going to drive me to drink, heck she might even get me to eat chocolate.

This morning she arrives 20minutes before her start time, first one here. Normally I do have another child that starts earlier, but they are out of town for the week.

I saw her arrive, but carried on with my ways in the back of my house like normal. I was still getting dressed too, so I was not going to go answer the door in my current state.

Finally, 15 minutes later sick of hearing her knocking, I open the door saying wow you guys are super early today.

DCM says in a surprised tone, oh are we earlier. I give her the look.

When I moved into this house, I covered my doorbell with a note that says DO NOT RING. I did this for my sanity.

DCM tells me you need to reconsider implementing the bell for adults only. I bite my lip and walk away. DCM leaves.

I go out to sweep the porch and DCM took off my doorbell cover/sign.

I am soooo mad. She has been pulling little annoying stuff like this every day since I gave notice.

She's not breaking any policies, but she is doing little things here and there to just really be a pain in the back side.

You ladies are so clever and witty....what would you do if this were happening to you?
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Kabob 08:13 AM 09-11-2014
Put a new cover on the doorbell with a new sign "No touch. This means you dcm."

No really, tell dcm that her behavior is rude and you have that cover there for both children and adults. If she feels the need to continue being rude by showing before her scheduled time, touching objects she knows she isn't supposed to touch, then maybe she needs to schedule care elsewhere effective immediately or start paying you to take care of another child (an adult sized one).
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KSDC 08:14 AM 09-11-2014
If I could afford it, I would term immediately. Not worth the hassle and stress.

If I needed the money too badly to do an immediate term, then I would just grin and bear. Enforce ALL my policies, to the letter. And continually remind myself only 30 more days...


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hope 08:20 AM 09-11-2014
I would term immediately for taking the sign down. That is over the top. I would confront her about it to make sure she did and it wasn't the wind.
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MOM OF 4 08:21 AM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by KSDC:
If I could afford it, I would term immediately. Not worth the hassle and stress.

If I needed the money too badly to do an immediate term, then I would just grin and bear. Enforce ALL my policies, to the letter. And continually remind myself only 30 more days...

THIS!!!! Her arriving earlier than scheduled time IS breaking your rules.
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daycare 08:25 AM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by Kabob:
Put a new cover on the doorbell with a new sign "No touch. This means you dcm."

No really, tell dcm that her behavior is rude and you have that cover there for both children and adults. If she feels the need to continue being rude by showing before her scheduled time, touching objects she knows she isn't supposed to touch, then maybe she needs to schedule care elsewhere effective immediately or start paying you to take care of another child (an adult sized one).
Thats what my DH said.

I am 100% certain it was her. The sign is just about glued on and there is currently almost zero wind.

Yesterday, she had her sister drop off DCK but this time only 10 minutes earlier and was not the first arrival. She also dropped DCK off with a crumbling donut that went all over my floor right when they walked in. OH BOY was I ever mad. I asked them to step back out so that they did not step in it and bring it further into my house. The sister and DCM are like twins....

I can afford to term, I am just trying to make this as civil as possible.
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Kabob 08:29 AM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
Thats what my DH said.

I am 100% certain it was her. The sign is just about glued on and there is currently almost zero wind.

Yesterday, she had her sister drop off DCK but this time only 10 minutes earlier and was not the first arrival. She also dropped DCK off with a crumbling donut that went all over my floor right when they walked in. OH BOY was I ever mad. I asked them to step back out so that they did not step in it and bring it further into my house. The sister and DCM are like twins....

I can afford to term, I am just trying to make this as civil as possible.
Obviously she wants you to term her immediately so that she can get her money back and get out sooner. I say her wish is your command....give her the remaining balance back and smile big and say "I noticed that you no longer seem to feel that my services are a good fit for your scheduling needs. Here's a refund of your remaining payment. Have a great day! We will miss dck dearly!"
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daycare 08:32 AM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by Kabob:
Obviously she wants you to term her immediately so that she can get her money back and get out sooner. I say her wish is your command....give her the remaining balance back and smile big and say "I noticed that you no longer seem to feel that my services are a good fit for your scheduling needs. Here's a refund of your remaining payment. Have a great day! We will miss dck dearly!"
oh i like the turn of the tables......... yes I am going to do this today at pick up. I am so over this.

Not a joke when I say that every day it is something else. Yes, she is trying to get out earlier. After I deduct all the early fees and late fees, I will refund.
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MOM OF 4 08:35 AM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
oh i like the turn of the tables......... yes I am going to do this today at pick up. I am so over this.

Not a joke when I say that every day it is something else. Yes, she is trying to get out earlier. After I deduct all the early fees and late fees, I will refund.
I wouldn't do anything of the sort with refunding her. She is DELIBERATELY breaking your policies, dropping off early, picking up late, it's habitual. I'd let her know what the PP said but add there are no refunds as per your contract. Unless your contract doesn't have a clause, then you may have to refund something. But get rid of this crazy woman! She's being DRAMATIC and messing with you. That in it of itself, is DISRESPECT, which is an automatic non-refundable reason to term!
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daycare 08:40 AM 09-11-2014
lol my DH just said,

tomorrow since her kid will be first drop off again, hang a note on the door that says.....Daycare closed down, death by doorbell. Then don't answer..




I do have in my contract that if I have to term you for disrespectful behavior, I will keep your deposit and any other fees already paid.

So I could do that, which I know will cause more issues.
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Kabob 08:47 AM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
lol my DH just said,

tomorrow since her kid will be first drop off again, hang a note on the door that says.....Daycare closed down, death by doorbell. Then don't answer..




I do have in my contract that if I have to term you for disrespectful behavior, I will keep your deposit and any other fees already paid.

So I could do that, which I know will cause more issues.
I have a clause saying no refunds as well but paying them to leave is worth it when dealing with such childish behavior.

If she decides to complain to licensing, friends, etc about being kicked out, she'll look like an idiot when she is forced to admit that she got a refund despite her petty behavior...

If I could pay other annoying people in my life to leave me alone, I'd be a broke but happy woman.

I mean...why keep someone who clearly doesn't want to be there when you can find someone who does want to be there and treat you with respect sooner?
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daycare 08:57 AM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by Kabob:
I have a clause saying no refunds as well but paying them to leave is worth it when dealing with such childish behavior.

If she decides to complain to licensing, friends, etc about being kicked out, she'll look like an idiot when she is forced to admit that she got a refund despite her petty behavior...

If I could pay other annoying people in my life to leave me alone, I'd be a broke but happy woman.

I mean...why keep someone who clearly doesn't want to be there when you can find someone who does want to be there and treat you with respect sooner?
I already have their replacement signed up and ready to go.

And putting it that way, you are right. I should just make them go... I will miss DCK, but DCM behavior won't be missed at all.
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TwinKristi 09:02 AM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
lol my DH just said,

tomorrow since her kid will be first drop off again, hang a note on the door that says.....Daycare closed down, death by doorbell. Then don't answer..




I do have in my contract that if I have to term you for disrespectful behavior, I will keep your deposit and any other fees already paid.

So I could do that, which I know will cause more issues.
If you're protected by your contract I would ABSOLUTELY term immediately and keep every penny and say you're lucky I didn't charge you more for your early drop offs and cleaning bill for your son's crumbly donut!

Also- as for the note in the doorbell I would put one that's even bigger like a full sheet in big bold letters "please, out of respect for my home and business, do not use the doorbell"
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Luna 09:14 AM 09-11-2014
That doorbell thing would have done me in. You shouldn't have to cover and put a note on your doorbell to tell adults not to behave like babies. Good grief. I think I'd be done with her.
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taylorw1210 09:21 AM 09-11-2014
Some people have a lot of nerve, and no class!

You'll have to let us know how things go, if you decide to term immediately.
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Shell 10:34 AM 09-11-2014
Oooh, this dcm is really ticking me off just reading about her I would be done with her already- she is doing all if this on purpose. Bye, bye.
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MOM OF 4 10:36 AM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
I already have their replacement signed up and ready to go.

And putting it that way, you are right. I should just make them go... I will miss DCK, but DCM behavior won't be missed at all.
If you have DCK today, do an impromptu going away party and give mom her immediate notice on pickup. She is blatantly disrespecting you. Even if you choose to refund/not refund, she 's GOT TO GO. lol
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Kabob 10:43 AM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
I already have their replacement signed up and ready to go.

And putting it that way, you are right. I should just make them go... I will miss DCK, but DCM behavior won't be missed at all.
Even better. It's sad that parents ruin a perfectly good daycare relationship but it is what it is.

Just keep smiling and do what you need to do. Hopefully this next family will appreciate you more.
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taylorw1210 10:51 AM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by MOM OF 4:
If you have DCK today, do an impromptu going away party and give mom her immediate notice on pickup. She is blatantly disrespecting you. Even if you choose to refund/not refund, she 's GOT TO GO. lol

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Second Home 10:54 AM 09-11-2014
Get a thumbtack and tape it over your doorbell .
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melilley 11:24 AM 09-11-2014
I can't believe she took your sign off, what nerve!
I agree with pp, I wouldn't refund either. She's breaking your policy by being early or late.

Somehow your situation came up when I was talking to dh the other day-I think we were talking about moving to a bigger house. I told him how a parent said you moved too far away and it was only about a mile and a half away. He laughed and said well, that is 20 more minutes a week (sarcastically)
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SignMeUp 11:32 AM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by Second Home:
Get a thumbtack and tape it over your doorbell .
I am SOOO in the mood for some dark humor
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NightOwl 12:12 PM 09-11-2014
Ooooooo how long do we have to wait until she picks up?? Can you video it? Lol.
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daycare 12:16 PM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by Second Home:
Get a thumbtack and tape it over your doorbell .
lol...hahaha just plain eviel...I love it...
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daycare 12:19 PM 09-11-2014
so I decided that I am going to send her an email.....yeah call me bock bock bock..

I am going to tell her that during the term period she is expected to follow and respect all DC rules/policies. Should one more thing happen, I am going to term without refund.

Call me boneless, but I feel maybe I should give her one warning, even though she is a freaking adult.
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EntropyControlSpecialist 12:20 PM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by Wednesday:
Ooooooo how long do we have to wait until she picks up?? Can you video it? Lol.

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Heidi 12:27 PM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
so I decided that I am going to send her an email.....yeah call me bock bock bock..

I am going to tell her that during the term period she is expected to follow and respect all DC rules/policies. Should one more thing happen, I am going to term without refund.

Call me boneless, but I feel maybe I should give her one warning, even though she is a freaking adult.
well, then you are giving fair warning. I won't call that "boneless", but I hope you made it clear that there are NO refunds, at least.
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EntropyControlSpecialist 12:29 PM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
so I decided that I am going to send her an email.....yeah call me bock bock bock..

I am going to tell her that during the term period she is expected to follow and respect all DC rules/policies. Should one more thing happen, I am going to term without refund.

Call me boneless, but I feel maybe I should give her one warning, even though she is a freaking adult.
You are the nicest daycare provider anyone has ever met in the entire world. These people should kiss your feet.
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daycare 12:43 PM 09-11-2014
Originally Posted by EntropyControlSpecialist:
You are the nicest daycare provider anyone has ever met in the entire world. These people should kiss your feet.
lol......I am a really easy going person.. I used to be the biggest push over until I met BC....lol she told me what I didn't want to hear but needed to hear.

I am telling DCM, the next policy/rule that is broken no matter how small the infraction, I will term immediately without refund. Since the entire month is paid for in advance, this would be to the tune of about $600.00. That also includes the deposit.

If that doesn't get her to stop acting like a Coco-loco Nut, then I will show her what will. I already have the *** boots that I want picked out ready to go. If she should get termed immediately, I just might take a pic of those boots and send her a thank you card thanking her for them..... Ok not really, but I can dream.
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NightOwl 01:01 PM 09-11-2014
Fine.... I can wait for the term. But I'm gonna need to see her email response.
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daycare 01:02 PM 09-11-2014
U g g is a bad word ???? Lol
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hope 01:03 PM 09-11-2014
If she shows up early tomorrow, term on the spot at the door. Don't take her kid. If she makes a snotty remark at drop off, turn her right back out the door and tell her she is termed. Nasty reply to your email, tell her not to bother showing tomorrow. If she texts you during the day with a snide remark, tell her to pick up immediately and term.
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daycare 06:55 PM 09-11-2014
DCM picked up on time today and did not say a word.

I ended up moving my planter in front of the door bell allowing zero access to it. A sign hangs above it that says
Don't touch it.

Let's see how it rolls after this.
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NightOwl 10:27 PM 09-11-2014
No reply to the email?? How rude... Does that count toward being rude and immediately termed?

I'm excited to see what the morning brings. I'm living vicariously through you.
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Josiegirl 03:22 AM 09-12-2014
Ya know what gets me? Well aside from how obnoxious this dcm seems to be...what gets me is the fact she's clearly not happy with you, your rules, whatever, yet she continues to bring her child there.
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KidGrind 04:52 AM 09-12-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
Some of you may recall my DCM that was complaining about my 1.5 mile move. Trying to claim it was taking her 20+minutes to get to my house now, so she needed more flexibility in her drop off and pick up schedule.

Other things went down that got us to where we are now. I gave her notice 2 weeks ago and this month is their last month here.

Every single day since me giving notice has been pure you know what. EVERYDAY it's something else, doing little things to just get under me skin...

I am not a big drinker, but this woman is going to drive me to drink, heck she might even get me to eat chocolate.

This morning she arrives 20minutes before her start time, first one here. Normally I do have another child that starts earlier, but they are out of town for the week.

I saw her arrive, but carried on with my ways in the back of my house like normal. I was still getting dressed too, so I was not going to go answer the door in my current state.

Finally, 15 minutes later sick of hearing her knocking, I open the door saying wow you guys are super early today.

DCM says in a surprised tone, oh are we earlier. I give her the look.

When I moved into this house, I covered my doorbell with a note that says DO NOT RING. I did this for my sanity.

DCM tells me you need to reconsider implementing the bell for adults only. I bite my lip and walk away. DCM leaves.

I go out to sweep the porch and DCM took off my doorbell cover/sign.

I am soooo mad. She has been pulling little annoying stuff like this every day since I gave notice.

She's not breaking any policies, but she is doing little things here and there to just really be a pain in the back side.

You ladies are so clever and witty....what would you do if this were happening to you?
Removing the sign would be breaking policy, it is demonstrating a lack of respect.

“Jane I need you to return the sign you removed from my property. If you refuse or unable to comply, I will be unable to keep caring for Johnny. I don’t do disrespect professionally and never in regards to my home. I am sure you understand.”


BIG SMILE.
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NightOwl 06:14 AM 09-12-2014
Originally Posted by Josiegirl:
Ya know what gets me? Well aside from how obnoxious this dcm seems to be...what gets me is the fact she's clearly not happy with you, your rules, whatever, yet she continues to bring her child there.
THIS. If she feels like your program, you, the other kids, WHATEVER, are not a good environment for her child, why would she keep bringing him? We all know you don't, but if you sucked as a provider, what mom would continue to take her kid to a bad (or what SHE perceives as bad) provider?
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AmyKidsCo 07:13 AM 09-12-2014
Originally Posted by KSDC:
If I could afford it, I would term immediately. Not worth the hassle and stress.

Even if we couldn't really afford it, I'd still seriously consider terming because it's not worth the stress.

Originally Posted by Kabob:
If she decides to complain to licensing, friends, etc about being kicked out, she'll look like an idiot when she is forced to admit that she got a refund despite her petty behavior...

If I could pay other annoying people in my life to leave me alone, I'd be a broke but happy woman.
My policies also say no refunds on pre-paid fees, but I'd refund her just so she's got no reason to complain when you term her early.

And I WISH there was a way to pay annoying people to stay away!

Originally Posted by daycare:
I already have their replacement signed up and ready to go.
Then I would DEFINITELY term right away. Refund and be sweet as pie so there's nothing to come back and bite you later.
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daycare 07:14 AM 09-12-2014
Originally Posted by Wednesday:
THIS. If she feels like your program, you, the other kids, WHATEVER, are not a good environment for her child, why would she keep bringing him? We all know you don't, but if you sucked as a provider, what mom would continue to take her kid to a bad (or what SHE perceives as bad) provider?
She's not leaving because she feels that I am not a fit or offer great services. She's leaving because I refused to let her extend her services an additional hour each day without pay.

According to her she's never questioned my abilities as a teacher or a provider.

Another day done let's hope she's grown up a little since reading my email.
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KiddieCahoots 07:39 AM 09-12-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
She's not leaving because she feels that I am not a fit or offer great services. She's leaving because I refused to let her extend her services an additional hour each day without pay.

According to her she's never questioned my abilities as a teacher or a provider.

Another day done let's hope she's grown up a little since reading my email.
I hate passive/aggressive parents, that don't know how to control their own temper tantrums

At least you have the ball back in your court with the warning you emailed her, and you are being more than fair with her.

Please keep us posted
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daycare 07:50 AM 09-12-2014
well dcd dropped off for the first time in the history of them being here. 1 year. I have never really met him before, but it was short sweet and simple. He asked what time does he need to be picked up and I said any time before 5:30.

I find it funny.........
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NightOwl 07:56 AM 09-12-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
She's not leaving because she feels that I am not a fit or offer great services. She's leaving because I refused to let her extend her services an additional hour each day without pay.

According to her she's never questioned my abilities as a teacher or a provider.

Another day done let's hope she's grown up a little since reading my email.
Oohhhhhhh I forgot about that!
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daycare 08:02 AM 09-12-2014
Originally Posted by KiddieCahoots:
I hate passive/aggressive parents, that don't know how to control their own temper tantrums

At least you have the ball back in your court with the warning you emailed her, and you are being more than fair with her.

Please keep us posted
I cant stand when adults throw tantrums. Especially when they are throwing them at tantrum identification professionals...... thats like saying a cook can't identify the difference between salt and sugar......

Yeah I am going to notice that you are acting less mature than your 2.5 year old......
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Second Home 08:56 AM 09-12-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:

Yeah I am going to notice that you are acting less mature than your 2.5 year old......
love it .
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BrooklynM 01:24 PM 09-12-2014
Originally Posted by daycare:
well dcd dropped off for the first time in the history of them being here. 1 year. I have never really met him before, but it was short sweet and simple. He asked what time does he need to be picked up and I said any time before 5:30.

I find it funny.........
Well this is good. He probably knows better than anyone else just how crazy his wife really is, so I would be super nice to the husband so when he goes home, he will be like- well she seems nice to me!

This lady sounds like a total nut case!
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Thriftylady 02:45 PM 09-12-2014
Originally Posted by BrooklynM:
Well this is good. He probably knows better than anyone else just how crazy his wife really is, so I would be super nice to the husband so when he goes home, he will be like- well she seems nice to me!

This lady sounds like a total nut case!

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