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hgonzalez 12:30 PM 04-03-2013
Well, here I go again. A brand new family with great kids started Monday. Today, the little girl started acting droopy and lying around and also did not eat her lunch. I felt her forehead, she felt warm, so I took her temp. It was 101.5 with a forehead thermometer (temporal artery).
I then checked another child as a double check...it read 98.9.
I called the Mom, she wrapped things up at work and picked her up. Within 30minutes of picking her up, she texts me and says she is fine and her temp is below 100. She also said she has only had a fever once before in her lifetime.
(she is 4.5 years old).
Now she wants to know if she can come back tomorrow as she seems fine. My policy says no, but I don't want to upset this family their first week.
Does anyone else use this type of thermometer? Am I doing something wrong? Or is this just another parent that wants to send a sick kid to daycare?
I then checked another child as a double check...it read 98.9.
I called the Mom, she wrapped things up at work and picked her up. Within 30minutes of picking her up, she texts me and says she is fine and her temp is below 100. She also said she has only had a fever once before in her lifetime.
(she is 4.5 years old).
Now she wants to know if she can come back tomorrow as she seems fine. My policy says no, but I don't want to upset this family their first week.
Does anyone else use this type of thermometer? Am I doing something wrong? Or is this just another parent that wants to send a sick kid to daycare?
Willow 12:35 PM 04-03-2013
Is your house warm? Was she just outside, sleeping or running around by chance?
hgonzalez 12:36 PM 04-03-2013
No, she was lying down saying she was so tired. If my house was warm, wouldn't the other kids register as warmer too?
rmc20021 12:39 PM 04-03-2013
I have a 4 yo who is NEVER sick...even when everyone else was sick all the time. Today he came and complained about his head hurting, which is a good indicator a child has a temp. Sure enough his temp was 100 degrees. As he had no other symptoms I didn't send him home, just text mom so she was aware.
Did your dck have ANY other symptoms? Not sure where you are but I noticed there's been kids running low grade fevers the last week or two...must be something going around.
Did your dck have ANY other symptoms? Not sure where you are but I noticed there's been kids running low grade fevers the last week or two...must be something going around.
CedarCreek 12:39 PM 04-03-2013
Too bad Mom can't send you a pic of the temp being below 100...
That's odd. I would think that Mom just wants to get back to work and might dope and drop her on you tomorrow.
I suppose if you want to take that risk, you will know around lunch time of she has been doped and dropped. I would want her to stay out the 24 hours though.
That's odd. I would think that Mom just wants to get back to work and might dope and drop her on you tomorrow.
I suppose if you want to take that risk, you will know around lunch time of she has been doped and dropped. I would want her to stay out the 24 hours though.
Starburst 12:49 PM 04-03-2013
What does your policy say about children who are unable participate in regular activities? Because if she is laying down and says she doesn't feel good and is too ill to participate and has to be excluded from the rest of the group it can be hard for you to do your regular routines.
nannyde 01:01 PM 04-03-2013
I always take TWO temperatures...with two different thermometers... I do two axillary temperatures and then photograph the thermometers. I send the picture of the thermometers to the parent. Now that I have a video phone I videotape the temperature taking and send the video.
When they say the kid had no fever at home after pick up I tell them that in twenty years I have never once had a kid I sent home with a fever HAVE a fever once they were home unless it is a Friday or the child's last day of care that week. As soon as they are home they are up running around like Jack the Bear and the fever drops below normal. Happens EVERY time (cept Fridays)
I can only go on what "I" know and I MUST exclude. All children attending must be fever free for 24 hours without the aid of medication.
When they say the kid had no fever at home after pick up I tell them that in twenty years I have never once had a kid I sent home with a fever HAVE a fever once they were home unless it is a Friday or the child's last day of care that week. As soon as they are home they are up running around like Jack the Bear and the fever drops below normal. Happens EVERY time (cept Fridays)
I can only go on what "I" know and I MUST exclude. All children attending must be fever free for 24 hours without the aid of medication.
nannyde 01:03 PM 04-03-2013
Originally Posted by CedarCreek:
Too bad Mom can't send you a pic of the temp being below 100...
That's odd. I would think that Mom just wants to get back to work and might dope and drop her on you tomorrow.
I suppose if you want to take that risk, you will know around lunch time of she has been doped and dropped. I would want her to stay out the 24 hours though.
She most likely came doped up and it wore off.Too bad Mom can't send you a pic of the temp being below 100...
That's odd. I would think that Mom just wants to get back to work and might dope and drop her on you tomorrow.
I suppose if you want to take that risk, you will know around lunch time of she has been doped and dropped. I would want her to stay out the 24 hours though.
TheGoodLife 01:06 PM 04-03-2013
Originally Posted by nannyde:
She most likely came doped up and it wore off.
I agree- especially with the timing! I would say sorry, you have a fever policy in the contract and I would stick to the policy or else she'll try to pull it again!!!She most likely came doped up and it wore off.
CedarCreek 01:08 PM 04-03-2013
Originally Posted by nannyde:
She most likely came doped up and it wore off.
True that.She most likely came doped up and it wore off.
daycarediva 01:31 PM 04-03-2013
I'm with nannyde, she probably came doped up and it wore off and Mom is trying to get through the week without taking time off.
No fever for 24 hours. I would take her temp at the door tomorrow, and then ask the child in front of the Mom if she had any medicine.
At 4.5 most kids have had more than one fever. That seems far fetched.
Honestly, it's the first week, if they are already doping/dropping and/or trying to get around your policies, do you really want to continue care?
No fever for 24 hours. I would take her temp at the door tomorrow, and then ask the child in front of the Mom if she had any medicine.
At 4.5 most kids have had more than one fever. That seems far fetched.
Honestly, it's the first week, if they are already doping/dropping and/or trying to get around your policies, do you really want to continue care?
daycare 01:37 PM 04-03-2013
heres my two cents..
New or not, rules are rules.
i would tell dcm sorry, but the rules states no return for a full 24 hours without the aide of medication. I would then tell her that I would give her that same respect of sending home a child with a illness or fever so that her child would not end up sick too. As BC taught me.... we can't focus on WHY the child has a fever, we are not doctors.
We can only do our job by making sure that a child is excluded from care when they have __________________(fill in the blank) symptoms.
Also, I tell parents that when they start their children in my care, that often the children may get sick due to being exposed to new germs. I recommend that they talk to their doctors about starting DCK on a good daily multivitamin.
New or not, rules are rules.
i would tell dcm sorry, but the rules states no return for a full 24 hours without the aide of medication. I would then tell her that I would give her that same respect of sending home a child with a illness or fever so that her child would not end up sick too. As BC taught me.... we can't focus on WHY the child has a fever, we are not doctors.
We can only do our job by making sure that a child is excluded from care when they have __________________(fill in the blank) symptoms.
Also, I tell parents that when they start their children in my care, that often the children may get sick due to being exposed to new germs. I recommend that they talk to their doctors about starting DCK on a good daily multivitamin.
wdmmom 01:41 PM 04-03-2013
Originally Posted by daycarediva:
I'm with nannyde, she probably came doped up and it wore off and Mom is trying to get through the week without taking time off.
No fever for 24 hours. I would take her temp at the door tomorrow, and then ask the child in front of the Mom if she had any medicine.
At 4.5 most kids have had more than one fever. That seems far fetched.
Honestly, it's the first week, if they are already doping/dropping and/or trying to get around your policies, do you really want to continue care?
I'm with nannyde, she probably came doped up and it wore off and Mom is trying to get through the week without taking time off.
No fever for 24 hours. I would take her temp at the door tomorrow, and then ask the child in front of the Mom if she had any medicine.
At 4.5 most kids have had more than one fever. That seems far fetched.
Honestly, it's the first week, if they are already doping/dropping and/or trying to get around your policies, do you really want to continue care?
I don't worry about parents taking off work. I don't care if it's their first week with me, their first week on the job or if they're at the corporate headquarters.
A sick kid is a sick kid and they are the ones that need to plan for it.
I'd bet the bank that they doped and dropped. No admission tomorrow. Sorry. Rules are rules.
Clearly she didn't feel well if she was lethargic at your house and mom miraculously says she's fine. Ahh...the amazing effects of Tylenol!!!
AmyKidsCo 03:15 PM 04-03-2013
Originally Posted by Mama2Bella:
I agree- especially with the timing! I would say sorry, you have a fever policy in the contract and I would stick to the policy or else she'll try to pull it again!!!
ITA - stick with your policies. Add a "spoonful of sugar" by being very sympathetic and understanding about the inconvenience. I blame my licensor and licensing rules for things like this - and she's totally OK with it.I agree- especially with the timing! I would say sorry, you have a fever policy in the contract and I would stick to the policy or else she'll try to pull it again!!!
hgonzalez 03:15 PM 04-03-2013
It turns out it is an ear infection. Do you all exclude for that?
daycare 03:20 PM 04-03-2013
yes....they have to still be fever free for 24 hours without the aide of medicaiton
I also require that they are on the antibiotics for a full 24 hours before they can return ..
there are so many what ifs..
what if they have an allergic reaction to the meds
what if they are still in pain
and so on.....................
I also require that they are on the antibiotics for a full 24 hours before they can return ..
there are so many what ifs..
what if they have an allergic reaction to the meds
what if they are still in pain
and so on.....................
hgonzalez 03:38 PM 04-03-2013
I just called the Mom and told her that I have to exclude kids from daycare based on symptoms and explained why. She ended up being super nice about it and understanding.
Why do I panic so much about this stuff?
Why do I panic so much about this stuff?
daycare 03:40 PM 04-03-2013
Originally Posted by hgonzalez:
I just called the Mom and told her that I have to exclude kids from daycare based on symptoms and explained why. She ended up being super nice about it and understanding.
Why do I panic so much about this stuff?
we all do it.... I have been doing this for 10 years and still do...I just called the Mom and told her that I have to exclude kids from daycare based on symptoms and explained why. She ended up being super nice about it and understanding.
Why do I panic so much about this stuff?
it's the fear of not knowing how they will react....YOu will get better at doing it the more you have to do it and you will have to do it more........
good job.....bet you must feel so much better.....