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LittleScholars 11:27 AM 03-06-2017
I have a kiddo out today. Mom just texted to say he tested positive with the flu. The dr. said if he is fever free he can return Wednesday (he only attends M, W, F). He is starting tamiflu this afternoon.

I have my own two month old in care, and I just closed for a long maternity leave. Both of those are an extra incentive to want to keep germs out and remain open.

Coming back fever and symptom free doesn't go against my policies, but I also want to make sure I'm not prematurely allowing him back. I asked that he has no fever and bodily fluids (coughs, in particular) are completely under control.

Would you let this friend back?
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mommyneedsadayoff 11:34 AM 03-06-2017
I would say no. I started the flu last wed and i am just starting to perk up, but the coughing is still tough. If his flu is anything like what has been going around, he will not feel well enough by wed....trust me!
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LittleScholars 11:44 AM 03-06-2017
Originally Posted by mommyneedsadayoff:
I would say no. I started the flu last wed and i am just starting to perk up, but the coughing is still tough. If his flu is anything like what has been going around, he will not feel well enough by wed....trust me!
I bet you're right. And since I'm a crazy first time mom I called the pediatrician. He said no way should they have contact for 4 days. I'm glad my gut said no. That would be miserable if other kiddos got it.

Ugh, how does one know they have the flu vs. a cold?! Other than getting tested, of course.
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mommyneedsadayoff 11:51 AM 03-06-2017
Originally Posted by LittleScholars:
I bet you're right. And since I'm a crazy first time mom I called the pediatrician. He said no way should they have contact for 4 days. I'm glad my gut said no. That would be miserable if other kiddos got it.

Ugh, how does one know they have the flu vs. a cold?! Other than getting tested, of course.
It is miserable and you def dont want it around little infants. Just be weary of any medicating before he comes next. I never use over the counter stuff, but i have been popping pills like crazy just to get by and most contain fever reducers. I would just make sure mom knows that he needs to be fever free with no meds. My fever lasted 4 days, so chances are he is out the whole week.
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Blackcat31 11:52 AM 03-06-2017
Here is the info I have about tne flu

http://www.hennepin.us/-/media/henne...fact.pdf?la=en

I would not allow return until next week
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Blackcat31 11:53 AM 03-06-2017
Originally Posted by LittleScholars:

Ugh, how does one know they have the flu vs. a cold?! Other than getting tested, of course.
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/d...-a-cold-or-flu
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LittleScholars 11:59 AM 03-06-2017
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Here is the info I have about tne flu

http://www.hennepin.us/-/media/henne...fact.pdf?la=en

I would not allow return until next week
If he was fever and symptom free Friday (the day he is set to return), would you allow it? I guess since I don't have a set policy for the flu, I'm terrible for making a policy on the spot.

And do you have a policy specifically for the flu? I thought my policies were pretty comprehensive, but now I'm not sure!!
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EntropyControlSpecialist 12:09 PM 03-06-2017
I exclude, at least, 72 hours.

When did mom contact you? Do you have a drop off window (say, 7:00-9:00am) where they cannot drop off after?

I'd just say you need to exclude for 3-4 days and update your current policy to reflect this.
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LittleScholars 12:29 PM 03-06-2017
Originally Posted by EntropyControlSpecialist:
I exclude, at least, 72 hours.

When did mom contact you? Do you have a drop off window (say, 7:00-9:00am) where they cannot drop off after?

I'd just say you need to exclude for 3-4 days and update your current policy to reflect this.
Mom reached out around 12 to confirm it was the flu. She reached out Sunday evening to share he was ill with a fever. I have contracted drop offs (7:30).

Ok, great. I'm definitely going to add the 4 day rule and check very closely at drop off for symptoms.
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EntropyControlSpecialist 12:50 PM 03-06-2017
Originally Posted by LittleScholars:
Mom reached out around 12 to confirm it was the flu. She reached out Sunday evening to share he was ill with a fever. I have contracted drop offs (7:30).

Ok, great. I'm definitely going to add the 4 day rule and check very closely at drop off for symptoms.
I'd say something like, "As per your pediatrician's recommendation, there is a new illness policy implemented immediately. Children diagnosed with the flu will be excluded for a full 4 days. Re-admittance will be at the discretion of the provider."

You have a tiny infant. I'm glad you aren't jeapardizing that baby's health.
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Ariana 02:49 PM 03-06-2017
I would say something to the effect of

"due to the administering of Tamiflu by your DR, special consideration will need to be implemented for the safety of the other kids in care. As per my pediatricians recommendation child will need to be quarantined for 4 days after Tamiflu is given. Therefor X will need to remain at home until next Monday. I apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your understanding in this matter.
See you next week and I hope X feels better!"

To me the administering of Tamiflu is a much more serious thing than regular old flu.
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Ariana 02:53 PM 03-06-2017
Originally Posted by LittleScholars:

Ugh, how does one know they have the flu vs. a cold?! Other than getting tested, of course.
Flu = Fever
Cold = No Fever

That is it in a nutshell! Flu can be serious or or not but the presence of a fever means flu vs cold. I have had knock down drag out colds that were not flus and I have had flus that were nothing!
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KiwiKids 02:58 PM 03-06-2017
Originally Posted by Ariana:
I would say something to the effect of

"due to the administering of Tamiflu by your DR, special consideration will need to be implemented for the safety of the other kids in care. As per my pediatricians recommendation child will need to be quarantined for 4 days after Tamiflu is given. Therefor X will need to remain at home until next Monday. I apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your understanding in this matter.
See you next week and I hope X feels better!"

To me the administering of Tamiflu is a much more serious thing than regular old flu.
This is what I would do. As a mother she should understand why he needs to be kept home. 2 month old babies don't need exposure to the flu!
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LittleScholars 06:27 AM 03-07-2017
Originally Posted by KiwiKids:
This is what I would do. As a mother she should understand why he needs to be kept home. 2 month old babies don't need exposure to the flu!
I'm absolutely doing this. I had dreams about the flu all night. I feel terrible excluding (I've been really lucky I've almost never had to), but I think it is important.
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Blackcat31 06:37 AM 03-07-2017
Originally Posted by LittleScholars:
I'm absolutely doing this. I had dreams about the flu all night. I feel terrible excluding (I've been really lucky I've almost never had to), but I think it is important.
The flu isn't just a cold or something "common".....it REALLY is a big deal so I would think the DCM (or ANY parent) would understand your need to be cautious, not only because you provide child care but because you have an infant.

I take the flu VERY seriously. I exclude every member of the family if someone in the family has a confirmed case of the flu. Otherwise, my exclusionary policies simply apply to the one that is actually ill.
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LittleScholars 07:46 AM 03-07-2017
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
The flu isn't just a cold or something "common".....it REALLY is a big deal so I would think the DCM (or ANY parent) would understand your need to be cautious, not only because you provide child care but because you have an infant.

I take the flu VERY seriously. I exclude every member of the family if someone in the family has a confirmed case of the flu. Otherwise, my exclusionary policies simply apply to the one that is actually ill.
This helps a ton. I taught kindergarten for 10 years, and I still encountered the true flu so rarely. I think I was taking it far too lightly in this situation.

Thank you all again! I would have been a mess if they had contact and my little guy (or anyone) caught it!
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childcaremom 08:40 AM 03-07-2017
Originally Posted by Ariana:
I would say something to the effect of

"due to the administering of Tamiflu by your DR, special consideration will need to be implemented for the safety of the other kids in care. As per my pediatricians recommendation child will need to be quarantined for 4 days after Tamiflu is given. Therefor X will need to remain at home until next Monday. I apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your understanding in this matter.
See you next week and I hope X feels better!"

To me the administering of Tamiflu is a much more serious thing than regular old flu.

I would do a thorough check Monday at drop off, too.
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daycarediva 10:17 AM 03-07-2017
Originally Posted by Ariana:
I would say something to the effect of

"due to the administering of Tamiflu by your DR, special consideration will need to be implemented for the safety of the other kids in care. As per my pediatricians recommendation child will need to be quarantined for 4 days after Tamiflu is given. Therefor X will need to remain at home until next Monday. I apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your understanding in this matter.
See you next week and I hope X feels better!"

To me the administering of Tamiflu is a much more serious thing than regular old flu.
Originally Posted by Ariana:
Flu = Fever
Cold = No Fever

That is it in a nutshell! Flu can be serious or or not but the presence of a fever means flu vs cold. I have had knock down drag out colds that were not flus and I have had flus that were nothing!
Yes to all of this!
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