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I have asked parents to not drop off between 8 and 8:15 because the bus stop is in my driveway. I stay inside with the littler kids during this time, but keep watch on the bus stop through my front window. The first day of school, a dcd dropped off during this time even though he normally came around 7:50. He said he was sorry and knew the rule but was running late. I thought he would get what my issue was after that as it was very chaotic and I explained again why it can't happen that day before he left. Almost every day since, he continues to drop off right in the middle of bus stop time. He pulls right in even when kids are standing in my driveway. Since I'm inside, I can't stop him from pulling in or deny him entry. I tried blocking my driveway but then he just parks on the private drive next to my house which irritates my neighbors. He knows I'm irked and says sorry everytime but doesn't stop. I feel like there is nothing I can do because I've allowed it for months by this point. Every time I get the nerve up to say something I second guess myself thinking it will sound too rude. I know he's being rude too. Does anyone have a polite way to stop this? It's so unsafe.
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![]() You have allowed this to go on too long. You don't have a policy if you don't enforce it. You have taught him to not respect you. Time to change the lesson plan. ![]()
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I could tell you about my situation a few years back that was almost identical to this... basically it just ends with a blow up at my front door when I told dcm that she should find a different provider. It's not going to change. He feels entitled to do whatever he wants with no regard for you or the safety of those kids. |
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Isn’t it funny how he started this right after you told him not to? I would send a termination letter after I got paid.
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I'd have a hard time not immediately saying "If you are sorry, why do you keep doing it?" or "If you are really sorry, you would stop doing it" and then just standing there while he is uncomfortable and unsure of what to say...
When DCK's try to say "sorry" without much meaning I always say "Don't tell me. SHOW me" Maybe that is what you need to do.... |
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You are definitely going to have to "tell" him in an "or else" kind of way. I know the issue seems small to him but it is huge to you......just like making my parents walk across the porch to my daycare door. I ended up making an animated picture of how to walk across the porch, hold your child's hand, etc. and put it in my handbook and contract. It brought some laughter to the good parents but the ONE hated it because he was the REASON for it!
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So many news stories these last few weeks about children being hit by cars at bus stops. Time to speak up!
What would be worse, a 3 minute conversation to enforce the policy you made or him hitting a child in your driveway?! |
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I would definitely tell him that he needs to stop or care will be terminated. Your daycare kids lives are at risk. This reminds me of a heartbreaking accident that occurred in my area. A daycare provider was outside with the dc kids during pickup, and her husband was their too. They got distracted I believe by one of the kids, and didn't see a young toddler wonder into the driveway as a grandparent was pulling in to pickup another child. The poor girl was hit and killed.
This dad is only thinking of himself, and doesn't seem to have any respect for you or your rules. |
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Thanks for all of your responses. I know what I need to do, it's just the "how" to do it that I stumble over. I tell myself daily to be more firm to him and then I just don't.
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This! You will be ok. I know we all have this struggle. If he leaves remember it wont be a huge loss.
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When I was learning to strengthen my backbone, I used to practice the conversation in the mirror beforehand. It really helped me figure out how and what I wanted to say. Just remind yourself, he is the one in the wrong not you. You shouldn't feel bad for keeping everyone safe.
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Anyways my suggestion to you would be to put a sign on your door, saying something like provider will return at 8:15. Or provider will answer door at 8:15. Or you have arrived during my no drop-off policy time frame, please be advised I will not be opening the store until 8:15, knocking ring the doorbell or even pounding will not get the door open faster. And then just don't answer the door even if you're standing in the living room looking out the window. It will be hard to ignore him but that's what I would do. When you open the door and he asks why you didn't answer, I would reply with something I like the safety of the children at the road and in my home is my priority. That his coming early distract you from safely caring for the children both inside and outside. That his choice to continue coming in during the no drop-off policy is putting the children's safety at risk and if he continues he will be looking for another day care. |
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Notify him in writing that you will be charging him 50 dollars for each violation of dropping off during this time including your neighbors parking spot. 3 violations he is termed. When it costs him he will stop.
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So just to be clear, he comes when the kids are standing in the driveway? So what happens when he pulls in, do the kids have to move? That is complete BS. I would go postal on him. If you find it's hard for you face to face, text him first thing in the morning before he leaves his house and say "reminder, do not arrive between 8:00 and 8:15. Thank you" Do it every day if you have to.
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Wondering how this ended up.
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I actually haven't seen them since the day I posted this due to the baby coming only part time and me taking some time off for Thanksgiving but I'll be sure to update when I talk to him!
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Good luck. I think he's being extremely inconsiderate! I hope you had a great Thanksgiving!
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Guys, I did it again. Today was his first day back since break. He wasn't supposed to come today but dcm texted this morning asking if I could take him. I texted sure, just make sure to avoid the 8-8:15 time for the bus stop and she said "of course!" sure enough, dcd pulls in at 8:09. And I said nothing. Nothing! Totally chickened out. I had my kids standing in the snow off to the side. I totally suck at this. I know there is no advice you can give me and I just have to do it. I just hate it.
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I would do this but I would group text them and say you’ve told them repeatedly that drop off can not be between 8:00-8:15. The next time it happens will result in immediate termination. I would also add on that the driveway must be CLEAR at 8am just to be sure he doesn’t roll in at 7:59 and then want to back out at 8:05. Because he’s obviously petty enough or inconsiderate enough to do it.
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How many times have you asked him to not drop off at that time? It isn't springing it on them if it continues to happen. I would so he knows how serious you are.
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![]() How many warnings have they had, already? This can hardly be a surprise to him.
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I had a dcd that would whip his big truck in my driveway when I was out there playing with the kids. I got pissed and told him that hey we're in the driveway playing, please do not pull in here. Then I put my safety cones out to be sure he didn't. I dont' use the safety cones anymore and he doesn't pull in anymore either. |
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This sounds mean, but you need to ask yourself: are you capable of keeping the children in your care safe? Because right now, you are telling us that you are not capable of doing it.
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It is not harsh to issue an immediate termination warning for repeated blatant disrespect for you, and for endangering the children in your care.
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He may be lucky, but the children he is endangering are not lucky until their care provider stands up for them
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So are you going to talk to him at pickup today?
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"Jim there's something we need to discuss, and I need your help here. I've asked you quite a few times not to drop off during the bus pickup time, and here's the reason why: It's not safe for the kids. We can't have vehicles pulling in and out of the drive while the children are out there. It only takes one mistake, one wrong move, and one of these precious little ones could be hurt, or worse, killed. You wouldn't want that to happen would you? Of course not, and I don't either. That's why I've asked that you not drop between 8 and 8:15. I'm sure you've not considered the safety side of this and that's why you've ignored the rule so far, but honestly, now that we've discussed this, I see no reason that you would want to continue to drop off during this time, and from here on out you need to drop off either before we go out or after we come back in. Can I count on you to put the safety of the children first going forward?" Simple, really. Have the talk with both of them if necessary. |
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So I just have to say that I appreciate everyone's concern with this and trying to put it into perspective for me. You're right that at this point it isn't about me or my inability to feel any sort of discomfort, but for the safety of my kids. Luckily, my neighbor also solidified it for me this afternoon when she texted me at nap today. She was home when she sent her daughter over to my bus stop and witnessed him pull in and then out again while her child was out there. Granted, they were in the yard (in the snow) but it takes a second for one of them to make the decision not to stay there. She wrote me an angry text and asked me to take care of it. So there is my reason right there. I wrote a message to both parents this afternoon explaining my neighbor's and my concern and told them that I know that I have been lax in this, but moving forward I have to be more strict and dcm responded. Now at least I have the rule in place again and can go from there. I actually do appreciate your bluntness and am glad that you guys don't think this is a silly rule. I can't control where the bus stop is located, and while it's my house, I have to ensure safety.
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I've been following your story even though I didn't reply and I just want to say GOOD FOR YOU! Do you feel any better? I sure hope so. And I really hope that you say something to him if he does it again the next time he arrives.
Maybe have something already prepared that you can rehearse just in case he does it again? Having something prepared can sometimes make it less stressful. "Frank, I know I mentioned this to you guys several times and I thought I had made it clear that it could not continue anymore. I don't want to have to choose between keeping my neighbors and my school age clients happy or your family." You may never have to use your speech but if you do you'll be prepared |
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Going forward, realize the more you use your backbone, the easier it gets. It’s your business. When something doesn’t work for you, speak up. If a family balks, you didn’t need or want them anyway.
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I did daycare for 18 years until my health made me quit this year, however, my own kids were in childcare for years before that and the minute I thought the provider wasn't doing her job (in one case my youngest was injured and could have died due to the providers negligence), I termed immediately and moved on to someone I could trust. I don't mean to sound harsh, but you also have to think about what kind of reputation you might be getting for being a softy, because words travel thru families. Next time the J***A** pulls the driveway stunt, terminate... you need that backbone honey, start using it |
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Just was wondering how you were doing with this since you texted them. Did they respect your request?
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He’s trying to “show you who is boss”. Incredibly immature. He does not like that you’re putting your foot down and he is not getting things his way. I probably would term such a person! I like the idea of changing the baby’s clothes into more appropriate ones, but honestly, I would be concerned that he will NOT bring your clothes back to you.
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I've been following this thread as well...he deserves to be gone!
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Did he do it again today with the clothes? What did he say when you gave him the bag back yesterday with the clothes in it?
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