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SunshineMama 05:31 AM 03-18-2014
I used to care for a set of twins 1.5 years ago, and they left to go to preschool. Their mom asked me the other day, if I could watch them for the summer. My husband pressured me bc of the money, to say yes. BUT, I only said I could take them 2 days a week. (Those 2 days are the only days that I would have 1 other dck, and I was planning on actually getting to leave the house with my kids and dck and go to the zoo, etc). If I take these 2, I will be at maximum capacity.

When I watched the kids before, I hated my job, was always exhausted, under pressure. They didn't listen well, always fought with each other. The parents had the longest drop offs and pick ups. They will be turning 5 this summer, so they are older, but that means that they probably wont nap. I don't know what to do. They are THE family that, after I stopped watching their kids, I didn't hate my job. I just don't know what to do.

Should I take them?

I hate being pressured by my husband. If I took them the other days, I would be watching 9-10 kids in one day. The most I have ever watched is 7 and even though there would be 4 kids over age 6, it is still a lot of damage and destruction for my house, and a lot of work for me.

What would you do?
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llpa 05:47 AM 03-18-2014
I feel like you answered your own question. They don't sound like they have a great track record and if they are older non nappers and still fighting etc. Then that's a really long day for you. I would either pass or give it a two week trial period and be up front with parent that you aren't sure about it. You don't have to say the real reason, you can make it about age or your schedule etc.
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EntropyControlSpecialist 05:54 AM 03-18-2014
7 kids, to me, is a VERY manageable number and feels relaxing and fun.
9-10 kids, to me, is much louder and a little more crazy. It is not as relaxing and fun.

Besides that, you said you hated your job when they were there. Are you willing to HATE your job for the entire summer??? Is that beneficial to your own family?

It sounds like you know what you want to do and need to do but your husband is pressuring you to do otherwise. I would tell him no and not accept them into care.
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craftymissbeth 05:59 AM 03-18-2014
I wouldn't take them at all just based on the fact that they made you dislike your own business while you had them. I definitely wouldn't expect them to have changed either... their behavior won't have changed unless it was a big enough problem for the parents.

Last month I started feeling the burn out everyone here talks about. I termed my problem child (a screamer) and the next week all signs of burn out we're gone and I love my business again. I will never ever consider taking her again. In fact, I feel so bad for her new provider.
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SunshineMama 06:12 AM 03-18-2014
Originally Posted by craftymissbeth:
I wouldn't take them at all just based on the fact that they made you dislike your own business while you had them. I definitely wouldn't expect them to have changed either... their behavior won't have changed unless it was a big enough problem for the parents.

Last month I started feeling the burn out everyone here talks about. I termed my problem child (a screamer) and the next week all signs of burn out we're gone and I love my business again. I will never ever consider taking her again. In fact, I feel so bad for her new provider.
Exactly! They are the family that left and the clouds parted and angels started to sing.
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Cat Herder 06:28 AM 03-18-2014
Q. What would you do?

It would depend on WHY my husband was working against me. Is it a debt division thing (he thinks you are not pulling your weight?) or is he overspending and dumping a larger workload on you?

This is not really a daycare problem, it is a marriage problem, IMHO.
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Unregistered 06:33 AM 03-18-2014
I would cut back any household expenses I could before taking them on.

Further talk with your husband with open communication on both parts is needed.
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Scribbles 06:50 AM 03-18-2014
Originally Posted by SunshineMama:
I used to care for a set of twins 1.5 years ago, and they left to go to preschool. Their mom asked me the other day, if I could watch them for the summer. My husband pressured me bc of the money, to say yes. BUT, I only said I could take them 2 days a week. (Those 2 days are the only days that I would have 1 other dck, and I was planning on actually getting to leave the house with my kids and dck and go to the zoo, etc). If I take these 2, I will be at maximum capacity.

When I watched the kids before, I hated my job, was always exhausted, under pressure. They didn't listen well, always fought with each other. The parents had the longest drop offs and pick ups. They will be turning 5 this summer, so they are older, but that means that they probably wont nap. I don't know what to do. They are THE family that, after I stopped watching their kids, I didn't hate my job. I just don't know what to do.

Should I take them?

I hate being pressured by my husband. If I took them the other days, I would be watching 9-10 kids in one day. The most I have ever watched is 7 and even though there would be 4 kids over age 6, it is still a lot of damage and destruction for my house, and a lot of work for me.

What would you do?
I also think you already know what you want to do. Sounds like it's your DH that will have to accept that its you that does this job. Easy for him to say to take on more kids when he isn't stuck at home all day with them.

Can I ask, what state are you in that you are allowed to have 9-10 kids in one day while being legally unlicensed?
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KIDZRMYBIZ 06:50 AM 03-18-2014
Originally Posted by SunshineMama:
Exactly! They are the family that left and the clouds parted and angels started to sing.
I had this same feeling but about not taking SA anymore. It is still very hard to not pine the additional $2500/yr I could be making, but I guess that's what my sanity is worth, $2500!

My DH, who is so supportive and everything wonderful, would like me to make the extra income, too, but he says he doesn't miss the bitching (from me) that comes with the SA.

For you, I would advice a frank conversation with hubs, and not take back that monster duo!
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KIDZRMYBIZ 06:54 AM 03-18-2014
Originally Posted by Scribbles:
Can I ask, what state are you in that you are allowed to have 9-10 kids in one day while being legally unlicensed?
We can do that in NE. 2 have to be SA, and then of the other 8 only 2 can be babies instead of 3, for a max of 10 (including all own under age 8).

One summer, I had 14 kids plus me! 8 full-time mixed age (one was mine), plus 2 SA, plus 2 "helpers" (over age 13), plus my own 2 over age 8. It was so busy, but also pretty fun! I liked that summer.
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cheerfuldom 06:58 AM 03-18-2014
Originally Posted by Cat Herder:
Q. What would you do?

It would depend on WHY my husband was working against me. Is it a debt division thing (he thinks you are not pulling your weight?) or is he overspending and dumping a larger workload on you?

This is not really a daycare problem, it is a marriage problem, IMHO.
agree
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Crazy8 07:14 AM 03-18-2014
I wouldn't take back a family like you are describing, no way!! But I agree that this is something more of a marriage issue than a daycare one. We all know the daycare answer to this question… but only you and your DH know the financial background to why he might push you to do this. Honestly, I have learned my sanity is worth more than the money often - but I probably would put up with it if it meant putting food on my table or I was really desperate for clients.

I have a SA family now, I don't usually take SA but they are a family I had for 10 years prior so I did it. I have decided its not worth the trouble, sure the extra money is nice but its not necessary for me to live so I am terming in June and not taking them back next year.
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Blackcat31 07:19 AM 03-18-2014
Originally Posted by KIDZRMYBIZ:
We can do that in NE. 2 have to be SA, and then of the other 8 only 2 can be babies instead of 3, for a max of 10 (including all own under age 8).

One summer, I had 14 kids plus me! 8 full-time mixed age (one was mine), plus 2 SA, plus 2 "helpers" (over age 13), plus my own 2 over age 8. It was so busy, but also pretty fun! I liked that summer.
You can have that many kids without being licensed?

What's the point of getting licensed in your state then?
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spinnymarie 07:20 AM 03-18-2014
I agree with everyone that NO I would not take them, AND if it is an issue of money, you can take some other kids instead.
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SunshineMama 07:24 AM 03-18-2014
The money issue comes from him working a commission based job. He makes the majority of the money, so the more I make, the less pressure it takes off of him, which is honestly the bottom line about why he wants me to take on more kids.

I have told him in the past to just trust me (thanks to blackcats wisdom about a previous post), and he accepted that before. But I guess he forgot.

I already have 3, 5 and under of my own. I do 95% of the care around the clock for our kids, handle all of the household paperwork, and 95% of the household chores, and I do daycare. He makes more money, and he works hard while at work, and when he sees me at home, it seems like it's so easy. I don't think anyone will ever know how mundane daycare can be- it's not intellectually hard to have to clean up food off of the floor, change diapers, etc, but it is very mentally exhausting, and stressful. The stress of having to play referee with those 2 kids is too much.

And I already picked up 2 extra part timers over the summer.

To answer the question of the post about numbers:

We can watch 6, if they are under 6. Over 6, it does not matter. I would have several kids over 6, so I would still be able to operate. BUT, like I said, I don't want that many!
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Cat Herder 07:43 AM 03-18-2014
Are there any expenses you can cut out? Is your DH looking for a salaried/hourly position? Any accounts that can be combined for a lower interest rate to quicker payoff? Anything you can sell? A part time (evening, weekend) job you can do outside of the home while HE takes care of his kids?

NOBODY here will argue doing childcare at home is draining. It reaches the point of ridiculous at times, even... We make it look easy and others think dumping more on us is no big deal.

**I am spit balling for a longterm solution for you two. Marriage/Financially. I remember those early days.**

We simply put the bills on the table, split them equally, and then each can decide how they want to earn $*** per week to cover their half. Any new debt taken on is a personal choice/responsibility. I spend less, so I work less and save more. Do I feel guilty about it? No It works for us.
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SunshineMama 07:58 AM 03-18-2014
I need to get through the next 4 years. Then my last baby will be in kindergarten, and I can go back to working outside of the home. IF I can get a job- I will have had a 5 year break (haha- break is such a crap word, bc Ive worked harder art this and my kids than any other professional job in my life).

I have cut all unnecessary bills, and unplug all appliances when not in use. I even am an egg donor, which brings in 5,000 when I am selected. I still cant get my grocery bill down... Hopefully I can grow some veggies in the summer and that will help a bit. I've looked at blogs, am on emeals, etc, but cant get lower than 500 a month for a family of 5 and 3 additional daycare kids. I only eat organic/all natural though, so Im sure that's part of it.

Last time this came up (dh wanted me to take on another infant), dh and I had a talk, and he cut a lot of his extra hobbies. I told him to trust me that I cant take another right now, and he reluctantly backed down. I also showed him how much I am saving the family, by caring for our 3 kids instead of having them go to a daycare or nanny. I have to keep reminding him, it seems. We are solid and love each other a lot, but we do put pressure on each other. I am just as guilty of asking him how he is doing at work.

I would even be willing to take 1 extra, older dck. Just not the terrible twosome.
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sahm1225 12:06 PM 03-18-2014
Say no!!

My dh is the same way 'how much harder can it be to add one or two more?!' Drives me crazy. So this past weekend I had my nieces & nephews over (total
Of 6 kids- 2,4 & 6 our kids and 5,6,8 nephews/niece). And I left him alone with them while I folded laundry. It was at most 20 minutes and he was so
Flustered. He's bald, but I swear his hair was messed up!

I would just think back about how much you hated your life back then and say NO. Tell the mom that you're sorry but you're full for the summer. If they were naughty when you had them full time, imagine how they are now!
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