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daniellesweety1 10:56 AM 07-17-2014
I just have a question, I wanted to know what do you all consider PT/FT?

I'm thinking of changing my handbook/contract.

My hours will be from 630a-6p contracted based on parents schedules.

I have PT as being 4 hours or less and FT anything more than that basically. But now Im wondering should PT be 5 hours or less? not sure..

Thanks for your help
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TheGoodLife 11:15 AM 07-17-2014
I personally don't do 1/2 days, I can't make up that lost money and I don't want to lose money in order to save someone else, if you KWIM PT is less than 5 days, and my rate changes per the amount of days they contract: 1 day= $35, 2=$70, 3=$100, 4=$130, 5=$150. I do $40 for drop-in. I've had a mom chose to bring her DD here for Christmas season, her work hours changed for the holidays and she needed me from 1-5, 3 days a week. She still paid $100. My newest family is coming M-F 7:45-1 and asked about PT pay, but I said I couldn't fill the afternoon any way, and they still chose to enroll. So some people do understand!
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MarinaVanessa 11:33 AM 07-17-2014
I don't do half days either. For me FT depends on how many days you need so 4 or 5 days a week is FT because it's hard filling a spot for one day a week. PT for me is 3 days or less. PT is a flat weekly rate and has to be a set schedule. My rate is $28 per day minimum for 3pm pick ups and add $2 per 30 minutes after 3pm for later pick ups. Add up the total daily fees together and that's their weekly rate.
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Blackcat31 11:38 AM 07-17-2014
I have 3, 4 or 5 day options.

I don't take kids that attend less than 3 days per week unless they are drop in and that is on an available basis only.

I also do not offer half days on a regular basis but will allow half days for regularly enrolled children but my half days can NOT include lunch time or napr time.

I offer a half day A.M. block from 8:00 a.m. until 11:00 a.m or
a P.M. block from 2:00 p.m. until 5:00 p.m.
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Second Home 12:30 PM 07-17-2014
Full time is 5 days a week , part time is 1-4 days a week .
I do not do half days or charge by the hour . I did that way back when I first started out and it was a disaster .
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llpa 02:26 PM 07-17-2014
My half day is 4 1/2 hrs or less for $25. Minimum 3days a week. It's working so far
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AmyKidsCo 03:13 PM 07-17-2014
Full time is 20 or more hours per week.

Part time is less than 20 hours per week.

I do offer AM/PM care: 7-11:30 and 12:30-5, no lunch served. But I've never had anyone want AM/PM care.
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daniellesweety1 03:54 PM 07-18-2014
Ok so now I'm thinking I should only offer full time days and just either offer 3, 4, or 5 days a week instead. That seem much easier and the rate can stay the same.... I initially have in my handbook FT 2 and up =145 a week, FT infants=185 week, PT=MWF 2/up 135, and tues/thurs=110. PT infants=MWF 155 and T/TH=130....

So should I just make it Only FT, but can come either 5, 4 or 3 days a week? I'm almost done licensing but the more i think I feel like i want to change things over and over.

Please help wonderful daycare family

I was also looking at FT/PT by hours instead of days however, I wasn't taking anyone that came only one day a week and they could only choose from MWF/T TH/or M-F... Thats it
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Blackcat31 07:53 AM 07-19-2014
Originally Posted by daniellesweety1:
Ok so now I'm thinking I should only offer full time days and just either offer 3, 4, or 5 days a week instead. That seem much easier and the rate can stay the same.... I initially have in my handbook FT 2 and up =145 a week, FT infants=185 week, PT=MWF 2/up 135, and tues/thurs=110. PT infants=MWF 155 and T/TH=130....

So should I just make it Only FT, but can come either 5, 4 or 3 days a week? I'm almost done licensing but the more i think I feel like i want to change things over and over.

Please help wonderful daycare family

I was also looking at FT/PT by hours instead of days however, I wasn't taking anyone that came only one day a week and they could only choose from MWF/T TH/or M-F... Thats it
I don't offer anything less than 3 days per week.

This is is a rough outline of how my rates work:

3 days = $100
4 days = $120
5 days = $ 140

Flat rate, SAME payment each week, regardless of absences. Rates are based on enrollment NOT attendance.

If a 4 day a week family wants to add the 5th day, I add $30 per day NOT just give them the rate for 5 days.

If a 3 day a week family uses the SAME 3 days each week, then they get the $100 rate. If they need a different 3 days each week, I charge them the 4 day a week rate but ONLY allow them to use 3 days.

I know it's easier to just take the 4 day a week rate then as far as cost goes right? So most parents do. (Which I prefer so win-win!)

I don't accept less than 3 days unless they pay a drop in rate and drop ins must call to inquire about availability the day they need care (I don't allow advance reservations) and they pay $45 per day payable AT DROP OFF that day. I also don't allow drop offs to stay until close. They have to pick up an hour before my last kid so I am never stuck at the end of the day with a drop in kid...kwim?

I don't say part time or full time, I just view it as either 3 days a week (same days or varying days), 4 days or 5 days a week options.

I have parents pick ONE option and that becomes their rate for the week (I tweak their rates according to pick up times but that is even more complicated...) and if parents want to add a day, they have to submit the request in writing ahead of time and I will let them know if I can accommodate them or not.

I don't allow parents to go down to less day without written notice 2 weeks prior to the change taking place.

Then I let every one know that the families that use the most space will always have priority over families who use less when it comes to reserving space.

I leave the choices up to the parents and I NEVER discount or negotiate my rates.
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daniellesweety1 08:02 AM 07-19-2014
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
I don't offer anything less than 3 days per week.

This is is a rough outline of how my rates work:

3 days = $100
4 days = $120
5 days = $ 140

Flat rate, SAME payment each week, regardless of absences. Rates are based on enrollment NOT attendance.

If a 4 day a week family wants to add the 5th day, I add $30 per day NOT just give them the rate for 5 days.

If a 3 day a week family uses the SAME 3 days each week, then they get the $100 rate. If they need a different 3 days each week, I charge them the 4 day a week rate but ONLY allow them to use 3 days.

I know it's easier to just take the 4 day a week rate then as far as cost goes right? So most parents do. (Which I prefer so win-win!)

I don't accept less than 3 days unless they pay a drop in rate and drop ins must call to inquire about availability the day they need care (I don't allow advance reservations) and they pay $45 per day payable AT DROP OFF that day. I also don't allow drop offs to stay until close. They have to pick up an hour before my last kid so I am never stuck at the end of the day with a drop in kid...kwim?

I don't say part time or full time, I just view it as either 3 days a week (same days or varying days), 4 days or 5 days a week options.

I have parents pick ONE option and that becomes their rate for the week (I tweak their rates according to pick up times but that is even more complicated...) and if parents want to add a day, they have to submit the request in writing ahead of time and I will let them know if I can accommodate them or not.

I don't allow parents to go down to less day without written notice 2 weeks prior to the change taking place.

Then I let every one know that the families that use the most space will always have priority over families who use less when it comes to reserving space.

I leave the choices up to the parents and I NEVER discount or negotiate my rates.

I think I really like this idea best. I will revise my hand book to fit this way. I feel that is much easier. Now do you charge different rates for infants?

Lastly, do I/should I charge an enrollment fee and deposit fee? For instance, both non-refundable, however enrollment fee covers last week in case something happens and the deposit is applied to account after 6 months on time payments etc..?
Everytime I think I have my handbook covered, you ladies inspire me to make changes...l
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Blackcat31 08:12 AM 07-19-2014
Originally Posted by daniellesweety1:
I think I really like this idea best. I will revise my hand book to fit this way. I feel that is much easier. Now do you charge different rates for infants?
I don't normally take infants but I will if the family is currently enrolled.
Infant space is SUPER hard to find here so I just charge one flat weekly rate for infants regardless of how many or few days they want.
Flat weekly infant rate is $10 MORE than the 5 day rate.

Infants require the MOST work.

Originally Posted by daniellesweety1:
Lastly, do I/should I charge an enrollment fee and deposit fee? For instance, both non-refundable, however enrollment fee covers last week in case something happens and the deposit is applied to account after 6 months on time payments etc..?
I don't charge an enrollment fee and I don't charge a deposit either (it's first come, first paid = first served) and I require payment in advance so the deposit isn't worth it to me. If a family wants to leave, I more than likely just want them gone too so it's fine with me. I don't think any child cares in my area require deposits.

I do have a long wait list but like I said, it's first come/paid, first served.

I do NOT hold spaces. EVER. If a space is open and someone wants it, they pay for it. Whether they use it or not. So no holding fee.

Originally Posted by daniellesweety1:
Everytime I think I have my handbook covered, you ladies inspire me to make changes...l
Sorry to tell you, you will NEVER be done editing your handbook. I've been doing this for 2 decades and update mine yearly.
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TwinKristi 08:17 AM 07-19-2014
I consider PT anything less than 4 full days. I don't really offer half days (although it's in my contract, $40 for half, $50 for full days so it breaks down to $10/hr like drop-in care) and nothing has really come up needing PT care? I do offer drop-in care if I have the room but I haven't in a couple months except on Mondays.
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daniellesweety1 08:18 AM 07-19-2014
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
I don't normally take infants but I will if the family is currently enrolled.
Infant space is SUPER hard to find here so I just charge one flat weekly rate for infants regardless of how many or few days they want.
Flat weekly infant rate is $10 MORE than the 5 day rate.

Infants require the MOST work.



I don't charge an enrollment fee and I don't charge a deposit either (it's first come, first paid = first served) and I require payment in advance so the deposit isn't worth it to me. If a family wants to leave, I more than likely just want them gone too so it's fine with me. I don't think any child cares in my area require deposits.

I do have a long wait list but like I said, it's first come/paid, first served.

I do NOT hold spaces. EVER. If a space is open and someone wants it, they pay for it. Whether they use it or not. So no holding fee.



Sorry to tell you, you will NEVER be done editing your handbook. I've been doing this for 2 decades and update mine yearly.

Not charging enrollment/deposits makes sense to me too because Im requiring payments for the week of services. That way if someone doesn't pay monday, they won't be here tuesday So I figured I really wouldn't miss money if they didn't pay because I wouldn't provide the service anyway. I love this site.... I know this will happen because every time I see something different I feel like I want to add it to my handbook. Especially when I see things others experienced.
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Blackcat31 08:21 AM 07-19-2014
Originally Posted by daniellesweety1:
Not charging enrollment/deposits makes sense to me too because Im requiring payments for the week of services. That way if someone doesn't pay monday, they won't be here tuesday So I figured I really wouldn't miss money if they didn't pay because I wouldn't provide the service anyway. I love this site.... I know this will happen because every time I see something different I feel like I want to add it to my handbook. Especially when I see things others experienced.
I PM'ed you links to my handbook and rate sheets. Hopefully, they will be helpful for you.

If you have any questions, just let me know.

You do have to have a google or gmail account to view the files...you might have to request to view them too... I don't know, I'm not proficient in using Goggle Drive yet but am learning..LOL!

But if you do have issues or have to request permission, just let me know and I'll take care of it.
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daniellesweety1 08:23 AM 07-19-2014
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
I PM'ed you links to my handbook and rate sheets. Hopefully, they will be helpful for you.

If you have any questions, just let me know.

You do have to have a google or gmail account to view the files...you might have to request to view them too... I don't know, I'm not proficient in using Goggle Drive yet but am learning..LOL!

But if you do have issues or have to request permission, just let me know and I'll take care of it.
Ok Checking now, will let you know soon... thank you very much
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EntropyControlSpecialist 11:26 AM 07-19-2014
My part-time is Tuesday/Thursday 8-5 and Monday/Wednesday/Friday 8-5. If they want varying days then they do full-time (I offer an extra hour for them for free). I also only have 1-2 part-time spots at a time depending on how many I want to deal with.
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