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MarinaVanessa 12:59 PM 02-04-2013
Okay so I know that he's just a baby but I have never seen anything like what this baby does and I'm at a loss for words or for what to think. Maybe someone can shed some light???
I have a 4mo infant that started in mid January so he's fairly new, he's been here only for 3 weeks. Since the beginning I noticed that he was a little on the high needs side of things but I didn't think anything of it considering that he is new, he's an only child, has been home with mom until now and probably held all the time.
It's all pretty standard stuff that you would expect from a new infant like this getting acclimated to a new environment and routine except for one quirk. He has this way of "complaining" in small bursts of grunts and whines that I've never seen another child do. And there excessive, as in he does it the majority of the time for long periods of time.
For example today: gets dropped off at 7:30am and dcm brings him in his car seat asleep. He's fine, dcm leaves. I take him out and put him in pack n play and he starts to grunt (sounds like little pushes) he continues to do it in his sleep for another 45 minutes until he wakes up. Looks around and starts to whine (sounds like a puppy) for a few minutes (I'm changing diapers) then starts to grunt loudly in long bursts and then cries loudly when I don't go to him immediately. I pick him up finally and he stops crying but then starts to grunt unhappily for 15 minutes (while I'm holding him). Doesn't want bottle, doesn't want pacifier. I set him down on changing table to check his diaper and he starts to puppy whine again while I change his wet diaper. Pick him up again and he goes back to grunting. I set him down on infant play gym so I can serve snack and he immediately starts to grunt very loudly for the next 10 minutes until he finally starts to scream cry loudly for another 5 minutes or so. I set snack out and pick him up and he goes back to puppy whining. I offer him a bottle again which he drinks all while still grunting. I burp him and he falls asleep but still grunting in his sleep with a frown on his face and his bottom lip protruding in a pout. ????
Not sure what to make of it or what to do??? I've never seen this before and it's not improving. It's not getting worse either but it's not improving either.
He's PT comes twice a week from 7:30am-12pm. I talked to DCM about having him come more often (she agrees that he's a high needs baby) but I'm not sure that I can handle having him for longer hours or an extra day (I have another infant of 6 months on the other 3 days of the week).
Any ideas or suggestions? Anyone have a kid like this?
I have a 4mo infant that started in mid January so he's fairly new, he's been here only for 3 weeks. Since the beginning I noticed that he was a little on the high needs side of things but I didn't think anything of it considering that he is new, he's an only child, has been home with mom until now and probably held all the time.
It's all pretty standard stuff that you would expect from a new infant like this getting acclimated to a new environment and routine except for one quirk. He has this way of "complaining" in small bursts of grunts and whines that I've never seen another child do. And there excessive, as in he does it the majority of the time for long periods of time.
For example today: gets dropped off at 7:30am and dcm brings him in his car seat asleep. He's fine, dcm leaves. I take him out and put him in pack n play and he starts to grunt (sounds like little pushes) he continues to do it in his sleep for another 45 minutes until he wakes up. Looks around and starts to whine (sounds like a puppy) for a few minutes (I'm changing diapers) then starts to grunt loudly in long bursts and then cries loudly when I don't go to him immediately. I pick him up finally and he stops crying but then starts to grunt unhappily for 15 minutes (while I'm holding him). Doesn't want bottle, doesn't want pacifier. I set him down on changing table to check his diaper and he starts to puppy whine again while I change his wet diaper. Pick him up again and he goes back to grunting. I set him down on infant play gym so I can serve snack and he immediately starts to grunt very loudly for the next 10 minutes until he finally starts to scream cry loudly for another 5 minutes or so. I set snack out and pick him up and he goes back to puppy whining. I offer him a bottle again which he drinks all while still grunting. I burp him and he falls asleep but still grunting in his sleep with a frown on his face and his bottom lip protruding in a pout. ????
Not sure what to make of it or what to do??? I've never seen this before and it's not improving. It's not getting worse either but it's not improving either.
He's PT comes twice a week from 7:30am-12pm. I talked to DCM about having him come more often (she agrees that he's a high needs baby) but I'm not sure that I can handle having him for longer hours or an extra day (I have another infant of 6 months on the other 3 days of the week).
Any ideas or suggestions? Anyone have a kid like this?
daycarediva 02:15 PM 02-04-2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QEdTGfvEhY
Is it like this??? Take off his shirt. Watch his chest. My son grunted when he was having difficulty breathing and he was having chest retractions while grunting the majority of the time.
I hope it's not that!!!
Is it like this??? Take off his shirt. Watch his chest. My son grunted when he was having difficulty breathing and he was having chest retractions while grunting the majority of the time.
I hope it's not that!!!
daycarediva 02:16 PM 02-04-2013
Willow 02:29 PM 02-04-2013
http://www.infantreflux.org/forum/fo...s.asp?TID=5855
GERD, allergies and DGE can all cause those symptoms.
I would recommend to the parents that they consult the baby's pediatrician and possibly request a swallow study be done.
GERD, allergies and DGE can all cause those symptoms.
I would recommend to the parents that they consult the baby's pediatrician and possibly request a swallow study be done.
MarinaVanessa 02:41 PM 02-04-2013
Okay the second one sort of sounded like it at first until I could hear the wheezing. This baby doesn't wheeze and his chest doesn't heave like that. I don't think it's breathing problems and I've noticed that he does it mainly when he is unhappy such as when he wants to be picked up and I can't immediately get to him.
I've been experimenting with him today and I found that If I don't pick him up and hold him right away he will grunt louder and louder, if I pick him up he will stop immediately (but I have to be standing and moving around). If I just pick him up and I'm on the floor (kneeling) he will whine like a puppy as if he is unhappy ??? he has a sad pouty face on. If I put him back down he goes back to grunting (it's almost like a growl) and if I take too long to pick him up he starts to scream/cry. At that point if I still can't get to him quickly and let him cry for more than a few minutes he completely goes wild and starts to scream and at that point even if I were to pick him up it can take me up to 1 hr and 15 minutes to get him to calm down. It's literally like a screaching cry that's repetitive over and over again ...
RRaaghh! RRaaghh! RRaaghh! RRaaghh! RRaaghh! RRaaghh! RRaaghh! nonstop.
At that point after I finally got him to calm down he went back to puppy whining until he fell asleep (I had to swaddle him and give him a bottle) and then went back to grunting for about 10 minutes then stopped once he was in deep sleep.
He does this with DCM too but she of course has the ability to pick him up and carry him immediately, I don't have that luxury. This baby wants to be picked up within a minute or two of starting to cry.
He just went to the Dr's and DCM said that nothing seemed out of ordinary. She will ask about it again next month when he goes in to get vaccinated. At this point I think it's just his way of asking for attention but he sometimes does it when he's just hanging out comfortably playing in the baby gym or on his tummy. He's content but still grunts. He rarely babbles like a baby ... just makes grunting noises. Weird.
And after the majority of the morning of repetedly hearing the same thing over and over it's a little tedious lol ... think ....
Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr
Same tone, same length for long periods of time.
I've been experimenting with him today and I found that If I don't pick him up and hold him right away he will grunt louder and louder, if I pick him up he will stop immediately (but I have to be standing and moving around). If I just pick him up and I'm on the floor (kneeling) he will whine like a puppy as if he is unhappy ??? he has a sad pouty face on. If I put him back down he goes back to grunting (it's almost like a growl) and if I take too long to pick him up he starts to scream/cry. At that point if I still can't get to him quickly and let him cry for more than a few minutes he completely goes wild and starts to scream and at that point even if I were to pick him up it can take me up to 1 hr and 15 minutes to get him to calm down. It's literally like a screaching cry that's repetitive over and over again ...
RRaaghh! RRaaghh! RRaaghh! RRaaghh! RRaaghh! RRaaghh! RRaaghh! nonstop.
At that point after I finally got him to calm down he went back to puppy whining until he fell asleep (I had to swaddle him and give him a bottle) and then went back to grunting for about 10 minutes then stopped once he was in deep sleep.
He does this with DCM too but she of course has the ability to pick him up and carry him immediately, I don't have that luxury. This baby wants to be picked up within a minute or two of starting to cry.
He just went to the Dr's and DCM said that nothing seemed out of ordinary. She will ask about it again next month when he goes in to get vaccinated. At this point I think it's just his way of asking for attention but he sometimes does it when he's just hanging out comfortably playing in the baby gym or on his tummy. He's content but still grunts. He rarely babbles like a baby ... just makes grunting noises. Weird.
And after the majority of the morning of repetedly hearing the same thing over and over it's a little tedious lol ... think ....
Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr Grrr
Same tone, same length for long periods of time.
EntropyControlSpecialist 03:24 PM 02-04-2013
Holy cow that would make for a long day.
Unregistered 03:51 PM 02-04-2013
I have a 7 month old who started on 11/26. She has been just as you described since she's been here. She grunts during her bottle feeding (breast milk) and refuses food. It takes an hour to feed her a bottle. She whines constantly and the dad today acknowledged this. We go for a walk in the stroller and she screams. Now that she is able to sit up, she can go for a little while without complaining. I have seriously considered terminating her several times. The other babies are happy and go with the flow most of the time. I hope it gets better, but I think the parents are so attentive that it's just going to be this way until she has to go to preschool. I ask parents to move their children to another setting when the babies are about 15-18 months old then I get a whole new round of infants.
MarinaVanessa 03:55 PM 02-04-2013
Originally Posted by EntropyControlSpecialist:
Holy cow that would make for a long day.
You're telling me Holy cow that would make for a long day.
. Thank goodness he's only here twice a week for four and a half hours a day. I've been working with him like I do with all of my new infants and trying to get him used to not having his demands met immediately but so far I have seen no improvements when usually it would be at least a little bit better. I will talk to him to sooth him and make eye contact with him and such so that he knows that I see him and aware of him but make him wait a few minutes each time that he starts to fuss to try to get him used to being in group care but after an hour of non-stop repetitive grunts it's like nails on a chalkboard. I'll give it another few weeks and see how it goes. He's here only for this semester (while DCM goes to school) and if I don't see improvements in his needing to be held or a reduction in his grunting and screaming I don't think I'll be extending their contract if she goes back for summer or fall session
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Woodard 01:12 PM 03-12-2021
I know this is a 8 year old thread, but I was searching for reasons my normally happy baby started becoming fussy, had to be held, and was constantly grunting, and I run across this thread. Turns out she had two ear infections. She also was having trouble sleeping and wasn't interested in eating. She wasn't crying at all, just fussy, unhappy, and grunting.
I wonder if the original baby in question had some sort of underlying infection - yeast, UTI, ear, etc. and was generally "mellow" and therefore their experssion of pain was just fussiness/grunting.
I wonder if the original baby in question had some sort of underlying infection - yeast, UTI, ear, etc. and was generally "mellow" and therefore their experssion of pain was just fussiness/grunting.